Punic Wars from the Carthaginian Perspective | Animated History

[@TheArmchairHistorian]

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[@hejbuy]

Will you do a video about the Soviet Japanese border conflict

[@dannielcabacungan8348]

Do you watch oversimplefied im wondering why his not uploading😔😔😔

[@dannielcabacungan8348]

@@JWP51015 thank you for responding men

[@christianvincentcostanilla8428]

What is Punic wars

[@christianvincentcostanilla8428]

Make a video : what is Punic wars

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

"Roman conscript spam is bullshit and needs to be nerfed" - Hannibal, probably.

[@blockmasterscott]

Made me laugh out loud. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jayy7842]

Nazi Germany Agrees as well.

[@lordlucius1341]

“I knew I should’ve gotten some of those Germanic berserkers, those guys are almost unstoppable” -Hannibal definitely

[@Eskeletor_210]

Too many eastern spearman

[@Henrytorybot]

@@jayy7842 Nazi Germany rage quit due to US pay to win

[@CK-uu7ce]

Please do “Great Emu War from the perspective of the emus”

[@beesonbandit6639]

Agree

[@lampguy9084]

Emu comander: [enter Emu text here] 70 Emu soldiers: [enter Emu text here] The Australians: what are the saying? The translator: [enter Emu screams here]

[@gangamjr]

😂😂😂

[@naughtkris]

He will as soon as CA does a remaster of Total War:Down Under

[@lordgarion514]

The Emu's call it the slight inconvenience.

[@mattsavigny6084]

_"He plucked his own eye out to avoid dying of an infection."_ Respect.

[@Ali-fx6jd]

I watched this video with my dad and he was like damn

[@Atheneon]

I don't get it

[@feosty5526]

@@Atheneon he tore his own eye to avoid death from infection

[@polygonalfortress]

takes balls to do something drastic albeit life saving

[@ady57024]

Where u think the idea of Odin came from

[@darryljones3009]

Fun fact: In 1985 the mayors of Rome and Carthage signed a peace treaty to finally end the last Punic War.

[@gilgameschvonuruk4982]

need a source on that

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

That's amazing

[@joereimantz8185]

1985??? what???

[@joshuagamingmaybe8948]

Its a symbolic peacef treaty lol

[@wezzuh2482]

I heard that the mayors of Sparta and Athens did the same in like... 2006 or something

[@hashirmuhammad4731]

It is kinda ironic that the Romans burned Carthage but then Caesar was the one who rebuilt it.

[@kemalkaraboga3872]

Caesar was a guy of vision

[@razr-x9666]

@@kemalkaraboga3872 didnt he also ordet the burning of the Library of Alexanderia

[@kemalkaraboga3872]

@@razr-x9666 dude come on, he burned Egyptian ships, fire spread to Library, not intentional

[@nebsam7137]

@@kemalkaraboga3872 agreed he was not at fault it was an accident and a majority of the library was intact but it would not be for long *cough Christians cough(this is not intended to offend any Christians it is a joke)

[@ziedmelayah2670]

@@nebsam7137 But real facts . Their superstitious and closed religion and mentality are the only reason we lost a big part of humanity's history Forever.

[@imperatorcaesaraugustuspri5319]

Fun fact: elephants were geven wine to be more agressive

[@jonbaxter2254]

Elephants drink booze in the wild to get drunk, so not far off

[@acatwithafancyhat5782]

Yo typo: geven

[@m.hughmungus121]

Maybe I am an elephant ...

[@matthewhaynes6667]

Relatable

[@c0nstantin86]

I thought they ware given pot to smoke to better pogo their way through the crowd

[@SandRhomanHistory]

Well, well, well, the Armchair is covering ancient history again. Love to see it Griffin!

[@fidelklckap1821]

My man!

[@2Links]

Love your videos as well!

[@justme6094]

Ihr sind super.

[@marcus4046]

still want furniture history.

[@freezinginferno2106]

He has to, KZbin demontizes any modern conflicts

[@gnewsome]

Carthaginian Politics: "We are against kings and autocrats! We are a Republic of the people!" "Cool. So...can I vote?" "I dunno...How much money you got?"

[@borisradojkov7051]

People vote thereby making it a republic Doesn't mean everyone gets to vote

[@alexguymon7117]

To be fair that's how the US essentially was until 1856

[@alexseguin5245]

@@alexguymon7117 Essentially how the US still is today lol

[@alexguymon7117]

@Garviel Loken sure thing Jefferson Davis

[@Atomic866]

Rome is essentially the same with the rich Romans having more influence in elections

[@vidanristic]

Fun fact: After being exiled Hannibal went to the seleucid empire and was a general during the Roman-Seleucid war.

[@avanti392]

That guy was fucking metal

[@hbg5942]

its real ??

[@hbg5942]

is that what really happened ?

[@vidanristic]

@@hbg5942 yes

[@hbg5942]

@@vidanristic and what happened to him ? , why he was absent in history after that , and no one knew nothing about him anymore ? it was his choice to contiue living like an unknown figure ?

[@Fersis00]

As a Tunisian, it really hurts to watch how Hannibal's early outstanding victories were in vain and how the romans managed to flip the table. But great video, as usual!

[@yassinemraihi5530]

As a tunisian can relate to that Also i remeber when we studied about it everyone in middle school hated rome like they were literal devils

[@billaros1338]

No offense but aren't modern day Tunisians mostly Berbers and Arabs? How are they related to ancient Carthagenians, who were Phoenicians?

[@hamzahammami22]

@@billaros1338 the carthaginians were a mix of phoenicians and berbers, arabs make about 3℅ of tunisians which means iran have more at arabs than us

[@rhythmicmusicswap4173]

In Italy punic wars are not neglected, nor the capability of Hannibal. In roman culture the stronger was your enemy, more important was victory, so Hannibal is always give respect here during.

[@jonkore2024]

They were Canaanites relocated to the northwest of Africa to get out of the crossroads of warring

[@Robbstark2024]

Friend: Who was the Roman commander who fought Carthage? Me: do you remember his name? Friend: I think he was called Scipio Me: do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

[@luckyassassin1]

Scipio africanus

[@2Links]

He asks you about his name and you answer: "do you remember his name?" lmao

[@monsieur1936]

*PUBLIUS* *CORNELIUS* *SCIPIO* *AFRICANUS*

[@luckyassassin1]

@@monsieur1936 yes, one of the most Roman names ever

[@praeposter]

@@luckyassassin1 there were three Scipio generals who fought Carthage: Publius Cornelius Scipio (the Elder), Scipio Africanus (his son), and Scipio Aemilianus.

[@jonbaxter2254]

It infuriates me how Hannibal was treated by his own people. During and after the war, he was given almost no help.

[@THATotherGUY415]

IT infuriates me more that this happens far too often in history.

[@flaviusbelisarius932]

@@THATotherGUY415 Ave Caesar!

[@jonbaxter2254]

@@THATotherGUY415 From the top of my head, Admiral Yi and Khalid Ibn-al walid all fit the chategory. Some people have too much pride and would rather everyone fail than them not succeeding

[@loyalpiper]

@@THATotherGUY415 Napoleon's Marshall's were notorious for it.

[@excessiveone9952]

Mostly cause of the pro peace faction being in control

[@banatul6367]

The Rome Total War OST in the credits was on spot

[@АлиМагомедов-я8э]

Some of the best soundtrack in the whole total war series

[@ssj3gotenks589]

The best song on that soundtrack is divinitus

[@geraintthomas4343]

Throughout the whole video in point of fact

[@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4]

I was really hoping that Griff would tell the story of a Roman general weeping as Carthage burned. Saying. "He feared it would happen to Rome one day"

[@dirckthedork-knight1201]

Foreshadowing in real life

[@joshuacondell1686]

And ironically it did in 410 a.d by Alaric. Then in 1453 against Constantinople, the "New Rome ".

[@zhouwu]

@@joshuacondell1686 Don't forget Nero, singing about the burning of Carthage while playing a musical instrument while Rome burnt down around him. And then he built his Domus Aureus or whatever. Stronzo!

[@shgalagalaa]

@@zhouwu Nero wasn’t even in rome when it burnt and some sources say he was leading the efforts of quelling the fire, rebuilt the city in a way that such a fire cant happen again on the same scale and let some of the people sleep on palace grounds because their homes burnt.

[@zhouwu]

@@shgalagalaa "Some sources". Sounds a bit vague. I could use "some sources" to say pretty much anything about anybody. That doesn't make it true. It certainly doesn't make it credible.

[@chrish3850]

Hannibal dismounting his war elephant and meeting the Roman general face to face gave me goosebumps. So much at stake, so much raw anger.

[@kristihenriques3281]

But also so much raw respect. I mean, if the two of them were willing to walk out into the middle of the field before the battle and have a discussion, they must've had at least some respect for each other. And like Griffin said, maybe in another time and another life, they could've called each other friend.

[@felixc.3444]

@@kristihenriques3281 If only :(

[@carlosquintela2950]

Hannibal had taken the consular ring from Emilius Paulus in Cannae. Paulus was Scipio Father in law. It is said that Hannibal promised Scipio to return the ring if he defeated him in Zama. After the battle, he sent an envoy with the ring to Scipio.

[@HighPriestFuneral]

This wasn't the last time the two would meet. Later when Hannibal was working as a mercenary for a king of the east, Scipio Africanus was an envoy from Rome and the two chatted a bit regarding their past, even engaging in a bit of wordplay. Part of Scipio's fall from grace may have been because he stood against Rome's desire to hunt down and kill Hannibal, who by this point was an old man working as a commander and advisor for a far-off king who wasn't of any real threat any longer.

[@Diego-lt4wm]

Hannibal respected Publius

[@matthewhuelsenbeck1330]

Honestly whoever’s in charge of Rome Remastered’s marketing deserves a raise. All my favorite channels have been sponsored by it.

[@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347]

Same! They’re just awesome!

[@jacobp.4593]

Too bad it is sorta crap.

[@matthewhuelsenbeck1330]

@@jacobp.4593 honestly agreed. Feels just as janky as it did back in the day. Rome II is where it’s at.

[@dillonhunt1720]

They removed the ability to purchase the old game from all platforms and now force people to buy the more expensive and unimpressive remastered version if you want to play it if you didn't already own it. Fans would much rather them just started making good games again...

[@fingusa]

If only they spent that PR money on actually making the Remastered version any good.

[@blockmasterscott]

Carthaginian fortune teller: “uh guys? We all know salt is bad for you, but I have a premonition that the Romans are gonna take it to a whole new level”.

[@alex_zetsu]

The odd thing is that the Roman province of Africa (a bit bigger than modern day Tunisia) became one of the three breadbaskets of the Roman Empire, making me think the salt thing was something added later to the story.

[@theyredistortingyourrhythm130]

Who's AWAKE in 2021?

[@DOSFS]

@@alex_zetsu Yeah, probably made up long after the war as salt in ancient times is expensive and raze the city to the ground (mostly) more than enough to set any city to nothing for centuries.

[@m.hughmungus121]

*freakin crosses the ALPS on an ELEPHANT* "That hannibal guy would be a decent naval commander" - Antiochus III (probably) Edit: Antiochus** lol

[@MFC343]

Good one:)

[@fidelklckap1821]

I see youre a man of culture as well

[@jasonlupo4117]

Pardon; I think you mean Antiochus III, though Hannibal did attempt to link up with Philip V of the Antigonid Dynasty during the Second Punic War.

[@villehookeneriksson3473]

@@jasonlupo4117 I have also mixed up Antigonus and Antiochus before so understandable mistake haha funnily enough Antigonus III died an early death just before the second punic war. Otherwise it might have had happened that Hannibal allied with Antigonus III instead of Philip V

[@-carthage7779]

by the way .. hannibal fought rome as a naval commander in the country that he was exiled to

[@hamzaayari8369]

Fun fact: in Tunisia, there’s still a city called Carthage, in which there’s a port called Amilcar, Carthage port is still there too, and so many Carthagian and Roman ruins, including cities, Beautiful scenes to see. Most Tunisian cities names are of Carthagian/Roman/Italian/Spanish origin. Good video that tells us a lot about our history.

[@simmetriad]

In Spain there is also a city called Carthage (formerly "New Carthage"). And there is a city in Colombia named after it.

[@XanthippusCarthage]

@@simmetriad this is called Qart Hadast or QRT-HDST Nova

[@ModernNCRph]

Came here from Oversimplified's Second Punic Wars. Classic dejavu, as this video was also recommended to me last year

[@SneakWeak]

This one is quite underwelming after watching oversimplifieds vidio.

[@shriaaravji]

coz that guy wont make a video

[@theslavicdoomerandfighter2631]

​If Hannibal used his tactical nuke, he would have won.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Nah, he wouldn't have cheated. He liked the fight.

[@CatsEyethePsycho]

What if he had a nuclear bomb?

[@DarkLizard-]

nah he should have just used 62842 tanks and 1028282832 infantry then he would most likely win cus nukes are cheating

[@winzyl9546]

What

[@zobblewobble1770]

Yes, but Ghandi would have used it as a cassus belli to launch a nuclear strike with his superior aresenal, allowing him to conquer Carthage and Rome in one fell swoop

[@Big007Boss]

A beautifully sad poetic part of history, all other documentaries tell the story mostly from the Roman side, making it a heroic story , rather than a sad demise.

[@krein6121]

It is done because Rome is what stood in the beginning of the western civilizations. How could you get any other perspective? Those are our cultural ancestors and there is nothing sad about the fall of Carthage - mainly, because the fall of any of the two would be an objective historical process that would determine the ONLY hegemony of the Mediterranean. It just so happened that it was Carthage that fell. If it would have been sad in both cases (which the fall of Rome would have been, as well, if it happened to be the result) - then there is nothing to regret. Hooray to objective historical processes!

[@Big007Boss]

To the victor goes the spoils of war.

[@TheMonkeystick]

@@krein6121 There is always a narrative tied to history. Even in your 'objective' comment, you lead with "...Rome is what stood in the beginning of the western civilizations. How could you get any other perspective?" 1.) "Rome is what stood in the beginning of western civilizations" is already a narrative claim, if not a very common one. Many western civilizations, such as the Irish, Scottish, Bretons, Scandinavians, and various Germans and Slavs defined themselves more in their opposition to Rome than as descendants of Rome. 2.) "How could you get any other perspective?" is handily ignoring that there exists parts of the world (indeed, most of the world) that do NOT view Rome as the heroic underdogs that developed their nation, but rather as foreign conquerors that snuffed them out. Some of these views go back to when Rome was still around (i.e. Semetic peoples who viewed Romans as conquerors since the day Roman troops entered their lands) to surprisingly modern (like Greek nationalists who viewed the moniker Roman as one of foreign subjugation of Greece.) I do agree that one can *strive* to be objective, and to recognize that viewing the result of a conflict so ancient and influential as the Punic Wars as either good or bad is in no way an objective view of history (or necessarily constructive). But that doesn't diminish the fact that there are narratives in history, and the common narrative around the objective facts of the Punic War is one of a glorious Roman triumph against all odds. Showing an opposing narrative, that of a slow, sad, Carthaginian demise at the hands of a dogged and (seemingly) treacherous enemy can be valuable. It can help challenge the non-objective narrative built around the Punic Wars. It's like you said: It would have been sad either way from *somebody's* point of view. But if we only ever hear the Roman point of view, then we forget that fact and treat it like some grand story of Roman conquest, rather than looking at it as it was: an important historical conflict with winners, and losers.

[@jurikurthambarskjelfir3533]

Rome won. It was heroic, the Romans were fighting a more powerful and skilled forced and still won. That is heroic, also not to mention they fought what seemed to be monsters (elephants) and still came out on top.

[@SuperMrHiggins]

There's a good book "Carthage must be destroyed" (quotations part of the title). It's a pretty balanced look at the whole history of relations between Rome and Carthage more from the c perspective.

[@awesomehpt8938]

Between armchair historian, invicta, kings and generals I have no time for anything else but history!

[@Kevin-ws6bl]

Don’t forget about TIK as well

[@L17_8]

Same , I should probably be studying instead though lol

[@Fierysaint1]

Try Syntagma too. They're better than all these guys, especially showing the overhead military strategy. They just need more videos. Bazbattles is good too.

[@jobjed]

Historia civilis...

[@Kronosaur0s]

Epic History TV’s Napoleon series HistoryMarche’s Hannibal series Are some of the best out there

[@Xaiff]

Random Holding Guard 1: "Hey, did you see something moving up there on the Ardennes?" Random Holding Guard 2: "Nah, must be just your imagination. Nothing is living up there."

[@rnglillian8081]

Honestly just the fact that their competent leader and commander of a father had nothing but good competent leaders and commanders for sons is impressive. Seems like the trend is always that the great leader dies and either has no competent heirs to their legacy or the lesser heirs sabotage the one good heir out of greed

[@elitely6748]

Armchair Historian is one of the few channels that goes in depth onto the most interesting parts of history. Thank you Mr. Griffin Johnson

[@herrerasyvovololeksandr2841]

how is punic wars underrated? dummy

[@SuperPythoon]

Punic Wars underrated? U must watch only this channel then LOL. Kings and Generals, HistoryMarch and even Invicta make videos about it... And its not even in depth. This is only general and with no details. If you would like to see this topic in detail, it would be like 4-5 h long... and its only about second Punic War. So pls.

[@elitely6748]

@@herrerasyvovololeksandr2841 lel I am

[@elitely6748]

@@herrerasyvovololeksandr2841 how'd u guess my gender's dummy lmfao

[@funnyman5254]

@@SuperPythoon don’t forget about Extra Credits. It’s not half as in depth as those you mentioned, but it still does better job of describing the details (in a concise and general way) of the actual people involved than this channel.

[@EuroNutellaMan]

Imagine being the guy that ordered to siege Messina unknowingly starting the chain of events that lead to the destruction of Carthage. EDIT: I know war would have happened anyways that's not my point.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Phyrrus was a madman too

[@sorcierenoire8651]

@@jonbaxter2254 declared war against the known world and suffering from his success.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Those dirty fucking Mamertines

[@AlbertBasedman]

@@sorcierenoire8651 literally

[@freedombro]

Its likely Carthage and Rome would have gone to war later as Carthage controlled the sea trade routes

[@enman3502]

While learning about the civil war my history teacher let me show the entire class this video only an hour after it was published. Didn't even care that I was on my phone.

[@-carthage7779]

you learn about carthage ? where are u from ?

[@adrianjezierski8093]

@@-carthage7779 most of the world learns about punic wars

[@-carthage7779]

@@adrianjezierski8093 that's awesome . Carthage is so underrated. greetings from tunisia !

[@tttccc3151]

@@adrianjezierski8093 canadian here, our history classes were terrible. we didn't even learn a eurocentric view of the big events eg stalingrad, bagration, etc. The option for ancient history was west n the world which wasn't that popular to begin with and even then didn't touch the punic wars. theres this movie called starship troopers which subbed in carthage with hiroshima simply because of how few people would get the reference makes me sad :(

[@jnonya7743]

@@adrianjezierski8093 You have a Very Eurocentric view if you think most of the world learns of the Punic wars 🤔

[@henrybricks2953]

Be Hannibal: -swore an oath of vengance to rome -become one of the best if not the best ancient general in the known world -Crosses the alps on winter with some elephants -killed more than 100 k able bodied roman soldier - **still loses cuz some guy name scipeepoo said no**

[@itarry4]

He didn't understand the Roman mentality and so didn't sack Rome thinking they'd do what had always happened till then and ask for a treaty undoing all the damage of the 1st war and making Carthage the big power. Unfortunately Rome was something different and refused to give up. Hannibal just couldn't get hus head around this and by the time he understood it was too late.

[@funnyjupiter4499]

@@itarry4 I personally think that Hannibal did not know that Rome itself was vulnerable because he had no idea where the rest of the Roman armies were or how strong the garrison was and shortage of engineer in his army most likely dissuade him from laying siege to major roman cities with strong defences. By the time he realised his mistake it whas to late.

[@LawlTwins]

@@funnyjupiter4499 Also his cavalry which was one of his best weapons with the hammer and anvil would be ineffective. It's such an interesting question, Could Hannibal have truly sacked Rome?

[@itarry4]

@@funnyjupiter4499 it might be or a bit of both. I used to believe the same as you but I've seen a few things lately that say theres record of his disbelief that they don't surrender and its known that before Rome it's what civilisations did. I mean take Carthage themselves as soon as a slight threat turned up they gave in. Its not hard to see with that as his example why Hannibal would think they'd want to talk. Also while I can accept that he might not have known what was going on in the Senate I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't know things like the amount of troops and how secure the city was. For example he knew he could fairly easily cut them from the coast and stop their supply.

[@funnyjupiter4499]

@@itarry4 We will never know the concrit truth of Hannibal's decision but it is very interesting to speculate, as you said it might have ben a combination of all of these thing we have listed or it might have ben for completely different resons whose information have been lost to us thanks to time.

[@zaboomafool1911]

I wish you also mentioned the kind of irony/strange revenge that was the Vandal Kingdom of Africa. Its capitol was in Carthage and the Vandals not only sacked Rome but destroyed a combined Eastern and Western Roman fleet sent to destroy them and raided the mediterranean with impunity.

[@zhouwu]

Until Belisarius took them down.

[@shanemize3775]

Extremely well done. Hannibal was an incredibly talented general and leader, who was repeatedly betrayed by his own people. His is a tragic story, actually. Great video, as always, Griffin!

[@rainvast8982]

Classic north Africans

[@bananabonzai]

Imagine if Carthage won the Punic Wars, European languages would be entirely different today.

[@jacobhargiss3839]

Europe itself would likely be entirely different. And the world for that matter.

[@td370]

@@jacobhargiss3839 this. Buddhism would even be different considering the fact it has Latin influence

[@gs043420]

If Carthage won I think the Celtic culture will dominate Europe more than the German culture.

[@saganaki_1]

@@gs043420 how so? not that i doubt it, but curious

[@blakejohnson5819]

We would also sacrifice babies

[@guidedbyreason3619]

I was a veteran of the 2nd Punic war. Still remember our hikes in the Alps. Loved the pizzas in Italy. We always had shitty ones back in my hometown Zama. Thanks to our trip to Rome, I got to taste fine wine and great food.

[@morisco56]

Hey, fellow punic wars veteran here!

[@Marcus280898]

Pizzas with no tomatoes though. How I wish I was born millennia later and could eat new world crops. :(

[@Skymaster.47]

I hated the damn Gauls who threw balls of dung at us when we crossed the Alps and descended down the Po Valley completely exhausted.

[@zhouwu]

@@Marcus280898 Are you sure you want pineapples on your pizzas?

[@michaeldohndelara2240]

Thanks for the service sir!

[@murica7095]

As a Tunisian learning about the Punic wars in middle school , I remember being so bitter about Rome winning despite the brilliance of Hannibal lmao , we all felt the same in class

[@conors4430]

In my opinion Hanniball was probably one of the most bad ass generals in history. March from Spain over the Alps, the scales of battles he won, the tactics he used, and the fact that he just strolled through Italy for 10 years with the Romans too terrified to take him on directly. It’s hard to imagine an army being so dominant for so long, virtually cut off from their supplies and their own homeland. I’m glad the Romans never caught him. He won that ultimate victory, they never got the one man they wanted more than anyone else

[@dingusdean1905]

Hannibal never fought Legionaries. The Romans hadn't adopted that system yet, instead using a three rank levy system of Hastati, Princupes and Triarii

[@fidhead1232]

A roman army could still be referred to as a legion during the republic

[@sosig6445]

It still was a legion the only difference is that later legion's subunits are not called maniples but cohorts and aren't divided into 3 categories but are completely uniform.

[@dingusdean1905]

​@@sosig6445 There was a difference in the tactics, equipment, army composition and training of the forces, which is why calling them a legion and leaving it at that can be a bit misleading. Yes, they were called legions, but today using the term legion conjures up an image of professional, full time soldiers clad in heavy armor, so it's important to make a distinction between the two.

[@thedude9024]

@@dingusdean1905 Name schematics. The Republican Pre Marian Army was probably the most experienced throughout the whole of Roman History. By the time of Marius, all of Italy, Sardinia and Corsica, Sicily, most of Spain, the southern coast of Gaul, North Africa (besides Egypt and modern Morocco), Greece and Asia Minor were effectively under Roman dominion in a time span of less than 200 years since the Pryhic conflict, that's a lot of war and diplomatic lessons to pass down the generations. How part time soldiers could accomplish this was due to effective domestic and international policies and laws, abundance of manpower and allies and an ego filed masculine spirit. Id say the days of the mid Republic were the Golden Years of the history of Rome. As soon as slave hoarding land hoarding became a major issue, you can start to see cracks in the Roman military, hence Marius. The pre Marius army faced some of the biggest threats to Rome, Italic federations, Gauls, Celtiberians, Greeks, Punics, Germans. Kudos to them.

[@revolutionishere]

@@dingusdean1905 Samurais didn't always fight with the samurai sword, sometimes they fought with spears or axes or the bow and arrow, they were still samurais. The same applies to the Roman Legion, they evolved and changed, that's what you're trying to say.

[@onlythetop5194]

The editing in this one is particularly good, I was glued to the screen from start to finish, well done armchair team

[@timmckee6340]

not gonna lie the shoutout to other history channels on KZbin, was pretty sweet. This is great man, makes me want to do the Hannibal at the Gates campaign in Rome 2.

[@bluestrife28]

I know I’m not the only one who still is in awe of Hannibal. It’s a name we knew as kids (and this was before Anthony Hopkins), even if we didn’t know why. It always just meant a brilliant and daring general. Thanks for your touch on this. I can’t hear enough about him.

[@hindumuninc]

When Hannibal left Italy you just know there were a lot of small Italian towns who had flipped sides who were suddenly like: "Well, we f@#$% up." And the Romans likely showed up and just said "Start counting." Traitors: "Why?" Roman: "Every tenth citizen." Traitors: "What? What happens to every tenth citizen?" Roman: (leans in menacingly) "Start. Counting." Traitors: (holding back tears) "One. Two..."

[@BasicLib]

This sounds like such a roman thing to do

[@lordhighkage7105]

YAY DECIMATION

[@mykelhedge7299]

I’m of the opinion that the vow ‘never be a friend to Rome’ is a misunderstanding. Carthage called their vassal states and tribes ‘friends’. Believe that the vow was less of a ‘destroy the Romans’ but more ‘never submit to Rome.’

[@agent2044]

The quality of these videos has gotten better with each post, keep up the awesome work

[@landong.8218]

The next video: "The Cavemen Wars from the Monke perspective"

[@fidelklckap1821]

Homo sapiens conquest from Homo erectus perpective

[@freddekl1102]

Like are you salty about ancient history video or what are you on about?

[@fidelklckap1821]

@@freddekl1102 he made a joke dude

[@freddekl1102]

@@fidelklckap1821 I'm not blind, but it definitely looks like guy above wanted in a snarky way disapprove of content not related to modern history

[@gabrieloscullo7486]

@@freddekl1102 WTF, was just a joke, no deep meanings in there

[@concept5631]

*>That feeling when the decision of a ruler of a single city-state in Sicily over 2,000 years ago has defined the entirety of human history since then.*

[@petrmiros9908]

It didnt. The war would have happened anyway and Rome would won, since Rome was a military machine and Carthage was a conglomerate of merchans.

[@Wolfen443]

I agree with Petr Miros, Roma could have attacked Carthage anyway, and probably won in the end, but it did not have to have such devastating results for Carthage and North Africa in the future .

[@petrmiros9908]

@B Whit Your maritime superpower and Rome actually fought a sea battle at Aegates, and Carthage lost decisively despite having numerical advantage...

[@petrmiros9908]

@B Whit Stop with those personal attacks, you are acting like a 3 years old. FYI I studied history at the university. Going backwards yes, I know sacred band, my favourite total war unit. Elephants are the worst war animal ever. In many, many, and even more battles they routed and smashed into their own lines, occassionally refused to attack at all. Having a pack of wolves is more useful then having an elephant core. My point on naval power - rome would eventually land in carthage, no way on earth how to prevent that, and since that moment all those ships from that huge cartaginian shipyard are no more than expensive floating jewels. Roman republic also had larger male population by about half a milion which is HUGE for that time and era, they could keep sending legions until carthage literally bleeds out. Peace out.

[@anon2427]

@B Whit by the third Punic war they were at the mercy of Rome

[@Louisianaball-fn6ij]

This guy is more oversimplified than Oversimplified today.

[@catman3321]

Ik right just have to wait another year for oversimplified

[@lordlucius1341]

The OG total war music has got me vibing in a testudo formation.

[@felixc.3444]

Nice one

[@mutedunknown2734]

This is probably the only time a Sponsorship actually made me want to get the game

[@Thomas.Wright]

Scipio had a counter for Hannibal's beasts. It was an Elf from Mirkwood with a bow. But according to the Dwarf, it still only counts as one.

[@kelsisco]

THE QUALITY. I feel like a criminal being able to watch this type of content for free

[@mattosullivan9687]

You just said "Under different circumstances they could have called each other friends." You just quoted Star Trek

[@sosig6445]

star trek isn't the source of the original quote.

[@mattosullivan9687]

@@sosig6445 Ok I was just referencing the Star Trek quote, can you advise as to your source. Thanks

[@darrenbutler9819]

18:28 Love the nod to K&Gs and Extra Credits.

[@cookingwithchefluc7173]

Griffin can you maybe do a video about life under the German occupation of Norway or of Denmark. The WW2 videos are always insane.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

18:30 it’s little bits like that is one of the reason why I love this channel.

[@Robert-rw5lm]

I always thought that in a weird way Carthage would have its revenge. With the Vandals using it as a springboard to invade Rome

[@hamzahammami22]

Not just that, the muslim aghlabid dynasty also sacked rome centuries later, and they were based in tunisia

[@aleale6277]

@@hamzahammami22 They reached the city's outskirts and were repelled.

[@ajmerthethy6724]

@@aleale6277 No they weren’t. Historical accounts verify that they sacked Rome. They obviously didn’t conquer it though.

[@medferhy2927]

" I'll either find a way or make one." HANNIBAL

[@m.sydneyvern2260]

18:26 Ok this is my favorite part of the whole video this image right here deserves to be part of history itself

[@barcacarthagobarcahannibal196]

Finally, our perspective including that of our elephants is out !!!! They will also be able to tell their drunk experiences at the Battle of Zama !!!

[@samueleandriolo4517]

Where you were defeated?

[@DiscontinuedChannel465]

The fact that this channel talks about EVERY single section of the earth is god tier 11/10

[@ThisisBarris]

Fille aînée and fille cadette mean eldest daughter and youngest daughter, respectively. I think you got your family tree from a French source Griff! Great video man. I really enjoy your videos on different perspectives of important events.

[@heatherjt79]

can you do more ancient civilization videos? Maybe one on Rome’s rise or maybe the Greek states? Also a video on the sacred band of Thebes would be very cool and I know other people also think so! Keep up the great work

[@briansedillo1379]

I thibk invicta or kings and generals already made a vid onthem

[@travisbarstow9279]

The last bane of independence before the rise of macidonia. It is a interesting story of fighting for and with your lover in battle though.

[@Fulmicoton3]

Everyone: proununces Scipione as "sheepione" The armchair historian: Skipione, take it or leave it

[@jasonlupo4117]

I did masters-level ancient history and have always heard it as "Skipionez". I guess it depends on your local transliteration and spoken dialect.

[@Fulmicoton3]

@@jasonlupo4117 In Highschool here in Italy we use the "ecclesiastic" pronunciation,which is the one used by Vativan State since his fundation (100 AC) and it differs a lot from the germanic pronunciation (the classic one),which is used by english-speaking countries

[@jasonlupo4117]

@@Fulmicoton3 I see; I'm glad you are able to trace back to the origin of the difference. The degradation of language may be a fact of life, but it is certainly an unfortunate one.

[@collectivisedlemon8487]

Great job on the video. Watching the artstyle animation and narration of this channel get better and better is like watching your son grow. The formats of “____ from ______ perspective” and “life in ______ occupied _____” shine out and have a lot of potential to work on because they deliver the unseen parts of history in an easily digestable format. Keep up the good work!

[@yolamontalvan9502]

Well in case you didn’t know, there is a city in Colombia with the name Carthage or in Spanish, *Cartagena.* It has beautiful beaches. It is very touristic place.

[@makinapacal]

The ghost of Carthage in the end revenged itself on Rome. In 439 C.E. the Vandals took Carthage where they established a kingdom and also reestablished Carthaginian Naval power. Their raids and wars with Rome weakened both the Western and Eastern Empires and in 455 C.E. a Vandal fleet and army pillaged Rome.

[@raidang]

Only to get swallowed into Eastern Roman Empire

[@tyrian_baal]

I recently have had a horrible weak, but seeing my favorite moment in history being shown here has lifted up my spirits considerably. Have I read multiple books and know everything about this? Yes, but these videos always bring this stuff to life

[@fritzvenezia9338]

The Scipio who commanded the siege of Carthage is victorious, but after he saw the Carthage in person, he wept as his army entered the gates. The senate ordered it to be destroyed, and he reluctantly followed, and wept as he saw the destruction that Rome delivered to Carthage. He also thought about how would Romans react if other nation did the same to his city.

[@oberstul1941]

Excellent episode, AH. I, too, loved RTW as I grew up so Divinitus at 26:45 simply hit like an elephant of nostalgia. Cheers!

[@linhhoang3636]

14:40 I love to hear that Rome: Total War drum beat again. Dang those iconic gaming soundtracks, bring back so much memory... Such game has nurtured my fascination for ancient warfare history at small and history as a whole at large

[@KelderPassos]

I've seen many videos on YT supported by the creators of Total War: Rome. However, you've been the ONLY ONES who managed to use the best contribuition this game could offer content creators: its fabulous soundtrack. Congratulations!

[@de7ail519]

Carthage is such an underrated empire, it’s such a shame it died being known only as the weaker Rome, that fell because of Rome. It’s my belief, if Hannibal marched on Rome Carthage would of won the second Punic war.

[@joevenespineli6389]

Nah, he couldn't overcome the city walls and he was hampered by the lack of support from his home state.

[@de7ail519]

@@joevenespineli6389 after all his victories there weren’t many soldiers to defend the walls, and even if there were they would have had 0 experience

[@ClassicCase]

@@de7ail519 or lose the war then and there in a fruitless assault. In foreign terrain it was too risky.

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@@de7ail519 The shock effect of marching on Rome directly after Cannae might have had an impact since their morale was very low after Cannae.

[@de7ail519]

@@ClassicCase the hole campaign in Italy was too risky and if you brought it up in most ancient armies they would of laughed in your face, if Rome didn’t fell the war would of ended in defeat regardless.

[@rtgshabs2317]

I’ve seen the classical history subject covered by all kinds of content creators. Kings and Generals, History Marsch, Flash Point History, History Civilis, Invicta - hell, even the comedic Dovahhatty. Yet, there’s something magical, immersive seeing it done by the Armchair Historian. Keep up the awesome work!

[@-carthage7779]

hannibal didn't need a description to his name such as " Alexander the great " only HANNIBAL BARCA puts his enemies in to fear !

[@bobbyhp26]

IKR

[@-carthage7779]

@Thxr مدامنا حنا بيدينا منعرفوش قيمة تاريخنا صاحبي متلومش على غيرك

[@CSovereign]

18:37 watching all these History KZbinrs analyze the map together truly warms my heart

[@Hadrexus]

5:48 it is worth noting that one of the key aspect of Carthaginian shipbuilding the Romans copied was the fact that Carthage's shipwrights marked the planks use in the construction with numbers and letters, each plank having its predetermined place in the hull, a sort of pre-fab shibuilding technique.

[@scotthenderson292]

It was pretty innovative. And helpful for the Roman engineers

[@ryanelliott71698]

God I wish there was a Punic Wars tv show. It would be epic!

[@azula7777]

yeah i hope netflix makes one

[@mafiousbj]

If you think the Germans and Napoleon had it rough in Russia, just imagine crossing the freaking Alps in ancient armor and sandals 2000 years earlier!! (And with a privateer army in a war you provoked ^^)

[@siriusk1453]

All failed because supplies got cut

[@timcahill4676]

I mean 30 million died on the eastern front in ww2 so I’m not sure they had it easy

[@monsieur1936]

Fall of Carthage is more emotional than Iron Man's martyrdom in the Avengers Endgame.

[@hamzahammami22]

As a tunisian, i must say yes

[@nebsam7137]

The reason it is more emotional is for the simple reason that is happened

[@monsieur1936]

@@nebsam7137 yes bro 😢

[@banmadabon]

@@hamzahammami22 Given the hordes of your fellow compatriots pushing heroin in Italian streets I'm amassing salt big time

[@hamzahammami22]

@@banmadabonOkay ?

[@JessZomb]

That bit with the navy and the Romans thinking outside of the box is brilliant.

[@youvebeengreeked]

Secretly, *EVERYONE’S* favourite part of history is Roman History. 🥰

[@ComradeArthur]

Not a secret!

[@DM-dy9bq]

Fact.

[@youvebeengreeked]

@BlewndziorMLKV ... ok?

[@prenus1350]

I like that "are you entertained" from the gladiator

[@Patrick3183]

Imagine if Carthage wasn’t destroyed and it grew and thrived into the AD era

[@Yellow.1844]

would've been nuts

[@banmadabon]

You would have been taught to take a dump outside of your house by your wily tunisian friend and not to eat with the left hand because you wipe with that one...

[@LegioXXI]

I doubt Carthage would have lasted as long as the romans did. Carthage didn't assimilate, the didnt "carthagized" their subjects. Only a very small core of their army even consisted of actual carthagian citizens. And without cultural unification under one law, the punic empire would break over time in the same way as the Persian satrapies broke. One reason for Romes success was that they gave citizinship not just to people of the city of Rome, but whole Italy and later, all of their Empire. This drastically increased their manpool and allowed them to field huge amounts of troops, allowing them even to endure huge losses like Cannae, the Teutoburg forest and so on. Carthage on the other hand relied too much on client states and mercenaries whith questionable loyalty. I mean, the Nubians basically instantly betrayed them as soon as Scipio made a better offer. Romes success was not just because of their strong military, it was because of their way how they ruled and how they assimilated other people into their Empire. And here, Carthage really lacked behind and was stuck in the already failing system of satrapies.

[@jerkanerm]

that is one hell of an imagination you have

[@Marcus280898]

Legio Rapax While I agree with you on Rome's success in assimilating the peoples it conquered, at the time of the Punic Wars most of the peoples of Italy were not Roman citizens, they weren't granted citizenship until the Social War of 91-87 B.C. As shown in the video many of Rome's southern Italian allies broke their alliance with Rome as a consequence of Hannibal's successes in Italy. Personally I think the Romans got very lucky that the Carthaginian Senate didn't vote to reinforce Hannibal in Italy and that Rome's remaining allies didn't betray them when they were at their lowest point after Cannae.

[@ElBreadini]

Julius Caesar’s campaigns would be great! I think that everyone only really knows about his death but not about what he did or why they assassinated him :D

[@jonbaxter2254]

Caesar and Hannibal would be best buds in the afterlife I bet

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

Alexander also

[@darrenbutler9819]

Don't know your thoughts about reading, but look up Ben Kane's "the forgotten Legion" is a "fiction" book series that takes place around, during and after Caesars campaigns till his assassination, though without to much spoilers, he plays a big part in the books but is not the main character, they are fictional but Ben works to put in as much historical accuracy into the politics, battles, etc.

[@jeffreymonsell659]

Historia Civilis has a pretty great, in-depth series about Caesar's campaigns in Gaul (and the aftermath). It's still ongoing, with the most recent episode being about the collapse of the (third?) Triumvirate between Mark Antony and Octavian.

[@carlosquintela2950]

@@jonbaxter2254 After several years, Scipio and Hannibal met again. Scipio asked him, what were its top 3 generals in history. He said: Alexander, Pirro and himself. Scipio then asked, how would the rank be if he hadn't defeated the man in Zama. Hannibal answered that he would have been the top one, like recognizing that Scipio was even superior to Alexander by having defeated him.

[@spartanwolf]

After his victory at Cannae, Hannibal was approached by one of his generals who urged him to attack Rome, after refusing, the general responded. "Hannibal, you know how to attain victory, but you do not know how to wield it." Maharbal 245- Unknown

[@cpt.honklerof3rdkekistania400]

Syracuse: exists Carthage: and i took that personally

[@patrickholt2270]

Make Carthage Great Again.

[@BaioWithMayo]

This has to be one of your best videos so far, I am blown away by this one and it is always worth the wait!

[@gierhardtsloan8502]

18:28 that feeling when you’re subscribed to every channel and then some.

[@epw6679]

Been following this channel for a while now and was always astounded by its high production quality for such a small channel. So glad you guys are getting the recognitions you deserve

[@mattgrandich3977]

Nice Kings and Generals reference (and more) at 18:30. Glad you got Total War: Rome remastered, it’s a classic game!

[@YasserMaghribi]

That ... That was an epic video. Nothing to add.

[@Gloster3]

eat it oversimpelfied i don't need to wait for anthor year

[@silversmith0114]

That music at the end broke my heart man damn, great video.

[@nickoljosue729]

Great video! I love Cartagean history of almost, defeating Rome. And Anibal legendary genious.

[@SaikaLiao]

There’s nothing more badass than War Elephants

[@furkangunduz7109]

phalanx formation

[@senatuspopulusqueromanus3011]

Hey! The graphic novel that Lloyd (Lindybeige) promised us years ago!!!!

[@banmadabon]

Lindy is a buffoon. His Brit bias is unbearable

[@tyrian_baal]

12:20 Should be noted that Saguntum laid in Carthage's area of control below the Ebro, but it was still considered Rome's ally nonetheless

[@TheTablePaper]

There are several mistakes in this video but somehow all these mistakes lead to the idea that these were defensive wars from Rome's perspective. It was the Romans who declared war against Carthage before the siege on Messina. Saguntum wasn't even a Roman ally until after Carthage already was expanding into Iberia. Plus the fact that like you said the city was in the area Rome agreed was Carthaginian influence. Also the second Punic war didn't start because the Carthaginian senate all decided on war. The Carthaginian response to Fabius' ultimatum of "peace or war" was: "you decide" to which the Carthaginian senate chanted "we accept it"

[@tyrian_baal]

@@TheTablePaper Oh no there was a lot of mistakes in this video, but im just happy to see it represented

[@Lev-f4i]

The thing is, 4 years prior to the Punic War, the Saguntum's government was changed to Roman, and therefore Saguntum became a Roman ally

[@olin512]

I like how the maps that display the battle tactics and soldiers changed to resemble a Rome Total War battle now lol, very nice addition.

[@KoussayHabibi]

I am from Tunisia Carthage before all this WE studied in History class and we studied afriquia too

[@paulisaperson0516]

18:28 GAH HE JUST MENTIONED HISTORIA CIVILUS I CAME