Ephemer's Story Is Not Over Yet: Kingdom Hearts Theory

[@gagejoseph91]

"Many of us brush off the fact that Ephemer was here." And here I am, apparently being one of the few people who cite this moment as one of the MAIN parts of the game I'm curious about.

[@flinchyecho2135]

I literally screamed when I saw ephemer in that scene lol

[@JayThePhoenix91]

Same

[@hornedskullasmr7811]

Ya know Ventus must have some intense amnesia if he didn't have some intense ptsd flashbacks when he saw the Light Of The Past...

[@Thecoolven]

Another great observation you’ve made. I as well studied Dark Inferno’s design back when I fought him the first time and came to a theory that it might be Ephemer but I completely discarded it because of Re:Mind and how it assumed to be Ventus’ connection to this heartless. Now I’m starting to theorize that the connection it has to Ventus must be a clue to how it is possibly Ephemer. Since Ventus is one person that has a great connection to the union leaders and although not remembering his past. He is still in his original form. Meaning characters such as Lauriam, Elrena and Skuld don’t count since two of them are in their Nobody form (Marluxia & Larxene) and have no memory of their original selves until being defeated by Sora and regaining those memories as well as Skuld with no memory being hidden by Ansem the wise in an unknown area or “realm” as I think about it. We know that Missing Link will give us an idea as to what happened to him but i do feel like the Keyblade Graveyard will be revisited many times to uncover the disappearance of Ephemer when Lauriam, Elrena, Skuld & Ventus reunite.

[@TheSkaara]

Remember how in the MOM Xehanort scene. MOM tells Xehanort "Ooh never heard that one before, a keyblade wielder willing to side with the darkness?" It sounds very ironic, almost like he has experienced it before. Like when the player "sided" with darkness to trap them in a link cable. Ephemer got the same eye color as the gazing eye. Built Scala ad Caelum. He is pure light with all his kindness. SIGURD you better have a good explanation for this man.

[@Yokyle4356]

His mom told him😂

[@Headhunter1234256]

The twilight thorn seems to possess a scarf as well. Could that be his nobody? Attacking Roxas becouse of his connection to Sora and in turn Ventus. I don't remember ever seeing that nobody anywhere else.

[@hades392able]

this makes me think Ventus could actually be super important for the upcoming saga, as a heart of pure light, he is also the reason why soras heart is so pure. Maybe when the 13 pure darknesses were formed, 7 pure lights also were and Ventus is one of them.

[@Firehot4321]

Hell yeah he's mega important. As far as we know, 2 of the past dandelions (not including Elrena) are in Sora's time. Plus, Strelitzia seems to have a big role in KH4. There's no way Nomura's gonna brush off the fact that they're all in the same time period and not interact with each other rn

[@Xenowave]

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[@gracekim1998]

I thought the pure lights were the princesses 😅

[@thicctiger456]

@@gracekim1998 guardians of pure light he might be referring to them and not the princesses

[@cephery8482]

i mean ventus isnt really a pure light though, while light certainly won out in his heart he isnt a princess of heart. being a heart of pure light isnt a requirement for being a guardian of light, riku, ventus, aqua, sora and axel all fell to darkness for a time and were still guardians of light. princesses of heart are just a different sort of purity. so yeah the 7 pure lights exist, it's just not ventus or any of the union leaders.

[@joeyjose727]

Your theories are so fun to watch, I’m so glad I found this channel!

[@rangedweevil6150]

I remember hearing or reading a theory somewhere that the Invisible heartless from Kingdom Hearts, 358/2, and Union X could be past keyblade wielders who had fallen to the dark, hence why they weird swords and are much stronger than the average heartless. With this in mind, if we look at Dark Inferno, we can see that it has some striking resemblances to the Invisible, except much more powerful, physically larger, and more distinguished. If the theory I mentioned is true, then it very well could be that dark inferno is the heartless of a distinguished keyblade wielder with a connection to Ventus, Ephemer. It's just something I remembered that could help strengthen the theory

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

Really enjoying your videos. Great editing, entertaining commentary, and interesting theories!

[@sonickhable]

With the story of missing link dealing with his descendants, ephemer definitely has a big plot to play in the future of the series

[@danielcampbell1660]

Kingdom Hearts, One Piece, The world ends with you, and lastly, Persona 5. Is exactly what your design is based off of.

[@danielcampbell1660]

Maybe boondocks from the eyes

[@enriquemiranda7876]

For the anavisery in one of the trailers the video goes everything is connected and it has a scene of Him and Ven when they first met at the Keyblade graveyard

[@JanvanEs]

Newbie here immediately rang that bell! Absolutely loved this video and shared it everywhere I could

[@josephfullerton1919]

Taking a shot in the dark on the last one, but The Boondocks? The style reminds me a lot of Huey and Riley.

[@issacthompson330]

It is a bit late but with the references in your avatar, I would say the Keychain and Emblem on your bandana are KH, Jokers mask is Persona, Straw Hat for One Piece, and the Art Style makes me think of TWEWY most of all.

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

Also, you forgot that Ventus defeats Vanitas, a manifest Darkness in Birth by Sleep. That Vanitas turns back into Darkness and puts Ventus to Sleep. So that Darkness has been inside Ventus since he was put in Castle Oblivion. Ventus's Heart may be Pure Light but Darkness is wrapped around it.

[@omarmourad2254]

My theory about Dark Inferno is that it's Vanitas. In the end of bbs they merge again and the one u fight in kh3 is a time traveling Vanitas. In dark road Xehanort said Vanitas is Darkness and in ReMind Dark Inferno says it's Darkness. So maybe Vanitas just forgot everything in the end of bbs.

[@tenebraequeene]

From the Famitsu article, I love the best thing we've learned is that Ephemer fucked... a lot, potentially. Heir and Non-Heir kids? man, Missing Link can't come soon enough! One thing is for sure: Ephemer's story (like you said) isn't over yet!

[@justawafflecousinofpancake4499]

Yeah Ephemer is really getting on the fr grind of experience with Sklud, kind of sort of feels the Adam and Eve vibes when a man and woman are the last humans left behind annnd… ( meme : I know where this is going ) aka the birds and the bees. So yeah Ephemer you lucky 🍀 getting the E+ on your grades for making love 💕 with Sklud, clap clap clap 👏 our boy Ephemer did it for the Book of Prophecies 📖 to continue pasting on the next generation proud of you Ephemer winning the fighting the good fight 👍.

[@hillaryslack2884]

I disagree with you difference between pureblood and emblem heartless. I think Emblem Heartless are a person's heart turned into a heartless. This can be seen by the fact that everyone that we see turn into heartless become a emblem heartless(with maybe the exception of Sora). The man in Traverse town at the beginning of KH1, and even Ansem Seeker of Darkness both being emblem heartless. There is also the fact that only emblem heartless release hearts after their death according to Days, and the animation of emblem heartless being destroyed. I can only think that artificial heartless are always made from a heart to start off with. Which makes sense because they where using people to make heartless in the first place. On the other hand Pureblood Heartless don''t release their own hearts at destruction. In fact every time a pureblood heartless has released a heart the story goes out of it's way to prove that it isn't That Hearless's heart. The Guardian which was holding both Terra's and a time traveling Sora's heart, was not either of their heartless. In fact that Guardian appeared before Terra's heart was forced out of his body. Meaning that the Guardain can't be Terra's heartless it was just holding onto Terra's heart for a time. The Lich which is also a pureblood heartless is given a point to show that it isn't the heart it is holding. We see it take a heart within itself, and then release that heart when Sora fights it. I can only think that a artificial heartless have to be made with a heart as the base. Even the heartless made by Ansem's computer it is clear that the programs where able to grow hearts and thus become heartless. While on the other hand pureblood heartless are natural beings of darkness that have instinct to take wounded hearts into themselves. We can even see that if the heart isn't hurt that pureblood heartless don't seem to attack. Aqua is walking through the realm of darkness for so long that she has already forgotten how to smile before the first Darksides start to attack her. Sora who give part of his heart to Ventus at birth likely always had a wounded heart but Riku seems almost oblivious to the Shadows on the islands in KH1. Though they might not be attacking Riku for some other reason. Ventus is attacked by Neo Shadows while training with Xehanort but if he didn't already have a wounded heart at that point I would be very surprised. The Dark Inferno I don't think is the same heartless. If you look in it's page in the journal it states that their are more then one of it. And the colors of the two bosses have different, the one in base game being pink where the one in remind is yellow. Though something interesting to note is that neither fight allows us to see if Dark inferno releases a heart before it fades to white. Which could mean that Dark Inferno might be holding a heart even if it isn't made of a heart. Do I think Ephemer was in Dark Inferno...not really. Oh I think it is possible just not any more possible then any other theory. There are basically three more ways that I could see why Ephemer appeared in the Graveyard. One his heart was inside his keyblade. After all Keyblades are magnifications of someones heart so putting a heart in one even after death would be fairly easy. Two Ephemer died and become Eraqus, and Eraqus was on the battle field because Terra was. Eraqus might even be having the same kind of dreams Xehanort has been having. Three Ephemer traveled back into the Unchained realm after making Scala out of the broken Daybreak Town. And has been watching over everyone for some time. And Sora just coming back from switching timelines was able to connect with Ephemer's unchained heart. I think all four possibilities are equally possible and that we have both DR and ML to maybe explain which one Ephemer is actually doing.

[@kylemanley5332]

This is a great theory vid.

[@malicekingofshadows]

Is it possible the nobody was Twilight Thorn ? Thst scaf always buged me and if the heartless lingered in ven the nobody might have lingered in roxas.

[@zichithefox4781]

Kingdom Hearts, Persona, One Piece, The World Ends with You.

[@dita1786]

This is literally so good. I cant... i literally cant. Just wow.

[@keyblademasterct2]

I can tell that the poses in your design are based on Shoka's from TWEWY.

[@TalysAlankil]

i'm pretty sure the voice Sora hears in ven's heart is vanitas/the true darkness. the reason for that is the Japanese text; the true Darknesses use a different kanji for their name than the regular kanji for the concept of Darkness (sadly it doesn't have a character in youtube's font so you'll have to look it up), and the voice Sora hears uses that different kanji as well.

[@josephjiba6012]

Sora finds the master defender in the sand ? Ephemers Memory can pas through his key blade that’s how xion remembers

[@thegummiphone]

Great video man. Two things I’d like to point out. Vanitas was reunited with Ventus at the end of BBS, his Darkness was back inside him despite previously being stripped clean. When Even notices he’s stripped clean of Darkness at a glance, I’m more inclined as to why he didn’t question Braig not only after being scarred by Terra, but also having yellow eyes and elf ears at the end of bbs. But I digress. More on topic, the comparison to The Gaurdian is very important here. The Guardian didn’t produce a Nobody- meaning despite Terra’s heart being subjugated into a Heartless, there wasn’t a Nobody formed. And no, it’s not Xemnas because the Gaurdian already existed due to Terra-Xehanort’s union. Landi has also compared the Litch in this way as YX says “That heartless isn’t like the others.” Unlike the Guardian however, the Litch and Dark Inferno are able to stand independent of a host. If the circumstances are like the Guardian, someone is walking around using the original bodies of the Litch and the Dark Inferno. What’s more, it’s important to note that Sora receives the Starlight Keyblade after this interaction with Ephemer. It of course wasn’t just lip service to UX. Starlight was Ephemer’s Keyblade. In a comparison to Lingering Will, the Keyblade Armor is an extention of the Keyblade itself. A Keyblade is also borderline sentient and it can be proven with a few select scenes. It is very well possible, that someone who passes away may leave their mind, or heart stowed away in their Keyblade upon the Badlands.

[@stuartm7009]

The guardian didn't form a nobody because the body still had a heart, it was just Xehanort's. I think the point was more that they look similar because they are both the heartless of powerful keyblade wielders.

[@AuraBerserker]

persona 5, world ends with you, kingdom hearts and one piece.

[@gavn9402]

Yup, I was finna say Twewy too

[@veggietempura9594]

The reference that’s harder to see is the world ends with you

[@Tycall92]

Great video bro but can you hook me up with the sauce for that galantis -you remix at the beginning of the video

[@domcarrasquillo2314]

Technically he is THE lost master that's referred to. Lots of double and triple entendres that nomura throws at is. 😊

[@rosiee1266]

A nobody that comes to mind for him would be the twilight thorn in kh2 that roxas fights. He has a scarf design like the dark inferno

[@TheGhost20978]

One cool thing is the dark inferno from battle gate is “dark inferno” but in remind the one you fight is called “ dark inferno x

[@sushi8528]

Is there a way sora is connected to the union cross player. I might just be making things up but I remember at the end of union cross ephemer went to the player and said need some help and now saying it to sora too just lit up a bell in me

[@Kyosukedono]

The world ends with you. Kingdom Hearts One Piece Persona Interesting theory, I never thought of it that way. I doubt we will get any info about that until Missing Link.

[@AvatarTrev6]

Holyyyy cow the scarf and all holy shit

[@JayThePhoenix91]

I also thought he was coming back during that scene in base game

[@Chrisj.guitar123]

I see luffys hat and the art reminds me of skate farm, a graphic novel from around 2005

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

I actually think the Dark Inferno is Darkness emulating Ephemer because Ventus has locked Memories of them. Sora's ghost was in Ventus Heart just before the Dark Inferno showed up. Meaning they know what Ventus doesn't because They live in his subconscious.

[@topazlynx2228]

Now I'm not the most well versed person when it comes to Kingdom Hearts, I think I only know like KZbin abridgings of the story. But when I first saw Ephemer one thing definitely crossed (lol) my mind. EPHEMER HAS CURLY HAIR INSTEAD OF ANIME SPIKY HAIR?!

[@jacobippolito3224]

1) Kingdom hearts Sora necklace 2) Persona 5 Joker mask 3) TWEWY headphones and artstyle 4) The straw hat or the emblem on the bandana from ???

[@queenlolliplays5729]

your art style is amazing I see kingdom heart (obvi) but there is persona and the world ends with you and is that Luffy's hat I see from one peice?

[@alexacosta4754]

Ventus had the same darkeness but sora already faced it so is darkness 1 step ahead?

[@tiagogestosa6147]

Good theory but i would go as far Ephemer being the 3rd heart inside Sora. In Kingdom hearts 3 Ienzo said Sora had 3 unique hearts, one being Roxas, another Ventus who stayed with him since he was a child. But the third heart stayed with him virtually his entire life, tha means since Sora was a baby. That brings the question, how did the heart get there, did somebody put the heart inside Sora? For me makes sense that the heart is Ephemer, that explains how Ventus and Sora connected their hearts, since Ventus is connected to Ephemer . Ephemer appearing in the keyblade graveyard in front of Sora, i think is because his heart was asleep and awakened there because his strong connection to this place.

[@gracekim1998]

No the hearts in Sora was: Ven, Roxas and Xion😅 Ven first encounter Sora’s heart when his heart was broken so um…yeah

[@tiagogestosa6147]

@@gracekim1998 Xion was already one of 13 darkness, so it is impossible to be her and did you pay attention to what Ienzo said to Sora? Xion became part of Roxas and Roxas later became par of Sora, but then they stayed inside Sora for a bit of time, maybe a year or less. The important part is that Ienzo said the other heart stayed with him the majority of his life an the third one virtually his entire life. One off course being Ventus since he stayed with Sora since he was a kId until 10 years later(i think Sora had 4 or 5 years when Ventus enterd his heart and i'm not talking about connecting, yes Ventus heart and Sora's heart connected when Ventus was in Destiny Islands but only connected, Ventus only entered Sora's heart after defeating Vanitas) but what about the third one who was with Sora even more time? Sorry to say but because of that Xion being the third heart makes no sense. If Ienzo stated that two hearts stayed with him for year and the other the majority of his life then i would believe one of them being Xion.

[@Miniae_Cecilia]

Persona, kingdom hearts, one piece and the world ends with you?

[@pookyslickvoodoo9933]

Kingdom hearts obviously with the headband and crown necklace, Joker's mask from Persona 5, the art style of Twewy/Neo, and Luffy's hat from One Piece.

[@DARKMalice9000]

I don't think the Dark Inferno in Ventus is Ephemer. Look at the colors of the Dark Infernos. The one in the Battlegate has the red color the same as the scarf around Ephemer's neck. Its horns, wristbands, and neck covering. While the one in Ventus is more Yellow or Gold in coloration. But I don't know who's heartless is in Ventus though.

[@brady4324]

what if twilight thorn was his nobody, he's a nobody with a scarf.

[@Yokyle4356]

No I didn't forget about that but I did wonder why he showed up

[@ChumZoneGamingEnt]

Good video you got a new sub

[@gagejoseph91]

I wanted to mention this in an earlier video but just....never did. I've always liked your avatar because of the references. Clearly, the headband is a combination of KH insignias, plus the necklace, but when looking outside of KH... The overall model is Kariya from TWEWY Mask on the left shirt pocket is Joker from Persona 5 Headphones are from TWEWY, though color-swapped to be white and I believe you hand-drew that specific pair. The straw hat is obviously the one that Goku wears during the Dark Tournament arc of Zach Bell. EDIT: Wanted to clarify the insignias. It's an edit of the "Book of Prophecies" insignia. Take the BoP symbol and edit in the Kingdom Hearts heart, bottom-half of Terra's symbol, the crown, and the Dream Eater hooks on the sides. The devil wings are really the only remaining part of the original BoP symbol. EDIT #2: If the red and white jacket is a reference, it seems familiar but I can't quite place it.

[@TheHeartsDivergence]

😳

[@gagejoseph91]

@@TheHeartsDivergence Pretty sure I'm nail-on-the-head for all the ones I mentioned. Kitaniji never wears his headphones on his ears, so the model can't be ripped from that, and Neku's are always upright. Of course, the models can be rotated, but Neku's phones are wheel-like, and Kitaniji's are more like plump circles. Yours has a more mechanical design and includes that black line. So dollars to donuts those headphones are handmade. But I'm legitimately curious about the jacket lol

[@iliad9538]

In relation to your avatar, isnt it One Piece, Persona, Kingdom Hearts and The World Ends With You?

[@tenebraequeene]

As for your avatar I'm thinking the artstyle is inspired either by Bleach or TWEWY. Not sure which tho!

[@gagejoseph91]

It's TWEWY. Specifically, the model he uses is Kariya's.

[@MyKingofdiamonds]

Are the references KH, Persona, TWEWY, and One Piece?

[@idkhowidoit]

Maybe I'm wrong about the rules but the Master disappeared and said he would return one day. Xehanort returned in his original form after being completely destroyed. So maybe when sora died at the end of kh3 thats why the master was able to come back

[@djPrimucos]

Ok ephemer's name comes from the Latin basically meaning "day". Sora and yozora (both parts of a day), SOOOO, what if both of them are some type of reincarnation from ephemer and that's why apparently only sora saw ephemer. Crazy theory I know but I like it.🤣

[@Daydream_N]

Idk where you got ephemer means day, it means more like lasting only a day, or a very short while

[@TheTalan]

Persona, One Piece. Kingdom Hearts, The World Ends With you.

[@wow42theartist85]

Like think about it. If ephemer had a son and his son's were demyx and Luxord I kinda think that that's why we see Luxord in yozora's ending in kingdom hearts 3. He probably just hasn't seen him in a long long time or something

[@Thirdeyestrappd]

Dark inferno=ephemers will/heart and Yozora=Ephemers nobody I’m calling it right now and I believe the nameless star and female sora from versus Rex are Skuld

[@TevyaSmolka]

As much I would like to see ephemer make a comeback I think his story ended with kingdom hearts 3.

[@Jaylobeans]

"one who knows nothing can understand nothing" Tetsuya Nomura confirmed we will definitely see more of him and the Khux cast.

[@gracekim1998]

Well we know he’s dead but the fact that he appeared to SORA is nuts

[@yehiahuzayyin7972]

Any thoughts regarding Vanitas' future role in things? (Because let's be honest, there's no way he's gone forever.)

[@MrScaryPasta]

Sorry I’m late, but Nomura confirmed Ephermer passed away in Kingdom Hearts. That version of him we see in III was simply his spirit, left behind in the Keyblade Graveyard. Ephemer chose to stay there because he wanted to look over the souls of all those who perished. Once Sora arrived Ephemer was freed and came to his aid.

[@MikePSU]

#4... boondocks??

[@spiralkingxiii9496]

My guess

[@cash2995]

I feel like all the union leaders will return and it will union leaders vs foretellers and sora and friends will just be caught up in the middle of it learning more about why xehanort done what he did

[@MichaelLight96]

Is it One Piece, Kingdom Hearts, Persona, and The World Ends With You?

[@dita1786]

This is crazy.

[@Atlas92936]

the world ends with you? for the Avatar art style

[@glitchyfox8706]

in the games we have beaten alot of nobodys and heartless so there are likely quite a few normal people back to normal aswell. I dont think Ephemer's nobody would be beaten off screen and we either have beaten it before or will in the future. Or maby since Axel and some of the others kept their memorys of being human mabey Ephemer's nobody has been keeping out of the events that have been happening due to him knowing something we dont yet. Mabey he knows when the master can see things and has been keeping things safe out of sight as something we have to remember is that at one point in KH micky was the only active keyblade in the worlds so you would expect that alot more worlds would have fallen to darkness if that was truely the case. Mabey Ephemers nobody has been doing what roxas was doing and traveling worlds to take down heartless while waiting for the right time to strike himself down.

[@KnucklestheEcidna]

One piece, Kingdom hearts, Persona and TWEWY

[@jaccetaylor3672]

1.kingdom hearts 2. One piece 3. Persona 4. The world ends with you I think

[@CourtneyHartman-mm5zz]

I really hope it's Ephemer

[@Givejordr]

Kingdom Hearts, Persona, TWEWY, and One Piece

[@luxumbra14]

WHY DID YOU START THE VIDEO THIS WAY LMAAAAOOOO

[@noir4180]

For your character I guess The world end with you, kingdom hearts, one piece and persona 5

[@xanv8051]

luxu tookhis body also where the hert braig had

[@TheDbzthedgehog]

So the 4 are more than likely twewy, kh, persona and one piece, yeah?

[@christianroy5400]

Kingdom hearts, twewy, one piece, persona

[@dreisill23]

Persona,twewy, one piece, and kingdom hearts. Nice avatar

[@gracekim1998]

Well I have heard this theory about that heartless being Elphemer’s but….the only problem is he died ages ago😶 but eh🤷‍♀️ it’s still interesting

[@Dumbo-zx7oc]

Persona 5,one piece, kingdom hearts,twewy

[@Mr.raspint]

Kingdom hearts persona 5 one piece and the world ends with you

[@4Viewtiful_Rizo7]

Persona 5 / one piece / the world ends with you / kingdom hearts🎉🎉

[@wow42theartist85]

If I'm being honest ephemer reminds me of yozora so much like what if he's just possessed and the body is ephemer's and someone else is taking the wheel like they sound the same if you watch him in the keyblade graveyard and look at yozora's voice they sound very similar almost too similar I kinda think it's ephemer but an older him one that is a lot darker than he was maybe ??

[@LuCaaZ7]

The Vanitas wasn't a true darkness theory is true after all

[@Funny_Demon2007]

1. One piece 2.kingdom hearts 3.Boondocks? 4. ??????

[@matteo.cannizzo]

ephemer is mom

[@andreapiccolo8199]

Twewy

[@Gabriel-hu3xk]

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