Epic (amiga)

Played on A1200 config. Intro, gameplay (3:26) & cinematics.
Tried it for the first time. I was planning to complete this, but mission 5 was annoying as hell. The objective is to destroy 100 crap flies in ten minutes after which fuel runs out. There's a built in cheat which replenishes fuel and ammo, but I'm not going to use it.
Publisher: Ocean (1992)
www.lemonamiga.com/games/detai...

[@cenkhanevcil1974]

I never forget, Music Athmosphere, I'm now 45 years old

[@Kamamura2]

47 years old here, good times back on Amiga ;-)

[@cenkhanevcil1974]

@@Kamamura2 Amiga was Legend I never forget this 😊 👍 😁

[@carloscastanheiro2933]

43 here , I loved my Amiga. Played this game and now play Elite Dangerous, huge leap for mankind lol.

[@varukenprime445]

@@carloscastanheiro2933 my words. Elite Dangerous is for people that played this 😂

[@toughguyver6986]

@@carloscastanheiro2933 Microsoft DOS PCs had better graphics but Amiga had better sound!

[@swampjajc]

I loved this game, I played it for hours & hours and completed it. I am debating if to play this trhough again now or leave it in 1992 where I loved it.

[@dahauns]

Remember, the DID engine was unmatched at the time in terms of speed. It was playable just fine on an A500, and super smooth on an A1200.

[@JohnnyReb1976]

I do remember being impressed on how smooth the game ran, alas the gameplay did not intrigue me.

[@planetrift]

For those who don't know.. the backstory (I heard from people in the industry at the time) is that they wanted to make something like Battlestar Galactica. But they "borrowed" from all sorts of movies. The game was developed at the same time as Wing Commander, but was released later. OT: Wingcommander was initially called Squadron. Guess who is making "Squadron 42" ? 42 the meaning of life an everything.. this is the game he wanted to make from the very beginning. Think about what that type of dedication really means. Chris have wanted to make this game his whole life.

[@chriscowey7464]

It is indeed very similar to Battlestar Galactica in terms of the storyline, even the fighters look like Vipers.

[@SubduedRadical]

@@chriscowey7464 To be fair, that's the most generic fighter shape you can make - a straight line nose, cockpit in that main fuselage structure, some engines on the back, a pair of horizontal wings and a vertical wing/tail. The Z-95 Headhunter (proto-X-Wing) is basically the same design, too, just without the tail fin. Which makes sense, considering BSG was basically contemporary with Star Wars for "first sci-fi focused on starfighter combat". Star Trek predated both by a decade, but was more of a navy than space-air force themed combat setting. (And often more focused on the drama than the combat at any rate)

[@05Rudey]

My favourite game for my Amiga for about 2 years, thought it was perfection.

[@wildone106]

This plays better than Star Citizen lol

[@shoutingstone]

5 years since you made that joke and it's still funny

[@jeffmaesar]

@@shoutingstone i m sure it will be still funny in 5 years (happy anniversary to Wing Commander though)

[@shoutingstone]

@@jeffmaesar I'll set a calendar appointment. See you in 5 years dude! :)

[@LoganHunter82]

Joke still works in late 2020

[@wildone106]

@@LoganHunter82 Sad but true

[@PotholesInMyLawn]

Loved this game... the Amiga (which I still have sitting on my desk) was so awesome!

[@cenkhanevcil1974]

YOU'RE LUCKY :)

[@weldonwin]

I had this way back in the day, but never got very far, but that was really because I was a little kid back then. One thing I really remember, was the demo for F-29 Retaliator 2, which was basically a stand alone mini campaign, contained a teaser for Epic, in that you got to fight Rexon fighters on Earth

[@SpacialKatana]

I had the Amiga 1200 with a 68060 CPU....ran this easy as hell, as was the game. I forget how many times I completed it in a row :D

[@HerrCherno]

The music reminds me of It Came from the Desert with it's ominous, threatening tone.

[@SpacePoodle]

Ah... the good old days when Vipers and Y-Wings fought side by side.

[@DextorSunrunner]

I used to love this game in the 90s. Can you believe I bought epic from Boots back when Boots used to sell games.

[@joeymoldano6246]

This is so awesome game. Ahead of its time.

[@richardcavell]

Those graphics are fast considering the technology of the time. The gameplay is strange but for a 3D game, it's playable.

[@005AGIMA]

its being played on an A1200 configuration (emulated) according to the description, so that's a 32 bit system. When the game came out, most people would have played it on a 16 bit A500 or A600, so it would not have been this smooth. I know. I had it lol. It was shit.

[@captainzeppos]

The most epic fact about this game is that the official manual (included in the packaging) would state in broad daylight that by pressing numpad enter you would get infinite ammo and fuel. Nice!

[@CruelestChris]

No, it was weirder than that. The box included a sealed envelope which warned you it had the chest inside it, at least on PC. I forget if it also had it in the manual.

[@possumGFX]

hehe to see this game again. Well its more obvious then ever that it was highly inspired designwise by common sci fi movies and space operas. A lot of vipers and bird of prey ships.

[@LoganHunter82]

Not to mention Y-Wings...

[@robertdeniro7800]

Today, the 27 november 2022, i thank you a lot for this video, so long playing with it for so long time.

[@TolgaBedirVideos]

Still amazing. If I'm not wrong, Epic works with 1 ram. What a game.

[@005AGIMA]

This game had lots of promise but sadly really didn't deliver. Given this came way after Elite, and the simple shooter Kelly-X, and only 1 year before Elite II, it really doesn't hold up. The engine behind it is for more terrestrial flight simulators (F29 Retaliator) and the game suffers as a result. The space combat is still limited to terrestrial flight controls, and everything happens on an extremely limited plane with almost all the action at almost the same "altitude" (if that were a thing in space). The fleets of enemy ships simply fly from side to side of a sky-box and seldom move outside of that pre-set pattern. I didn't "hate" this game on release. I paid good money for it back in the day. But even as a teenager I saw it for what it was. Played it to completion, and sure, I'm keen to revisit this one just because. But it really wasn't that good.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Agreed, and it's really a shame they couldn't have proper space controls and positions. But on the flipside, it has planetary missions, whereas a game like Wing Commander has none!

[@DingKong]

Could have been a great game - but was released before it was finished. The graphics were very impressive and really pushed the Amiga hardware. I remember this game was hyped up to the max - what a disappointment when it finally came out. Was fun for a short while. Nice vid.

[@Khaos969]

I loved this game . Was a proper step up in graphics and playability

[@chefcook747]

with a little bit fantasy, this vector graphic game gave me some fantastic fights, i felt like in star wars or battlestar galactica. vector graphics was great, as it was in elite II. It does not need textures to provide a great game

[@TheRetroShed]

Must dig this out and have a play on it. Such great memories of this and Robocop 3 on the A500

[@matteoboldizzoni9870]

I preferred Starglider II.

[@einokeino303]

@rainstorm1977 Vector graphic games also run at low framerates in a regular A500 so it's amazing how well c64 did when considering how much older it is.

[@carloscastanheiro2933]

I played this back when it came out and now play Elite Dangerous, huge leap for mankind lol.

[@jimmd56]

I remember this. what a game! never clocked it though...

[@maxheinrichliebow]

Loved this.

[@pelimies1818]

@0:40, No worries mate, your sun is going to be a supernova. It is not a white dwarf, nor a massive giant. Epic fail!

[@germandude9212]

Love that game

[@Lowlander-ci7is]

Loved this game 😎

[@DeckerFI]

I think the frame rate is correct for a standard 1200. The game also runs on an 030 just fine, and is slightly smoother planetside when there's lots of enemies and structures around.

[@xxnoxx-xp5bl]

All that build up for such quiet, soulless game-play. The review of the day were tight about Epic being a letdown.

[@Steztheskinhead]

Still got this game. And inferno. Never really knew what I was supposed to be doing to complete the missions though! 😄

[@TheJosep70]

Haha Inferno is a nightmare. I tried to play it recently on PC and it's impossible. I finished Epic on Amiga though.

[@BluWolf2012]

OMG, most nostalgic feeling ever :D and tha music :D

[@ZoiN86]

Pew pew ! - Freaking love amiga \o/

[@sambas9257]

I remember this on dos. You coud enter inside ships of the enemies in space and fight against mechs and people. Is it the same also in amiga?

[@Hellfox777]

LOVED THIS GAME!!!!

[@1stdrive]

The intro music sounds very similar to the first level of Robocop 3 on the Amiga which was also made by Ocean...coincidence?

[@bitspacemusic]

Russ Payne, Allsop and Kenwright were names that kept popping up in most of my Amiga games. I think Payne was involved in Falcon too.

[@garypayne]

Oh yes :)

[@rainstorm1977]

This kind of games was not very good on the Commodore 64, but the AMIGA seems to manage them very well! The music is good too, though some passages sound a bit scary...

[@ziloga]

ahhhh memories.......

[@wozikozi]

A500 with 1MB , i loved , ended 2 times?! 3 discs was IT?

[@DingKong]

I ran this on an Amiga 500+ It was okay, could have been a great game, but it was still unfinished when it was finally released. Anyway, it ran at a passable speed on my 500+ although it did slow down when there lots of ships milling about. Completed it quickly because they gave the cheat code for all weapons and fuel on the inlay card for the game. They did this to rush the game out because some missions were impossible to complete (If I remember correctly) without cheating. So many "If Only's" with this game...

[@einokeino303]

Yeah, it's still a typical problem with games industry to develop games from outside in. It's more important to get demos and hype out for marketing department. Then the release gets rushed and core gameplay is missing or messed up. Promises for included content are left unfulfilled. No man's sky is a good example how this is still true. At least nowadays stuff sometimes get fixed with patches and such, back then you were often stuck with what you bought.

[@DingKong]

Yes true, at least patching can be done these days, but often it's a case of too little too late (Aliens Colonial Marines springs to mind).

[@einokeino303]

Speaking about Aliens, one of our LAN sessions was practically ruined back in the days when the original AVP kept on crashing 5-10min after each start :(

[@MrSoundSeeker]

I still recognise the music :)))

[@einokeino303]

@sammymarlo "F - SELECT FUEL SCOOP (TO COLLECT FUEL PODS ONLY)" I never saw fuel pods in first five missions. "ENTER - (ON KEYPAD) IS CHEATMODE FOR REFUEL AND WEAPONS"

[@Thiesi]

Good luck, A600 owners!

[@thenodfather]

This REALLY reminds me of Robocop 3.

[@exintyim8689]

thenodfather in Ocean's Virtual Worlds, this is packed with Robocop 3 and F-29 RETALIATOR

[@DaveDixon]

This was also done by Digital Image Design for Ocean (along with F-29 Retaliator, TFX and a bunch of others)

[@thenodfather]

That explains it, you can see their style. Cheers Dave.

[@JaydenAlexander312]

I believe it’s the same engine.

[@amigaamigo5307]

Still epic

[@plavins1]

Someone should remake the soundtrack. its so cool!

[@_JC_Denton_]

2:11 design makes me think of the StarCraft Battlecruisers !

[@shanefrance2158]

I loved this game but it had a really bad crash bug if I remember correctly?

[@johnd.1618]

I playd it on an Atari STe. Holst's Mars in the intro is a way better soundtrack option to make you feel ready for the battle. :D

[@zenith2070]

My first space shooter ahhhh

[@einhander7670]

Best amiga shoot game but better in PC.. More cutscenes, more speed and many more...

[@toughguyver6986]

I hated edgy and non-textured vector graphics back then because I never saw them in motion. I only knew games like Hunter from magazines back then, no one of my friends owned 3D-games with vector graphics in the early 90ies. Compared to bitmap 3D-games like wing commander this is like 60 fps. Very smooth gameplay for a Amiga system.

[@BluePittbull666]

i hope they build an amiga 5000 based on the amiga 4000 achitechture soon.

[@lucahitman]

030 detected! eheheh, nice days....

[@MousePotato]

I remember ordering this game in 1991 and the sellers told me it wouldnt be out until 1992. I got fed up waiting for it so cancelled my order.

[@mwaawm]

What's with the awful sound? Where is Holst's Mars?

[@zoesdada8923]

Why's it so short?

[@TheAdam1701]

This was the "Wing Commander" us Amiga kids were wanting for back in 1990. Not as good as WC (WC wasn't ported until 93, and then only for the failing CD32 system.) But at the time I was really impressed!

[@NihilQuest]

I had Wing Commander (1) on Amiga 500, I can't say what year it was though.

[@intrepidis1]

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[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

@@NihilQuestIt came in 1992 on Amiga 500, and was a pretty good port, with better music than PC.

[@NihilQuest]

@@youuuuuuuuuuutube I remember it was bit slow, sluggish. But yeah, I loved it at the time.

[@1979rhino]

this was EPIC

[@pizzaDhut]

Great sound in this game

[@CptSparky]

This vid runs much too fast. I had an A2000 with 030 but as far as I remember it refused to start with the 030. But I think this wouldn't go that fast on a stock A1200 with EC020. The game was great at that time...we didn't even have Wing Commander when this came out ;)

[@alanreijnhoudt9750]

I played this game as a child. And even then I allready noticed how much of the ship designs where ripped from: star trek, battlestar galactica and star wars. Not that I minded at the time. I loved those ships. But only now I see that the ship design of the battleaxe has been ripped by starcraft in return. Good looks need to be stolen I guess.

[@TitanFind]

I have a sneaking feeling this was originally intended to be a licenced BG game but the licence fell through so they tweaked it to become an original IP.

[@jumhed994]

And the picture on the cover of the game packaging was a painting of a Mel Gibson lookalike in a cockpit

[@moskic153]

Retalliator engine :)

[@anchoryotube]

i saw at the end the commander zoltan text.... the zoltán is a hungarian first name lol :)

[@retrogamer33]

Atari ST version has way better music which is sampled from The Planets - Mars The Bringer Of War by Holst. Also the game was never on the Commodore 64, Amiga and ST - not sure about PC.

[@grannygrandma5185]

I guess todays generation can hardly imagine that we actually played this shit back then ;)

[@jerryteacup]

A1200... Does this game run on A500?

[@einokeino303]

Sure you can launch it and get into the game, but it's so slow you probably should consider alternative options if you actually want to play this. One option would to pick up the DOS version and run it in DOSBox.

[@jerryteacup]

I asked as a former A500 owner... what worked and how seemed like a very spotty ordeal. My A500 happened to be one of those pieces of shit that never worked properly... But anyway. I've seen Wing Commander on A500 with 1MB of memory. Then I've seen it on an A500 with 2MB of memory and a harddrive. Massive difference. I guess this is in the same level?

[@einokeino303]

Never played Wing Commander on Amiga myself, but it's probably on same level with hardware requirements. Poor or old A500 just wasn't ment for running such heavy 3D games. Hunter is a nice example of a 3D game that is rather playable on A500, even if it's very slow for modern day standards. Depends a lot how well it was coded and optimized for the hardware.

[@elmariachi5133]

I played this game (like all vector based games) after switching my PAL Amiga to NTSC mode. The 20% speed up always made up for a huge difference, and of course it was much better with a full screen, than with the black border below the game.

[@davidvincent380]

True that we didn't care about shitty framerates at the time... 3d games were a new and exciting thing.

[@stu1002]

I remember this being advertised with massive full page adverts on the back of Amiga Format every month for what seemed like years. It looked amazing....turns out it wasn't!

[@ixgracee]

Frontier was the bee's knees! I spent literally MONTHS playing that awesome game. There's a Kickstarter up for Dave Braben's very own reboot - go support it while you still can! tinyurlDOTcomSLASHb68egac

[@deniss1138]

2020

[@walter0bz]

strange because the amiga was way better at sound than 3d

[@wolframiopulstar1542]

no man skies?

[@einokeino303]

Check out Frontier: Elite II

[@georgor1980]

i liked ST version better (comparing to A500) smoother with better sound

[@Hankkillo]

St better sound than an A500? Yes in other dimensión XDDD

[@georgor1980]

Have you listened to ST version of the particular intro?

[@Hankkillo]

+George Stav yes i did, and the sound is horrible. The st has the same sound chip as the spectrum and msx (AY Yamaha), and it can not play samples with good quality.

[@squirrelofdoom3830]

Amazing how much stuff this game ripped off. Colonial Vipers and BattleStars, "The United Federation of Planets" Klingon Birds of Prey, Draconian fighters from Buck Rogers. B-Wings and A-Wings from Star Wars....

[@fritagogo1]

;-)))

[@grarghov1]

Hehe...the whole game was an obvious Battlestar Galactica ripoff. "may the gods (of Cobol???) be with us" :)))

[@treksterjsc]

I think you meant "Lord's Of Kobol" ...