The battle of Zama Hannibal and Scipio's final showdown (Rome vs Carthage History)

[@pandabear4565]

"Ungrateful country. You shall not even posses my bones." That makes me so sad.

[@nicholasbrown668]

He and his legions gave so much for Rome and they cast him aside, Scipio will always be a role model for me

[@craftsANDRANDOMSTUFF]

@@nicholasbrown668 the role model should be the idiots in the senate who never risked shit and still called the shots. The world keeps working in the same ways.

[@connycontainer9459]

Don't. It's the ultimate triumph of an individual over sinister forces of the collective.

[@ericlimon9718]

@@craftsANDRANDOMSTUFF mmhmm some things never change

[@minamotofchds2316]

Scipio at least goes down in history as the greatest general of Rome

[@avalle4493]

This is the only time in history that 2 military masterminds clash. (Both man are easily in the top 5 of greatest generals) I love the parallels between Hannibal and Scipio and how the second punic war basically became a struggle between houses of Barca and Scipio. Both families where noble, rich and produce really great military comanders that reach it pinnacle with this 2 geniuses. Both families suffer deaths in the war: Hannibal Broders (Hasdrubal and Mago) for the Barcas and Scipio father(Publius) and uncle (Cneus) for the Scipio. Both Hannibal and Scipio start their military careers at Spain. Both men fought under their fathers command. Both men where hated by their senates and at the end where betray by them. And both men die in the same year !!! They where 2 sides of the same coin and will forever live in history as legends.

[@riykin]

Theres a manga about that called Ad Astra: Scipio and Hannibal. Fascinating read

[@Longordon1]

Scipio belong to Cornelia's House

[@markberryhill2715]

Well said.

[@ikedi6005]

Pompey the Great and Julius Caesar at Dyracchium and Pharsalus beg to differ

[@Fery-Mythology]

Scipio isnt same Level like Hannibal, the battle of Zama wasnt very fair .. Hannibal had nothing , his cavellery was new and bad his Infantrie same ...only his vetreans , but this wasnt enough against Roman Army ...

[@kasifhanif2046]

The carthaginian elite were afraid that Hannable would stage a coup and with the people behind him he would be successful. The Carthaginian elites feared his revenge as when he asked for more men they refused not only him but also his father during the first war. like the 20,000 men who went to Spain in 215 bc instead of Italy. Carthage had men in reserve such as the men who fought in Spain or at the battle of Utica or at the battle of the great plains or the citizens who fought at Zama or they could have raised them and given to Hannable but didnt they didnt even supply money or food. Thus they knew a strong and angry Hannable could stage a coup or a massacure of the men who had stabbed him in the back. The same with Scipio. The senate feared his growing power and the love he got from the people. Not only did Scipio win in Spain then Africa. He also won at Magnesia. The senate tried to insult Scipio Africanus as they sent him as an advisor to his brother. But his brother let Scipio Africanus have the command for the Battle of Magnesia and he won and brought the mighty Antiochus the great to kneel who's empire was many times larger than the lands Rome had under there control. So both men were a victim of there own success.

[@Jinisinsane]

Ok, you calling Hannibal Hannable is bothering me more than it should.

[@GUNDAM-NOLASAINTS]

Sound like the Democrats

[@timpenfield5]

It's still happening today. Here in the USA. politicians work to keep veterans out of politics, VETRANS WHO FOUGHT IN WARS THE POLITICIANS STARTED. This time, we will see.

[@nomooon]

@president camachoAmerican servicemen/veterans benefits are high because it's voluntary service, so you need very good incentives.

[@1anfinity08]

Politicians are really a bunch of nasty people. Back then til now

[@chris_2208]

What a story! I realized that typical politicians have been the villain even back then. I never knew that Hannibal also made it to be a great governor. Wow!

[@htoodoh5770]

Christopher Durias Politic often required you to be a villain, however what the Carthargnian elder did was unreasonable.

[@FlashPointHx]

Awesome - I love to hear comments like this. If someone can take something home for this - it makes it all worth it

[@thetrain47539]

"Put Hannibal and Scipio together in a cell with nothing but a stick and they'll find a way to escape" - Some history figure I cant remember the name of for the life of me!!!

[@gilgamesh8334]

CXVII 117 R the can, someone you can cross the alps with elephants can achieve anything

[@lullabylullaby205]

hard times produce strong people (great leaders and generals) Strong people produce peace times Piece time produce weak people (scum politicians) Weak people produce hard times

[@DanishCamp]

This was probably one of the most skilled battles. It was incredibly hard back then to change formations during battle. Usually you were comitted to your tactic before the fights, so it is incredible to see the discipline and the ability to get the orders in place during combat.

[@Warmaker01]

Correct. It's not like a video game where you can instantly direct multiple units to do whatever you want, no matter how far away they were, any time you want. A lot of times there's only enough discipline, training, command and control to draw the armies up and go, with no fancy maneuvering. If anything, fancy movements will only disrupt the formation leaving openings to be exploited. You only did this if the leaders were good and the army well drilled, disciplined.

[@tauceti8341]

Seriously this was so good the ending gave me mad chills. Especially with the quote at the end.

[@derrheat154]

Not really, you can still see the old and magnificent buildings of rome if you go there. Can't really say the same about carthage though

[@someone_7233]

Me two, I almost cried 🔥

[@TruthIsToBlame]

That ending quote by Scipio Amellianus is so heavy

[@Man-ye4xm]

True

[@ooopppp1]

two great generals betrayed by their OWN countries

[@ricky7426]

I mean they never gave their word to support them so technicly its not a betrayal

[@Juanito1124]

Imagine if they meet in the afterlife. They have so much in common. If only there is.

[@undertyped1]

It wasn't the people who betrayed them, it was the ones in power.

[@ricky7426]

@@Juanito1124 mate mate i dont get your name youve got the whitest english name and then martinez the least whitest surname fucking hilarius mister klark martinez (also dont sue me for personal harasment i cannot afford another lawsuit)

[@dukeman7595]

@@Juanito1124 No "IF'S There most certainly "IS".. You may have the chance to talk with them yourself..

[@esmandagamer3441]

Ungreatful country shall not poses my bones #thuglife

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

Love this!

[@zeer6425]

@@em34ev3r STFU james

[@TaxPayingContributor]

Fine effort, all! History is still being written... but, thanks to these videos, it is being revisited and preserved for history. Gratitude

[@sizanogreen9900]

"One who does not learn from history is doomed to repeat it." A sentence so often recited that I continue to be shocked by how few people seem to have taken it to their heart.

[@hamidious]

So Hannibal had 2 bets of winning this battle. The first one was that the Elephants would wreck havock and give him a quick advantage. The second one was that the Carthagian Cavalry would lure enemy cavalry for enough time to win melee with his veterans. Hannibal was brilliant even in defeat.

[@latter-daysaintbatman2679]

And Scipio already knew that was going to happen, and thus used that against Hannibal just as Hannibal used the Romans' tactics at Cannae to defeat them.

[@lasagner9567]

One could also argue that betting was not a good idea, since it brought the victory down to chance and a roll of the die rather than a numerical advantage. This was shown in the battle when he lost not one but both of his bets.

[@aleksapetrovic6519]

Some men live and die in the shades of olive tree. Some men change the world, even in defeat.

[@purepwnage007]

I respectfully disagree, hannibal's tactics at zama were very basic and relied on his opponent being undisciplined and stupid. His previous battles were an incredible display of him walking a tightrope in order to puppeteer the most efficient fight, truly brilliant. but what I'm getting from this video is that the battle basically boiled down to three things: -his inferior cavalry luring away a numerically superior force of cavalry (wishful thinking) -his infantry defeating the famed roman infantry (wishful thinking) -his elephants doing damage (not a bad idea, as long as you hedge your bets) i think really it just came down to the elephants, which were ineffective. the moment the elephants failed the battle was lost.

[@purepwnage007]

Turns out he was running out of fresh water so he was forced into fighting

[@everfree4175]

Hannibal and Scipio had what neither Carthage nor Rome could ever possess, honor and respect.

[@omarmohsen7878]

tell me more about julius ceaser and his roman legions in Gaul it was a massacre or were they sending flowers xD ?

[@omarmohsen7878]

@Legio thats funny xD if they didnt accept their rule and accept rome as their ruler they should die xD. thats civilized tbh. anyway its history im not attacking or defending anyone im just putting myself back there as a one of the Gauls , id hate rome and i can tell why they hated romans soo much back then

[@lakedaimonia9972]

Comparing amoral Rome that fell as victim to Sula and later Caesar and the Roman Republic during Scipios time is foolish. These were the two different Roman societies and different legal systems. As Montesqueu said: Rome fell not by barbarians, but by destroying their enemy: the Carthage. When Rome increased its jurisdiction and territory beyond Italy, it went to shit. People started behaving like damn capitalists and nobody cared anymore for morals, customs, etc. It was all about the money. That is why Grachus failed, and that is why Caton and Brutus lost the war - because they were men of old, not the men of the new order. New order demanded scheming amoral population.

[@kration2484]

@Legio XXI Rapax "Gods i hate the Gauls, even my father hated them"

[@glennross85]

I always thought Rome started to go shit after Augustus.

[@jamesdeek7039]

The amount of respect I have for these ancient generals. Can you imagine the skill it takes to maneuver so many men , to analyze your opponents movements and make quick decisions.

[@avalle4493]

This battle is a clash of titans. All of you are heavily underestimating Scipio. 1.- Scipio conquest Hispain and Africa. He won at legendary battles like Ilpa, Bacuola, Cartago Nova and Zama. He defeated elephants, numidians, and hoplites. This man was a genius, telling that he won thanks to "luck" is ridiculous. 2.- Hannibal has not only a greather army but a better one... His veterans where a killing machine created by one of history greatest Generals to crush roman armies.

[@paolostival6972]

Just 15000 of his men were veterans of Italy, he had less cavalry and the roman troops were the Legiones Cannensis, formed by soldiers which had survived crushing defeats (such as Cannae), desertors, sackers, etc. They were all veterans of the very hard italian campaigns tho and they detested Hannibal and his troops with unquenched hatred.

[@kingnathiii1927]

Both were incredible commanders, but I think this battle was lost before it started, yes the carthaginian had more infantry, but most of them were mercenaries and citizen militias which had nothing on roman hastatis and principes, Romans had the advantage in Infantry and Cavalry, with 50% more and better cavalry scipio was basically sure to win that part of the battle and we all know how important cavalry are. the only advantage Hannibal had was his elephants which I will say scipio made a damn good job at taking them down.

[@omarjedidi8958]

Scipio is a mastermind tactitian, and a worthy student and foe of Hannibal. Without him maybe that the fate of Rome and Carthage would be reversed ... But, Hannibal didn't have a better army at Zama. It's only his third line ( his veterans ) who was reliable and can match the roman principes and triarii ( the first two line could barely face the hastati )

[@rourouxiao0724]

It's spelled Ilipa, Baecula, and Carthago Nova.

[@kamo9882]

Infact both Scepio and Hanibal were master tacticians.yet you know why many people admire Hanibal more? Hanibal hasn't gained reinforcement from his Carthegenian leaders in his entire journey towards Rome. They have just forgotten him. Only he recruited local tribes in his way in foreign land, trained them in foreign land and made them sharp and deadly fighters. Imagine crossing Alps without reinforcement in a foreign country with huge enemy garrisons here and there.His tactics were quite incredible. Notice what he did in Lake Trasamine. Realy genius.

[@renewoffles4369]

I can only imagine the badass speech scipio have to those soldiers in exile

[@Daniel-du7pv]

Well, but Rome city never got destroyed, that’s why it received the name “eternal city”. It’s pretty fascinating to walk in Rome and see dozens of monuments, kilometers of walls and hundreds of constructions built over 2.000 years ago. The majority of Aurelian wall still there!

[@dragooll2023]

A lot got destroyed in the germanic sacks of 410AC and 450AC, and the spanish-german sack in the 1500s

[@dragooll2023]

Also at the siege of rome during justininian's reconquest.

[@macobuzi]

@@dragooll2023 It got sacked several times but has never been razed.

[@TTKDMS]

Oh if walls could talk...

[@ximen459]

''It looked like it was gonna be a stalemate until... Ohh my God it's the cavalry''

[@cagan2584]

90% of battles in a nutshell

[@arealtreat2654]

@@cagan2584 but wat happen to hannibles troops that he told to lure them away did they all lose all they had ta do was run and attack run and attack till hannible won lol

[@ConfectionerCat]

Good reference, I chuckled, you get a cookie

[@ivannierez7731]

Cheer guys the cavalry it's here!

[@latter-daysaintbatman2679]

Yep. Battle at Pelennor Fields in Lord of the Rings, Battle of Bastards in Game of Thrones, Battle at the Alliance Gate in my books where the Meringardian and Britonnian knights rescue the Emperor and his outnumbered forces from the overwhelming dark elf army, and ofc, the Battle of Zama.

[@angeloanderson2568]

Amazing quality both visually and in story telling! I already loved learning about Roman history with Hannibal and Scipio, but never heard about their tragically poetic endings. Truly fantastic work that would entertain anyone to learning history.

[@ひろゆき二十一]

Best Battle of Zama summary in youtube for me and puts a lot more context to what had truly aspired aside from the tactical aspect of the battle

[@Silence.......356]

Just wait untill history marsh does it

[@latter-daysaintbatman2679]

You see, Hannibal managed to convince the Gauls to side with him to destroy Rome and so Rome convinced one of Carthage's allies, the Numidians to side with them because Hannibal won't allow the Numidians to have their own country.

[@jaaackaissa1633]

Nomidin's story is a roll. At the beginning of the war, Hannibal was allied with Masinessa, king of Eastern Nomedia, and promised to marry Sophonisba, the daughter of one of Carthage's generals, but then they plotted to assassinate Massenisa, put a weak child in his place, allied himself with his enemy Syphax, king of Western Nomedia (he was an ally of Rome) and married him to Sophonisba. Masinisa realized this Masinisa's alliance with Rome.

[@PickBit]

Although a defeat on the field Zama was a tactical victory for Hannibal. He foresaw and countered Scipio's brilliant offensive putting him in serious difficulty; what won it for the Romans was the superiority of their troops, as so many other times throughout their history. The greatest general of all times was not Alexander or Caesar or Napoleon, it was Hannibal Barca, period. I say this as an Italian with an immense love for Roman history and very strong admiration for Roman military prowess; there have been countless amazing generals among consuls and emperors of Rome, but Hannibal was just from another planet. Had he had the legions under his command he would have conquered the whole freaking world by himself

[@Don8Maverick]

beside his tactical prowess the least talked thing about Hannibal is his logistics planifications, all of the generals you mentioned when set on a conquest they had a solid supply line behind them, unlike Hannibal who had to live and plan the survival of tens of thousands of soldiers and camp followers in a hostile land unknown to him, not only this his army was composed of multi ethnical and multi racial soldiers and no record of a revolt or mutiny, that is unheard of.

[@stuckupcurlyguy]

He was definitely some sort of genius or savant. Not only in battlefield tactics but logistics, charismatic leadership, organisation, planning. He was the right man on the wrong side of history.

[@richardrobinson1697]

ALTHOUGH HANNIBAL WAS AN ALL TIME GREAT GENERAL, I WOULD TAKE JC OVERALL. CAESAR TOOK ON GAUL, BRITAIN, GERMANY, USED BRILLIANT TACTICS TO BEAT THEM ALL. NOT TO MENTION POMPEI AND HIS ROMAN LEGIONS. A DREAM MATCH UP, WE CAN ONLY GUESS. MY MONEY WOULD BE ON JC!🗡🇮🇹💵🗡

[@PickBit]

@@richardrobinson1697 Mmh... yes, I see where you are coming from; Caesar was incredibly successful, he took on half of Europe and was victorious, but Hannibal took on Rome herself! Ok Rome was not the powerhouse it was in Caesar's time, but still had by far the better soldiers. Yet Hannibal was never bested tactically and strategically, he was defeated only by his own people and the lack of support from his homeland. Personally I think no general in history stands up to Hannibal's military genius, not even Caesar. Although brilliant he was defeated more than once and I don't think his strategic mind (although certainly sharp as they come) was his best trait. Immense charisma was his strong point, his ability to inspire his men to greater deeds with his mere presence. Take the siege of Alesia for example: it wasn't strategy what ultimately gave victory to the Romans and not even the amazing engineering that afforded them to build fortifications all around the city enclosing it almost completely, it was Caesar's presence. The turning point was exactly when he joined in at the breach, leading his men personally against a force far superior in number, in the critical moment

[@rajiburrahman8176]

Khalid bin Walid a muslim general, you may also like him. He win many battles like 1:10 and used many unusual exceptional tactics.

[@jamesbarnett2483]

Loved that "Course of Empire" was included at the end-very fitting image to help visualize the sacki and torching of Carthage.

[@DarkFilmDirector]

I feel like it would have been interesting to cover Hannibal's service to the Seleucid Emperor Antiochus the Great during his exile.

[@ChevyChase301]

DMC12Gauge had Hannibal not pushed the Seleucids to war Antiochus may have taken over all of Egypt and maybe later defeated Rome.

[@guilhermedomingues6360]

It is Said Antiochus didn't use Hannibal has he could if he was commanding at magnesia for example the seleucids would have won probably

[@matthewjay660]

Cannae is pronounced in Latin as “can-EYE.”

[@lastmanstanding5423]

oh good... I'm not the only one annoyed by his pronunciation of Cannae...

[@cebuanoni]

I believe that is how it is really pronounced. It's ok to pronounce it as "ka nee" if you're not a native of Latium( a place around Rome), however, it's impt. to know the original pronunciation of the word. Thank you for the information.

[@CsStoker]

At least he didn't pronounced Principes as "prinquipes"

[@grauchomarx343]

In that case you are mispronouncing it as well. If you want to learn how to pronounce Latin, learn modern Italian. The pronunciation rules are virtually identical.

[@the-son-spice]

CsStoker that’s how it’s pronounced

[@cunningham.s_law]

wow this is so high quality

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks! Couldn’t have done it without Epimethius

[@handless7677]

God, this is so well narrated, excellent job.

[@timomastosalo]

I watched a document about this battle. The elephants were not simply dealt with (killed), many of them were so wounded that they turned back and ran amok through the Carthagenian ranks. They caused some panic in their troops, and weakened them. Plus made them ill disciplined for the rest of the fight.

[@theallseeingmaster]

A well done, well written, well narrated compelling video. I knew the story before I watched ad was still informed and entertained. Good work.

[@Brandazzo22]

I read a lot of history sources and books on the second Punic war and your video is by far the most complete. Bravo!

[@amicable5237]

History can be so poetic sometimes, this is beautiful

[@michamalinowski8015]

Now this is how to make a history podcast interesting, engaging and of high quality. Thums up.

[@slopcrusher3482]

I can imagine the Roman troops on their back foot, the see the holes opening up in their line, they’re beginning to think that Hannibal is going to win again, and then they hear it... the rumbling of cavalry, the soldiers begin to cheer as they see the Roman cavalry riding up behind Hannibals forces, the romans are re-invigorated, they grasp history from the hands of Hannibal.

[@norbs9858]

who's here after second Punic war by oversimplified

[@Chalkzyyy]

Me XDD

[@joshuavasquez9701]

Yes. Much more complicated. But I'm a total Roman history dork.

[@andrei1637]

This was more than beautiful,a TV series made by you with this exact same plot would destroy the audiance

[@Vntihero]

People tend to forget, Hannibal’s source of men and resources came from SPAIN, where his father conquered and governed, then passed to Hannibal….. the whole "Hannibal could have won if supported by senate" is folley…… Scipio was in Spain crushing Hannibal’s Generals for this very reason before attacking Carthage and then beating Hannibal at Zama, Scipio was better and underrated.

[@Ollie1807]

Scipio was not better than Hannibal, cmon.

[@Vntihero]

@@Ollie1807 Scipio defeated all of Hannibal’s brothers and Generals in Spain, then took out Hannibal at Zama…… +Scipio never lost, clearly better than Hannibal lol.

[@Ollie1807]

@@Vntihero I believe even Scipio himself would disagree, lol. He was incredible, but what Hannibal did was something extraordinary.

[@Vntihero]

@@Ollie1807 no, Hannibal said himself Alexander was the best, and Scipio 2nd since Scipio beat him, they had a meeting much later in life.

[@Ollie1807]

@@Vntihero he said Alexander and Pyrrhus, then himself. And said he would've put himself first if Scipio didn't beat him

[@jamespoynor9511]

I just keep coming back to this series.... so good.

[@NjK601]

In Lindybeige video he discusses how Rome had a population of roughly 3/4 of a million people and were able to raise 4 legions in a day even after Cannae, suddenly without Carthage totally backing him Hannibals campaign seems fascinating but ultimately doomed to fail, like a cat attacking an elephant.

[@lawrenceprice3090]

Not gonna lie its pretty dam awesome that Scipio incorporated the defeat legions form Cannae into his invasion force. He is one of the best generals in history.

[@MrKatra14]

The best in history, people don't give him credit for what he did, he outsmarted Hannibal in Zama, took Spain to weakend them and was the only general to defeat a top 5 general in history and who many call the best ever, no one else did that

[@theambitious1271]

Great job man

[@andrewforte3852]

À

[@vanessathomas6486]

LOVED THIS! Great artwork and historical re-telling!

[@grub833]

as much as my favorite historical period is the dark ages i also love antiquity i find it so interesting and yet depressing all the same

[@KimNTennessee]

Great video. Scipeo's quote gave me chills. You may not live to see Karma, but future generations will. I never knew the survivors from Cannae were exiled and fought here. I cannot imagine brutally fighting with blades - how astonished they'd be at the idea of safe spaces - a different breed of men. No choice but still. Respect.

[@seto3153]

Maybe one on the Gallic wars soon?

[@admiralgoodboy]

Not even half way through and both scopio and hannibal are leaving me in awe they must've beenn true charismatic and hearty men

[@bearcolombia]

Badass and bittersweet end for both. Their lives poetry incarnate.

[@manu_spawn]

This video is absolutely amazing. The narrator, the music and the animations are top notch. There is so much passion on this. Absolutely amazing. Liked and subscribed.

[@billbob9890]

Quality content you have my sub

[@FlashPointHx]

Nice!

[@brokenbridge6316]

The video was very cool. It was such an epic journey for two extraordinary military commanders. And the empires they had come from.

[@rageraptor7127]

Had they met under different circumstances they may have been brothers

[@billskinner7670]

Had they been brothers they could have conquered the known world.

[@macobuzi]

Lol, Carthage and Rome were enemies for life, Hannibal even sword to destroy Rome, they could respect each other but could never befriend.

[@ImmortalAliens]

15:00 Scipio still got justice in the end - Hes the one and only Roman general mentioned in the Italian Anthem today - Ask any italian - they know the name Scipio

[@GoogleDBunkers]

Awesome video, though I've got a small point of critique: The full quote would be "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam" which translates to "Furthermore it is my opinion (I find, I feel) that Carthage will have to be (must be) destroyed" I'll be watching more!

[@JagerFrostTroll]

Great video, great music. Thank you

[@bradolfpittler2875]

the subtitles say "skippy oh"

[@rourouxiao0724]

They spelled Scipio wrong.

[@xxants2286xx]

Thank you so much for making these i just subbed.

[@zwolf4411]

Imagine if both of these men joined forces, what of greatness they could have achieved together.

[@tropicblue3457]

Both Scipio and Hannibal together with a strong army could have conquered lands in proportions of Alexander the Great conquests.

[@JW-jd6sn]

@@tropicblue3457 does that not show tho how great Alexander truly was, it would have took two great military leaders to match Alexander

[@slenpaiwashere3599]

James Wilson Genghis Khan took more land tho

[@RexGalilae]

Napoleon, one of the greatest commanders if not THE greatest, said it's better to leave soldiers in charge of one mediocre commander than two brilliant ones. No great commander would want to sit idly as the other gives out the orders. They'd be arguing over the finer points of tactics and strategy for days achieving nothing. This is what Caesar learnt first hand when his troops garrisoned near Belgae territory were wiped out by an ambush

[@joselegaspi2549]

That last quote, daiyuuuuum the foreshadowing.

[@TheHockeyKeeper]

For those of you that like this topic, i recommend you to read the book "Pride of Carthage - David Anthony Durham". I loved it.

[@sacredband7089]

I have that book. My only complain was why it ended after zama

[@russellhawkins366]

Excellent account. Great details mentioned. Thanks 🙏

[@friedfish007]

is there anyone who came here after watching The Second Punic War part 2 from Oversimplified? 😂

[@bombastic_side_eye_007]

Yup couldn't wait any longer

[@Deibi078]

lol

[@ChuckHickl]

I must be at the wrong party as everyone here seems to be an expert in ancient history, all speaking as if their take is the correct one. I feel we'll never discover the nuances of this battle that may have swung victory one way or another but there is no disputing the fact that Scipio and Hannibal were both great strategists and motivators. Great upload and new sub here.

[@dragooll2023]

I personally would consider hannibal a good tactician, rather than a good strategist. He was a fucking beast, but I saw some mistakes in his campaign in Italy (Not taking Rome, has a example)

[@Theuselessguitarist]

@@dragooll2023 If you do a quick search you’ll realise that the reason he didn’t take rome was because he didn’t have enough men and equipment.

[@dragooll2023]

@@Theuselessguitarist He did have enough men and equipment, but if i can recall correctly, he didn't find marching 500 km to a fortified city between two huge armies worth it.

[@rayanhey2411]

Amazing!!!!

[@FlashPointHx]

Glad you liked it!

[@paultyson4389]

A very impressive presentation. It is sad how the mediocre gang up to bring down the brilliant once they have saved their bacon. Marius comes to mind, Julius Caesar of course and later on Aurelian (?) and Aetius right at the end. Rome was sacked twice but it was modest compared to the sacking of Carthage. Thanks for your efforts. Greatly appreciated.

[@dvechng1688]

Ad Astra: Scipio to Hannibal manga got me here 😁😁

[@Jester-15]

Mago waa annoying

[@ytytiuiu2590]

Me: How many Hannibal Documentary to watch? Me too: all of them.

[@AndromedaPrima]

We can all agree that Namidian cavalries are the one who win this war. When on hannibal side, they overwhelm the romans enabling them to carry out encirclement plans like at trebia and cannae When on scipio side, they are they key to his victory at zama

[@jaaackaissa1633]

Being one of Nomidin's grandchildren made me feel proud and happy. Thank you, unfortunately, the role of Nomidin and King Masinissa has been marginalized.

[@niranjanjose9852]

Amazing job guys 🙌

[@ekmalsukarno2302]

A video on the history of Thailand, please.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

good suggestion :)

[@htoodoh5770]

Epimetheus Maybe also about Burma, such as the Karen.

[@dukeman7595]

Well done; and enjoyed

[@onuscronus984]

Rome burned Carthage and then they salted the earth.

[@براہمداغ]

Wrong. Urban Legend.

[@hazzmati]

No they didn't. Infact Carthage was rebuilt by the romans after it was burned down

[@markusfus1672]

but few decades later..

[@FlashPointHx]

No salt - just a myth. No archaeological evidence to support it. It was Julius Caesar who re-founded Carthage 100 Years after the end of the 3rd Punic War ended. Then it was destroyed in 698 AD during the Arab Conquest

[@sacredband7089]

Thats a fabrication. Where do they get all the salt for that?

[@xjuliussx]

Excelent video, very complete and complex story line, depicting that times.

[@saritar1000]

Hannibal, Scipio, and Erwin Rommel. All three have very similar stories.

[@bocilepep3684]

trio general in front africa

[@mattclements1348]

That was in depth.best video on zamma i have ever seen

[@domcasmurro2417]

Just a point: patria is not exactly country. Patria is fatherland or motherland.

[@casobrien4530]

This video looks like it would make a great film about respect and betrayal also the ending would be the city's burning as Scipios grandsons say his lines about Rome

[@Argos-xb8ek]

Hannibal lost soo much in this whole campaign his brother, his original carthaginian men, and his eye. I believe his soul was crushed after these losses.

[@jimcastor8601]

subscribed also, excellent videos and very informative.

[@sami.b4367]

Is this a movie? If not how is it not?!!! It would be an amazing movie

[@FlashPointHx]

I know right? Netflix mini series for sure

[@TuNGamerOn]

Never knew why carthage and hannibal never got their chance in hollywood, we came close in 2012 with triology dream with vin diesel as Hannibal but it was forever delayed until now :/

[@fatihsaidduran]

@@TuNGamerOn For what political or national reason is there to put Hannibal under scope? He was a person that showed how your own state can betray you. No one at least till this point has ever thought of valuing such peoples lives. If there are any that like such people, it's most likely for the hatred for Rome. I should say tho, I'm looking forward for such a worthy movie for the legendary Hannibal in the future.

[@thdoom81]

@@fatihsaidduran did he value their lives? he let his obssesion with Rome keep him playing hide and seek in Rome as scipio took down his powerbase in spain and carthage....and his attack on Rome only gave the romans more resolve to completely destroy Carthage

[@Leo_1975]

Congratulations from Brazil !!!

[@xmaniac99]

Great vid; but the pronunciation of Cannae is bit woodie (as in Holliewoodie)

[@canemcave]

the pronunciation of velites is even worse

[@pagola]

at least he tried..appreciate the effort

[@bharathr3759]

Awesome dude subscribed

[@firemasterx23]

11:21 Stalin order in the ancient world

[@bharathr3759]

Not one step backwards

[@fredhayes6162]

Excellent! Thank you

[@KeithShuler]

Saw the video already at Flash Point. Nice strategy tho.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

yeah! trying to send some more subs his way :) He has a top-notch channel, great guy to collaborate with

[@GerryBolger]

Keith Shuler I saw it too. Regardless, it's a great video. I never knew about Scipio's headstone and how he basically got shafted for being too good. When I hear stuff like that I wonder how Rome managed to be the dominant world superpower for the next half milennium. Scipio should have been given every honour possible for saving the Republic. Ungrateful fuckers...

[@KeithShuler]

Epimetheus You both create outstanding vids...keep it up!

[@KeithShuler]

GerryBolger Crazy right? I never knew that about Scipio either. Sources do say he was very arrogant. I guess when you know what you're doing and very confident people will hate on you...regardless.

[@ma.rlene4566]

This video was so helpful I used it to prep. for a exam👍👍

[@charlesferdinand422]

Rule 1 in contemporary geopolitics: Don't start a land war in Asia Rule 1 in ancient geopolitics: Don't start shit with Rome

[@itanimulll]

Great video.

[@l3anditor]

Skippy O

[@levon30]

Such an amazing ending!

[@joelciantar347]

Damn Hannibal got jumped in the back by cavalry that use to be his

[@sunnyjim1355]

That's what can happen when you don't give the respect to those who deserve it - so Hannibal deserved it.

[@klikner4142]

@@sunnyjim1355 bro what? He definitely gave respect, the only reason the Numidian Calvary switched sides was because Masinissa thought Rome had a better chance of winning, therefore granting him his throne.

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

That was so awesome thank you!

[@FormulaObscura]

Absolutely butchered most of the latin words, but great video anyway

[@fitrianhidayat]

Isn't it a dead language though

[@JapaneseStar34]

Great video! Thanks.

[@mikehipps1015]

Hannibal won three battles in a row using the same, at the time brilliant and innovative, tactics. Once someone realized what was going on, and lived to tell someone about it, he was crushed repeatedly. He was an innovator but definitely not a strategic genius.

[@NadDan1]

? wut lol

[@sicksideworldwide1599]

thank you for the history lesson very informative

[@thearchitect27]

Hannibal is the father of strategy!

[@neutronalchemist3241]

More Pyrrhus is. He wrote several books on military science, unfortunately all lost, on which the same Hannibal studied.

[@thdoom81]

@Legio XXI Rapax.nonsense.you only say that because you are italian and european and hate the fact that Hannibal from north africa taught Rome how to fight and gave them strategy...and he did it with a mercenary army....ALL the men you mentioned had citizen soldiers...big difference..fabius only mitigated and reduced barca effectiveness by using delaying tactics...he never "defeated" him as you put it..infact the romans thought his methods were cowardice ....Hannibal made Rome the empire they were...

[@liamjm9278]

Sun Tzu would like a word with you.

[@kikebautista2110]

@@liamjm9278 Difficult, when in reality we still dont now if he really existed, or the guy from whom that figure is based did indeed wrote all of that, well, the last part is confirmed, that manual was not written by one man.

[@alessiovona9944]

@@thdoom81 don't say nonsense

[@kenobi6257]

Just... the pronunciation hurts

[@thdoom81]

where is your video?

[@AuthenticDarren]

Excellent video.

[@FlashPointHx]

Thanks ! Epimethius is a great collaborator !

[@Retarior]

I hate that politically correct usage of BCE... For fawkes sake... it was and it will be BC till the end of times for me!

[@EpimetheusHistory]

I agree, it is kinda like saying one does not want to use the names on the days of the week because of their religious connotations. In the rest of my videos, I use BC AD...this one is a collaboration so I let him do whatever I don't overly care, but I do prefer BC AD...that is what pretty much what all my books say ...and CE reminds me of "Conformité Européene" symbol of packaging

[@Retarior]

Im glad to share same opinion.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

It doesn't matter, BCE-CE or BC-AC, hating these terms is kind of dumb. I used them freely when i want to and no amount of Conservative Correctness will change that. Personally, i prefer the Human Era calender myself.

[@Retarior]

Conservative correctness? It is the bloody corectness, political corectness that came up with this dumb, good for nothing change. BCE.... what a bullshit :-D. And what is the deffinition of a classic Era? History is based on continuity. What I hate the most and what I find the most dumb is the wish to change things in history... BBC should feel ashamed same goes for this BCE bullshit. I feel the same distaste for this as for the any other revolutionary calendar made by Lenin or crazy Frenchmen.

[@ysin9698]

I always found BC-AD a bit awkward and would prefer a more scientific dating system, in the same way that the metric system replaced other archaic metrics. Jesus Christ was also born and died twice: once as a man and again as a resurrected zombie, which complicates any dating system based around his time of birth or death.

[@davidcrouch7365]

Very good video. For anyone interested, Adrian Goldsworthy has an excellent book, The Punic Wars.

[@aleksandersokal5279]

However unlike Carthage, Rome as city and people survived to this day and had and still has great influence over the Christian/Western civilization. There is a reason Polish nobles called themselves followers of traditions of the Roman Republic and why Russian Empire called it self the third Rome, why the German dominated nation of Holy Roman Empire had Roman in it. Anyways the Roman Empire did not physically fall until 1453 A.D. and culture and tradition wise it lives until today. You can not say the same about Carthage.