Ep53 - I RUINED my $3,500 CVT Roof Top Tent

Vlog 53
Remember vlog 52 from last week? Yea, well that trip was more perilous than we had thought. My CVT Mt Denali rooftop tent did not make it either.
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[@fisheyeguy]

Try steam cleaning it. And that is why I will NEVER live in a place with a HOA. HOA’s should be outlawed. If you can’t set up a tent at your house for a couple of hours, something is very wrong.

[@SwellRunner]

Hahaha. I agree! But I also agree with what the HOA is supposed to be doing. It's just in this scenario, we have a neighbor that's a little too...

[@Jtwizzle]

Agreed, so pointless.

[@fisheyeguy]

Jason Koertge I’ve seen it time and time again. HOA’s always take the rules too far. I get the concept of a HOA, but I don’t agree with them at all.

[@T25de]

HOA Good idea, executed to perfucktion

[@kenedwards5455]

FishEyeGuy Outdoors p

[@MushuMckinney]

So you put your tent away wet, you complained about it and they gave you a new tent? Good Lord!. You are one of the reasons that tents costs $3,500.

[@jacobstein7179]

@MillieBits I'm sorry but how does that have anything to do with being white? More because he owns a KZbin channel?

[@eyelovepi2954]

seriously, this dude is insufferable

[@stevegee7623]

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past the 3:25 mark.... skip long intros, skip long video transitions and just get to the point. It's often what you don't include that makes a video enjoyable to watch.

[@ianlocke1304]

So is this something they'd do for every forgetful customer or just people with successful youtube channels?

[@JDBeastmode]

Gray Man he got a lesser model, the company will professionally clean it and sell it as a refurbished I imagine. The reason I say he got a lesser model is the difference in his first ladders and the ladder of the one they have him.

[@MuskratOutdoors]

Unless the stitching or canvas is rotten......who cares? Spots are just cammo!

[@casey-mac]

Did the same to mine. Bleach and warm water mixture and loads of elbow grease will take it right out. The stains may never go away, but the mold dies.

[@glenr7393]

HS Stain Away or like will remove the stain

[@ericheinrich9015]

@@glenr7393 Lysol or moldEx. Bleach doesn't kill mold.

[@dirtybacon2773]

Similar thing happened to me. I have the SmittyBilt RTT (which has been incredible). Hurricane Irma came through and evidently lifted the cover enough to let the rain in. I opened it about a week later and my mold and stains looks significantly worse than yours. The stains are there still, but all the mold is dead. I used a mix of vinegar/water and household upholstry cleaner then hosed it out for an eternity. Foam mattress i soaked down in lysol and washed the cover in normal washing machine. Pillows and cases went in the garbage. Sleeping bags just got washed like normal. Your tent ain't ruined at all, bud. Just looks different now! Some organic camouflage.

[@briangarcia2358]

Guy forgot to air out his wet CVT tent.. now fast forward to 6:15. I lost interest 10 minutes in so I dont know if he got it clean or not. Enjoy.

[@mxv2015]

OMG such a looooooong story, that's 22 minutes of my life I will never get back.

[@C69FH]

Powerwash it... It works fine... This happened to me in 5 days .. powerwashed it with a soap bleach mixture and then a rinse... The powerwasher gets into the weave of the fabric... Then air dry outside or a heater inside the garage in winter. Stains all gone.

[@jarhead6153]

Stop crying about it... clean it and use it, move on. Lesson learned.

[@DevDream1]

I did this to my ground tent as well after backpacking near the ocean. It was also only a week or so but by the time I got back home and unpacked it stank and was covered. I ended up using Lysol wipes believe it or not and some elbow grease. One thing is make sure you re-waterproof it! My tent was wetting through after until I re did it!

[@Standeck]

The dogs and I spent the night up in my CVT on top of the Turtleback when floodwaters from Hurricane Harvey came into my house. Been busy dealing with the aftermath of that; but I think I'll pull the trailer out and check the tent this weekend!

[@rachaelsteeves7353]

I live in tents most the time.I Use Iosso Mold and Mildew & Stain Remover. This is my go-to product.

[@Flyanb]

CVT sells the tent part separately I’ve bought all kinds of spare parts from them this year I bought a new cover like $150 on my door in two days. They are really good.

[@SwellRunner]

Yep, love those guys.

[@greywulf73]

I had a CVT tent, got it when they were still in Bend, approximately 5 years ago. Bobby and CVT as a whole, absolutely awesome!

[@PrintThisStamford]

You need a power washer. Lol

[@jamesbb716]

Steam clean with an upholstery pre-spray, and acid rinse. Fog with benefect. Set an air mover or two inside. Let it dry. Ive done it with a canvas tent a guy brought to me with the same problem. Fixed it up pretty well.

[@scssarge4409]

Aye Mate. you can fix problem with the blend of 50/50 Apple cider vinegar and water only as when you place Lemon juice it neutralises the acid of the vinegar. only use vinegar and water. spray on and wipe with micro fibre. sorry this is a late blog but it works on your non-tare fabric.

[@mitchmead5772]

Have you ever had an issue of water accumulating on the fly just below the stargazer window? Water seems to puddle on both sides. I have to raise the fly to disperse the water. I had in October initially made a trip to Chattanooga with a trailer that wasn't wide enough in Tom's opinion. On May 1st we went back and it's funny actually picked up the tent we were supposed to get in October from their outlet (brand new but with a floor dent on ladder side floor with a $1000 discount). I have two dogs and added in front of the left side ladder a six step Torklift A7806 steps plus an additional seventh step to allow the dogs to enter the tent w/o assistance. They go up and down with no problem. We sit and go down the steps as well. I had to mount the Denali tent at 60 inches to allow the use of the steps.

[@codywohlers2059]

can't set up a tent on your private property... lol FREEDOM!

[@overlandvegan8224]

Hi, you have to wash with baking powder, soap and water... let soak 1 hour or so and clean off.. You have to do this inside and out

[@kimberlyelliott9307]

Just a thought..I had a 88 liter. Backpack a big expensive one that had the same problem your tent did...I sprayed it with mean green and scrubbed the spots. With a scrub brush and it all came out then I dried it..kind of the same type material..)use thought I’d let you know.i know you’ve had other suggestions but I just. Did this and it worked...

[@MasterTRL]

So if you absolutely have to pack up wet, but then you come home and its still raining. Is it best to now leave it packed until its dry out, even if its a couple of days, or is it best to maybe open the tent and just leave it open and exposed to the rain, but at least able to circulate inside?

[@michaelfletcher1224]

This was the first “overlanding” video I ever watched. Seriously, it was.

[@ryanbeydler406]

Dude this editing is on point! Love the flow of your videos. I get your inspiration and your interpretation of story telling is great.

[@erockshabazz9282]

I purchased a simpson111 arb tent on Craigslist, it was way worse than this, I know I'm probably too late but distilled white vinegar , sunlight, and concrobium mold stain remover is the ticket. Looked almost brand new. Filled a couple tiny holes with shoe goo as well. Don't put you rtt away wet !

[@timburton1715]

Hi 👋... first time here... ruined..?? Really..?? CVT sounds like a great 👍 company. I'll take it as is... I'm a cancer survivor (3 years) with nerve damage at my spine from the tumor... would love ❤️ to be able to camp again but was financially ruined by the expense of fighting my cancer... Disability barely covers living expenses NO extra for equipment... YOU are truly blessed...I appreciate you sharing your experiences...I'm hoping to do a similar vlog someday soon... God bless, thanks 🙏🏻 for listening.

[@gearanalyzer]

Try mirazyme enzyme cleaner. Made for paddle sports gear. It’ll eat the mold.

[@exploringwithavi708]

KETO AND GEAR hey! I just bought a used pop up and it has some mildew. I looked up the mirazyme enzyme cleaner, but I didn’t find it. I only found an order remover. Could you like the enzyme cleaner?

[@Rustyrea75]

@@exploringwithavi708 Common use so dive wet suits. I've had good luck with it for that purpose. Try Leisurepro site. www.leisurepro.com/p-mcnmz/mcnett-mirazyme-enzyme-based-odor-eliminator?origterm=mira&searchredirect=true

[@Rustyrea75]

@@exploringwithavi708 Leisurepro site has mirazyme. Type mira in their search bar.

[@dreed7312]

Put tent away wet. Mildew. Here's what it looks like. I whined and sponsor sent me another one. Thats like, 4 minutes worth of video and this is 22 mins long!

[@sillyboy32]

I know it’s an old vid, but how are you liking the new CVT. It’s the Mt Ranier extended summit I believe. Smaller than your old. It’s the one I’m about to pull the chain on. Do you miss the xtra size?? I’m thinking a cot in the annex for one if the kids.

[@andrewarrant7925]

So I am new to your channel and really enjoy your content. This info is late but for future reference. Bleach will not kill mold. Use a product called Micoban. It is safe to use on any material and will safely kill the mold. Keep up the good material!

[@wakka4211]

I can't believe you accepted a $3500 tent from a small business because you stained yours. It's camping gear. It gets dirty and stained. Also, you could have easily killed someone driving with that gear loaded on a cracked steel frame. That was absolutely NOT a "small crack". That could have easily been a few hundred pounds flying into someone's windshield while they were doing 70mph on I-75. This is the problem with people buying into hobbies.

[@takensouls1]

Yeah, when I saw that crack I was like "Is this guy serious?". Clearly just a rich guy with no common sense

[@scopefactor]

As someone who used to work for a water damage restoration company, we used a high concentrate hydrogen peroxide to kill mold and clean what it was on, I’m talking like 30+ percent concentration. Try looking at a chemical supply store

[@adrianw3985]

Thanks Jason for sharing your ups and downs. Makes me feel like we are all in this together. God Bless.

[@phantom6knight]

This was a great episode to watch. I appreciate how you took something catastrophic and made the best of it. These things happen, that’s what I’ve learned in my old age. I’d bet you’re not the first person to do that. I was hoping CVT would do a tent swap, and use yours for testing and research! I do a lot of photo shoots, and I’ve packed away gear wet, but I’ve learned to set a timed reminder on my phone, for 12 hours later, so that helps to mitigate some of the impact, and usually I’m home or able to address it by then. I also respect the TARDIS decal you’re rocking. Safe journeys.

[@dylanjmccabe]

Dude, your videos are awesome! I wish I had the video making skills. Just got a 4runner trail edition and plan on some upgrades. Love to go camping. Question: Why did you choose a turtleback over an off road tear drop? I'm having a hard time deciding....

[@insaynbcr]

I wonder if spraying on your diluted bleach/water combo and then closing it up for the night, and then opening it back up in the morning would allow the diluted bleach to help actually remove the stains. Just thinking allowing a bit of soak time, rather than spraying it on and then it dries too quickly for it to do the job of stain removal. Good deal on getting it replaced for the new owner.

[@jamesnorris6621]

Thanks for sharing, everyone makes mistakes, it’s just how we deal with them after that affects the outcome. Peace yall

[@davidmccallum8172]

You can get rid of all mold and mildew and smells, by using an OZONE generator for 24 hours inside it. The stains are another matter.

[@f1y7rap]

You'll need to hand scrub it with a bristle brush or green scrubbie and either a water/vinegar mix or you can get a bottle of mildew killer from Home Depot. The brush or scrubbie is necessary to mechanically remove the mold, and (particularly) the stuff from HD will kill the mold. As for the discoloration, not alot you can do to remove it. It'll just look dingy.

[@RandyPollock]

Did I miss the part where he said ... yeah they are giving me a free tent... I'm not even going to mention paying 3500.00 for a tent :-) (yeah you got me, I'm a pop up trailer RV person).

[@goneprospecting818]

I paid 2500 for a crappy old motor home 22 months ago and have been living in it ever since. Last winter in north Idaho. This winter I drove it to Vegas. Needed flex seal to seal some leaks. Added solar panels. No HOA and never lived for so cheap.

[@RolandoNispiros]

What an adventure! Thanks for sharing. Expensive lessons learned.

[@getlostbrandon]

I've sweated a full bullets with my CVT awning wall tent after putting it away wet and cold for a week, day 7 or 10 it was still mold free though. I've still got a couple years until i install my RTT on my trailer, kids not quite old enough yet, cant wait to have a tree fort

[@wkmac2]

Those guys in Chattanooga are good dudes. Wife and I visited them one afternoon in mid November (last month) and she was not too wild about the RTT idea but a couple of hours there, getting to see everything up close and her opinion really changed.

[@thatradkid]

I did this with my fridge! but now I will never forget to clean up when I get home

[@Carguello78]

Must be nice! Guess your “relationship/sponsorship” goes a long way. Too bad that company wouldn’t have done the same for the average guy

[@ravenfeather7087]

Hard to believe there isn't someone on line or in the fabric business who doesn't know how to deal with the visual. If the fabric is sound I'd knock a few bucks off the sale price and sell it. My pop-up has stains, patched tears etc. Still works and does not leak.

[@flhxri]

my ten year old 25 dollar wal-mart tent lasted longer lol but then again I take care of my things.

[@daryljohnson6333]

Great visual storytelling! You weren't so irritated with your girls that you didn't remember to set up a 2nd cam and include them in the story. Good work. Also.....lesson learned vicariously.

[@Offworldoverland]

Jason, Have you asked CVT if you could spray white distilled vinegar on the mold to kill it. I have friends who have used it on tents of the ground variety and have had success...the vinegar smell dissipates over time.

[@Iamdragonman]

You certainly wont forget again!!! What great tents they make!! And by the looks of it a great service as well!!

[@jozefbuchanan5841]

Buy a bottle of Sterigear and spray in on the tent; hospitals use it and medical centers. Great stuff.

[@brandonbyram]

Someone may have already said this but all you should have let it dry well, go to a local carpet cleaning company and get a fungicide or what ever they use for mold and spray it out then steam clean and power wash then let dry well. Hope all turns out good. Love the videos man def a great channel! Edit Or you could just do what you did lol. commented before finishing the video

[@utilityart]

That’s a tough lesson, at least you were fortunate enough to have a working relationship with CVT. Keep up the good vids.

[@patrickmessier1642]

boy, I don't think there's anything wrong with your tent, I would still use it, as long as you clean the living mold off, I would be perfectly content. I have had a few tents in the past that have the same looking mold on them, all I did was clean them, and lived with the stains. To me, as long as you clean as best you can and let the thing dry out really good there shoud'nt be a problem. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

[@allancross9680]

I used to be an upholsterer / canvas fabricator. I have repaired hundreds of tents and tarps. Factoid: Mildew will cause fabric to disintegrate. You cannot repair it because it will tear at the point where new fabric is sewn on. That is an expensive lesson. I hope all you watches of this video will learn before it happens to you or your friends.

[@Channel_60]

When is that CVT awning tent/rainfly going to be available and will there be a 2500mm option?

[@shanecarnes2602]

That musty smell! Gack! Like my basement that flooded in Michigan. Looks like they took care of you right though Jason. Bravo CVT

[@bobbiebigg3]

Jason I think your a decent person with a nice family but after watching this video I am never going to buy a roof top tent or over land tent trailer set up, I will just stick with my 20 year old 5th wheel, no leeks, no mold, furnace and a/c, stove, sinks, toilet, two queen beds and very, very comfortable.

[@rogerkomula8057]

Whoa, we all will pay a little extra now to cover your negligence. Now I'm for sure going to another company.

[@SwellRunner]

roger komula ooookkaaayyy. Private business doesn’t work like an operating government.

[@buildexplore3278]

Blue dawn dish soap and a scrub, then hit with the pressure washer. Works every time.

[@FriedRiceDudeGaming]

Kinda off topic but does your friend Tyler have a lift/changes in suspension on his Tacoma? Also I'm in Northeast Florida in Jax, just bought a 2017 Tacoma!

[@SwellRunner]

Yep, he just did full suspension.

[@301steady]

Tents in the Army are treated with a Mildew Resistant Coating. Available at Walmart. Only reason I've never needed it is because I've never been to the Mojave desert, in the rain.

[@valetdecour]

Did you try a casher presser machine(gaz), you can plug hot water and wash it with high pressure...I pretty sure that work and you will can sell it without problem....It's take a big hot water tank!!!

[@wlh227]

Just stumbled across your channel for some reason. I'm a Jeep guy but I don't camp. Anyway 2 suggestion if someone has not already suggested it. White vinegar for the mold. It really works great and cleans up nice. Move out of the HOA as soon as possible!!!!! I would rather live next door to someone that paints their house pink than live in a HOA.

[@artm6723]

You may not be able to get the stains out, but if you sprayed everywhere the mold was you should be fine. It'll kill the mold, not sure about the staining.

[@paytendampeer811]

did you happen to see the Mt. Mazama trailer tent while you were there? If so what are your thoughts on it?

[@canesser1]

What. A. Horrible. Situation. My heart bled for you on that one Jason. I'm the proud owner of a 12x14' canvas wall tent and I'm obsessive about drying it out to bone dry before storing it as we live on the edge of the Northern Boreal Rain Forest. Can so relate with forgetting such a thing, I've done it!?

[@HoundDogHats]

I just found your channel, I'm not even into this style of tents. I watched it all cause of the great job on the edit. Thumbs up.

[@Dan-qp1el]

Outstanding customer service.

[@The.Alabama.Woodsman]

"Honey, I was out on a trip. A bear attacked the tent, tearing it to shreds! I was lucky to get away with my life. It hurts because the tent is ruined. I'm so sad this happened because there are so many memories in that tent. Can I get another one?"

[@ScenicCityAdventures]

Man, I wish I had known you were coming up to our little town. I live just a couple miles from the CVT store! Glad it all worked out.

[@SwellRunner]

Man, we were in and out. I thought about you, but I had to get back quick for family...

[@ScenicCityAdventures]

No worries! Another time for sure. I've got a new toy I'm picking up this weekend that we'll need to break in on some trails soon.

[@michaeldempsey6747]

Cvt is in the process of producing a more water resistant tent that is mold resistant. They make quality stuff. Contact them and see what they say...

[@jamesrich3190]

Spoke with you in Gallup NM and you directed my here. Thanks brother, great videos.

[@nicbly]

In the future you should consider using an O3 generator to remove the smells. Ozonolysis reactions do a great job at breaking down biomolecules that cause nasty smells 👍🏾.

[@75kwbsrdds]

Did you scrub the tent with a stiff brush after spraying it?

[@carminered]

after this video we all know CVT is run by angels.

[@sailorf21]

Use "Gone in 30 Seconds" Mold and mildew cleaning is common with marine 'canvas' products. There are many things recommended by many marine stores. Your tent looks like it is ripstop nylon - anything that cleans Sunbrella will work on that tent. Oh, and I successfully cleaned my rooftop tent with Gone in 30 Seconds.

[@ijrc01]

Enjoyed the video, but the confusing part was about when they swapped out your tent...i just assumed they were going to help you fix it somehow and then return it to you, but instead did they just give you a new tent for free?

[@STUNN312]

warrantied? good faith replacement? did you have to pay extra? I know they have an awesome customer service, but a new tent?

[@chrisc5266]

Concrobium. You can buy this at Home Depot when I had a leak in my trunk that developed mold. Worked way better than bleech or anything else that I tried.

[@chevyboy2066]

Crazy, I never get anything for free or gifted to me. I been saving up and I'm about $450 now saved and still saving up little by little.

[@davidbraverman4699]

YOu could have saved your self a crap ton of money by using a product sold by Home Depot called "Wet and Forget". I have used this product and it works very well. You just have to follow the directions. Where I live, things get wet and ruined fast. This works sooooo well.

[@Chewy0001]

I "liked" your vid Jason - but I wanted to dislike it out of spite. You have a new tent, and I am still living in my mold stained CVT! I'm happy it worked out for you. CVT has been great, including helping me install in Bend afterhours, on a long weekend, but I think you have a bit more pull with them than I. I wish your video would have been out there when I was searching for what to do last spring. Lemon juice, salt, bleach, tent cleaner, scrubbing, spraying, repeating and still stained. Never mind redoing the waterproofing after I rubbed it all off. Leaving it open in the hot sun whenever I could all summer did the most to bleach out the stain. Keep up the "what-not-to-do" videos. Misery loves company!

[@douglasburnum9722]

That's a nice looking FJ40 sitting at CVT. I need to get mine back on the road.

[@SwellRunner]

Yes it was!

[@kevinbishop1323]

Last time I was up there bobby said he was going to sell it

[@TEETO135]

Great video, but I feel like the audio is slightly misaligned at points throughout this video, and a few of your previous ones. I enjoy the content, just wasn’t sure if my platform was causing the misalignment or if they audio is brought in separate from the video and is slightly off alignment.

[@arcticwanderer2000]

What's the big deal. it now looks used. Put a few holes in it, patch them with duct tape, and you will have a Denali tent that an Alaskan would own. I know these things, I live near Denali.

[@sharkheadism]

Call it by its real name, Mount KcKinley

[@haileybearface]

is this 18 days in a warm environment? We get ours wet, and pack it up for weeks and weeks at a time but it sits outside in 7-40 degree weather so nothing really grows I guess.

[@labrunner_t4r_]

Lessons learned... I learn the same way, trust me. If its not the hard way, I don't learn. Love the vids.... what camera do you use?

[@michaellancaster4598]

Get a hot wash and spray it down going to your local camping supply store they sell cleaner to keep the mold from coming back it’s used on pull behind camper

[@bigshopadventures]

so,, what did you do with the old tent? still have it? selling it?

[@keithrichmond5045]

I'm actually looking for a rooftop tent and reached out to Cascadia Vehicle Tents (CVT). They didn't have the Mt. Rainier or the Mt. Denali in stock and they had zero idea on when they would get them back in stock. Seems odd that they have zero visibility into their inventory. I was told to call back every few weeks to check in to see if they have stock. Ain't nobody got time for that. These tents are thousands of dollars and you can't order them unless they physically have stock. Weird! There isn't even a way to hold them for when they do come in with a down payment or anything. Because of all this, I'm going with a Tepui.

[@4x4EastCoast]

Great video. To bad about the mould but worked out in the end. Mould on the tent is one of my biggest fears.

[@lizanita7061]

thx a lot for the info. and demo... I was just looking at getting one of those. Never thought it could go bad so fast.

[@Foswatabe]

You got a nice bishop 👍🏽 and I liked the Sundance sweater.

[@justDIY]

Take the fabric off and send it out for electron beam sterilization. Won't solve the stains but will for sure kill the mold and mildew, and any other biologics along for the ride. Looks like you're west coast, should be a facility not too far.

[@parallelburrito]

Tilex mold and mildew will dissolve it as if it wasn't even there. Bleach and water is cute but it doesn't do what the tilex does.

[@T25de]

The excitement of a flooded Tacoma lended a hand 🤚

[@ripstevens6893]

Buy the best, and cry once. Dang glad I passed on CVT and bought a Tepui. $3,500 for a CVT??? Glad you got it all worked out. Bobby is a "funny" guy to work with. That's all I'm going to say. (thank you folks @ Tepui!)

[@FirstStateOverland]

Aw crap, this just reminded me that we didn't air ours out from last use either! Dammit!

[@irenekonik49]

happy days.... so glad it all turned out for you and yours