EPIC MASSIVE BATTLE - 33K MACEDONIANS VS 26K ROMANS - The Battle of Cynoscephalae - Total War

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CINEMATOGRAPHY
Kaisa
EDITING / POST PRODUCTION
Wolfman
MUSIC by
Thomas Bergersen - Dreammaker - Final Frontier
Hans Zimmer - Guinevere
Audiomachine - Motoneuron
GAME
Total War Rome II
by Creative Assembly / SEGA
MODS used for this cinematic:
Best roman formations
Better horses elephants and dogs
Better siege weapons
Hellenistic factions greek expansion
Macedon reborn
More bloody animation
No HDR
Pikemen start battles with pikes
return to glory animations mod
Battle camera mod
Roman historical reskin
Sebidees roman roster - sebidees succesor kingdom roster
Special effects enhancement
Enhanced particles
Rome II:
Flora Hd
Hd armours
Hd helmets
Hd shields
Hd skin hair
Hd textiles
Hd weapons
Wolfmans Savages
TEXT INSERTS
Wikipedia - The Battle of Cynoscephalae
ALL RIGHTS BELONG TO THEIR RESPECTIVE OWNERS
This is a non commercial fan project

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Thank you all so much for your feedback and likes, really it means a lot to me.....:-) Check out my latest cinematic work kzbin.info/www/bejne/epzPkpWoi6mMoa8 A trailer for an Epic Massive Battle - Sparta vs Rome! Enjoy! And dont forget to leave a COMMENT, SUB & a LIKE (ofc just in case you really like it;-)! Greetings Kaisa

[@naktak9227]

Put the text bigger

[@krunoslavkorac1687]

what is the name of music at 10:30?

[@kevinlyons7321]

Chance to think of your self and fellow soldiers tommorrow

[@kevinlyons7321]

But sad war is costly so many men have to die 😥 sad

[@kevinlyons7321]

No place for weekness

[@christianh4723]

I always chuckle when I hear the Roman generals in this game speaking in a British accent.

[@gee8648]

I guess the Celts won afterall!

[@JohnFreedman0]

Lol, you never watch Rome the series?

[@christianh4723]

@@JohnFreedman0 Yeah, it's equally ridiculous there too.

[@ndorobei4391]

Because modern Britons and Anglo saxons always imagine themselves as Romans. In reality, Roman language resemble Hispanic.

[@JohnFreedman0]

@@ndorobei4391 You could just say Italian and Spanish today are very similar, and most languages of everyone bordering the Mediterranean have a Latin foundation.

[@Killzoneguy117]

What I love so much about Cynosephalae is just how much of a turning point it was in the history of the Mediterranean world. On one side, you had the world of Alexander, the Hellenistic world, and everything that represented. The dominance of the Greeks. On the other side, you had the rising power of Rome. A new society, with a new outlook on the world, with ambitions as great as that of Alexander, and with a new updated philosophy to fighting. And these two forces met in an engagement where the possibilities were numerous. If Flamininus had not ordered his left wing to charge, if Nicanor had brought up Phillip's left flank in time to form up, if the Roman tribune had not seen the opening created by his flank's charge. One wonders whether it would be the Macedonian sun and not the Roman eagle which empires would emulate.

[@kingjules8744]

In the midst of battle, the Mediterranean World held it's breath. Lost in the blood soaked plains of Cynosephalae, a history was buried. And with that burial, a new history would be forged.

[@umarmasare]

@@kingjules8744 Amasing

[@SIGE_MUSIC]

This video made me weep a tear. It just makes me think about all the human sacrifice in war over the course of history and you guys brought that to life using a videogame and amazing talent. 10/10

[@rexemilserrano2364]

"Remember its just a game" but icry to this video too i imagine about there family

[@Aminharp1]

I also thought about that , millions of lives and soldiers who had families and maybe something better to do in life ! War was much scarier than it is today !!! Imagine yourself engaging an ennemy army and not knowing from which side an arrow , sword or lance will hit you !!!

[@datusumakwel644]

men born to fight, whenever time it is, thier time our time or in the future they will still keep fighting.

[@legrandduca687]

Never forget those sacrifices when the leftists destroy everything like it's their only goal in life. Those soliders died for their country, to protect or give a better future to their nation, childrens and wifes Today a wife or husband is nothing more than a product that we can throw away when we don't want it anymore and the birthrate in europe is very low. People just don't like thir country anymore. Soon those countrys will fall

[@chiefster11]

LeGrandDuca ! Those soldiers had no choice but to be in the military. Either be a peasant or be in the military and die or have a chance of getting money. They prob gave no shits about their nation mate.

[@TheBookofChoyer]

Wow! You guys truly make the best machinimas on KZbin. Amazing stuff! 🔥

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

Thanks :)

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Thank you!

[@theveryproudmoroccan2834]

@@KaisaMachinimas please do the battle of Thermopylae!

[@theveryproudmoroccan2834]

@@KaisaMachinimas please do the battle of Leurtres(371BC)

[@kippesnikkel5217]

but so do you guys

[@adopotato8820]

This is the best battle cinematic ive ever seen! Awesome work guys you should be very proud.

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Thank you very much Adopotato!

[@kevinlyons7321]

It hurts me to see so many men die on both sides the cost and spoils of war

[@chiamami_cinico]

Teacher: We'll go to Macedonia for the school trip. Girls: What? That's boring... Me & the boys:

[@blockie9706]

Ok, but nowadays macedonians have nothing to do with Alexander, they came 8 centuries after Alexander lived, the ancient macedonians were pelasgians(indo-european) people, nowadays are slavic people.

[@chiamami_cinico]

@@blockie9706 i only reply u because u have the propic of Sosa

[@chiamami_cinico]

@John Finley bruh it was just a joke, chill out

[@2inch_avarage]

I saw this meme so many times that it got annoying

[@chiamami_cinico]

@@2inch_avarage idgaf about u

[@thechaunsey]

I have watched a lot of total war cinematics over the years, and tons of video game machinima in general, and you guys have made the highest quality stuff ive seen. and now this video is on a new level, this is easily the best total war cinematic, if not machinima period that ive ever seen, truly incredible work. it's been a long time since you guys uploaded a full total war cinematic, and it was worth the wait, this was incredible. keep up the good work fellas.

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

Thanks for this great feedback ;) Somehow, our channels do not get much attention.,We took a longer break. I guess it´s no advertising-friendly environment for the yt algorithm anymore or simply not interesting anymore, because TW Rome 2 is now 5 years old. Anyhow: we are happy, some people still come around from time to time and watch our stuff. That´s why we still do this machinima work. Cheers!!

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Wow...thank you very much for this awesome feedback:-)

[@exey4688]

I've never seen such epic sinematic battle,much appreciated!

[@Amadourrr]

Her: hey want to come over Home tonight? Me: sorry i'm laying siege on Carthage today... Her: the senate asks you to claim my koochie under 10 turns. Me: 6:33

[@sisyphos906]

LMAO

[@Amadourrr]

@Kenneth Theo ur gay and ugly thatz why u got no girlfreind

[@iycephoenixx4249]

Would be so hot if a woman actually told me that

[@sgtvoncarstein592]

LMAO

[@tonperefaitdubobsleigh2420]

Jean-Patrick De La Sainte-Bite ton pseudo il me fume

[@user-im6rk1ye5p]

As a Greek the songs and the cinematics touched me. Very nice job

[@Priyo866]

This has to be one of the most well edited cinematic videos of any Total War game ever made.

[@funstuff5584]

Seriously good work! I'm sad it took me until today to see this. Please keep this up forever

[@robertburnett5561]

I was in a battle in Vietnam. For years I told friends that it was just a firefight. It wasn't until a reunion years later that I realized it was a battalion size engagement. Which we almost lost. I only knew my personal space of fighting. The same in most wars for the "grunt".

[@quintus5180]

This is genuinely an incredibly well-made and edited battle cinematic. Congratulations for the hard work!

[@JaredSvB]

This cinematography in this Machinima is top-notch. Very well done, I enjoyed this heaps!

[@Isumu912]

Watching this just made me think about what went through those men's minds at war during those times or even war in general. Bless every fallen soldier in war everyone had loved ones.

[@Андрей-и2ь5э]

Guys, this is just a great work by you and Kaisa ,a real masterpiece, I watch it for the fifth time and every time I cry, I am 38 years old, so strong is the drama and power of what is happening. As a fan of military history and a fan of Total War series, I applaud, no film can so coolly convey the atmosphere of those battles as you, continue to create your masterpieces, there were many battles in ancient history. Hollywood should have learned from you how to evoke emotions in the audience. Of course, many thanks to the creative Assembly, without their creativity, we would not have been able to see IT, and you would not have been able to do IT. I will definitely review it dozens more times, it's just an indescribable emotion.) Good luck and success, with respect to you from Russia)

[@RickGamer123]

I have watched this 1 million times so far.!!!!

[@gdtattoos7516]

Wow !!! I Felt asif I was In Battle with them ...Gave me a chill to my bones . Awesome Work guys !!!

[@colestillwell7064]

This is probably one of the best battles I’ve ever watched! Great Job!

[@adamstokes]

WOW! Good work brother

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Thank you for stopping by ;-)

[@drengr7210]

Probably one of the best put together Total war historical cinematic videos I’ve ever seen. It was very moving and emotional and the music, oh the music, was perfect. The shots and angles made it feel not like a total war video but actually a short movie. It was absolutely amazing

[@hby4966]

Fantastic work, lots of breathtaking shots, I'm impressed. Waiting for new stuff ;D

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

Thanks mate!

[@benc640]

Some of the shots you captured here were just stunning, such a good job. I’d have liked more macro shots in there though to get a feel of the actual battle.

[@aghasurkhailhaiderqazilbas8570]

4:11 this cavalry charge scene is epic!! Gave me goosebumps

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

;)

[@DarkFenix2k5]

You fell into the Hollywood trap. Too many quick cuts, too much focus on close-up shots. It stops you getting an overall feel for what's actually going on, even more so since this is a large battle rather than a one on one fist fight. Look at any movie featuring a battle between large armies, for every set of close up shots showing characters, there'll be a zoomed out shot showing off the scale and overall situation in the battle. This also helps with cutting from place to place, if we just saw a zoomed out shot of a part of the battle, now we know what's happening when the camera goes in close to a character immersed in that. With nothing but a series of close up quick cuts, it makes it look more like a trailer montage, a series of disconnected snippets not trying to show a larger event.

[@koed111]

Fully agree with what you say. I will also criticize the fact that something as simple as the 180 degree rule was broken several times. The rule exists for a reason, and the cavalry charge at 4:15 is a prime example of why you should follow the rule.

[@PlayerOblivion]

Indeed. Everything being close-up shots completely killed perception of scale. Its meant to be a ludicrously large battle with two huge armies, but we don't even see a fraction of those armies. Could be a technical limitation for sure. But yeah, more zoomed out views ala Alexander (2004 movie) would give the viewer a greater look at the sheer scale of the battle, and allow them to follow its progression.

[@jackharan3791]

@@PlayerOblivion As far as i know you can only fit around 10k men a side in Rome 2, which sorta explains why the video focuses on smaller groups of units.

[@lukemalcolmson4599]

@@jackharan3791 the fact he said we worked together could mean there were several armies

[@melvinarfwedson3494]

I thought it was cool...

[@megancurrigan1268]

5:13 That feeling when youre in the wrong war.

[@nubladoparcial6149]

*demonitized*

[@maxgamerz_4459]

That was Not a Hakenkreuz That was the Symbol of the Greek god of sun

[@thelonewanderer6208]

Megan Currigan hahaha nice one, didnt even notice it

[@__mindflayer__]

People aren’t gonna believe that it’s actually a Hindu symbol. Yep that’s right kids, that right there is the sun god symbol a Nazi symbol as it twisted at a different angle.

[@RickGamer123]

This is how to Edit a video ! wonderful. I have watched this so many times.

[@anthonycaranci3944]

Great video Kaisa. The finest machinima that I've ever seen. Surely ranks as the finest made by you & Wolf at this date. Thank you both so very much. I love Rome II, and the videos that you & Wolf make showcase just what great game it is, despite all the negative feedback the game has gotten! Can I post my FB page? I'm an old Roman who's proud of the "positive works" left by my ancestors, not the brutal or tyrannical.

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

thx mate

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Hey Anthony! Thanks for your kind words....:-) Ofc post it

[@JonAtomic]

I think this is your guys best video yet! It’s my favorite!

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

Thank you, Jesus :) Piece of work.

[@JonAtomic]

Wolfman you’re welcome! I’ve been following you guys for a couple years now. I love it

[@alkisvasileiou3954]

have you seen their video "the invasion of Britannia"? I think this was the pinnacle of cinematic videos.

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

@@alkisvasileiou3954 Thanks mate. Vikings was big fun ;) Glad you enjoyed it.

[@666VIKING1]

Epic, truly epic. What a bloodbath. The shot angles were brilliant and professional (like watching an epic movie at the cinema) and the music chosen was spot on for the various scenes, it really added impetus. 10/10 for all concerned in making this movie!!!

[@LeaveMyGun]

Imagine what it was like to fight in battles like this, hacking enemy soldiers with swords and axes, seeing them coming at you literally to cut you apart...pure savagery it must have been so fucked up we dont even realize...

[@CsStoker]

Imagine the PTSD after the campaign season, or what veteran Triarii that came back alive every time had to carry after a lifetime of service.

[@christophcooneyoff]

@@CsStoker Many of the Triarii were full blown alcoholics for this reason. Plutarch wrote about soldiers experiencing night terrors, flashbacks and more when he was documenting the Marian reforms during the lingering years of the Roman Republic (after this battle). Interestingly though, he also reported that this was temporary, and that men returned to their families or to their allocated plot of land and lived out their days in relative peace. One of the ideas for why this might be the case is that this form of combat was direct and immediate. That is, you see a guy, you stab, you slash, you get cut, and when it's over, you return to your camps and you're likely okay. There is true down time. Very few night raids (and you had guards posted for that reason), no air strikes or IEDs or land mines or any of that. Some people think that what these men experienced wasn't PTSD at all, but symptoms of severe stress that passed when they were out of combat, and they think the nature of the combat is the reason for this! Thought you might find it interesting - I've been reading about the Roman Republic / Empire for some years :)

[@mrmontanapilot7247]

@@christophcooneyoff I always wondered this, thanks for the comment!

[@PapaVamp]

This is why i feel religion was created, imagine telling someone they have to be on the front lines of this and when they die it’s all over? Without an idea of an afterlife I doubt people would be so willing to die

[@justinaccount9920]

war is still screwed up, war never changes. Only the style of it, we got guns now.

[@rouch7219]

It's really awesome when you get to actually recreate the numbers of men used in actual battles with realistic graphics.

[@CoffeeFiend1]

Been a total war vet for 19 years and that was incredible. I've always wanted to create cinematics ingame with the editors and camera but it seems so confusing and difficult to get into. Don't suppose you know of any genuinely helpful tutorials or pointer videos dedicated to this? You've earned a subscriber.

[@NikoDeus]

Nice work, really well made. Epic music fits perfecly :D

[@spacetimeanimation]

all the shots are so incredible, well done.

[@peplzwachr]

Holy crap. Whoever made this needs to direct a movie.

[@nidai9840]

Great work! This song is beautiful and atmospheric.

[@RickGamer123]

I feel so much better after this.!!!

[@confusedcaveman5678]

This could be made into a movie. Epic battle.

[@MrKrossix]

After all this time, you still got it...

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Thank you very much Captain;-)

[@frankiemoon8031]

Wow this deserves so many more views, so well done

[@tessgibson4836]

I usually play this game when I'm bored, and it's great

[@sebastianwagener4665]

How can you combine art and video games!? Ask Wolfman & Kaisa 😉

[@Freakboy113]

Well done super epic camera movement and work, awesome!!

[@praetorian0072]

First of all I just want to say, your channel deserves so much more recognition than it already has! Im not an expert at video making but i made some cinematic gameplays and i can only imagine the amount of work you put into this. Best of luck!

[@brucelee-oy4hv]

I'm interested to know why anyone would ever dislike this.

[@alvinchieng109]

Their pc/phone couldnt handle its glory

[@MalayArcher]

Your works have always inspired me :)

[@sutart6705]

this was cool. If Hollywood movies that were based off of ancient eras Greeks and romans or whatever, they should watch your video before making a movie, this felt like it was a movie itself, just sitting and watching there. Also you gotta love how the roman soldier does nothing at the start of the battle but just stabs the injured Macedonian on the floor and not do damage to the others that aren't and are standing xD

[@KaisaMachinimas]

thanks for your kind words friend!

[@sutart6705]

Np!

[@brydenholley1904]

Spectacular! This was truly special. With talent like that, you could be working for a major studio! All the best

[@funkyisotopes147]

That Elephant charge was so juicy. If you able to charge your Elephant as good as that, it's sure win anytime of the day. BTW , this is a good video. Keep it up. Love Rome Total War 2

[@justinaccount9920]

there should be a movie about this

[@spartanis5368]

THIS IS LIKE A FREAKING MOVIE OMG! AMAZING JOB!

[@rameseXII4153]

You can't go wrong with Thomas Bergersen music.

[@KaisaMachinimas]

hes a genius...

[@AmirZarif47]

Exceptionally well made! Best total war and historical fight representation I've seen, and put together.

[@skitgrurdbattlestompah3598]

Well Ik people are gonna complain that this looks more like a movie trailer and it doesn’t really show who had the upper hand in what part of the battle but lucky for me Ik my history and Ik who won so I think this cinematic looks fucking amazing, 10/10 my dude

[@jeremiahthomas2050]

How are these videos made? Computer or a game console? Ii have always dreamed that modern armies still fight like this. To make this truly Epic, armies not use arrows, elephants, catapults. Creators of this is extremely talented and be very proud for it.

[@daniele-k1250]

what an amazing video editing, the music, the footage everything, it deserves a huge like

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Enjoy guys! This is 100% teamwork, make sure to check out Wolfmans channel too and leave him a comment and a like;-) Thank you very much! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZCqiJyVhJacesU

[@Battle_Brother-e3v]

Kaisa hab alle Videos gesehen, finde den ancient sea empires trailer am besten.

[@KaisaMachinimas]

@@Battle_Brother-e3v Danke dir Tribesman;-) jo, ist auch ne coole mod

[@AverageRenaissance1234]

Amazing video. I appreciate your work.

[@nickgiotrading4733]

I don’t think we will be able to see epic videos of three kingdoms like this.

[@jmurray2018]

Great job shame it was ruined by a commercial cutting in during the description of the battle after composing my anger, I rewound started again and enjoyed it immensely. Shame we never get to see accurate battle progression, but all we can go on would be the conflicting - some times inaccurate reports by each side. Masterful video with the tools you have at your disposal well done

[@theunitsquad3144]

Truly epic battle sequences. I don’t know what to say other than a amazing spectical

[@hendrik3332]

Wow, guys. This has to be an incredible amount of work in making. I can imagine how hard it was to get good scenes with Rome II beeing that unstable. Really good cutting, my full respect to you two !! : ) One little thing, maybe there could have been a bit more scenes from above, showing parts of the troops. (but as I said, I can imagine that it is hard to get good shots of a lot of troops on the same battlefield with Rome II beeing Rome II) But aside this, Just. Epic. (Sorry for bad english) 5:45 that ass though😉

[@TheWolfmanMachinima]

Much appreciated Gab-o. Thanks! :)

[@daviddowney1933]

This is absolutely beautiful. You sir just earned another subscriber

[@runyhoangtan]

nice work and very epic battle man, I would like to see more videos of yours

[@rafaelcarvalho3928]

Thank you very much for the video. I enjoyed very much.Congratulations on your work. Also, I would like to suggest something like a view from above, that would show battle tactics and etc. Again Thank you very much and congratulations.

[@longlivelaflame9082]

Ive never had a game movie hit my feeling before but this...

[@lkvideos7181]

You legit made one of the best TW machinimas. Respect dude. *thumbsup*

[@johnnewell726]

Dude you did a great job with this and it looks excellent!

[@cristobalgastoncuba849]

Me gustan estos videos de batallas historicas que haces, saludos desde Necochea, Argentina!

[@XxVIXTAZxX]

Y quién verga ganó que casi no le entendí

[@FattiusBootius]

Incredible work!

[@Western-Inferno]

IT MADE ME TEAR UP I LOVE IT

[@julienrambaud936]

One of the best ever, congrats for the work done 😍

[@nermainmerl3284]

Greeks: Have war with Troy a Greek city and raze it to the ground Trojan refugees: *Founds Rome* Also Greeks: Invade former Trojan-Now Romans several times and lastly with Pyrrhus Romans: Conquers Greece Greeks: Conquer Rome with *Civilization* Rome: *Splits* Greeks: *We're now the Romans all over again* Ottomans: Conquers Greece Greeks: Conquer most of ex-Greece To be continued in the next 2000 years Stay tuned for : Greeks vs Greeks Season 2019 AD

[@wtfmane9779]

STFU

[@Elbargeek]

An empire destroyed by their enemies will rise again but one destroyed inside will fall

[@taskforceknight9336]

Troy is a myth no actual proof it exists. Roman empire was split when foreign barbaric tribes invaded an already Rome hurt by civil wars and economic decline.

[@sotos200012ss]

@@taskforceknight9336 Troy existed.. Don't throw shit when you are not the one that doesn't like history

[@taskforceknight9336]

@@sotos200012ss No credible archaeological evidence it did.Doesn't matter if I like history or not.I clearly know more than you

[@houstonmckenzie935]

This is fantastic video keep up the awesome work you guys when I saw this video. think about how brutal it was that of these warriors in battle is might have been scared and brave . But in the end it was breathtaking thank you guys

[@Kili2807]

At 8:46 it really looks like the two barbarians engage the macedonian guy together... awesome!!

[@skippadadippa2412]

This has to be the best total war cinematic I’ve ever seen

[@facundomagarinoss3401]

Beautiful work bro! Very nice!

[@thewarlockgr6076]

This is brilliant. Nice work would be too little to say for such a view. Well done! I wonder how Cannae would look like in such scale

[@andreitabun2353]

Awesome video and quality! Would love to see more!

[@Patriothouse325]

Holy shit this is dope ,here is a new sub my friend 🙌

[@mbtb682]

Great Job! Keep on the good work!

[@christophcooneyoff]

Truly excellent! I wish it would have given a top down view of the moment the Roman legions took the hill on the right side of the battle and the "unknown Tribune" lead his cavalry force to flank the main engagement, but I really enjoyed watching it all the same. Thanks. Definitely a sub from me!

[@Ghost-pq8td]

5:14 lol look at that green shield

[@hazed_23]

Samnites, an ancient Italian civilization, used to decorate their shields with that symbol.

[@legrandduca687]

Lmaooo

[@PracticalNeuron]

why

[@teachandfunnstuff3127]

who agrees there needs to be a movie about this?

[@4rnnr_as]

Beautiful! Amazing effects and camerawork! Oliver Stone would be proud.

[@samvs1259]

This was amazing, beautiful job!

[@killereaglez8115]

ROMANS:THEY WILL NEVER BREAK OUR LINES CARTHAGE:HOLD MY ELEPHANT

[@ДмитрийЗверев-л1ь]

*Girls locker room:* stupid history, aff...so annoying, i want to go home *Boys locker room:*

[@АнтонШмидт-э2ч]

Не понимаю, почему у такого талантливого человека так мало подписчиков?

[@canecorsomolosser3294]

Best cinematic total war scene, I've ever seen 🙄😬🎥🎶🤐

[@afc3006]

I have no words to wath i saw just......bravo 👏👏

[@KaisaMachinimas]

Thanks a lot AFC 300!!!

[@thekingloficial153]

The most epic video i have seen in my life

[@Clammer999]

Gosh what an epic battle. My hair was standing on ends just watching this. Luv this!

[@eddrh3202]

This is top notch movie quality!! keep making these

[@alkruiddragos1290]

This is amazing, got me thinking when I'm going tô watch a movie like This, because it's an incredible war

[@tpg_momenvanos611]

Its so good,your editing your fighting scenes are just.......fantastic I wish I was able to do this😢😭

[@dakosta7547]

awesome work!