Napoleon's Marshals: Bessières, Macdonald, Masséna.

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@EpichistoryTv
@EpichistoryTv 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy the latest installment of the Napoleon's Marshals series! Thank youto series consultant Lt.Col. Rémy Porte, whose blog on military history (in French) you can read here: guerres-et-conflits.over-blog.com/ And finally, no need to write in to say that Napoleon actually hated the Marseillaise! I am aware, but it's used here as a light-hearted nod to iconic French cultural imagery and music. Enjoy the video!
@emmanuelfernandez04
@emmanuelfernandez04 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@mdmiloy5897
@mdmiloy5897 3 жыл бұрын
OTTOMAN HABSBURG WARS PLEASE
@mdmiloy5897
@mdmiloy5897 3 жыл бұрын
I ENGOYED THIS VIDIO. THANK YOU
@mdmiloy5897
@mdmiloy5897 3 жыл бұрын
Please reply me
@knightofhonour2937
@knightofhonour2937 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@V4Ng0
@V4Ng0 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleon to Macdonald: " I did not know you well.... I was prejudiced against you. I have done so much for so many others who have abandoned me.... and you..... who owe me nothing have remained faithful. I appreciate your loyalty too late" This hit me so hard ;_;
@nixon9346
@nixon9346 3 жыл бұрын
Yea and the music...🤧
@Conorp77
@Conorp77 3 жыл бұрын
And then Macdonald totally turned on him in 1815.
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@toochangz
@toochangz 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleon then gave MacDonald the sword of Murad Bey, one of the prized heirlooms from the Egyptian campaign.
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 3 жыл бұрын
@@toochangz ;)
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Mighty Macdonald: His Outspokeness was once having dinner with King Louis XVIII and the Comte de Artois, Louis' ultra-royal brother who later became Charles X. Louis asked Mac what he thought of the Revolution. To the shock of all Mac responded that he loved the Revolution. He loved the Revolution as "How else would someone like me, not born into a noble family, have the great privilege of having dinner with his majesty?" Louis chuckled and said something to the effect of "There, you see! Even the worst circumstances can have positives."
@freewal
@freewal 3 жыл бұрын
Louis XVIII was much more moderate than his brother the Conte d’Artois, the future Charles X. He understood that France had change a lot in 25 years.
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 3 жыл бұрын
@@freewal Very true. Artois was, as Louis put it, "More Royalist than the King." Louis XVIII was not a terrible a king, and in his own way, perhaps underrated in his understanding of how to transition France from the Empire to a more settled state of affairs. His instinct was not to be blood thirsty. It is most unfortunate for everyone that his brother did not learn from his brother's example.
@BountyFlamor
@BountyFlamor 2 жыл бұрын
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 The guy was smart enough to not take the progressive policies of the Revolution and Napoleon away, so people let him be.
@theodorosgkountoulidis2385
@theodorosgkountoulidis2385 3 жыл бұрын
Liking before even watching. This is how strong the Epic History TV brand name is!
@arlohurst1595
@arlohurst1595 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't even 3 seconds after I clicked the video.
@mbathroom1
@mbathroom1 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@Baamthe25th
@Baamthe25th 3 жыл бұрын
Brand so strong I'm rewatching the previous videos to refresh my memory. By the time this series is done, I will hav ewtached every video multiples times
@darcboy1398
@darcboy1398 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@mingming919
@mingming919 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, to hear the brass at the beginning once more...
@michaelsimarmata5880
@michaelsimarmata5880 3 жыл бұрын
Gave me goosebumps every time
@jimmyeastmond2719
@jimmyeastmond2719 3 жыл бұрын
Egmont Overture by Ludwig van Beethoven
@Danterobo
@Danterobo 3 жыл бұрын
Good for the era. Personally I love overture to Don Giovanni
@loyaltyisroyalty5616
@loyaltyisroyalty5616 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the first instrument is? I have 0 musical knowledge lol
@af17317596
@af17317596 3 жыл бұрын
@@loyaltyisroyalty5616 don't quote me on it but if I were to guess, a French horn maybe?
@ChristianThePagan
@ChristianThePagan 3 жыл бұрын
“His Outspokenness” ... now that’s a cool title.
@nacionaldelacapital
@nacionaldelacapital 3 жыл бұрын
McDonald was born in 17 November 1765 tw.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Jacques+Mac+Donald&fr=yfp-search-sb Just like any Scorpio person will do. And may get into trouble. LOL
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but not for me.
@NaullyNicolas
@NaullyNicolas 3 жыл бұрын
"I have spoken"
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda sounds like one of the things Han would call Leia before she told him to stop, and he started calling her by her first name.
@andershoel78
@andershoel78 3 жыл бұрын
Så if others persons you dont know, do what you say, you are a King. Either you are a King, or they just want to send you to a mental hospital for disication.
@TheFiresloth
@TheFiresloth 3 жыл бұрын
Davout : "The Iron Marshal" Massena : "The Darling Child of Victory" Lannes : "The French Achilles"; "Roland" Ney : "The Red Lion"; "The Bravest of the Braves" Soult : "The Duke of Damnation" Murat : "King Franconi" Suchet : "El Hombre Justo" St-Cyr : The Man of Ice", "The Owl" Marmont : "Marshal Judas"; "Proud-Ass" Bernadotte : "Fair-Legs" Augereau : "The Proud Bandit" MacDonald : "Alceste" (a Moliere character known for his blunt honesty) Victor : "The Drummer"; "Pretty-Sun" Mortier : "The Ram" Oudinot : "Thirty-five Wounds Marshal";"The Colander" Moncey : "Phebus"; "The Model of All Virtues" Poniatowski : "The Polish Bayard" The fact that they almost all went down with a cool nickname is pretty awesome.
@terry7907
@terry7907 3 жыл бұрын
Ney should have the Bravest of the Brave on your list.
@veknus
@veknus 3 жыл бұрын
You missed out Lefebvfre
@marc-antoinerave2572
@marc-antoinerave2572 3 жыл бұрын
Bernadotte should have been renamed “the filthy traitor”
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
@@veknus what did they call him?
@TheFiresloth
@TheFiresloth 3 жыл бұрын
@@terry7907 True, added.
@megasalexandros714
@megasalexandros714 3 жыл бұрын
"If Bessieres can be a top 10 Napoleon's marshal then anyone can be" General Marmont, december 2nd 1804
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 3 жыл бұрын
"Lol you lost to an Irishman with a hooky nose" Marshal Bessieres, 22 July 1812
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 3 жыл бұрын
When a devout catholic is more loyal to Napoleon than you, it is not a good thing
@Gabriel-se9el
@Gabriel-se9el 3 жыл бұрын
2th lol
@bassgeeker1578
@bassgeeker1578 3 жыл бұрын
Very funny from Marmont when you know that his name was turned in French as an ironic synonym for disloyalty after his switching during the 1814 French campaign where he was in charge to cover and defend Paris, but let the allied took it... Marmont and Grouchy were the two First empire marshals to live for a while after the end of the empire with a poor unreliable reputation... Marmont, also Duke of Raguse, let the verb “Raguser” in French as synonym of treason and disloyalty.
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassgeeker1578 The difference between Marmont and Grouchy was who the first intentionally did harm by treason a couple of times, while Grouchy misunderstood the strategic situation
@CosmicFaust
@CosmicFaust 3 жыл бұрын
“I’ve been looking forward to this.” - Count Dooku
@d.s.archer5903
@d.s.archer5903 3 жыл бұрын
6:56 the reason Lannes and Bessieres did not come to blows was because Massena intervened, ordered them to stop, and to part company. As others have noted, it says much for Massena’s authority that he was able to impose his will on Lannes.
@Warui88
@Warui88 3 жыл бұрын
You know you're intimidating when you can make Lannes heel.
@AL4N22_PELIT
@AL4N22_PELIT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Warui88 honestly I always saw bessieres as cold and dull. He certainly couldn't intimidate lannes.
@avatar2350
@avatar2350 3 жыл бұрын
I must admit, at 17:11 i felt very sad. The dispear on Napoleon's portrait, the music and the brilliant narration... A true masterpice that honors the memory of past generations
@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730
@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730 3 жыл бұрын
And of course, They would never meet or fight alongside each other again.
@DirtyBird28
@DirtyBird28 3 жыл бұрын
McDonald...Outspoken, honest, loyal, blunt, and good in a hard fight! Like a true Scotsman.
@alister2228
@alister2228 3 жыл бұрын
Potentiality, illigetimate though... No recognised by Neil Maceachan on his birth certificate. Macdonald was however raised by the Scottish community in the Sancerre region.
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@toochangz
@toochangz 3 жыл бұрын
He also banged Napoleon's sister (one of the reasons napoleon didn't like him)
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 3 жыл бұрын
@@toochangz ;=)
@alister2228
@alister2228 3 жыл бұрын
@@toochangz is that the three days story?
@phigu198
@phigu198 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Massena. He was clearly supremely capapble, but Napoleon overused him and gave him no time to recover before throwing him into Spain.
@john6941
@john6941 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention shooting him in the face.
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
He was Exhausted,old and sick poor guy probably just wanted to retire
@0giwan
@0giwan 3 жыл бұрын
He could probably be played by Harrison Ford....
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
@@0giwan wdym?
@AJKecsk
@AJKecsk 3 жыл бұрын
Literally shot in the face by Napoleon
@seanpoore2428
@seanpoore2428 3 жыл бұрын
"There are fourteen of us!" I want an HBO historical dramatic comedy about these guys.
@jaida728
@jaida728 3 жыл бұрын
I am in complete agreement, I would really really love to see that.
@CleversonSantos
@CleversonSantos 3 жыл бұрын
Me too mate!!! Imagine how great it would be!!!
@Warui88
@Warui88 3 жыл бұрын
The Marshals would totally make for a great show. Hijinks everywhere.
@wowyourereallyreadingthis
@wowyourereallyreadingthis 3 жыл бұрын
•M•A•R•S•H•A•L•S•
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
What did he meant by that?
@fangexploring
@fangexploring 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like Massena and Macdonald combined would have made the perfect Marshal. They both sound fascinating characters, this has definitely made me want to learn more about them. These videos are so good I keep watching them again and again, thank you!
@NDR-hn3ue
@NDR-hn3ue 3 жыл бұрын
*Only THREE Marshals for this episode . And there are ALREADY nearly 35 THOUSAND VIEWS !!! People LOVE this series.*
@davidhoran7116
@davidhoran7116 3 жыл бұрын
These videos go to show that even though Napoleon was a strategic wizard, his successes were far from his alone.
@mercenery1232
@mercenery1232 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah many great leaders are those that know how and who to delegate work to the right men
@lomax343
@lomax343 3 жыл бұрын
Neither were his failures.
@PipoZePoulp
@PipoZePoulp 3 жыл бұрын
By the time of the Napoleonic Wars, the army and military cadres had a decade of experience, owning to the civil war and Wars of the Revolution. It took 15 years for the rest of European Powers to catch up.
@RexGalilae
@RexGalilae 3 жыл бұрын
@@PipoZePoulp This is a very one-sided view. The French didn't gain experience fighting trees. They mainly fought the Austrians and the Russians during this era who had the same opportunity to gain this amount of pedigree. It's often convenient to retroactively attach merit to circumstance but the inescapable truth lay in a few talented men France could produce that were influential in creating a new style of warfare that lasted for about about a century
@fredbarker9201
@fredbarker9201 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleon, riding on the wave of the revolution, promoted meritocracy in the army. That’s why they were so good. The rest of Europe’s army’s were littered with nobles only their on account of their birth.
@anantbisht6355
@anantbisht6355 3 жыл бұрын
Massena was shot in the face Oudinot: _Pathetic_
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
Oudinot was wounded mostly in his bodies, Not his His face although he did has scars on the face
@laurentparodi5261
@laurentparodi5261 3 жыл бұрын
@@haveagreatday6822 Oudinot was shot in the head in 1794
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurentparodi5261 ok i didnt know that
@sjsbviufvibwvuspi
@sjsbviufvibwvuspi 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurentparodi5261 a certain someone else was also shot in the head but still died
@metallica27796
@metallica27796 3 жыл бұрын
Murat was shot in the jaw
@dakapo8985
@dakapo8985 3 жыл бұрын
"There is 14 of us" what a champ.
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
What does that mean?
@braxtonfriday8713
@braxtonfriday8713 3 жыл бұрын
@@haveagreatday6822 he meant "your congratulations mean nothing to me, there are so many others with this 'honor'"
@dakapo8985
@dakapo8985 3 жыл бұрын
@@haveagreatday6822 That he had the mind of a champion.
@rick7424
@rick7424 3 ай бұрын
That is ego which got in the way of his potential.
@rick7424
@rick7424 3 ай бұрын
18:22 MacDonald was praises because he was not vain or ambitious/opportunistic.
@HunterKiller762
@HunterKiller762 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wish there'd be an HBO series about the lives of these men. Each are unique and quiet interesting in there own ways.
@dumbcow7722GD
@dumbcow7722GD 3 жыл бұрын
Is anyone not gonna talk about how epic the music is when Massena showed up, fitting for a man like him.
@loyaltyisroyalty5616
@loyaltyisroyalty5616 3 жыл бұрын
iPhone notification: Napoleon’s Marshals part 4 Me to my family: “Everyone needs to leave me the hell alone for the next 30mins!...plz n thnx”
@ralexmarquez
@ralexmarquez 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! it's the Epic History effect.
@lukeparslow6780
@lukeparslow6780 3 жыл бұрын
I see you're a man of culture as well
@johnnyjoestar5193
@johnnyjoestar5193 3 жыл бұрын
I swear everytime I watch a new EHTV video I always get interrupted😭
@jcg7990
@jcg7990 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😁😂 yes !
@benjaminvidstein6029
@benjaminvidstein6029 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at Massena being at 6. I had always thought he was one of his best commanders, but now I think otherwise. Great video : ) My prediction for the next 6 are: 6. Suchet 5. Berthier 4. Ney 3. Lannes 2. Soult 1. Davout
@EpichistoryTv
@EpichistoryTv 3 жыл бұрын
I think Masséna probably was one of the best - when he was completely fit. But after 1810 I think he just wanted a quiet life with his money and his mistress! If the rankings were done another way - every Marshals at the peak of his abilities - I think he'd probably be top 5. Your predictions are VERY close but I will say no more.
@Sam-AZ
@Sam-AZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpichistoryTv Ney is no.1
@janvokurka2401
@janvokurka2401 3 жыл бұрын
I think Ney won't be at the fourth place Suchet will surpass him imo. But otherwise I agree with the ranking. Maybe Lannes changes with Soult in this series though.
@sephiroth5815
@sephiroth5815 3 жыл бұрын
Why Soult outranked Lannes ? Lannes is far better than Soult. Maybe more than Davout
@Thomas194.
@Thomas194. 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpichistoryTv I think Marshal Lannes will be number 1 beacause of excellent commanding skills specially with his loyal grenadiers among the troops, one of Napoleon's closest friend, fully trusted. Also, the Grande Armee loved this brillant commander.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleon Souvenirs might as well supply my officer corps
@theyoungbonaparte3739
@theyoungbonaparte3739 3 жыл бұрын
For my campaign aganst Italy
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560 3 жыл бұрын
@@theyoungbonaparte3739 Oh Boney!
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560 3 жыл бұрын
@trueblueprussian 23 you are late Prussia...
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560 3 жыл бұрын
@trueblueprussian 23 being late is...rather bemusing in the history of warfare you know...
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560 3 жыл бұрын
@trueblueprussian 23 damn you prussians! :)
@b.chaline4394
@b.chaline4394 3 жыл бұрын
Along with Lannes, MacDonald is probably the most likeable of Napoleon's marshals. A loyal and chivalrous man to the end, more interested in serving his country than accumulating wealth ; a rare feat among his peers!
@lord_napoli
@lord_napoli 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my family have been waiting for this for literally months!
@doctortabasco
@doctortabasco 3 жыл бұрын
And we have to keep waiting!!
@landfish8039
@landfish8039 3 жыл бұрын
This series just makes my day
@RaduOsraldescu
@RaduOsraldescu 3 жыл бұрын
You're not alone
@sirfatty5068
@sirfatty5068 3 жыл бұрын
Now just do this for Alexander's Companions and my life is complete.
@VladissimoTheMocker
@VladissimoTheMocker 3 жыл бұрын
Actually all of my "yes" goes to this
@francogutierrez1793
@francogutierrez1793 3 жыл бұрын
And Caesar's legates too
@anthonykatonlopez8061
@anthonykatonlopez8061 3 жыл бұрын
I concur
@btg7760
@btg7760 3 жыл бұрын
No he should continue the Napoleonic series
@ChanahsCreativeEdits
@ChanahsCreativeEdits 3 жыл бұрын
@@francogutierrez1793 Roman = Greek wannabes 🙄
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! In before anyone else! Great work as usual! Outstanding! Bessieres was underserved. He was a solid general, also loyal and stalwart. And boy did he and Lannes hate one another. In Marbot's memoirs he relates the story of where Lannes, who Marbot was ADC for, during a battle ordered him to take a message to Bessieres to attack. Lannes told Marbot to give Bessieres the order exactly as Lannes had said it, which was gravely insulting. Marbot did this and Bessieres was incensed and cried out that he'd show that popinjay what courage means. Besseries than launched him the attack with great vigor. Lannes later explained to Marbot that insulting Bessieres was the best way to ensure that he launched the attack as violently as possible to disjoint the enemy.
@EpichistoryTv
@EpichistoryTv 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes. And as far as I know, it was all because Lannes blew the budget for the Consular Guard, and Murat and Bessières told on him, and got him sacked!
@onetwothreefourfive12345
@onetwothreefourfive12345 3 жыл бұрын
thats a hilarious detail thanks for sharing haha
@onetwothreefourfive12345
@onetwothreefourfive12345 3 жыл бұрын
pretty clever
@МаксРогозин-е1ю
@МаксРогозин-е1ю 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpichistoryTv only suchet deserves to be number 1
@b.chaline4394
@b.chaline4394 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend the novel "The Battle" by French author Patrick Rambaud - it's a tale of the Battle of Essling, from the point of view of French protagonists, whether they be common soldiers or high ranking officers. It is one of the very best Napoleonic fictions even written, and Masséna is a standout in it. There is one scene in particular that is totally awesome, in which Masséna addresses his aide, the Marquess of Sainte-Croix : "And you, my little Sainte-Croix, with your conspicuously aristocratic name, who do you believe in?" "I believe only in you, Your Grace." "Ah! Good answer."
@stevec7770
@stevec7770 3 жыл бұрын
Good book
@canisrah
@canisrah 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible series. Absolute masterpiece. Engaging, and deeply authentic.
@jeanlannes8710
@jeanlannes8710 3 жыл бұрын
I am addicted to these! Seeing an analysis like this of Roman generals would be fantastic.
@dogestranding5047
@dogestranding5047 3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome that you were able to get a former French Chief Historian to help you on this video. Epic History TV is easily one of the greatest KZbin channels out there. Marshal MacDonald seemed like a genuinely good and well-intentioned man. I didn't know much about him before other than seeing his name and thinking it was out of place for someone in the French army, but he's one of my favorite Marshals now.
@Kidvirus44
@Kidvirus44 3 жыл бұрын
out of place ? The oldest alliance in the entire world, scott and french. with irland too, not so old but still... Jeanne d'arc entered in orlean with musicians/soldiers playing the march of robert bruce (la marche des soldats de bruce < french name). Thats a very old story between our people
@FranceIsPropertyofEngland
@FranceIsPropertyofEngland 3 ай бұрын
​@@Kidvirus44The oldest alliance goes to England and Portugal. It still stands to this day and started in medieval times. The auld alliance between Scotland and France ended with the acts of union. It's not there anymore.
@omarbradley6807
@omarbradley6807 3 жыл бұрын
MacDonald was too loyal to France, he avoided politics at all, however being an inmediate subordinate of Dummoriez was a bad step in his luck, and then he was an inmediate subordinate of Moreau, who was another bad step in his luck
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
He is literally the dear child of badluck
@joshuagrover795
@joshuagrover795 Жыл бұрын
But at least MacDonald "Walk the walk" as much as "Talked the talk" by rigorously defending former colleagues like Marshal Davout and ensuring most of the time the ex Marshals and soldiers were treated well and fair.
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 3 жыл бұрын
Wellington also said about Masséna that he was the fiercest opponent he ever fought aside from Napoleon himself.
@EK-gr9gd
@EK-gr9gd 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Old Nosey has been generous to his adversaries always.
@TheWorldisaLIE2
@TheWorldisaLIE2 3 жыл бұрын
@@EK-gr9gd yeah it makes himself and record look better if he talks up his opponents lol
@etoiledesneiges-d
@etoiledesneiges-d 3 жыл бұрын
Wellington didn't fight that much.apart from the peninsular campaign. A bright commander, but except in Waterloo, he only fought isolated french corps/marshals.
@EK-gr9gd
@EK-gr9gd 3 жыл бұрын
@@etoiledesneiges-d The Duke did most of his campaigns, without a staff genius like Berthier. George Kennedy got the commissary under control. But beside that Wellington was much of a one man enterprise.
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 3 жыл бұрын
Considering Messena crushed Naples almost singlehandedly, it's easy to see why he might say that. On a related note, I've always wondered how different history might have been if Carlos IV or his son were not overthrown in Spain and they split Portugal with Napoleon as planned. Would the British still have pushed the allied Spanish-French army out in the end?
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 3 жыл бұрын
What can one say about Massena? He was Massena. Even if he always brought his mistresses on campaign.
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 3 жыл бұрын
It was that myth of Massena that broke him in Spain. He developed too many bad habits in Italy that wouldn't pass muster in a unforgiving theater like Spain.
@EK-gr9gd
@EK-gr9gd 3 жыл бұрын
And he was a damned looter! Second to Soult.
@TheKastroman
@TheKastroman 3 жыл бұрын
Here is another view of Masséna's lidership of the invasion of Portugal: The Duke of Wellington wrote of the murder, thefts and worse: “The British people, I’m certain, wouldn’t believe the indecent behaviours of the French after their retreat. I have never seen, nor heard, nor read of such behaviour and am convinced their actions have no equal in world history. You will hear several shocking recounts which should be told to the world at large. They killed all the countryfolk they found. Every day, we found the bodies of women, young and old, who were either stabbed, or shot. Since we were near Condexia, they regularly sent patrols to fetch all girls over the age of 10 to the camp to satisfy the soldiery… Every child we met was in tears, mourning the death of a parent. The houses were systematically burned … They dug up and looted the graves. Two days ago, one of our patrols entered a village where they found 36 corpses, most of whom were in their beds…”
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKastroman Soult, Massena, and Murat were primarily responsible for the large-scale violence in Spain
@sanfordwong
@sanfordwong 3 жыл бұрын
Come on his health was bad at that moment. Now I'm very understanding about why he had to bring his mistress with him to take care his everyday living. Battlefield is a very harsh environment especially in Spain instead of Germany or Italy. If Napoleon called him to Russia, he would be very likely to died there.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine a decrepit Greek architecture hall with the hall’s sides lined with statues of the Marshal’s, with myself in at the end... with chants of, “Terror Belli, Decus Pacis” while walking down the hall.
@natehammar7353
@natehammar7353 3 жыл бұрын
This hall must be made to exist if it doesn’t. We already know what order to put them in. 😏
@ralexmarquez
@ralexmarquez 3 жыл бұрын
if you guys were to do a series on the Diadochi and the battles they waged, It'd be grand
@stefanfilipovits21
@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah! That sounds great
@santamaria7733
@santamaria7733 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleonic wars: Me and the boys taking on the monarchy
@lukebrand6382
@lukebrand6382 3 жыл бұрын
the revolution marches on the legs of the boys
@khameronsmith108
@khameronsmith108 3 жыл бұрын
Gf: Come over Me: Can't me and the boys are fighting for the glory of the Emperor
@yazui.i.9368
@yazui.i.9368 3 жыл бұрын
Because of the effort made on this Channel, my interest in History and Wars went pretty high starting from last year on. I must say if there would be more people like you guys, spreading history so interestingly, than usual people like me learn more
@archibaldmccutcheon5884
@archibaldmccutcheon5884 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly well done! Massena in his prime would have made anyone suffer restless nights. Being a proud member of Clan Donald was quite pleased with McDonald's placement. He has similarities to Longstreet. Lee's Old War Horse. Can't wait for your next installment. Maybe get an answer to the Ney question. I myself believe he resides in restful peace in North Carolina.
@joshuagrover795
@joshuagrover795 Жыл бұрын
In his prime Masséna was alongside Lannes and Davout as one of France's finest commanders especially with independent command. If Napoleon had let him recover from his campaigns instead of throwing him immediately back into the fight, then his military abilities despite aging might well have been sharp and decisive a big "what if." Clearly a man with many raw military abilities, incredible since he never received any formal education or military training. The only other problem with Masséna was his love for looting.
@brianjtarr
@brianjtarr 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more more of his battles when you're finished with the marshals. You could still do Marengo, Dresden, the Egyptian Campaign... The list goes on. In fact, it's kinda strange that there's a video about Toulon, and then the next battle you cover is twelve years later. Such high quality videos every time.
@PipoZePoulp
@PipoZePoulp 3 жыл бұрын
"Good and brave, but unlucky" Bad luck was the worst flaw in a general according to Napoleon. Ambition and treachery, he could work with or around, Fortune he couldn't.
@TumbleweedMK4
@TumbleweedMK4 8 ай бұрын
At first I was shocked that Massena was so low on the list, but then, given the Marshalate time frame being from 1804- 1815, it is true that most of his legendary performances were well before then.
@antivalidisme5669
@antivalidisme5669 3 жыл бұрын
I won't lie, gotta love Bayonne's omnipresence on your maps of France ;) MacDonald was brave for sure, but he was a noble person too.
@sauronmordor7494
@sauronmordor7494 3 жыл бұрын
;)
@frozenfire5917
@frozenfire5917 3 жыл бұрын
"When Masséna was opposed to me on the field, I never slept comfortably"
@maartenroelofs6665
@maartenroelofs6665 3 жыл бұрын
It has been 2 and a half months already since part 4, when is part 5 coming? The other parts were only 4 weeks apart if im correct. You guys are my favorite history channel!
@Princeofthebow
@Princeofthebow 3 жыл бұрын
Truly beautiful! We want part 5!
@Mike22Katana
@Mike22Katana 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful channel and series, can't believe I have only just stumbled across this! My total novice stab at the top 5. 1. Davout 2. Soult 3. Berthier 4. Suchet 5a. Lannes 5b. Ney
@jpharris5757
@jpharris5757 3 жыл бұрын
As a true blue Brit, I've obviously always been blind to the French perspective, reading the only 'real' account of how things were. note: limited in depth reading. This Chanel is excellent to provide counter points and thoroughly enjoyable and readily digestible accounts, but really loving these Marshal reviews. Just hurry up with the next 3...
@sephiroth5815
@sephiroth5815 3 жыл бұрын
This channel improved my history knowledge. Thank you Epic History :D
@victoriousomen
@victoriousomen 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these biographies! They give such extra depth to the previous battle videos, feature some truly inspirational individuals and portray the age in amazing detail. Thank you!
@josephbenjamin2413
@josephbenjamin2413 3 жыл бұрын
"Massena was notorious for extorting vast sums from the local Italians, often while his own troops went hungry and without pay." My heart fell when I heard this. The man forgot his roots.
@alanclark4722
@alanclark4722 3 жыл бұрын
Best series i've watched in along time.
@faridmakhluffarras524
@faridmakhluffarras524 3 жыл бұрын
Messena: *Got shot in his Eyeball by Napoleon Berthier: It was my fault Man i wonder how Napoleon feel in that moment
@haveagreatday6822
@haveagreatday6822 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair Napoleon had always been a little bit intimidated by Massena since his on par with Moreau and Jourdan and infact his above Dumouriez,Serurier and Most of Napoleon’s Other marshal such as Lannes,Mortier,Bessieres,Soult and Macdonald. So i think Napoleon was kinda hella Scared that he shot massena. But Massena wasn’t really the type of person to be vengeful
@kevindalton2981
@kevindalton2981 3 жыл бұрын
So Christmas came early this year. Thank you Epic History TV
@deuxpomme9777
@deuxpomme9777 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing the intro always hypes me up I swear this is the best youtube channel for the Napoleonic wars, Love the video as always epic history tv!!!! Much love to you guys over there 💜
@cjthegood
@cjthegood 3 жыл бұрын
If circumstances were favorable, I think both MacDonald and Masséna would have been ranked higher. Honestly, I thought Masséna would have been included in the Top 5 marshals. But, after learning about his unfortunate blunders, I've seen this ranking as reasonable. In the case of MacDonald, if he hadn't been too close to Moreau, he wouldn't have been suspected by Napoleon. Maybe he would have been included in the first batch of marshals and have fought during the emperor's earlier campaigns.
@aydrianna22
@aydrianna22 3 жыл бұрын
"It is a terrible loss for you and your children, but an even greater loss for me." lol anyone else think that's a bit weird to write to a grieving widow?
@Talyrion
@Talyrion 3 жыл бұрын
For all his talents, Napoléon wasn't the most considerate person in the world, I'm afraid.
@YiannissB.
@YiannissB. 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being that widow. “Thnx your majesty. That really helped...”
@duxveritatis2569
@duxveritatis2569 3 жыл бұрын
I mean he was one of his few true friends and a very good subject so it's not that weird. Especially in a time where service to your country was held on very high regard.
@aydrianna22
@aydrianna22 3 жыл бұрын
@@duxveritatis2569 Oh, I'm not doubting that he was closer to Napolean, just a funny thing to actually say to the spouse and her children lol.
@ryandepaulo
@ryandepaulo 3 жыл бұрын
@@duxveritatis2569 "my true friend and very good subject is more important than your husband or father" lol it's so napoleon
@paulblees4522
@paulblees4522 3 жыл бұрын
Please make also videos about great generals, politicians and other interesting persons of this time (like Eugène de Beauharnais, Fouché, Talleyrand and Tsar Alexander)
@toochangz
@toochangz 3 жыл бұрын
Massena visited Great Britain on his later years, apparently he and Wellington got along really well in their later years At one dinner Massena came up to Wellington and grabbed him and playfully said "I finally caught you!" Massena then pointed to his grey hair and said "Wellington turned every hair on my body grey in Portugal." Wellington and Soult also met late in life but did not have as good a relationship as Wellington and Massena did
@centurymemes1208
@centurymemes1208 3 жыл бұрын
Umm isn't that Wellington when he grabbed soult instead of massena? Besides massena died in 1817
@suprakashchakraborty546
@suprakashchakraborty546 3 жыл бұрын
Epic history T. V. Is my favorite history channel, which always give perfect history documentaries and it is the only channel from where I created a great taste for history.Thank you Epic History T.V for making such extraordinary documentries.
@spectator6964
@spectator6964 3 жыл бұрын
A million thanks for this video! Excellent work as always. I thought Massena might rank higher........I still expect to see my man Davout take the top spot!
@karimsamyhaidri8132
@karimsamyhaidri8132 3 жыл бұрын
Bessières was killed at Rippach few meters away from Ney who said: "It's our fate to all". His aide de camp was also killed by a cannon ball that day.
@michaelbaker9150
@michaelbaker9150 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a historical comedy with all these marshals.
@stefanfilipovits21
@stefanfilipovits21 3 жыл бұрын
The team who did The Death Of Stalin would be perfect for that
@Hasdrubhaal
@Hasdrubhaal 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest history channel on youtube, no doubt. Narrator is so damn good. Can't say how many times I've listened to the Napoleonic Wars series. It's my favourite series ever.
@Rublecurrency
@Rublecurrency 3 жыл бұрын
For Russian People Massena is a special historical figure not because of his victories over enemies (for example over russo-austrian army at Zurich) but because of his attempt to trap and destroy Suvorov's army after defeating allies at Zurich. He was beaten by Suvorov who had 14 thousand soldiers VS 24 thousand of Massena's army at Mutotal, Switzerland. After Suvorov's death, Massena said "I would give all my victories for one Suvorov's Swiss campaign" That defeat didnt make Massena a bad general, because of Suvorov's brilliant military leadership, may be at one level with Napoleon at that time.. For me Massena is one of 5 Best french marshals as Ney, Lannes, Davout and Murat.
@khalidal-hasan9535
@khalidal-hasan9535 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite KZbin series. Thank you Epic History for this great content 👏 👌 ❤
@Juandinggong
@Juandinggong 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the Part 5 desperately. We appreciate your hard work
@soapmaker2263
@soapmaker2263 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel on all of youtube.
@saifakib8346
@saifakib8346 3 жыл бұрын
If Davout doesn't Win I am gonna take legal action.
@mobitouchiha
@mobitouchiha 3 жыл бұрын
Make it a class action. He is in all but name Napoleons Labienus.
@babmax9499
@babmax9499 3 жыл бұрын
Lannes could win if it would not be incredible
@CosmicFaust
@CosmicFaust 3 жыл бұрын
The amazing series continues. Thanks for all the hard work EHTV! It really is greatly appreciated 😁. After this series, will you be working on new ones (like World War 2)?
@shubhambeniwal7146
@shubhambeniwal7146 3 жыл бұрын
*Waiting for next part Lannes and Davout in particular.I believe the Imperial Guard would have changed tide of Waterloo if used by Napoleon with Lannes or Davout as Commander in earlier stages of battle.*
@yrsjhydjmdhyt
@yrsjhydjmdhyt 3 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Waterloo may have turned out different if Lannes and Davout were present. But the outcome of Napoleon’s downfall was never in question. No one single country can outlast an alliance determined to destroy you forever. Napoleonic France was simply worn down, not defeated by brilliant war maneuvers.
@Benkenobi8118
@Benkenobi8118 3 жыл бұрын
@@yrsjhydjmdhyt Disagree. After Schonbrunn and the war of the 5th coalition, it was just Britain vs France. I think had he not invaded Russia, and went to Spain, he could have won. But I don't know how it would have worked after his death. The powers that be were determined to crush the French.
@yrsjhydjmdhyt
@yrsjhydjmdhyt 3 жыл бұрын
@@Benkenobi8118 Wrong. The Russian invasion only accelerated the inevitable. There was no way Napoleonic France could match the resources of the Coalition. Take a look at the makeup of the French army that fought at Austerlitz vs Wagram vs Waterloo. You will see an continual decline of quality soldiers. Whether it was 1815 or a few years later, a single country cannot win a war of attrition.
@nixon9346
@nixon9346 3 жыл бұрын
@@yrsjhydjmdhyt i dont see decline at wagram,it was big battle with alot of cassualties and austrians were getting better.Napoleon lost his army in russia,i mean 500k soldiers,you just cant recover from that.
@natehammar7353
@natehammar7353 3 жыл бұрын
@@nixon9346 Exactly. The generals, veterans, and most especially horses, lost in Russia made Leipzig and Waterloo inevitable. Napoleon couldn’t beat Russia in Russia, but he was the master of the rest of Europe, especially with Emperor Francis’ treatment of Charles, the only commander to really defeat the Grand Army.
@owenowen212
@owenowen212 3 жыл бұрын
The production quality and historical detail of your documentaries is simply outstanding.
@TanzaniaCountryball
@TanzaniaCountryball 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice! I literally woke up and then found this was uploaded literally 42 seconds ago lol
@auswhofan
@auswhofan 3 жыл бұрын
This is a top notch quality production, gripping viewing, love it!
@thebulletthatkilledjfk8803
@thebulletthatkilledjfk8803 3 жыл бұрын
Only problem with these vids is that you have to wait a month for another. Thx for all the likes guys, I don't really post comments so its pretty cool.
@Warui88
@Warui88 3 жыл бұрын
Get your ladder, Lannes, we're going in early to get the next one!
@NDR-hn3ue
@NDR-hn3ue 3 жыл бұрын
YES !!!
@julianius484
@julianius484 3 жыл бұрын
True but making quality videos such as this takes time.
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560
@etiennejacquesjosephmacdon2560 3 жыл бұрын
@@julianius484 yes, trust me it is highly efficient at killing time (both the process of making this video and watching it AGAIN just to ensure there's no mistake)
@cagatayaksu6549
@cagatayaksu6549 3 жыл бұрын
I Just LOVE This Channel ❤️❤️❤️
@andretorres75
@andretorres75 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. Can’t wait for the top 6. Stories about the route and retreat of the French from Portugal are still told today. Actually my grandfather’s house is near one of Wellington’s headquarters in Trancoso (near Almeida).
@AtheAetheling
@AtheAetheling 3 жыл бұрын
My Brain: Buy the flag of the Imperial Guard from that website. Me: why? My Brain: You gotta
@rollingthunder8630
@rollingthunder8630 3 жыл бұрын
This video was 28 minutes?? Felt like it lasted a few minutes!! More please!
@ICfilm80
@ICfilm80 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite historical series by far. It makes me sad though that Napoleon lost. :(
@nixon9346
@nixon9346 3 жыл бұрын
You just cant force whole europe to adopt continental system,that was his mistake
@ICfilm80
@ICfilm80 3 жыл бұрын
@@nixon9346 Agreed, though the EU did it a century and a half later. He was a visionary in most other ways.
@nixon9346
@nixon9346 3 жыл бұрын
@@ICfilm80 what do you mean by that
@ICfilm80
@ICfilm80 3 жыл бұрын
@@nixon9346 Well his legal codes are still largely in use today and he was a firm believer in a meritocratic sort of nationalism that rewarded capable individuals regardless of birth. He was an enlightened nationalist.
@nixon9346
@nixon9346 3 жыл бұрын
@@ICfilm80 no i mean EU did it century later
@ftr1453
@ftr1453 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great work! With these videos you are rising up a new generation of Napoleon's time lovers. Thank you and continue with it!
@thomascrozet3500
@thomascrozet3500 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to hear about Marshal Davout! His name never came out yet, but man he will get the first spot! Loyal - Undefeated - GameChanger - Effective. I know that the others 5 left are very good but still...
@prathamatwal936
@prathamatwal936 3 жыл бұрын
The best KZbin channel not only in history but in the whole KZbin ever no doubt in that
@Tonykiprop
@Tonykiprop 3 жыл бұрын
Impressed with Napoleon admitting misjudgement of Macdonald's character in as much as it came late.
@Kidvirus44
@Kidvirus44 3 жыл бұрын
napoleon suffer modern propaganda. Both from the winners, and from french republic.
@avalle4493
@avalle4493 3 жыл бұрын
Epic History and Kings&Generals videos on the same day😍 Christmas is really coming.
@arveanturtelcontar6138
@arveanturtelcontar6138 3 жыл бұрын
Moreau would have been a marshal if not for Moreau's wife's ambitions and the intrigues that arose from Moreau's wife and the Moreau club.
@ernestoA.1999
@ernestoA.1999 3 жыл бұрын
Moreau was known to be jealous of Bonaparte’s military talents
@etoiledesneiges-d
@etoiledesneiges-d 3 жыл бұрын
Moreau was a direct competitor to Napoleon due to his wife's ambition. He was the first choice for the brumaire coup, but declined as he hadn't the balls to perform it.
@freewal
@freewal 3 жыл бұрын
Étoile summarise it. Sieyes was looking for a general to make the coup. Moreau didn’t have the balls. Napoleon did it and he became the Fist Consul then Emperor. End of story. Then the Moreau’s wife was jealous and pushed his husband to commit a coup. Women had a crucial political role... jealousy and bad advices.
@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730
@thehistoryvideogameandgame4730 3 жыл бұрын
Moreau was made a posthumous marshal by Louis XVIII in 1814
@ernestoA.1999
@ernestoA.1999 3 жыл бұрын
The History, Video Game And Game Show Fan No , Moreau was killed at the battle of Dresden 1813
@sanfordwong
@sanfordwong 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel giving very fair words about Massena. Yes I regard him should be a top 5 or even top 3 Marshals by his whole military achievements, but you are right his best achievements mostly made before he was a Marshal. Then I expect Suchet may be in next chapter, as if it is important to count the achievements after rewarded Marshal's baton. Top 3 very likely to be Davout/Soult/Lannes.
@warhead_beast7661
@warhead_beast7661 3 жыл бұрын
Here in Dresden we have an memorial for Jean-Victor Moreau because at the battle of Dresden, a cannon shot shattered both his legs. He died a day later near Dresden of his wounds.
@freewal
@freewal 3 жыл бұрын
Moreau is a traitor. Opposed to Napoleon to protect the Republic but finally offering his services to monarchs. He was a fool.
@SirHector1999
@SirHector1999 3 жыл бұрын
You guys do astounding work! You have created thee place to learn about the napoleonic wars! Thank you for all the hard work and I can't get enough of your napoleonic content, I really can't thank you guys enough❤
@TLOK1918
@TLOK1918 3 жыл бұрын
I almost shed a tear when Napoleon was talking to Macdonald in that final meeting. It's so refreshing to see him acknowledge his mistakes and show genuine admiration and gratitude even for those of his men who oppose him out of principle. Just goes to show how wrong his being characterized as an egotistical megalomaniac is. I was also surprised to see Masséna ranked so low--I would've thought Ney would be #7--but it makes sense if we are ranking them as a whole and not just in their peak shape. I'll still wait for the next part before deciding whether I agree though. Great video as always!
@nixon9346
@nixon9346 3 жыл бұрын
Nay will be 6
@jeandupond7283
@jeandupond7283 3 жыл бұрын
Video très intéressante comme d'habitude. Merci !
@fatboibrian9047
@fatboibrian9047 3 жыл бұрын
don't know if anyone else agrees, I think a game with the art style and animation would make an amazing game
@internetstrangerstrangerofweb
@internetstrangerstrangerofweb 3 жыл бұрын
I remember so many years ago when you guys made your first videos on the Napoleonic war. I was immediately hooked. It’s so amazing to see how your channel has grown and improved. You should have so many more subscribers. Goes to show how broken KZbin is. Simply astounding work as usual, epic history! They should use this in colleges!
@AAAA-zc9gz
@AAAA-zc9gz 3 жыл бұрын
Duke of wellington: When massena opposed to me on the field I never slept comfortably. Damn! Massena must be a real fighter even when he is outnumbered he still find ways on how to win battles.
@joshuagrover795
@joshuagrover795 Жыл бұрын
At the same time Masséna's health was very poor but could still scare opponents.
@felixgagnon8323
@felixgagnon8323 3 жыл бұрын
The intro of this mini series is just on point. Love the dramatic music!
@marquelleliang9940
@marquelleliang9940 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, New France was still a French colony...
@hyperjohn6627
@hyperjohn6627 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel!!! Thank you so much for doing this!!
@LaCitadelleYT
@LaCitadelleYT 3 жыл бұрын
As good as always. Btw, Masséna's nickname given by Napoléon was "L'Enfant chéri de la Victoire", the "beloved children of Victory", not gâté/spoilt. I guess the next three will be Suchet Berthier and Ney, and the podium will be Soult Lannes and Davout, though I'd personally rank Ney higher not for his tactical ability but his courage and badassery alone
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