Soooo I just reached 100 subs. I wanted to say that the reception from this video has been fantastic and I am over the moon with all of the kind words you guys have written! It honestly means a damn lot, so from the bottom of my vessel's heart, I thank you. I hope to see all of you in my upcoming videos if you choose to stick around
@henoccharlot7083 жыл бұрын
You deserve it. I’m 7 minutes in and I’m loving it so far because you aren’t just grasping at straws
@henoccharlot7083 жыл бұрын
I finished it last night and oh my God you seriously found multiple names in that edit to where you make him say the names amazes every single time. I really wonder how you did it and this theory is the best one that I’ve seen other than though he is light theory
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
@@henoccharlot708 Haha thanks for the kind words! The voice impression is all thanks to the voice actor Chris Burns. He did those names specifically for this video
@SpanishEchidna3 жыл бұрын
Man I cant believe it. Was just recommended your video after watching all the people you mention, but your theory blows all the others out of the water. Really looking forward to your next Braig video. I'd like to ask if there's any chance you'd talk about more paralels between VS XII and Verum Rex, or how TWEWY fits in the next KH stories. Big props to you and I will share this around!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
@@SpanishEchidna Thank you for the kind words friendo. It appears you've seen the Braig/Luxu thumbnail on my twitter feed! That was originally going to be my next video, but I've pushed it back to 3rd video since I'm working on something else currently. It's coming along nicely, should be out later this month. Can't wait for you to see it!!
@Komega013 жыл бұрын
his names gonna be something simple like Jim
@mechashadow3 жыл бұрын
If it was Bob, that would be true humour.
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
🤣
@kairi46403 жыл бұрын
That does sound like a Nomura thing lol.
@Z-A-C3 жыл бұрын
His name could be Sam S. Sol A. Astrum M. Moloch
@narwhalwrath95743 жыл бұрын
@@mechashadow Bob of Bobs
@starman10043 жыл бұрын
Astrem, anagram for Master, would be the ultimate checkmate move in this multi-dimensional chess game that is Kingdom Hearts lol
@codyacoop3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same thing!
@genocidegames84233 жыл бұрын
it would also sound similar to astrum
@TUCell-ps5mi3 жыл бұрын
“There is no U in Astrem, cause you aren’t a part of it and my plans.”
@McMurica3 жыл бұрын
9000 IQ
@nave7123 жыл бұрын
That would be cool
@gajaan3163 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, Sol can also be an acronym of "Seeker Of Light"
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Yep! A few people in the comments mentioned that! Also, Astrum can also be altered to Astrem, which is an anagram for Master
@LunaticoniSolar3 жыл бұрын
Also,in Latin derived languages like Spanish and Portuguese,Sol means sun
@jaykisuke339710 ай бұрын
Best theory
@MyKingofdiamonds3 жыл бұрын
I really like Sol, since it could also be used as an acronym for “Seeker of Light”
@starlife26823 жыл бұрын
Nomura watching this video be like "welp time to scrap that name"
@chapachuu3 жыл бұрын
Best MoM identity theory I've seen yet! One thing though: Yozora asking Sora why he's using "Sora's" name actually lends to the idea that Yozora does know a Sora that doesn't look like our Sora (you interpreted it as the opposite). For example, Yozora could know an older Sora (future Sora) or a vessel that houses Sora's heart or a piece of his heart. Yozora is surprised Sora is using the name Sora, but by asking why Sora is using Sora's name, it makes it sound like he has met a Sora that is not the Sora standing in front of him (does that make sense). Basically, he has met a Sora that is not the present Sora. I actually think this exchange lends a lot to the theory that MoM is the future Sora (even though I'm not fully convinced of that theory myself) just because of Yozora's reaction: if MoM is the Ardyn of Quadratum and Yozora is the Noctis, then they would be enemies. If Yozora were to meet a younger MoM (or Noctis met a younger Ardyn), would Yozora not try to save him from his fate? The whole Yozora conversation and the two endings would make a lot of sense in that context. EDIT: I do think that MoM has an original name, though. It makes sense this would be the case (I love the options you presented: they're all great contenders). I just think it's possible Yozora knows a different version of Sora and that Sora has ties to MoM in some way. Also, I've always personally believed that Yozora was MoM's nobody. But that's another theory altogether.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Those are some kind words; I hope you'll stick around
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@Z-A-C3 жыл бұрын
He does say why are you using “sora’s name” as if to say that he knows for sure that the name belongs to someone else... He definitely knows of a sora for sure, wether or not he’s met anyone named sora is to be debated.
@Z-A-C3 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus that thing you said about quadratum possibly being set in a the future of a timeline where darkness won against light like the BoP predicts... that’s very interesting. And I have something to add to that (you probably already got it figured out tho lol) When sora time traveled/used the power of waking for the first time, what happened to the timeline that he left? It most likely got conquered by darkness because sora pretty much disappears. And there probably were legends and fairy tales about it that yozora has heard of (probably heard the stories from the person who told him to save sora) And he’s probably thinking to himself “if sora hadn’t had disappeared, we would be in a better timeline”. Which is why he looks a little mad or disappointed when he says “sure... I’ve heard of you” So anyways, quadratum isn’t just unreality/fiction, it’s a whole other timeline that we could’ve seen if sora wasn’t the main character that we were following. Looks like the master has already succeeded in his plans to defeat all the darkness, at least in one timeline, he’s probably also trying to get rid of darkness across all timelines. Not exactly sure how it works, but it’s just that he needed ONE timeline where darkness failed, in order to erase the darkness in the whole universe Just something I thought I’d add to it. This is all so interesting and I can’t wait till we get the next kingdom hearts game
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
@@Z-A-C Yeah, I'm thinking that he knows the name Sora like we all know of the name "Jesus" for example. We don't literally know a guy named Jesus or have met him, but we are familiar with the name. The reason why I say Jesus is because the skull and crossbones on Yozora's sleeve are modeled after Sora's head (hair) and two Keyblades, symbolizing Sora's death. This leads me to believe that the Book of Prophecies is like a bible, and the guardians of light (Sora, Riku, Mickey etc) are all martyr figures and worshiped for their bravery in the Keyblade war. So Quadratum could be the distant future of either Data Daybreak town or the future where Sora lost and never changed his fate. But analyzing Yozora's dialogue, it's pretty clear he doesn't know anybody using the name personally because he's so impartial. He just accepts Sora with lines like "If you are who you say" and "Sora? You're Sora? Sure, I've heard of you."
@Arikadou3 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this vid for the second time. I seriously mean it when is say this - I cannot wait for more content from you. Literally anything.. just wanna hear your thoughts. I appreciate KHs lore so much and bearing other people talk about it is just so satisfying. I hope in future videos you brush on why yozora looks like riku etc. Take care!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
It humbles me that you'd take the time out of your day to watch my vid for a second time, so I sincerely thank you!! I have a long list of videos that I'll be cracking on with (around 15 on my list so far!) and I've been editing my 2nd video ever since this one dropped, which should be released at the end of this month or early May. One of the videos on my list will be specifically around Riku and his role. I won't spoil it for you, but Yozora will definitely play a part. Thank you for sticking around
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
It’s quite awesome
@TwilightFlower93 жыл бұрын
I mean, we all know the real reason that Yozora looks like Riku is that both look the way they do because Nomura is still salty about FFVSXIII.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
A few more little anecdotes for you guys: What is Demyx's title in the Organization? The Melodious Nocturne. It basically means "Melody of the Night". Could this further hint at a connection between Demyx and Yozora? Also, some geniuses in the comments noticed that Astrum is almost an anagram of Master, so could Nomura alter the name to Astrem for the double meaning? Still a neat little find, though.
@trulymrword3 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the case, I find it strange that his choice of instrument is a sitar however. Perhaps there is a bigger reason as to why, or not who knows at this point. If it interests you I noticed something odd that might be re-contextualized with this whole Quadratum reveal and the world of "Fiction" being a thing. It was strange during base KH3 that Luxord and Demyx have not any designated real names and that still remains to be the case. Perhaps is it possible that Luxord and Demyx are fake names already in the first place? Returning to the Book of Prophecies the Master of Masters made, it has the ability to harness powers from the future in-game as medals and as worlds the player can go into. They are in the same vein as Pooh's storybook, essentially fiction yet they exist as gateways only lasting an impact in the pages of the book. Since Luxord and possibly Demyx are people from Quadratum, that begs the question...how did they get in? Were they in the Unchained State? But that would mean others from Sora's realm should have strong connections to them before. The Master of Masters seems to be a fit but then there is another dilemma there, how can they interact with the world if they are Unchained? So I now then postulate that they went in a similar way, they have the connection and the means seem attainable. That would present its own problems namely, how can they affect reality in Sora's world if it was by going in a fictional world. However the Book of Prophecies spans the events after the Keyblade War as well and by creating the book MOM essentially made Sora's reality into fiction. Time wouldn't even be an issue if the two were in the Unchained State after all they have the connection and they can follow through using it. Perhaps, that was the reason as to why MOM created the books in the first place so that he can hop into the KH world and to Quadratum, easily bypassing the two. Why else would he make them for the Foretellers even though he essentially manipulated them into ruin? The names might not even matter if that is the case, the two act like they are just experiencing and interacting with the story. Sort of like Avatars in a video game. Well, this was a lengthy toss in the ring. There are many holes to my hypothesis that couldn't see. Also, why did I not see you sooner? You have great presentation and scripting as well as a soothing voice. Your work is criminally underrated.
@survivordave3 жыл бұрын
@Abdullah Alluhaidan I don't think so. The X is called the Recusant's Sigil and started with Xemnas and can be used by Xehanort in any of his iterations to track anyone marked with it (any of the Nobodies in Organization XIII or Sora, since he was marked with an X on his clothing). Xehanort got the idea from the Greek letter chi since he's obsessed with creating the X-blade (and the fact his own name had an X in it didn't hurt either). The Master of Masters was born way, WAAAAAAY before Xehanort, so I don't think it's likely his name would have an X except by sheer coincidence.
@nave7123 жыл бұрын
Maybe the master could even have some relation to the nameless star, maybe being her father
@Poruasecas3 жыл бұрын
just imagined Prompto saying "Dance bullets dance!" while blasting at the enemies and yeah, I hope the Demyx part is true, it would be awesome.
@princesspikachu3915 Жыл бұрын
I read this in David Bowie’s singing voice…
@SophiaSanders613 жыл бұрын
Here I thought you were a seasoned veteran in the war of KZbin content creation with a vast archive of content I could peruse. Instead I find I am fortunate to witness a legend in the making. This was a wonderful video and I can't wait to see more. You have my subscription and attention.
@LuxuFoo3 жыл бұрын
Bro I thought the same thing. Like this is the mans FIRST video. How the fuck do you even improve from here? This dudes gunna be an absolute legend.
@cozykomorebi71842 жыл бұрын
Me too!! I just found this and expected a backlogs of videos
@roykun63783 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love the whole thing with the repeated Master of Masters clip. It's so creative, and so compelling. I could watch this video multiple times, it's just so good. Makes me want to make something like this too. Awesome work!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words, friendo
@barsabe3 жыл бұрын
Im gonna mention how yozora was gonna save sora by basically trapping him for all eternity. Can it be that sora's fate is being the ardyn of the story and yozora just wants to save him just by intervening like that? We know mom is shown in quadratum
@WARPAINTandUnicorns3 жыл бұрын
The thing that most people don't know about Square is that a lot of ideas/stories they created were reused for future titles. FFVII created 3 other Final Fantasy games after it, when the staff did the story's concepts synopsize for the FFVII pitches and even Nomura created the character in Tifa after the story beats were already laid out for FFVII well into pre-production. FFVIII son Father dynamics were used. FFX world was the idea pitched for FFVII originally. So Nomura reusing his original story for Verse XIII in Kingdom Hearts might sound crazy but it's not an uncommon practice for the company at all. They've had a history of weaving new stories from story seeds from other game pitches. ;)
@brandonbrown69223 жыл бұрын
Waste not, after all.
@mechashadow3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Sol has the highest chance since we’re dealing and it’s also a sound synonym, nice editing~
@mechashadow3 жыл бұрын
Dealing with hearts* ironically
@goroOI233 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly well edited, and you bring up points I never thought of before! Well done, this is great.
@HarbingerMills3 жыл бұрын
Astrum could also be an anagram for Master. Astrum -> Mastur. just a little interesting insight haha
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
Ooooo!
@christiandavis67963 жыл бұрын
OK I LITERALLY CRIED TWICE WATCHIN THIS AND I AM LEFT WITH ONE QUOTE: "OK I BELIEVE YOU" I will see myself out
@DirtyBobBojangles3 жыл бұрын
Grow up
@cosmic_order3 жыл бұрын
Ardyn had to take demons into his body. The master of masters spoke of taking in darkness without letting it control him.
@nightcloud97003 жыл бұрын
14:57 "They are looking at each other, just as how we see them" Upon rewatching, this reminded me of "I think I understand. I see myself the way you remember me. And you see yourself the way I remember you."
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
The only difference is that Yozora doesn't remember Sora because he doesn't know what Sora looks like, only the name. Sora may be seeing Yozora as how he remembers, but it's strange for that to be the case only with Sora exclusively and not Yozora too, hence why I don't think there are any illusions at play. Yozora has been in that form for a while, even outside of his dreams when he wakes up in the car
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah 🤣 I remember that line
@theXVNDER3 жыл бұрын
this is an incredible theory. the editing was done so well and you brought a lot to light that even had me me like “OH WAIT” cause things started clicking. hope to see something taken out of your theory into the future games. keep up the incredible work. :)
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@Arikadou3 жыл бұрын
This was beautiful, loved your work here man 😭😭
@willsword81003 жыл бұрын
If you take apart the symbol of the master of masters you get what would resemble Soul Eater, a wing-like like sword, and the nobody symbol. my question is this, can you lose a heart to light in the same you can to darkness.
@maykupi41473 жыл бұрын
Awesome Question :) Never Heard Of This Before :) Thanks For Bringing It Up :) I'm Thinking You Can Lose Your Heart The Same Way As You Can In The Darkness :) Cool Concept Of Mom's Symbol :)
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
Hmmm good question 🤔
@TreAlmighty3 жыл бұрын
THIS THEORY IS SO UNDERRATED WTF
@IssaDeku3 жыл бұрын
I swear when people do kingdom hearts theories they go far and beyond and I love it just makes me more hype!
@samweedon5963 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that forms can be stolen in quadratum and I wonder if riku appears in a time in quadratum before sora had arrived, and yozora takes his form from him. Maybe riku is the one who tells yozora about sora after he is defeated or something
@Z-A-C3 жыл бұрын
That would also mean that the timeline of quadratum is definitely not parallel with the ours because yozora in riku’s form is shown in the toybox realm. And also I’m starting to think that the master stole yozora’s original body/form because why else would yozora need to take someone else’s form unless he’s lost his own to somone else?
@Z-A-C3 жыл бұрын
@@Jinsei24 could either be yozora or the master in that case as we see both the master and yozora in that last scene... If it does happen to be yozora in riku lookalike watching over him form then that makes me even more confused as to why he looks like riku.
@robertprivitera82493 жыл бұрын
If you watch the cutscene from KH3 where kairi reads a letter to Sora during her training with YEN SID - you will see a similiar “light flash” on the screen when kairi says “Sora.” Check it out- pretty strange
@robertprivitera82493 жыл бұрын
I think this will give you more proof to the MoM name.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
oooo I'll be sure to check that out, thanks for the heads up!
@lindsay85383 жыл бұрын
Incredible theory, incredible editing, what can I say, it’s briliant! I hope you will bless us with more videos in the future.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! And absolutely, I have a long list of theories I'm working on tirelessly. I'm glad you're along for the ride :)
@lindsay85383 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus Ah that’s great news, I can’t wait ;)
@danieloftamriel3 жыл бұрын
This was wonderfully edited! I can’t wait to see more of your work. I just wanted to add that the person who did an impression of MoM saying Moloch scared me. It felt a little too real lol.
@Etrodecim3 жыл бұрын
This literally the best theory video I've ever seen on the topic. as a die hard fan of both KH and FF, this video was so well researched and the editing is insane! I had to subscribe right away.
@toddlemmon013 жыл бұрын
I second that
@LuxuFoo3 жыл бұрын
Facts.
@Z-A-C3 жыл бұрын
Honestly The name Moloch would be the coolest one and the most terrifying. I’d pick that one. Edit: so I now realize, he’s related to 4 main things. Light, Ardyn, Pride, and Lucifer His name has to be more close to something that’s related to light. So that actually eliminates Moloch as an option. As cool as that name is it can’t be it. It HAS to be either Sol or Astrum Sol = light/sun Lucifer and pride Astrum = light/star Ardyn and Lucifer (Ardyn was pretty much an equivalent to the Antichrist in FFxv What if his name a combo of both like “astrol” or “solstrum” Unless there’s another word that has a tie to all 4 connections to the master of masters, it has to be either Astrum, sol, or a combination of both
@TheDaysEnd3 жыл бұрын
Omfg with the update today, maybe Brain ("was") Xigbar and is just pretending to be Luxu because (he lied) and did read the book of prophecies in full. This could mean Demyx did hear the may your heart be your guiding key from Xigbar as he is in fact Brain and not Luxu. The way Brain said it, it was like he had ownership of it like his own personal mantra. Having said all of this, that is not to say Luxu couldn't have body swapped with Brain later on to take on the KH3 identity of Xigbar. As for the naysayers maybe when Brain passed the book unto Ventus he didn't want to create a temporal paradox so he told Ventus he never really read much of it (when in fact he did).
@Shadowrealm1503 жыл бұрын
One of the best things about KH is the theory crafting, and this is one of the better ones I've heard. Very well done.
@TheDragonaf13 жыл бұрын
Well based on another theory I saw a year ago and what happened in the KHUX story update with darkness saying "we don't like light either". The MoM's name is "Light"
@maxemldr3 жыл бұрын
Your video is the perfect example of why I love Kingdom Hearts and how Nomura writes his stories. I have subscribed to your channel!
@gengashaunt33223 жыл бұрын
Love that you used Dark Cloud music, i love that game
@victorbasurto65923 жыл бұрын
Okay so I just had this minor thought with the Astrum name, what if Nomura does a little switch and makes it Astrem instead of the u? If you swap that around it is an anagram of Master. Hmmmmmm
@imadziani69832 жыл бұрын
Dude, i literally "TRAVELED" by watching your video, i didn't even realize 35 whole mins have passed, that's mind blowing, you have an absolutely incredible and unmatched (at least for me) talent for these videos. Just..wow.
@weridplusho3 жыл бұрын
Hot damn this is awesome. The amount of research and putting the bits together you did really shines through throughout this entire video. Can't wait to see more theories from you.
@blksheepramirez3 жыл бұрын
It would seem you have years of experience doing this KZbin thing! Amazing video, subbed. Keep at it bro
@Fragmentsinfractals4883 жыл бұрын
Also, Astrum, Eyes like a Hawk. Eye of Providence.
@cross355863 жыл бұрын
Plus move the letters around like with nobody's and astrum could be mastur
@abrilpendleton60363 жыл бұрын
The mixing of KH with the background music of Silent Hill makes me more interested as the video progresses. 😯
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss! It just tucks you neatly into this vibe
@ArdynSol3 жыл бұрын
Weird observation, Magia actually looks extremely similar to Ardyn from FF15. The hair, the hat, and the coat.
@drakath57273 жыл бұрын
31:20 The 7 doors could even be represented by the 7 black pieces as seen in the cutscene of Xehanort being shown a new game by Eraqus. 7 Pieces of Dark and 1 White King. 7 Dark Doors and 1 Light Moloch. This is further fueled by a bunch of the black pieces having tops that represent each of the union leaders, all sharing animals symbolically tied to the 7 deadly sins, as well as 1 representing the heartless symbol (Riku possibly due to how prominently it is on his keyblade up until KH3, or possibly representing the door to darkness that Riku helped close) and 1 which is hard to discern the exact shape of due to the camera angles.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
The 7 black pieces are the five foretellers, Luxu and the MoM. Five pieces all with the union animals, Luxu with his goat symbol and MoM with his symbol as seen on the book of prophecies. Sora is the single white piece. It'll be really interesting to see how the foretellers will antagonize Sora, seeing as how they don't seem inherently evil when we see them in Back Cover and KH3. Ugh, personally I'd LOVE for his name to be Moloch. It just sounds sick lol
@edgeofultima74832 жыл бұрын
Something I only just noticed after about my sixth time watching this video is that the "Darkness" in Kingdom Hearts kind of operates similarly to the starscourge in 15. Not sure if the starscourge was a Nomura or Tabata inclusion, but it just reminds me of how Ardyn was initially absorbing it from other people to heal them but it wound up being part of the reason that he ended up the way he did. And the Master of Masters plan is to have the Darkness absorbed into himself and the Foretellers in order to get rid of it.
@mydayzclips132 жыл бұрын
It seems darkness is a concept that exists in most FF games just with different names, Sin in FFX, geostigma in FF7 etc they are all very similar ideas
@Dragnarok13 жыл бұрын
Finally. A lore channel like vaatividya that i can fall asleep to, but for kingdom hearts. I've scoured everywhere on KZbin for a channel like this. Thank you. 😌
@ansem_is_hansome17183 жыл бұрын
Mind blown! I actually sat down and took a page of notes on this! This is one of the best theories ive ever seen i really look forward to future theories vids of yours now i gotta go do some research and contemplating
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Wow man, that is some unreal praise. I always love it when a theory inspires others to come to their own terms, so I sincerely thank you. My new video is so close to being done! It's just in the clean-up stages now.
@ChrisPTenders3 жыл бұрын
Your work is fascinating. Came straight here from your second video. You are doing the untold depths of Kingdom Hearts some real justice. Great use of music here as well, givin me chills and all that good stuff. Fantastic.
@AuroraExhale3 жыл бұрын
I’ve listened to this multiple times, and I am FLOORED by the work and detail you’ve put in here. Your points genuinely make a lot of sense, and your presentation of them is captivating. This easily put you in my top favorites for this kind of content, and I look forward to your thoughts in the future!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking to time to watch the video multiple times! and I look forward to seeing you in my upcoming videos. Videos like this take time but I am hard at work to get them out there as we speak
@TakeTheWorld213 жыл бұрын
AMAZING theory, I also love how you’re the first to actually touch on Yozora’s form “not being his own”
@psyborg893 жыл бұрын
Let’s also not forget that the Toy Story characters thought Sora was Yozora despite him looking almost nothing like him. Maybe our image of sora and what we see isn’t what sora looks like
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
It is very strange that Rex mistook Sora for Yozora, despite looking nothing like him save for the clothes. In the cut cutscene from the jumpfesta trailer back in 2018, Rex also mistook Donald and Goofy for Magia and Aegis but it was removed from the final product. Yozora says "This isn't what I really look like"... so perhaps before his appearance was changed, he looked a lot more like Sora? That would explain why Rex mistook him. Perhaps in the early game of Verum Rex, Yozora's appearance gets changed to look more like Riku. But the main thing that disproves this is that Yozora never comments on Sora's appearance. If Sora maybe looks like the original Yozora, then he would notice that when they meet and he'd say something about it. Either Rex is a complete and utter idiot or perhaps the toys are actually seeing Yozora from the video game instead of Sora.
@psyborg893 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus it is a tough one to figure out why they thought that, but like you stated, little to nothing has "no relevance" in a Nomura script. There's a reason they mistook Sora for Yozora despite clear differences in appearances (especially with the blocky aesthetic that Sora had in Toy Box). Maybe the same way some people saw Roxas and the really saw Sora and vice versa they are seeing Yozora but someone else's heart that he is housing. Perhaps the form Yozora is now is the equivalent of Roxas to Sora and thus there is a Ven that the image is based off of. Yozora's actual "heart" looks more like Sora than Yozora does and so the Toy Box crowd sees that image instead of the Yozora we see (or something to that effect). Super convoluted but we'd be lying if we didn't say that's par for the course for Nomura.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
@@psyborg89 Yeah for sure, it also reminds me of when Xigbar looked at Xion in 358/2 Days, he saw Ven instead. Toy Box is actually a super interesting world, in the fact that Young Xehanort states that it's a "copy" of the real world and the toys were transported there, which is why Andy can't be found. This is the exact same trope used in DDD with the two copies of Traverse Town. Not sure what this all means, but I think YX knows a lot more than we may suspect
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
Unless they literally see him as Yozora 🤣
@Another14-3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this entire video for a second time because it's so good! Some might be intimidated by the length but they're just missing out 💙
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
WOW. That means a lot to me that you enjoy it this much. Can't wait for you to see what else I have in store
@Another14-3 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus looking forward to more good content bro
@TheGentleLotus2 жыл бұрын
It's my 3rd time and still loving it 😌
@Another14-2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGentleLotus I think ima watch it again too, I don't remember it from the title alone 😭 I feel like this was one of my favs
@pajamaletsplay98593 жыл бұрын
This is a truly amazing video! The editing is flawless, I love the idea of MoM being Arden, and just all of it is an excellent video. Thank you for the credit, though I would have settled for the link in the description. It's the first time I've been given a shout out on KZbin. I've already subscribed, and I can't wait to see what else you come up with!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
It was my pleasure!! And likewise. That entire Demyx section wouldn't exist if it weren't for you.
@pajamaletsplay98593 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus If you ever want to collab, let me know. Best way to reach me right now is email, pajamaletsplay@gmail.com. I just recorded a video about the Norse Gods in Dark Road, but I noticed that mention of Niflheim with Arden, so there's probably something there.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
@@pajamaletsplay9859 That will definitely be something I will consider in the future! Right now I have a slew of different videos and topics planned, one of which I'm working on as we speak. I'll be sure to write it down in my plans. Thanks so much for watching my video and best of luck with your future projects!!
@GreenRequiem3 жыл бұрын
This video and theory is unbelievably great--I can't wait to watch what else you'll make (love the music choices!!!)
@luxsame30833 жыл бұрын
I really like the ideas that you brought out with this theory. You have great editing, are very descriptive, and the whole thing was visually fantastic. Easy sub from me!
@TrinityGamer27 күн бұрын
... fun fact, Lucius is one of the Latin names that mean light Also, people forget that there was 2 rikus in the game, Riku - sora's friend, and Rikku - FFX-2 member of the gulwings (KH2)
@Kyosharo13 жыл бұрын
It’s gems like this video that are the reason I love YT. I love everything about this video. The visual presentation, your vocal delivery & the background music choice- especially the ones from Dark Cloud, one of my favorite games of all time. With a like, favorite and subscribe I eagerly await the next video you produce.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Aww, thanks a bunch. It honestly means quite a lot to me that you'd say that. Dark Cloud and KH were actually the very first PS2 games I played at my cousin's house as a wee child, so those two games are closely connected in my brain. SUCH a good ost, too! It just gives the video a unique sense of identity to contrast slapping a familiar KH track everyone knows and calling it a day lol My next video is coming very soon, so see you then!!
@fernandovillarreal92943 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Was instantly hooked, you literally made a 35 minute video feel like a 5 minute video, because there was never a dull moment. Keep up the awesome work! 👍🏼
@noobstoise10243 жыл бұрын
This was a really strong theory, and it was great to watch. Though, playing FFXV the parallels don't end with just the characters and their roles. The experiments with the Heartless explained in KH1 and the reports explaining the events of the Star scourge found through Nifilheim on the way to the crystal share very striking similarities. Just like in both cases when a heart turns into a heartless the body disappears, the same thing happens when becoming a daemon and is spread like a pandemic. The artificial heartless and magitech soilders both work on very similar principles as well. And in this case the crystal for lucis and the keyhole are both important keeping their world from falling to darkness. Why bring this up, I'm not entirely convinced all of Nomura's idea were scrapped when making FFXV. Noctis was absolutely supposed to play as a thematic parallel to Sora. And Nomura might still be playing with that idea.
@Fragmentsinfractals4883 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at Baldr and Lady Lunareya's brother? They look similar.
@theUNION83 жыл бұрын
Glad this was in my recommended. A very fun listen
@khalidmitcham48882 жыл бұрын
I’ve been really into video essays on my favorite video games and I’ve stumbled on channels like yours, The Secret Reports, Damo279, and so many more and you all have amazing theories and do such a great job editing these video essays!! Please keep doing these videos cause they are honestly beloved!! (Side note but I screamed when I heard the music from Dark Cloud in the intro cause I grew up playing that game and that specific song you used is ingrained in my mind!!)
@JulioRodriguez-io3zl5 ай бұрын
What that music called 9:08.
@seemangalbj3 жыл бұрын
This is a truly terrific video; extremely compelling, well edited, and you have a great speaking voice. Looking forward to potentially more content from you. Earned yourself a sub.
@ashleecastro20973 жыл бұрын
This video was beautifully put together
@SquareInsider3 жыл бұрын
Well done. I can't say anymore. - Zeal
@toddlemmon013 жыл бұрын
Dude this video was top notch 👌🏼 The theory was great. Loved the editing and music. Please make more 🙏🏼
@Z-A-C Жыл бұрын
I just want to say, Luxu is more of a Ardyn equivalent than the Master is. The master of masters is in his own league, and I don’t think he even has a real name or a sense of identity. Much like his keyblade which he says has no name as well. It’s almost like he lost his identity from wherever he came from, he’s spiritually enlightened. I think he wants to make a name for himself, i think his name should start with the letter Z as well because I don’t know of any original Kingdom hearts character with that starts with the letter Z. I say he should name himself “Zora” because he’s possibly Sora’s father, and clearly Yozora ties in with everything somehow. I think his real name is Zora, and that’s something that literally no one has guessed. Maybe it’s something simple like “Zac” which is a name that can’t really be affected by the letter X lol.
@FNSSEIOS3 жыл бұрын
Bro you worked so hard on this I had to sub
@yourMoonstone3 жыл бұрын
This is incredible!! I love this vid and looking forward to more coming from you, about KH or whatever, your enthusiastic presentation is infectious. Thanks for this!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
WOAH! I know you! I remember watching your grand unified KH theory video back when that dropped. You and many others were an inspiration for me. If I've seen a theory, chances are it inspired me to start making videos. I'm not only thankful, but honored that you'd take the time to watch this. I hope you'll stick around for more. Hoping to release my next video sometime this month!
@NextGenNovelist3 жыл бұрын
28th sub and 28th like! Phenomenal first video. Great presentation. You put some great ideas out there, particularly with the research you did into the Master's name, those are some suggestions I ain't ever heard before and you presented a convincing case for them all. But yeah I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you on that nameless star bit! 😁 But your counterpoints were fair and expressed well. I look forward to seeing what else you come out with.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, you were one of the few inspirations for me to start making KH videos in the first place, so it means the world to me that you enjoyed the video!! (Your name is in the end part of the video if you didn't happen to catch it) Even though I've heard the Sora/Nameless Star theory from a few places, you were definitely the person in mind when writing that section. I suppose only time will tell, eh? Glad you're sticking around for what else I have in store and thanks for watching
@NextGenNovelist3 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus Ah I missed that. Thanks a lot for the mention! Feels weird seeing my name in someone else's video, and even weirder that you said I was one of your inspirations. I know I got videos from over a year ago, but I only started getting serious about these videos in November, so I'm still a newbie to this myself, so to hear that I've inspired anyone is flattering. And ofc I'm sticking around man, I have no doubt you'll continue to produce some great stuff
@MLink233 жыл бұрын
Wow the recent union x ending part 2 solidifies that Moloch name even harder with the sacrifice part with the other masters.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about that yesterday! The 7 doors on Moloch's chest could also be a representative of the 7 strongest Darknesses sealed inside of their hearts.
@andybru3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible video. You definitely got my head spinning. Looking forward to the next one!
@poterror3 ай бұрын
So this is just a random thought I had: Six of the Seven Deadly Sins are referenced in the names of the six apprentices of the Master of Masters: "Aced" is a diminutive of "Acedia" for "Sloth"; "Ava" is a diminutive of "Avaritia" for "Avarice" or "Greed"; "Gula" means "Gluttony"; "Ira" for "Anger" or "Wrath"; "Invi" is a diminutive of "invidia" for "Envy"; and "Luxu" is a diminutive of "Luxuria" or "Lust." So what's missing? Well The inscription "χsuper" on the Black Box is a reference to the Latin names of the Seven Deadly Sins, since "Super" is the diminutive of "Superbia", that is, "Pride". Let's be on the lookout for characters who have names with anagrams of the words "Super(bia)" and "Pride" like Arrogance, Ego, Vanity (VANITAS?), Hubris, etc. Pride also fits the Morningstar / Lucifer theme. There is also a thread from 2016 floating around out there indicating that I'm not the first person who had this "The MoM is Vanitas" idea. Not an idea I'm married to; just one I happened to have and figured I would share.
@Another14-3 жыл бұрын
This is a good first impression. Greet vid! Subscribed now 🤟🏾
@K_logart3 жыл бұрын
Leaving a comment, hoping that more people can find you; I can see the hard work put on the video and on the theory itself and it was just so well made and executed; I'll love to see more content from you, and thanks for the video!!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Honestly for the video only being up for a week so far, I couldn't be more grateful for how much traction this has received for a brand new channel. I always get new feedback every day and it has only been increasing. For you to have seen it, KZbin must be doing something right lol I can only thank people like yourself who took the time out of their day to click, watch and comment. I sincerely hope you'll stick around, I have more cooking in the oven as we speak.
@POOFAYMANN Жыл бұрын
I think in the end KH will be super simple. Nomura has made his storyline so "complicated" and "guessable" ON PURPOSE. He wants all of us to be guessing and theorizing the outcomes of the series, just so he can come back, and smack us all right in the face with simplicity. Its simple. It has to be.
@MyKingofdiamonds2 жыл бұрын
A little off topic, but I had a thought about Demyx and his “hanging out with the old guy a lot. The ‘May Your Heart Be Your Guiding Key guy’.” I think the “Old Guy” is Luxu or, rather, Luxu’s heart, separated from Braig’s body after Xigbar’s creation.
@JT-Barney3 жыл бұрын
Best theories I’ve heard in a while. Visuals were great as well. Keep up the good work!
@MSharif063 жыл бұрын
beautifully constructed video! It paved way for more possible speculation and theories to come. Thank you very much!
@willsword81003 жыл бұрын
We could have the parallel of Kings of Yor from FFXV and the Keyblade Masters of KH.
@jmndz28523 ай бұрын
Just earned my sub. Theory: Ardyn states in FF15 that you’ll never guess whose name Izunia was. Possibly MoM’s?
@TheCostumeNinja3 жыл бұрын
Subscribing and liking- I completely agree with the last name. I think it encompasses the grand idea he really is much more than calling him just light. Really awesome video and a joy to watch
@TUCell-ps5mi3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly pretty cool, and really has me thinking after all the parallels were shown. But those three names in particular, each one of them sound so unique and fit so well... This video was a beautifully made man, edited, voiced and even the music. I hope that your right.
@Photimus3 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, Luxord has the least screen time of all Organization XIII members, yet he is so rememberable and charismatic that his voice can immediately be recognized from a few words.
@Zero_de_Nova Жыл бұрын
LUXord...oh my god
@elias92x3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job on this. I loved every second of it
@sh4d0wfl4re3 жыл бұрын
I think you are truly on to something with "astra" it holds the twin meanings of sky and star befitting a master of light tied somehow to Sora. Though if we were looking into Fabula Nova Chrysalis lore, I don't actually think Arden will give us much predictive value... not directly. FFXV was isolated from the rest of the trilogy it was made for. FF13 focused on Etro, while Agito/Type 0 focused on Lindsei... which left Pulse's story mostly untouched. FF13-2 was originally planned but after they canned 13-versus they decided to continue with 13-3. The main themes of 13-3 were the death of the world, redemption and rebirth. Of these themes FF15 seemed to follow all of them, but it advertised a forth theme: brotherhood. If I were to hazard a guess of what was removed from FF13-versus to give of XV, I would guess it was the dead goddess of death and rebirth, Etro and her sibling Pulse. If we add the implications of these two back in, Arden becomes someone who Bound to the Fal'ce Ifrit and was under the domain of Pulse... In fabula nova chrysalis lore followers of Pulse all got pretty caught up in the formation of Chaos, or the souls of the dead that failed to move on. If the MoM were banished to a realm outside of normal spacetime where dimensional powers are lost and voices cannot reach, this resembles the Unseen Realm first named in FFVI, but present in much if the series. In FFIX the first layer to entering the Unseen Realm is Memoria, also called as Valhalla, past Memoria is the Crystal World which holds back Chaos and the Void. Chaos in Final Fantasy is kind of the power of the living heart and dead soul, it is more complicated than that something something darkness, something something light, something something astral energy, something something Crystals. Regardless of the exact details the power of the Heart is under the domain of Chaos in Final Fantasy games, and in FF13-2 the death of Etro causes the power of chaos (in this case souls) to run amok leading to the events in 13-3 where no one can die and souls can't reincarnate, also the world is shrinking as it starves to death. How does this apply to 13-versus and Ardyn? We don't know the exacts, but early trailers with the song Somnus had Stella praying to a dead Etro, Noctus was the prince/king to a kingdom with the Last Crystal (fal'ce), and the ancient Ardyn was playing politics while acting on the behalf of Ifrit(?assuming that wasn't changed). With these pieces it seems reasonable to guess that Ardyn was acting in a role not unlike Garland, trying to save the dead at the cost of the living. From what we have seen of the MoM, going into some Unseen Realm, having a plan that has already brought the dead back to life, having a plan to defeat the tide of darkness for good, perhaps he is in fact going to make a Flood of Light that will sacrifice Quadratum in order to prevent further floods of light or darkness, thus appeasing the dead and creating a new world that is free from the Karma of the past. Honestly a plan like this is one of being blinded by the light and accidentally doing an evil with the best intentions... the MoM might be another Ansem the Wise style character more than the true mastermind and villain of Kingdom Hearts like people are hyping him up to be. I expect him to test Sora rather than try to defeat Sora, and Sora will likely have to defeat him and stop his dangerous plans to have Kingdom Hearts scour darkness from the World or somesuch. Then after he would do his best to provide guidance to Sora and Co but he would pass the chessboard onto Sora
@B-rex3953 жыл бұрын
Xigbar is luxu, he even said so at the end of KH3. The “old guy” and “may your heart be your guiding key” guy probably IS Xigar, or to be more precise luxu.
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Demyx knows Xigbar. As I said in the video: 1. Xigbar would never say this phrase out in the open 2. Demyx wouldn't say the "May your heart be your guiding key guy", he'd just say "Xigbar". Him saying that implies that he doesn't know who he's talking to and he's unfamiliar.
@benjamin77463 жыл бұрын
Literally watching this video on a daily basis and I'm salty it's not getting that much views despite your marvelous work. I'm sharing this on Twitter idc
@cocoellawella931510 ай бұрын
Bruh there’s a whole line of the nameless star saying that her name was stolen and that the one who her heart pines for no longer remembers her in the state he’s in and that when he remembers he would be upset by her absence. Also Yozora’s outfit and even his eyes make him look like a combination of Sora and Riku. I think that Yozora has lost his memory of the nameless star and so she has also lost memory of her own name.
@fastmerrick07563 жыл бұрын
You need way more subscribers, this theory was so good!!!
@DG_Digs2767 Жыл бұрын
Maybe with all of the things he's been through in his life perhaps he might be a very enlightened individual. Maybe certain back story in the next game will reveal that. An enlightened individual who understands existence on a much deeper level than anyone in that respective reality.
@JolteOnWisconsin3 жыл бұрын
More videos please! This was incredible!
@andresmarrero86662 жыл бұрын
Regarding the star symbolism there is an old Disney movie called The Black Hole and we know how black holes are born. From the death of a star.
@pwns247 Жыл бұрын
Im convinced MoM is light personified or an agent of light of some sort. Im also convinced that when he disappeared he did something along the lines of a light version of heartless/nobody turning into Yen Sid and Merlin alike. That OR just Yen Sid is MoM, or at least tightly acquainted, and heres some reasons why i beleive that: Yen Sid is a keyblade master, so where did his keyblade go? He gave it to Luxu. Also Yen Sid creates new keyblades for Riku, and Mickey, and (as far as I know) the only person known to be able to CREATE keyblades was MoM. In KH3 the ONLY time you see Yen Sid anywhere but seated in his chair is in the Keyblade graveyard when he descends from the sky as a ball of light then uses light to part the sea of darkness like friggin Moses. I think Nomura intentionally wanted us to be reminded of Moses in that scene. Also in KH3 one of the loading screens is Mickey saying "the second youre not looking Master Yen Sid's tower pops up someplace new. Who'd have thought he has a playful side?" Well in KHUX Chirithy narrator says "in the Master's playful and mischievous way he gave his apprentice, Luxu, a very important role." I dont think thats a coincidence either. BOTH Yen Sid AND Merlin just CREATED worlds outside of the normal constraints of time for every other world in the realm of light. That right there could explain where MoM disappeared to. Merlin's bag of infinite space is (presumably) a lot like the black box. In KH3 when you meet up with Merlin at the bistro he says "this side of Big Ben". I believe that to be very intentional because obviously Big Ben is in London IRL. Quadratum is modeled after Shabuya in Tokyo. "This side" may be referring to what Ansem the wise called "our side" and the other side of Big Ben being "unreality". Was Merlin letting slip that he's had tea on the other side (unreality/quadratum)? I believe so. Im also quite surprised no one has pointed out the "quad" as in a 4 sided square in quadratum. Light, dark, inbetween, and QUADratum ("unreality") being the 4th side. At the very least i believe Yen Sid at the very least acquainted with MoM in a big way because of the two most obvious clues that should be slapping every KH junkie in the face: the first is the skull with the melting candle ontop is on both Yen Sid's AND MoM's desk, and the most damning of all is Yen Sid's book thats always open with wierd symbols that look an awful lot like any sneek peak we ever got at the Book of Prophecies. NOT TO MENTION in KH2 he lets you read its 3 sections: The Beginning, Interlude, and The FUTURE STORY!!!! YEN SID HAS A BOOK OF FRIGGIN PROPHECIES! Which would explain why Yen Sid was so obsessed with Sora obtaining the Power of Waking so he can further his plot in Quadratum! It couldnt have had anything to do with waking Ventus. Riku had the power of waking the whole damn time. He could have done it. One last point: as far as I know the only characters to ever say "may your heart be your guiding key" are ones that have ties to the age of fairytales, yet Yen Sid utters it right before they depart for the keyblade graveyard in KH3, and at the very beginning Goofy says he always used to say it. Im sure i could find many other small reasons why I believe Yen Sid (and possibly Merlin as well) IS the Master of Masters. At the very least I think (unless Nomura does something stupid) its pretty undeniable Yen Sid is, or was, at the very least intimately intertwined with MoM. If you actually read this whole comment please let me know what you think about my theory! Add some supporting clues, or point out holes and flaws! As far as i can tell theres only one youtube video about this theory, but its not very in depth or compelling, and i would LOVE to see some attention brought to the points ive made here! Thanks for reading, Champ!
@christhecrazy6904 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else just kinda come back every couple of months and watch through this guy's amazing videos? Love these videos, man. Eager to see more. Also fun fact: After hearing your explanations for each name. I ended up giving my FFXIV character the surname Astrum. just sounds so badass and heroic.
@josephallen39783 жыл бұрын
What? This is your first video? The quality is insane!
@SonnyNovus3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks ;) hope you stick around
@josephallen39783 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus Yes! I've subbed and hit the bell, looking forward to more!
@gracekim19983 жыл бұрын
@@SonnyNovus whoa that’s incredible
@evilriiyone Жыл бұрын
Ay, in XV Ardyn said "you'll never guess who Izunia was," I'm thinking MOM may be Izunia and this is an over arching plot to bridge together KH and FF.
@lightkikib33553 жыл бұрын
... wow, absolutely outstanding work. I do think the Master's name's gonna be Sol, just on the basis of how similar it sounds to Sora... Nomura loves those kind of parallels you've earned a well-deserved follow 😊
@ironbaysqiureg48273 жыл бұрын
I think that If Versus 13 Was Released As attended they was supposed to be some superboss fight with sora. But now as it turned out Kingdom Hearts has to take the Blunt Of building what would have been Is a 2 game act
@socialexperimentable3 жыл бұрын
astrum would fit into the conventional nomura naming convention astrum = mastur it's not perfect, but it works