Episode 20 - Confronting Billionaire CEO of Robinhood | Trillionaire Mindset

[@rishyrish6508]

By far still the best Christian podcast out there

[@seanli6339]

huh?

[@SLOSurfer11]

@@seanli6339 watch the episode

[@dariusg7044]

Honestly it's kinda disrespectful

[@ScrubF4ther]

Amen

[@DonSheladio]

I can just tell Emil has been waiting his whole fucking life to absolutely drill a billionaire about their controversy. And he did a great job. Love you Emil. I think Emil took the other half of Ben's tab haha dude was animated :)

[@n.k.pierro]

lawyer emil really came out this episode i need to see them lay into more people like this

[@geminaljane]

absolutely agree it was so fun to see him go in on him

[@Maazin5]

*900-millionaire

[@alanaae]

yeah he seems so exited to the point he keeps interrupting lol love their banter tho

[@GrossPoker]

Overall like the show but bruh let this man speak. Call it excitement but if this podcast’s goal is a trillion-are mindset Vlads thoughts are more valuable - we can hear your opinion whenever, but he’s the guest. Overall good questions but they don’t get answered because y’all didn’t let the man speak. Emil very antagonistic - didn’t see any productivity with this here, Vlad seemed genuine

[@calebwilford]

Emil's water bottle facing the camera "Sounds like bullshit to me" during this interview is not lost on me

[@johnvorih5201]

Glad I am not the only one who saw this.

[@yadsewnde]

Hilarious. They wouldn't let that man legalese his way out of anything lol "yeah yeah yeah but what do YOU think bc..."

[@Giavekz]

I LOVED IT

[@jonas_security_kolinski]

by the way, in a later episode Emil mentioned that this was a coincidence and not planned.

[@brandoncrom8566]

Debating Emil would be the most bone rattling experience ever

[@Pr0xRESOLUTE]

I wanna be on his good side all the time

[@alexandriamahoneyy24687]

word. you don't wanna debate Emil, and don't wanna get roasted by noel lol.

[@jawndissimo9319]

Emil was really hammering him at times with questions and counter arguments from the viewpoint of the average trader and not kissing ass the whole time like most interviewers. Love it, GG dude

[@e.v.9201]

There is a difference between asking tough questions respectfully and being straight up rude

[@AlmondTripod]

@@e.v.9201 are you saying emil was being rude?

[@e.v.9201]

@@oight I'm not defending anybody! I don't even know who that guy is to be honest lol but It was soo uncomfortable to watch..

[@AlmondTripod]

@@e.v.9201 he is the CEO of Robinhood, a trading app. His company has done some shady stuff. I think emil was just conveying frustrations that many regular people have with him. The guy was deflecting valid criticism, your comment was pretty much defending him and yet you say you know nothing about him

[@jawndissimo9319]

@@oight based

[@bruno0_u]

This is what I wanted from Codel when they spoke with Gary V, I'm glad we have these hero trillionaires on the side of us working class

[@natalieburt3684]

yes

[@xp9582]

did u just refer to them as codel

[@josefleigh]

that's cool that Adam Driver knows so much about Robinhood

[@johngoldspink5344]

Man this was great they really asked him tough questions rather than just being agreeable

[@SonOfThor69]

Such a difference to Cody and Noel having Gary V on their pod. That one was disappointing for sure

[@funlilguy]

Yeah you can Emil fuckin hated him

[@CheersMyDudes]

@@SonOfThor69 I gave up watching that within a minute or two. The Trill boys handled this pretty well imo

[@slopcrusher3482]

@@SonOfThor69 I stopped watching the TMG podcast after that. Gary Vee spouts bullshit about how you can make it when he himself came from wealth. It’s super disingenuous to try and hide that mommy and daddy were REALLY well off. You’ve got a supports the majority of people have and you’re not talking about it. Gary Vee came on and they didn’t ask him any hard questions even though they had made fun of him and disliked him for months leading up to it. I still like TMG studio’s other productions, but that really put me off of the original podcast. You can’t trash someone for months and then be spineless when that person comes on your podcast. I have a Massive amount of respect for Emil now for grilling him during this podcast instead of just accepting the answers.

[@callmesubby]

@@slopcrusher3482 dude tmg is a mostly comedic podcast, sure they could have done an actual argumentative interview with the guy but that’s not what they’re about at all. Also the people who actually listen to Gary vee are so far gone there’s no hope for them, Cody and Noel know that trying to spark controversy with the guy would just be a bad episode. Obviously they have no chance on derailing his entire shtick. The internet is a weird place, taking everything on it 100% seriously will make you brain dead, appreciate the entertainment and leave it be

[@PlatinumWoW]

I thought this was going to be a Liver King-esque episode where they had a fake guest but god damn they did it

[@TheTanglyHen1026]

Ik I thought it would be a gag

[@woopigsooie93]

Wait that wasn’t liver king?

[@OGNord]

Wait what the fuck my favorite wow KZbin watches my favorite money podcasters?

[@cipherhunt3063]

… that wasn’t liver king?

[@giannimaisano-torres1833]

???

[@joshshak]

Emil really flexing those lawyer muscles by constantly putting the conversation back on track when Vlad is altering the question as he answers it

[@yadsewnde]

Loved to see it as a viewer who was thinking "that's not what was asked but- ok"

[@maczafarana8989]

This was a great episode. Still had all the goofiness, but loved the questioning. Also can't believe this young podcast just interviewed the CEO of an 11B dollar company.

[@itsmebk6820]

Not 11B for long 🤣

[@oYSpongebobYo]

A soon to be 5 billion dollar company

[@seanli6339]

Robinhood is a dying company, hence the stock running straight into the ground since IPO. All this is is PR and damage control, trying to convince people to use them again.

[@rompdawgmatist7004]

YES BOYS. you laid it on him in a very intelligent and thought provoking way. you stood your ground and asked fantastic questions but also kept it hilarious. honestly, kudos to Vlad as well. you guys went in on him and he was pretty unwavering in his conviction on his mission for the company. best episode yet

[@Klyrics39]

Oootttt try

[@Cool74448]

Both sides won

[@johncurtis6815]

Vlad looked terrible and completely unrelatable.

[@Justin-fq8dt]

@@johncurtis6815 What did you expect him to say? You may not want to believe this, but even companies like robinhood are made up of human beings. I promise you there are plenty of them that actually care about the company mission even though the company is a dumpster fire. He looks relatable to anybody who has worked at a start up. Super political and annoying, but relatable.

[@yadsewnde]

@@johncurtis6815 I think he looked fine (has great hair - no grey hair) and that it is hard for a CEO to be relatable seeing as most ppl aren't and if any viewers are they're definitely not of companies in Robinhoods position. He seems pretty ok as far as his elk of ppl go. Excited to see what his business does in the future but more excited for the next ep with these boys

[@hafsahkhan16]

Dang Emil’s inner lawyer creeping out.

[@lilmissemi]

fr

[@yadsewnde]

@@lilmissemi are you related to Emil? And are there other emi alphabets in you twos family, like an emia and emi b ?

[@livalil]

as soon as ben said “we are a christian podcast” and emil stayed dead serious, i knew this episode was gonna be good

[@hockeycards12]

Absolute homerun of an episode guys - the perfect balance between letting Vlad explain his points, pushing back on aspects you didn't agree with, and still keeping it light and fun - looking forward to the future guests that you guys will have on

[@DarkMuj]

Great assessment Joey D! In fact, I’d say you made an absolute homerun of a comment

[@YvngFry]

Lmao idk if vlad thought it was all light and fun but good podcast

[@benmgoldberg]

@@YvngFry good he should feel the pressure

[@calvin8181]

it’s so much funnier to watch this knowing that ben is on acid this whole time 😂

[@alebubu101]

Come back and watch this again. Watching this for the second time, with some perspective… this is literally the best ~hour of comedy I’ve ever seen. First time around, for some fucking reason, I thought these degens knew each other. Turns out this is just good old fashioned bullying… and when it’s the boy from Bulgaria, I apparently have a very high tolerance.👌 👍 Get/continued to get fukd Bulgaria boy.

[@JoseGarcia-vz9ux]

Ready for Ben and Emil to put their whole trillionairussy into this ep.

[@bodoque_csm]

ahahahah

[@VMYeahVN]

Omg lol

[@yadsewnde]

This is the type of comment this podcasts audience is for

[@Web_In_Front]

Ahahahahahaha🎉

[@terezaholubekova6851]

I cannot imagine my week without this podcast anymore

[@samvv5982]

These are the episodes where you see the true balance of the show. Ben has the insight and Emil has the heart and understanding of what people really are feeling. This episode felt like underdogs winning the super bowl. Great job guys!

[@alectaylor4273]

Emil doesn't just have the heart but he also has the almost-a-lawyer skills to pick apart an argument and debate hard while Ben is able to provide the technical insights that Emil doesn't have, a good dynamic duo!

[@CSpottsGaming]

@@alectaylor4273 Emil is a lawyer in every sense except practicing, right? I'm too lazy to go back and look but I think on a previous episode he said he completed law school and passed the BAR exam.

[@alectaylor4273]

@@CSpottsGaming yeah he definitely did say he passed the BAR test, but I'm not American so don't really know what that means, does that mean he's legally able to practice?

[@allthingsfrogs]

Not going to lie, I didn’t think they were actually going to get him on the pod. I thought it was some elaborate bit where the joke was them treating it seriously like it would actually happen when it wouldn’t

[@AyMTor]

No one is allowed to give Emil shit for being too passive ever again lmaoo

[@gregbarbosa0]

Emil went for the jugular this episode. Need that fire every interview.

[@victoriachauvin4986]

i really loved how they refused to accept vlad’s non-answers, they really kept it entertaining while still keeping it real

[@novectus9933]

Retroactively coming back now that I know Ben was on LSD for this pod to say that it explains so much. Great job fellas.

[@SugarBxmb]

this dude saw a lighthearted financial podcast and thought this was the perfect pr stunt. little did he know he was gonna get grilled harder than the house committee on financial services

[@toobad8657]

I can't see this any other way. His PR team was like "oh, this little finance podcast could help your image among that community". Then Emil just goes AT him.

[@David-ft9cj]

Im proud of the boys getting him on and actually doing a interview with hard hitting questions

[@erinm14]

You guys did a really great job with this. Major props for pushing back and creating a critical, fair dialogue. Looking forward to future interviews you’ll do! (also…loved seeing lawyer Emil jump out! He was on x-games modeeee)

[@joecota2644]

Definitely in Xmode

[@newsshorts7972]

Not mid

[@ExtremeEuphoria32]

Dude I’m glad this was a REAL talk with someone and their controversy not giving them a platform to make them look good like most podcasts. I appreciate you guys . Amazing job

[@henryreyes915]

Agreed!!!

[@acuna312]

Emil was giving big Ben energy this episode

[@yadsewnde]

That's one of my favourite clocks. I like when it gets destroyed in film

[@bennettloni1630]

Every time they bring on a guest it feels like Eric Andre levels of un-comfortability for them

[@bengiordano2187]

I love how Emil had his “sounds like bullshit to me” sticker facing the camera

[@rory8438]

Really great ep from both the boys, especially Emil, hit him with really challenging questions and pushed for answers. Clearly not what Vlad expected coming into the pod thinking he could preach his misguided messiah mission and getting hit with this. Brilliant contrast to the Graham Stephen episode which it’s clear you learnt a lot from the feedback

[@impossibletangerine9785]

YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY FOR THIS this man did not expect this im screaming RESPECT!!

[@boom2boom]

same what an episode

[@undefinedobjective]

Honestly so satisfying to see such a well executed interview from these guys. The first 20-30 minutes of joking around really seemed to put Vlad on the back foot when Emil started to come in with much heavier hitting questions. Super impressive stuff.

[@ArnoldNeverSoft]

This was such a flop, vlad didn’t get a chance to expand his thoughts without being interrupted by two stuttering nervous idiots trying to get a “a gotchu moment”

[@boom2boom]

@@ArnoldNeverSoft he was saying fluff half the time to save face and wasted time dodging questions

[@noahbarton2809]

@@ArnoldNeverSoft vlad was also very clearly nervous. They created a discussion. I actually feel that the main problem isn't them trying to get a gotcha moment. The problem is Vlad thinking he's going to be got. He's being too careful. Of course there are legal and pr things that make it so he has certain things he shouldn't say but I feel he really held a lot back.

[@ArnoldNeverSoft]

@@noahbarton2809 the hosts should have done a better job addressing the issues of Robinhood. It felt more like an interrogation rather than a discussion.

[@Itzskimpy]

@@ArnoldNeverSoft he was rambling on about nothing and not even getting around to answering their questions. It’s about time these corporate shitheads actually get asked real questions and not allowed to give non answers, they do it all the time cos interviewers have gone soft. Great to see Ben and Emil properly put him in his place

[@noaag]

54:45 look at that winning smile from ben to emil, i can feel the love thru my screen

[@Lectrixquids]

As someone who didn't really follow the Robin Hood stuff, I was shocked at how confrontational this interview was compared to the last, but it was still very professional and fair. 10/10

[@ghou5650]

Lawyer Emil on full show and I couldn’t be more satisfied

[@Kevin702]

Emil did his Vlad research & called Vlad out on him doing business in bad faith. The FINRA fine portion was so hard to watch. Vlad crying & throwing up tonight having nightmares of daddy Emil.

[@blackforesthamsandwich2310]

Emil: People are getting fucked over Vlad: ✨Democracy✨

[@CoreyHart13]

Knowing one of the hosts is on acid makes this so much better lol

[@partlydave2]

He had no idea what he was getting into lol. Respect for him taking it all tho. And respect to Ben and Emil for laying it all out there and roasting him.

[@andrewjacobson7150]

Would love an episode on index funds, 401Ks, and Roths, similar to the credit card episode to help young people do things smarter. Slow growth kind of stuff

[@Gundogcox24]

Not sure what their demographic is but having an ep entirely dedicated to 401Ks or Roth would cause all but American viewers to tune out. Would love more educational episodes about fundamental finance stuff like in the early episodes though

[@st3foto]

Damn, this was one of the best eps. Poor guy tho, he was just trying to save face and Ben and Em just grilled him for 1.5h. I'd love to see more guests. Peter Schiff maybe?

[@boom2boom]

holy shit i know he was so uncomfortable

[@st3foto]

@@boom2boom yeah, it's because he was so dishonest - what's your wish? - everybody to be an investor. yeah sure, my guy. sure.

[@Magsterzb]

Jim Cramer. I love seeing that weasel squirm

[@johncurtis6815]

Poor guy? Haha. Yes, I feel terrible for a sociapathic scumbag who actively colluded with hedge funds to fuck over retail investors. I don’t know how I will sleep at night 😂 . Vlad is doing his farewell tour while Robinhoods stock continues to drive further into the ground.

[@yadsewnde]

At least he got the hat

[@MikeyBrisson]

Man you guys are just getting better n better. This was great. I loved how unapologetic Emil was and had his torso turned to face Vlad. Gave more of an interrigation feeling than an interview, but that's what was needed. Also, I see what you did there with the sticker facing the camera Emil.

[@enriquefjvm9020]

I didn’t know I could relate with Tenev. As someone who lived in Venezuela with hyperinflation I also saw people buying whiskey to hold the currency value and using the chicken price as an economical indicator instead of gas as people do here in the US. After experiencing that from a young age my interest in economics rise to help the average person how to money works. I hope build a finance career in a future to help others as trillionaire mindset is doing with me.

[@bridgetpopham4388]

Love that you guys stood your ground during this interview

[@garrettgolightly]

I love when podcast host don't just butter up guests, especially in the finance space. 10/10 better than the Graham ep

[@drizzyenemy4882]

This Vlad man really dodging any negatives of his company. "We tried our best and did a good job given the circumstances". He didn't directly answer half of their questions lmao

[@johnvorih5201]

When you are CEO of a company it is impossible to. He was much more open than many by even coming into the show.

[@bflavasonthetrack]

Yeah the general feel was like a White House press conference. It was edgy and chaotic at best. Ben and Emile did a good job of making him extremely uncomfortable. They should take tips from someone like Sean Evans, make the guest feel comfortable enough to answer honestly through opened ended questions rather than an inquisition

[@welikerosafloyd]

@@bflavasonthetrack Huh, actually interesting take. Do you think they could've opened him up more in that way? I mean, people like Vlad are good at taking advantage of open ended questions I think. What do you mean exactly?

[@CheersMyDudes]

Oof, that was a good one! Glad they really tried to ask the difficult questions. Unfortunately he had an unwavering rhetoric - like some kind of politician, as Emil pointed out. Somehow I don’t think he’ll be coming back soon! Definitely put him in a difficult spot with the questions about FINRA. Can’t wait for when Vlad quits and they can claim it was their idea!

[@chobono]

I love how the set changes from their cubicles/desks to a meeting room when they have a CEO guest 😂

[@akirebara]

Boys, I'm so proud of you. You DID NOT go easy on him. Wow. Love you and the entire Trill staff.

[@devons.3481]

you boys promised to make up for the graham episode and by golly you did it! lots of cathartic questioning, and i love how prepared you came in to pull up research on vlad and robinhood. excellent blend of thoughtful conversation, goofy humor, and that classic Ben & Emil Chemistry that we love so much

[@joeymarchesi]

Goddamn, this was almost hard to watch man! You can tell Emil fucking hates him. At least, that he can see right through him! 😂 That was wild. Just like one of the other comments had said, kudos to Vlad for dishing it like no other and mad respect to Ben & Emil for their pure guts. Hahaha, this could really blow up the podcast.

[@johncurtis6815]

Who doesn’t hate Vlad and Robinhood? The epitome of dog shit.

[@wolvw]

The boys were on fire today, nicely played gents!

[@scubawithatuba]

Emil went ALL IN on Vlad and I love it!

[@Rygeritan]

Emil was incredibly entertaining on this one. I was laughing so hard. Thanks for being the good cop Ben

[@chunli_enthusiast]

I watched the TMG with ben and Emil before I watched this and I thought it was going to be mostly jokes and funny bits but I am pleasantly surprised about how pointed these questions are. They wouldn’t let him not answer certain questions and I think that’s awesome, good journalism boys

[@christianwelsh6994]

“I can’t say kill your parents.” “You literally just did.”

[@doctorstinky2990]

The pressures him at every second, there was moments it was hard to watch where vlad couldn’t answer the questions and moments it was enjoyable and they were having fun. A great podcast, fair play for calling him out on his past mistakes

[@klay6034]

This is the best podcast on the internet. Hands down.

[@RegulationRaptor]

Emile is on fire this episode, damn

[@AvecAmisUS]

The prayer at the beginning was hilarious hahaha

[@callmesubby]

1:22:56 Emil is so proud of himself for that sticker lol

[@JamWellMoto]

Glad you guys brought him on and persisted in uncomfortable questions. Best/ most informational episode yet!

[@oliviagauvin8894]

this episode was fantastic. i think one of the hardest parts of interviews with big baby billionaires is knowing what are their choreographed charisma lines, and how to push the conversation deeper when they try to give you throwaway answers. ben and emil didn’t even give this man the time of day!!! they pushed everything he said and had fucking fantastic follow up questions!

[@nicholaskorff6660]

Damn this was great- I really didn’t expect you guys to press him so hard. Really stuck to the questions too which I can’t imagine was easy with a guy who’s probably had media training

[@shilogaska5101]

Congressional training even

[@Anthony-mp7lt]

ben and emil are just so smooth in conversation, and are really great at hosting

[@michaelrogers6008]

I love Emil more and more. I think we have the same sentiment towards the corporates companies.

[@amicrzy8073]

I love how that the Hat is Red Black and White. Like GameStop colors hahahha

[@newshirrt]

I honestly considered skipping this episode ‘cause I thought it’d be a repeat of the one with the landlord guy or whatever--but it wasn’t! I love how both of you conducted the interview and weren’t afraid to call him out on his bs. Rly nice how you guys pushed for truth in a respectful manner and how both of you spoke with facts when the guy was deviating from what you were asking him. Special kudos to Emil for being extra passionate during this whole thing.

[@jd2rs]

As glad as I am that Ben and Emil asked Vlad the tough questions, I am disappointed with the lack of time they gave him to respond to the tough questions. Patience is a good thing in an interview sometimes, it doesn’t have to all be dropping the next bomb. Overall, a decent episode, and I wouldn’t be taking the time to give criticism if I didn’t care and want to see the hosts and the show grow from here.

[@ryanho6975]

I’m glad they asked the tough questions and didn’t just move on

[@conor1496]

insane interview you guys crushed it

[@jo-lg.2458]

11:38 i like to imagine that im in the seat where this camera is positioned and me and the boys are interrogating him.

[@NobelNighthawk274]

Emil's waterbottle sticker "Sounds Like Bullshit to me" was perfectly placed subliminal messaging

[@irwinperez6370]

Emil your interview skills are definitely not mid bro, big ups G

[@lleytons]

love the conference room set

[@Logjambam]

Emil knew what he was doing facing his entire body towards him haha

[@marJinfriJns]

Emil layered up in the best (and most hilarious) ways for this one godda- sorry, blessed He who watches down from heavens up above.

[@notyourboi4076]

'first of all, we are a christian podcast' you guys weren't lying when you said this one would be good. Absolutely loved it.

[@careuhlinah]

1:15:50 and 1:16:11 THE EDITING I'M FUKCING DYING THAT'S SO FUNNY

[@JordanMuellerMusic]

Was hyped to see y’all got VLAD on. Only thought for next time is every time Emil would ask a question, VLAD would start giving his answer and then Emil would start talking again interrupting him from speaking. As much as I love hearing you guys. Having VLAD on is a huge guest for the podcast and as a listener I would have enjoyed hearing him talk more in this one. Y’all are still doing an awesome job though!

[@jimmibrown]

I felt like Emil was trying to keep him on track with the questions and make him answer straight, although I agree at times I wanted to see where Vlad was going a little more

[@jellofan1578]

Yea I think dudes like vlad will say their default responses if they aren’t actively steered

[@zak1265]

@@jellofan1578 100%. Every question had the exact same robotic mission answer which is why Emil kept stepping in repeatedly. Vlad's non-answer answers is what was annoying

[@ontopofbottom]

I can’t believe you guys actually got him on. This was incredible

[@sasscrawtch3900]

I love these guys. I’m well on my way to being a trillionaire now.

[@sasscrawtch3900]

It’s a tough climb to the top… everybody only wants me for my money now…

[@jabtrack123]

The “You have big hands” comment makes so much more sense to me now lmao

[@yeoscore]

y’all did so great with this. this quickly became my favorite podcast on the network

[@TimberdoodleOutdoors]

To keep the conversation going and asking about topics and questions the people want to know is very hard. Good job!

[@sidneymejia1068]

Y’all killed! Emil i peeped those thinking like a lawyer skills!! Loved the whole thing

[@Marshall.Powell]

Were you a trader before you started Robinhood? I was born in a small country in eastern europe

[@deeh6457]

Om goodness right!! I actually was beginning to think we would not be subjected to this yet again.

[@jorgejorge6350]

I love seeing people squirm when they get pushed on a hard question. The boys did great at avoiding the usual non-answers that people give.

[@Gorbgorbenson]

This was a really great episode. I think one of my favorites. It's good to see you pushing back when Vlad made claims yall were a bit incredulous of. The episode last week turned my mind around on the guy, as before, I felt he cheated the people when RobinHood shut down.

[@bailey-dj2cn]

This guy was really adamant on talking in circles, I'm really glad Ben and Emil were able to reel him back in when he went off-course.

[@Dylan-fs5kn]

Guys I'm a business studnet in the UK and I love this podcast! I use it to keep myself updated with everything plus you guys are hilarious so it keeps me watching!

[@SonOfThor69]

This was such a great episode, genuinely funny and you both were very hospitable to Vlad. Just a genuinely good time, great to listen to while I work!

[@monkeyadam1345634]

4:30 omg what a great callback that was so funny to talk about with the CEO of Robin Hood haha

[@anneceferron4595]

Amazing interview. And the video is worth watching just for the manscaped advert

[@captcareb5009]

The “Maybe it was because they were using the R Word tho” fucking sent me 😂😂😂

[@lilmissemi]

we love to see Emil on alpah mode

[@blowfish1702]

Thank you for holding Vlad to account, good effort lads 👍

[@33up24]

I though you guys were going to hold back damn, y'all have balls unlike Cody and noel (with Gary v). Great episode dudes