EPIC STARCRAFT 2 FINALS! Rank 1 Terran vs Rank 1 Protoss

StarCraft 2 Tournament 2024 Finals - Clem vs MaxPax - Terran vs Protoss - Wardi Cup - Clem's insane Terran micro battles MaxPax's world class Protoss in this epic StarCraft 2 Finals!
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[@KwanzaaKalus]

I would laugh, but I'm Protoss and... *I have no mouth.*

[@masturtateify]

Mmph phmh mmphmpm

[@nooonanoonung6237]

Haha, jealous of our talking, eating orifices now huh? Racist Protoss scum.

[@jeronp420]

You know, protoss lore wise are plants. But they have nipples..which is odd. Wonder if you can milk a protoss

[@theganondorky7238]

And I must scream

[@Guonks]

@@jeronp420 wtf

[@ttprophet]

"trying to keep up! it's exhausting! ... maybe i'm just getting old." I felt that in my soul, winter. I felt that in my soul.

[@ttprophet]

"how many disruptors are left?! zero! ... that's not very many!"

[@suntzugames]

The jab at Blizzard's working environment was on point ;) Great to watch a fellow Dane. Did not know we had one capable of competing with the big boys.

[@spudastic]

hes honestly more consistent than hero hero takes big risks literally the only reason he doesnt show up in the huge tournaments is because he doesnt do inperson stuff

[@dontlistentoanythingisay]

Clem is just happy to be playing anything other than Rogue's Zerg

[@jacobsmallman5018]

Changling derangement syndrome

[@pleasespammesomemore4436]

time for maxpax's mass hallucinations

[@jasondean37]

How can you not like winter? This guy is humble and just doing his thing

[@concombre27]

That face at 26:50, Winter is so sad about MaxPax wasting this round

[@Alloran]

dang, game one was basically peak pvt. MaxPax feels like the only protoss who can fight with Clem heads up.

[@chrisorgovan4946]

I have had a good day so far, and it just got better. Love your content, keep it up!

[@allhailderpfestor4839]

Just when I thought he was taking a break today he uploads.

[@PraiseYeezus]

I've decided to quit my job, leave my family, and become a preacher on the street corner yelling out to people that PvT is unbalanced.

[@LegionSC2]

let me join you in your crusade, templar

[@somaloll]

only terran beating toss is clem rn tho 🤔

[@keyes8495]

Now you know how it feels when it's tvz. Serral be owning all terrans and toss every matchup.

[@JoseRivera-sm7dz]

THANKS TO MAKE OUR DAY A LITTLE BIT BETTER

[@rumar4u]

Ohh yeah i see MaxPax and leave everything aside and Like the video 👍

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Man that was so sad. Out of a 100 high profile games you see protoss maybe take 1 or 2, its crazy.

[@thdjjfsfh]

Holy Moly, Maxpack and Clem always have such nail-biting games.

[@amourzombie]

AND JIMMY WHAT ARE WE AT

[@miklosdaradics9900]

Thank you. First was a typical Max game with disruptors, storm needed I think.

[@nashnya70]

wow that first game was intense!

[@Jared-st7il]

yes just what I needed

[@JamesV1]

I cannot see how Protoss can stand any chance! It’ll be an exciting watch regardless

[@geuros]

Considering Max won their last two matches... Why do you balance whine before it starts, clearly it's absolutely fine to play as Protoss vs Terran, including Clem (if you're Max)

[@LegionSC2]

​@@geuros"Look! Protoss can win against terran. No issues with balance that means. Forget allllll those other times where protoss didn't even make it to the semis. But NOW balance is restored!"

[@yugonostalgia8961]

@@geuros Yeah you only have to outmanuver your opponents with dozens of finicky, incredible fragile units with hard counters while MMM+Ghosts kills more or less everything cost-effectively

[@something8127]

​@@yugonostalgia8961don't fight the army directly then, destroy their economy with run buys until you get an overwhelming econ advantage

[@An_Average_Arsonist]

​@@geuros protoss is hard countered by a cheesy composition of easy to spam units, max pax does triple the economic damage he takes and it's all meaningless because mules and ghosts. Emp should do waaay less sheild nullification.

[@JAsalter86]

Clem, you make me sick! Nerf Terran!

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

DJ Clem about to drop the base. Srsly dude how? 🤣

[@Eastman-Stuff]

Maan, Winter can make a video about a dusty old vacuum and it would be epic... haha, i can hear him talking to it in my head right now !!

[@lucasamin9405]

Thanks winter you're the best

[@doandaihiep8515]

How do protoss make love - I've always wondered ..

[@GabrielSantosStandardCombo]

"Widow-mine" presumes the Protoss get married. But what of the Zerg weddings???

[@colinfraser7150]

Just mentally screaming at clem "CADUCEUS REACTOR"

[@MathieuLeclerc-od2lf]

Thanks!

[@ypsro]

7:06 deathstalker recall 😅😅😅

[@LifeIsBestLivedLeisurely]

Dj Clem about to drop the bass (base) lol

[@marcsaiz1045]

to know if I see this before you can put on the description: mach played x day, ty.

[@MrOceansEleven]

Im here for another game of the year and the classy intro

[@jeremyadamson9618]

Proud to be one of the likes that took us past 1445 likes! Let's go. We need to make a bingo card for all the things Winter says. "eviscerated", "a brenda blackout", what else?

[@davinfreeman1]

There's so many finals

[@firebatzaacvang3340]

The new terran expansion defense is now 2 libs and a turret, Planetary is no longer needed

[@a_pleasant_lie7051]

That marine at the beginning stressing me out

[@willnash7907]

I wish there was some way for the video length to not spoil the outcome from like one third of the way into the video.

[@neuralgiant]

Until I see Maxpax’s face I’m just gonna assume he’s Alpha Star.

[@nibs1989]

I think Medivacs need a slight nerf. If their repair rate gets nerfed a little bit they won't be able to heal as fast. MMM is really imba. You just make a bio ball with ghosts with a bit of micro, and gg. I am amazed, though, that MaxPax never used storm. Some say storm sucks in pvt, but in certain engagements, if you cannot hit a disruptor shot, maybe it's better to hit an instant storm and get damage and increase your dps? It helps deplete the medivac energy faster. With pvt though, in those engagements, you need to be able to put down forcefields, get off storm or feedback, and get off disruptor shots at the same time. The difficulty is on the amount of micro needed for spell-casting for Protoss, and sentries don't have a very long range. Terran seems to have less of an APM cost for micro in PVT in bio engagements, that is for spell casting. Casting is harder than splitting because you have to cycle between control groups quickly and then get to targeting and blink micro. The protoss needs 3 control groups if you want to do disruptors with storm and use a warp prism to evade emps. The engagement is more taxing on the Protoss than the Terran just to deal with MMM. Sure, the Terran has a lot of micro requirements, but from the standpoint of having to use constant spell casters instead of just 1 kind, like in Terran bio balls, it adds up. Protoss Rant: EMP seems a bit op sometimes too. Perhaps make emp and storm more similar, or at least buff storm to do damage to energy as well. Maybe EMP shouldn't eliminate all shields and energy, it could perhaps do damage to shields a bit more like storm, take a percentage, or wear down the shields. Right now it's a storm and feedback in one shot, half the micro. On another note, battlecruisers need to bring the energy bar back. Teleporting should cost energy, and so should the Yamato. They shouldn't have eliminated the energy bar on it to begin with, they should have just buffed it by requiring less energy per action, and maybe increasing energy regen by a bit. If they won't do that, then the teleport regen time needs a nerf. If disruptor shots were a bit faster, had slightly farther range, and had slightly lower splash, they'd be more fun. Well, that's my wooden nickel, for what it isn't worth.

[@ninjadejedi]

A bit of Micro ?

[@OnigoroshiZero]

Terran, the only race that can win after being down almost the entire game...

[@dpend]

I don’t even need to watch the video to know that Terran wins the series 😂

[@blooddumpster3427]

I bet we could pressure Microsoft into giving us a Sc1 remastered style update for 2

[@VenturiLife]

11:24 Box art

[@xiejin6993]

The storm not to use is the key cause of lose game

[@badbadnotgood6887]

Curious how/why maxpax didn't have more advantage in game 1 after rebuking clems entire widow mine drop, trading better in the initial fight, and denying stem. Two siege tanks just completely shut him out 😶‍🌫️

[@furse2190]

Clem, the new age Starcraft villain. At least, to me as a Zerg main. Love and hate that dude.

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Bit late, but Thank You

[@Fengosk]

How many ruptors are left? Zero, that is not that many!!

[@gustavomolinari7522]

Hey, there, guys!

[@trobertw]

Protoss players, i ask you: are you better off today than you were 4 balance patches ago!?

[@stezee96]

MaxPax is that young?? Wow

[@petartrifonov8823]

Distuptors need to get speed of shots incresed by 30%. Marines should not be able to outrun them.

[@NaegraGHQ]

Terran won, i am really surprised 😂

[@ttprophet]

ok but when does jimmy sleep? whatever you pay him, it's not enough.

[@ZedBeiFeng]

Storm is broken but EMP basically cutting Protoss hp in half is imbalanced as someone who doesn’t play StarCraft2 I just see absolutely no reason to play Protoss over Marine or Zerg.

[@Phobos2009USWest]

If the terran was patched to a 30% win rate in both matchups it'd still be too goddamn high. On second thought, nerf terran mirror matchups too. I dont care how.

[@balysatm379]

Only just realized I never actually subscribed... Fixed that Macro mistake promptly

[@zacc6802]

go ahead and like the video

[@famouscharactersplay4298]

Day 79, and we still ask for our Brenda T shirts. "Get off my CREEP!"

[@Mrnousak]

is it 30fps/lagging? or am i trippin

[@Dobro_KogOtOk]

The Protoss has not won the balance has not been broken))

[@DaviDTiago2024]

Terran O.P

[@bigtruck1838]

I'm here yet again to make my day... a little... bit.... better..... that being said brenda is the better caster

[@hivetech4903]

MaxPax sux at late game 😂Other Protoss can win with by adding in Tempests & Prism Templar but he is so stubborn lol.

[@oldfrend]

MP has great blink micro but the rest of his game is strewn with errors. i'm not sure it's humanly possible to be better, but clem was beatable here if maxpax didn't make so many mistakes.

[@kudohlol9379]

why are these insanely good players so bad at disurptor use. They need to make a threat with their constant dps army, THEN shoot the balls over the army that HAS to fight them. Why is this impossible for protoss to make sense of. They do Fade away balls or they shoot the balls and the army is doing nothing. Both Do not work.

[@LegionSC2]

Why don't you try controlling your units while selecting disruptors, firing and controlling their novas, selecting and blinking stallers under vikings and target fire, choose prism, drop hts and storm and kite your collsosus so vikings dont rip them to shreds. While your army, which moves at different speeds, will keep getting in the way of your own novas Also, if you don't fire novas from near max range, terrans just stim and kill all disruptors before they even finish the nova. This is so common that forget pro games, this happens even at 4.2-4.5k mmr

[@hivetech4903]

@@LegionSC2 I've never made a Disruptor or needed to put HT in a prism at 4.5KMMR 😂You shouldn't be doing any of those things if you want to reach top Masters and even then balance means literally nothing.

[@kudohlol9379]

@@LegionSC2 me personally CANT do it. They can. Max pax DEFINITELY can, but its the process of how they are thinking. THEY CAN. Controlling a group of units and a caster for them is NOT difficult.

[@kudohlol9379]

@@LegionSC2 they essentially use the Disruptor like a extremely bad skill shot user in league of legends, they are shooting them at max range, when there is absolutely no threat, and no one good is gonna get hit by them.

[@Mainlychesscontent]

Mutas op

[@yugonostalgia8961]

Clem is my least favorite player to watch hands down, all the worst of starcraft concentrated into one frenchman... still have to say that game 1 was an incredible knifes edge you barely see, definitely worth casting!

[@dpend]

Only because MaxPax outplayed Clem was it even close, but as soon as he made one small error it’s GG, because Terran. 😅

[@somaloll]

​@@dpendclem is way better than maxpax

[@arthuryong4968]

​@@dpendwhat error?

[@yugonostalgia8961]

@@somaloll It's extremely easy to be 'better' when you have ghosts, widow 'mines', and medivacs... incomparable

[@somaloll]

@@yugonostalgia8961 it is not extremely easy, if it was extremely easy there wouldnt have only been 1 terran in the semis for ewc. and if it was extremely easy than gm wouldn't be dominated by protoss. Just because clem is better than his opponent doesn't immediately make terran as a whole overpowered because there aren't really any other terrans that have been performing well this year outside of clem

[@PJOZeus]

bit late for an upload innit winter?

[@XtremBizZzar]

The colors look very oversaturated.

[@DaddyC702]

How do Z\P players even stand a chance, Terrans have at least 2 types of units for every purpose, and the main Z\P units are trash in comparison. Did I mention how crappy disruptors are? I think in all the games I've ever watched the disruptors have hit 1-5% of their shots, meanwhile Terran units hit at 99.7% ! At this rate I don't enjoy watching games featuring Terrans, hell even T vs T games are boring and predictable...

[@LegionSC2]

All of their units are always either the cheapest or better or both than the z or p counterparts. Marauders DESTROY roaches and stalkers. Thors have more range, 3 different attack modes vs ultras' melee and immortals measly 6 range and garbage dps vs non-armoured Ghosts vs viper/ht is also obvious Marine vs ling/zealot is also obvious Even the siege tank in tank mode, that gets siege mode for free mind you, has equal range of an unupgraded colossus Terran has access to splash and cloaked units from the 3 min mark (hellion mine) Libs dont require tech labs despite being literally a siege tank and having the highest dps in the entire game Battlescuiser have more hp than carrier and motherships Also here is the best part. I really want you to think about this: there are no terran units that are bad at killing probes. Probes specifically. Ghosts with emp 1 shot them. Landed vikings incinerate them. So do bcs, ravens, mines, marines and everything else in between Terran is beyond over powered

[@somaloll]

How is clems good army control somehow a reason why the god awful unit known as the disruptor should be good? People definitely want a unit that sends out an orb from across the entire screen that takes 2 apm to use and kills 30 supply in one shot to be good. And we definitely havent seen protoss's try and abuse disruptors and create the crappiest games of sc2 ever over the last couple of years already by spamming them. disruptors should be useless their design is awful they shouldnt even be in the game, you dont look for two seconds and you lose 7 ghosts in one disruptor ball. And clem is the only player winning tvp this consistently and with micro this good so, maybe instead of complaining about good gameplay dont watch clem games if you just want to watch a cesspool of bad strategies, abusive blink stalker micro and boring disruptor shots getting way more value than they ever deserve to get

[@ninjadejedi]

@@LegionSC2 Zealot/Zergling cream Marauders. Thor much slower than Ultralisk, and Immortal, also much less survival - Ultralisk has more armor, and Immortal has barrier - Cause Viper could not abduct ghost, and HT could not feedback ghost at the same range as EMP. A marine need 2 supplies of Medivac - 3 supplies - to win against 1 supply of Zergling and 1 supply of Zealot. A single Marine will lose against 2 zergling and 1 Zealot. Cause Lukers, an INVISIBLE sieging unit with Aoe and can Siege and un-siege in 2 sec, is really fair. Or Disruptor can one shot 30 supplies in one shot is really fair Ah, Hellion the most "important" unit in Terran Army right ? not the weakest, unit that need 3 shot to kill a probe, lose against anything but probe. Have you seen widow mines kill more than one probe recently ? I don't Yes, because it is the only SINGLE TARGET sieging unit. Because Battle cruiser cost more than Carrier, more usless than Carrier and Mothership.

[@hia5235]

Clem isnt playing that well game 1: barely matters because terran is imba

[@stephanedurette5785]

I love you but hearing "Making those units go the extra kilometer" hurt my soul.

[@slipline4threcon688]

No kore imaginary friend talk please

[@nukedabeans6374]

MMM , yawn