Episode 437: The Barrett Saga Tua, Tyreek, Teddy B, and More

Miami Dolphins On SI Publisher Alain Poupart is joined by Adam Beasley of Pro Football Network to discuss the Dolphins' precarious situation, the weird Shaq Barrett story, the Tyreek Hill dilemma, and more. Make sure to follow Alain on Twitter at @PoupartNFL and check out all the written content at si.com/nfl/dolphins.

[@lamonzoscott2593]

Adam is always a great guest! No bias info

[@michaellombardo7788]

Hi Alain and Adam thanks for the great show ❤

[@retromodern2]

It is a holiday for most in Canada. It is British in origin and originally people would pack items and food in boxes from Christmas for the more needy.

[@Missnubiaboss]

Boxing day is when you give out your left over food to the poor in boxes 🎁 Happy holidays ⛄ and very Happy New Year Phins fans ❤🎉

[@colinmcmanus5570]

Also donating gifts in boxes to tradespeople 😃

[@Missnubiaboss]

@colinmcmanus5570 Yes, that also

[@dave34573]

Getting a legit backup QB like Teddy Bridgwater...If I recall he got hurt twice in 2022 and missed the playoff game. He lost BOTH games he started in vs Minny and NE in the regular season.....and he lost in the Cincy game when TUA was concussed in the 2nd quarter and he came in and Dolphins were leading in the 3rd quarter 15-14 and lost 27-15.. So a legit backup QB like Teddy with all those "Weapons" and he did not win a game for the Dolphins in 2022. How Ironic..

[@savr1200gs]

Yes Adam here in the UK we call it football because surprise surprise it's a sport where you use your foot unlike American football where you don't 😂

[@joec8942]

17:00 Poup you really think we are gonna see some major step forward with this unit for next season? We’ve had 5 years of Tua sucking against half way decent teams. McMuffin 3 years later still can’t coach his way out of a paper bag. CGrier consistently makes the wrong draft picks over and over again. We have not made any major (or even minor) steps since we fired Flo. This team is a joke and you think we should run it back?!?!?! 🤦‍♂️

[@dioncooper2844]

Releasing Barrett was a Favor to Drew Rosenhouse

[@robertjason6885]

Jonnu Smith has to be a top 5 Fins MVP

[@InFinZible]

No jonnu smith? Dudes literally the best tight end in dolphins history lol

[@MzRelentless]

A win is a win for Bridgewater... Keep the same energy as we do for the Dolphins, respectfully.

[@MickRac10]

The talk of replacing Grier with a friend of McDaniel or a GM that has control of the roster but can't fire McDaniel because the owner likes him is the biggest S Show that only the Dolphins could accomplish. This team doesn't have the money or players to improve the roster enough to compete next year. Regardless who is GM. The new GM would be getting stuck with the bad Grier contracts. When mcdaniel can't beat good teams next year, just like this year or the year prior, he'll be fired either during the year or when the season ends. That's the only outcome. Ross has no clue what he's doing. Losing to the Texans was the mcdaniel/ Tua offense. That isn't changing. Ross is an old man and cant be taught new lessons. He may even try to make McDaniel t the acting GM. Dont put it past the old coot.

[@kingkuntaSWM]

11:28 Absolutely not Beasley.

[@richardkeys5214]

OL and Backup QB

[@jeffbratcher4831]

What was Teddy’s W-L record…I’ll give you a hint…there is a 0 in the W column…so no, he was not measurably better, and maybe more injury prone than Tua!

[@alldolphinspodcast]

Wasn't better than Skylar, Tyler or Tim Boyle? Suuuure.

[@alokmehta6827]

If the Fins are out of the playoffs by Sunday, why not play 2nd stringers to see what they have? Huntley, Wright, Ezukanma, etc.

[@mactownsend2890]

I agree. Makes sense but the coach and GM are playing for their jobs.

[@idarkboost]

And also save tua, waddle, Achane, and other pieces from injury. We saw what happened when Chubb was in for no reason last year.

[@adam01315]

Ya and when they look bad cuz Huntley sucks everybody is gonna say that they suck too.. If the coaching staff doesn't know what they have in those players by now, they will never know then..

[@John-Edward]

Because they want to win! Have a winning season!

[@TT-cj9fi]

The Bills were in a worse contractual situation with Diggs last off-season, and they didn't seem to have a problem finding a trade partner.

[@barryd1671]

I recall Tyreek complaining to the police during his detention that the restraint was hurting his wrist. Is this the source of his wrist injury??

[@louissartor6294]

Not disappointed that the Phins will miss the playoffs because they are not a playoff team level team. Will enjoy the last two games. It’s only entertainment played by millionaires on behalf of billionaires. Bread and circuses theatre. OL needs an overhaul and what else is new. Rooting for the Bills in the post season.

[@jeffbratcher4831]

Good luck with Buffalo? We just lost to them on a last second FG, if not for butterfingers Mostert we win that game, in Buffalo!

[@robertjason6885]

Poup… do you think Taj Washington or Mo Kamara can help the Fins next season. Fans were hoping for young talented depth at those positions.

[@roguebossa]

I'd go after Dillon Gabriel at Oregon for a backup, he might not go high and he'd be a natural fit for this scheme

[@mannygbb]

No to the Bills.

[@colinmcmanus5570]

Glad Beasley was on this episode. Otherwise, we’d just be listening to the ramblings of a devil’s advocate 🥱

[@alldolphinspodcast]

@@colinmcmanus5570 rude much?

[@colinmcmanus5570]

@ Three of your “points” led with you stating “not to be a devil’s advocate.” It comes off bitter and boring.

[@idarkboost]

He wouldn’t do that if there wasn’t a co host. He showing both point of views so you can understand more. Find someone else to watch bro

[@TT-cj9fi]

Geez, Alain. You don't draft a qb in the third round expecting him to be an immediate starter. It's a developmental pick whom the team would hope to grow into the eventual starter or backup. I think it's really smart team building.

[@alldolphinspodcast]

Problem with that is you don't find good QBs after even Round 2 ... over the last 10 years, the only two decent-to-good starters were Dak Prescott (round 4, 2016) and, of course, Brock Purdy. that was my point.

[@TT-cj9fi]

That's a cultural problem with the league, though. No patience. ​@@alldolphinspodcast

[@TT-cj9fi]

Youve got to be kidding me with all of this Buffalo Bills love. Neither I nor any other self respecting Dolphins' fan ought to be routing for the Bills to win a single game. Ever! Gimme a break. I couldn't care less about the woes of the Buffalo franchise, nor the plight of its arrogant, pathetic, meathead, 'America's sweethearts' fanbase. Sheesh! The Sth Fla media contingent is nearly as soft as its football team.

[@happyevelyn]

If we cant win hope someone from our division wins!

[@TT-cj9fi]

​@happyevelyn you're not a fan.

[@roguebossa]

Get Jaylen Wright involved again and run the ball to the max in these last games

[@nrbnrb5147]

Boxing Day is what happens to your stuff the day after Christmas when you forgot to get the wife a gift....

[@brianmartinez1602]

Run it back with the whole crew? Another wasted season

[@dinkblack2637]

💯💯💯 agree that they will run it back with McDaniel and Grier and the core of this team next year! MAJOR changes will be made if 2025 is another mediocre season. Hoping for a Buffalo/Detroit Super Bowl, both of these teams and fans are deserving after countless years of misery!!!

[@mizer9510]

except for buffalo

[@jskully9784]

Some of yall in the media funny dropping all of this at the feet of grier and absolving McDaniel of all his missteps. Grier needs to go absolutely but if 1 goes both goes, if 1 stays both stay. That's been the problem with the Dolphins since Ross took ownership of the team. It never works because you miss out on the top candidates on either side by keeping one of the other. McDaniel has built a culture where the players run the team and nobody is held accountable, and im not talking about no damn smythe, David long, or mostert. Let's keep it funky and just say yall making the case to keep McDaniel because it's GUARANTEED Tua is still here if Mike still here. And it's clear that Hill and Grier are the scapegoats this yr of why this team falls short

[@idarkboost]

Get McDaniel an O line and a better talent evaluator for the draft and he’s a top head coach.

[@jskully9784]

@idarkboost man stop. This dude has had top talent since he walked in the door, especially last year. Outside of Liam eichenberg that line last yr was solid in 4 out of the 5 positions. He had tyreek hill and waddle, mostert and Achane and Tua was healthy all season. You can't ask for a better offense. Then on defense the weakest part of that side was the LBs. His culture is weak, he gets outcoached in most games and the team looks unprepared against the better teams in the league. So no it has nothing to do with the line and talent evaluation because they've paid and traded for some of the best talent in the league.

[@idarkboost]

@@jskully9784 exactly the line was good LAST YEAR. And look how good the run game was. Don’t expect much when Austin Jackson is out for season, Armstead is up and down, you have 2 of the worst graded guards in the league on the same team. You lose rob hunt to Carolina. Signing Brew was the only bright spot on the line this year.

[@idarkboost]

@@jskully9784 defense allows the cards to win offense put up points. Jordan poyer allows buffalo to win with flag, tua had an amazing game, what more can they do. Yes tua got hurt. But mike is a better coach than whatever guy you want to replace him with. He does not control the defense or injuries

[@jskully9784]

​@@idarkboost not better than a Mike vrabel

[@markphillips8097]

Damn tua when he doesn't play they stink period and that's with all the players you put ahead of him so pretty valuable imo

[@alldolphinspodcast]

that was as much, if not more, the result of the dolphins having practice squad players at quarterback when he was out.

[@jackthompson-ew8uk]

Whats with the delusion that if Tua stays heakthy they become a playoff team? He SUCKS vs playoff teams. stop pepetuating the clown

[@dave34573]

What about if Jaylen Waddle stays healthy would that help...The guy gets paid and has missed the same amount of games as TUA last 2 years...Last year got injured in the 1st quarter vs Dallas...missed Balty..Buffalo for the Division and came back hobbled vs KC in the playoffs......This year gets hurt beginning of 2nd quarter vs Texans in a must win game..missed last week....If we going to shiit on TUA..Lets Shiit on Waddle since he got paid as well...If u want to say oh TUA makes 53 million even though that is a fake number...Well Waddle makes 27.5 million on his extension...So it's ok for him to be injured and suck as well vs playoff teams?

[@robertjason6885]

Marv Levy and the Bills couldn’t get it done in the SB 4 straight trips. They SHOULD be cursed.

[@robertjason6885]

I believe DTRobinson will be the QB. It shouldn’t matter.. unless the Fins know they are eliminated at 4:15 Eastern… could be. At that point, I sit Tua, Seiler, Ramsey, cut Calais, sit Juno, Tyreek, Armstead…. After their first series. A bruised back epidemic. I WOULD insert Julian Hill at every position possible.

[@robertjason6885]

Grier?? Thank you, Mr Beasley.

[@robertjason6885]

Grier is going nowhere… unless Ross “promotes” Grier to Executive VP of Grok development.

[@Asap585]

Lets see the bills do it?! lol never wanna see the bills win anything significant ever. Get this guy outta here.

[@mizer9510]

100%

[@Csonka_Would_Run]

I hope the bills lose the rest of their games forever...if not longer.

[@mizer9510]

exactly

[@erichood611]

Dolphins play loads of cupcakes, my friend.

[@MaverickMcphee-v2d]

I had no hopes in the dolphins this when I saw they did not sure up the offensive linw

[@michaelmichel4243]

I can't root for buffalo, it's not in my DNA. 😂😂😂

[@robertjason6885]

Bad weather bad field.. could be an issue for kickers. And… if they’re already eliminated by game time.. what then?

[@danielbostelman4598]

@@robertjason6885 the broncos play the same time no elimination before

[@TT-cj9fi]

Hiring a gm just because he gets along with Mike McD is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The franchise would be limiting its options incredibly, and it's one of the most important positions within the organization. Personally, I'd fire both Grier and McD and hire Weidl and Vrabel. But if Ross is absolutely set on keeping McD, then just fire Grier and keep Mckenzie as interim gm and see how the season goes. I mean, either way, I'm pretty sure they'll be blowing it all up next year at this time. McD's vision is fundamentally flawed, and Grier doesn't have the balls to set him straight.The team lacks toughness, discipline, accountability, and the personel usuage is mind boggling.

[@greenlion6544]

You should draft a QB every year, no matter what. However, a 3rd round pick? Absolutely not. You go QB in the 6th or 7th.

[@brinkk105]

Say what you want about Grier but he has been a coaches GM meaning most of the picks the groceries he selected was players the Coaches wanted. Has he missed on picks yep does it justify the Dolphines moving on from him..yes I wouldn't argue that. But if Grier is let go you have to clean house and let the new GM pick another coach and let that coach choose another Quaterback. The narrative that Tyreek Hill should be released is crazy. Do fans really believe Tua put up numbers without Hill freeing up the underneath routes with out the attention he attrack. Win a game that matters!!

[@David13Rome]

Without going into all the reasons.... Adam's 60% chance of management change meaning fire Grier is just wrong. He's out of touch with what Ross is thinking. Sure many fans might want it but they don't make the decisions. Alain's 30% makes more sense.

[@Alawishous]

Once again Poupart can't shed his Hater Skin for Tua!!!

[@dylanb_2011]

Run it back, but try to fix the Oline, NT, backup QB and get new, better help with the NFL Draft.

[@ethanhoward9327]

This was such a downer of an episode! If we go 9-8 isn't that 5 years of winning records? How many other teams in a league have done that? 4?

[@mizer9510]

Yeah 5 years of mediocrity and still no playoff wins. A winning season doesn't mean squat if you crap the bed in the playoffs or don't even make it there.

[@alldolphinspodcast]

KC, Buffalo and Pittsburgh

[@TT-cj9fi]

Hey, man. If you're satisfied with mediocrity, all the power to ya. But you sound like a soft fan of a soft team. Enjoy all those wins next season vs sub 500 teams.

[@ethanhoward9327]

@@TT-cj9fi I don't think mediocrity means what you think it means lol. If Miami goes 9-8 only three other teams would also have five or more years of winning records. That's the opposite of mediocrity.

[@TT-cj9fi]

Consistently batting .500 is actually the definition of mediocrity. You're part of the problem, man.​@@ethanhoward9327

[@rthompson624]

All Alain does is play devil's advocate to the guest's real football knowledge. Whenever Alain puts forth an original thought, it's woefully wrong. On this podcast he tried to make the case that Tyreek's performance is actually fine. Ok, Alain. Maybe start actually watching the games. Lol.

[@alldolphinspodcast]

@@rthompson624 Thanks for the suggestion. SMH

[@BobbyDigital-p5f]

Come on Beasley about the bills really?

[@willvazquez3218]

I have been a fan of the Dolphins since I was a kid in the 70s. This is the first time in my life that I will be rooting for Buffalo. Let’s face it, they deserve to go to the SB. They deserve to win. What a lot of dolphin fans have to realize is that the Buffalo Bills and the Miami Dolphins are family. We’re the Hatfields and McCoys. it’s time to bury the hatchet and give them respect they deserve and especially Josh Allen who is a class act. Also, if anyone’s ever been to Buffalo, even wearing a dolphins jersey, they’ll tell you that you will never find a nicer more welcoming people than the residents of Buffalo.

[@3rdgibbs]

I want to agree with you but I can’t. I’ve been to Buffalo for a game. Had a good time. I want to like Josh Allen he seems like a great dude. I can’t do it though. Going to a fins home game and watching the bills fans take over our stadium makes me despise them. Going to key west and seeing more bandwagon bills fans then fins fan is frustrating. I’ll never like the bills no matter how much they deserve it.

[@shanemontgomery5749]

Boooooooo, sorry never

[@TT-cj9fi]

Take a fuckin hike, dude. I would be ecstatic if the Bills just folded the franchise. Or, better yet, move the team out of Buffalo just to spite that arrogant 'nfl's sweetheart' fanbase. And, to be honest, you lose all credibility as a sports fan when you claim to be Dolphins' supporter while maintaining a soft spot for the detested division rival.

[@debolz7840]

Ummmmm...not only no, but hell no.

[@adam01315]

Ur right.. Ive been to 3 games in Buffalo in the last 6 years and the fans treated me and my friends really well! They let us tailgate with them and they fed us and the food was great! Now was there a little heckling from some fans? Yes.. But nothing bad.. I want Buffalo to win cuz then it would put a fire under Ross's ass to make big changes to make us better to compete with Buffalo cuz they ain't going anywhere as long as they have Josh Allen!

[@salcontrino]

Based on your own comments, we don't know if Bridgewater is any better than skylar or snoop

[@dave34573]

2022...Is proof in the pudding....He was NOT..He had all those Weapons like TUA...And anyone can run this offense...So they say

[@mizer9510]

Bridgwater sucks

[@alldolphinspodcast]

Why is it so hard for some folks to listen. Let me try in writing: Teddy B >>>>>>>> Skylar, Tyler or Boyle! Ugh.

[@alldolphinspodcast]

@@dave34573 Played the equivalent of nine quarters, stats projected to 5,300 passing yards over 17 games with Tyreek projecting to 2,300 yards with Teddy B. But, yeah, he sucked. He couldn't stay healthy. That was the problem with him. Oh, one more thing, the Dolphins are 1-3 in the regular season that year without Tua, had a mid-game QB change because of injury three times (the three losses), had Terron Armstead for a total of eight snaps in the three losses, and recorded exactly ZERO takeaways in the three losses. But, sure, Teddy B sucked. SMH

[@happyevelyn]

Pray for new ownership!

[@colinmcmanus5570]

Booooo

[@ronlee2611]

Ross is a great owner. The Dolphins spend more money and have the best facilities in the NFL.

[@happyevelyn]

@@ronlee2611 Worst owner in sports! Hires all cheap novice garbage. And he meddles!

[@happyevelyn]

@@ronlee2611 There's a reason the Dolphins stink.

[@ronlee2611]

@@happyevelyn okay, now go back to the barn.

[@dave34573]

Jonu had a good game vs Texans after Waddle went out...also had a good game vs SF with Waddle out...Achane had a big game vs SF with Waddle out..What is this nonense that "Waddle and Hill" is the reason for Jonu and Achane getting a lot of success...If u have a good OL..Achane would get his numbers running which opens up the pass...If TUA does not have to throw within 2 seconds and had a good OL everyone gets to eat and the TE is used more in the pass game regardless of the who the WR's are......The narrative that Dolphins and TUA have "Hill and Waddle" like their are the most dynamic duo in NFL history and is the reason why TUA has success or the offense runs through them is nonsense and so overrated...Why did HILL not get 1800-2000 yards with Maholmes and his big arm and "clutch" and off script plays and Andy Reid calling plays......Hill makes 30 million...We gave up a boat load plus paid him and in hindsight do you know what players we would have had in the draft that we gave up to get Hill and or other the free agents we would have signed with his 30 million that he makes. Waddle has missed the same amount of time as TUA the last 2 years... Those 2 midget WR"s are overrated AF...Can't wait until they get rid of Hill and replace him with a big bodied WR and the Hill being the best player on the team narrative stops...Like when has the #1 voted best player EVER shown up in a big game other than Balty in 2022 and not just vs bad teams if he was the BEST player on the team?.. Most teams would take Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins all day over Tyreke Hill and Jaylen Waddle....Lets be real here and its not even close.

[@jskully9784]

@@dave34573 I can't wait for them to trade tyreek myself so everybody can see what this team really looks like. But to answer your question as to why Hill didn't have 1800-2000 yds in KC, it's because the didn't have to rely on him because they ran a real offense and not a gimmicky one that ran off a cheat motion. Mahommes actually spread the ball around in KC. If it wasn't for Tyreek McDaniel and Tua both would've been outta Miami by now. Because if you think Cedric Wilson and Waddle would've produced the same offense you definitely don't know football.

[@dave34573]

@@jskully9784 So are u saying that with the 1st and 2nd round picks and the other 3 later round picks we gave up plus his new extension we would have NOT gotten other skill position players? and they would just be ok with Waddle and Cedric Wilson? What could 25-30 million and a 1st and 2nd round pick get you in lieu of Hill..How about another high end WR/TE and couple of Stud OL drafted and we would be a more physical team upfront. The narrative that TUA can't play without HILL is a joke. U think Maholmes can throw within 2 seconds on a 2-3 step drop 15-20 yards over the middle with anticipation? That is not Maholmes game..That is TUA's elite trait over the middle..And that is why HILL had big numbers in 2022 and 2023 on those routes and elevated HIll's game..HIll was never a true dominant #1 in KC..He is has a limited catch radius...Then u factor in the big games..Even with KC was quiet in a lot of big games...

[@jskully9784]

@@dave34573 who in those drafts where the Phins would've picked was going to produce what Hill did? Because if they didn't Tua would've been outta here by now. To dimnish what tyreek brings to this team shows your lack of football knowledge. You know why that middle was open so much for Tua to throw in? The threat of Tyreek deep. And you kno why that middle isn't open as much any more because teams have figured how to guard it because Tua's limitations doesn't allow us to consistently attack the entire field. So what the good teams or good physical defense s do is either jam our little receivers (which I will agree with you there) to disrupt timing or take away the deep threat of tyreek and cover the middle of the field because we aren't a threat to throw outside the numbers. It's like teams used to do to be Simmons they'd take away the paint and leave him from 15 ft out because they knew he wasn't a threat to shoot. Alot of what we do is off the back of Tyreek. So again if you think Tua or McDaniel would still be here without Hill you're crazy

[@dave34573]

@@jskully9784 U missing the point...Producing is meaningless because Hill does not show up in big games as well along with TUA and Mcdaniel and the rest of the team..Now if HILL was showing up in big games...then u have a point...The guy is no show for the capital we gave up and money spent on him...He is not the only dynamic WR in the league..We had Waddle already and he would have gotten more of Hill's usage if Hill was not there.....Hill had great numbers in 2022 and 2023 because TUA and Mcdaniel forced him the ball... Free agents ALONE in 2022 that we could have gotten WITHOUT trading away 5 valuable picks. U have to remember we made HILL the highest paid WR in the league..So we could have gotten anyone.....Davante Adams -slightly less than what we paid HILL...Chistian Kirk - Much less - Chris Goodwin -way less......as far as TE..U could have gotten David Njouku...Dalton Shultz...Evan Ingram - Stud..Tyler Conklin.... Or how about trading away those 5 picks to move up in the 1st round and draft Garret Wilson at #10? Olave at #11..Jameson Williams#12...Christian Watson was at #34 George Pickens was #52...so many options... If we went the free agent route we draft OL or best available with the 5 picks..IF we drafted a WR such as Garret Wilson we spend the 25 Million on other free agents or position of need but the point is you could have gotten a George Pickens with your 2nd round pick and then spend on FA and draft picks...

[@dave34573]

@@jskully9784 Ask yourself this..Why couldn't a high end backup in 2022 Teddy Bridgwater not win a game with Hill and Waddle - (started 2 games) or came in when TUA got concussed vs Cincy. If Hill is such a game changer and the Dolphins have all these Weapons why are other QB's not succeeding? Why this year without TUA in 4 games...Hill and Waddle had a combined 250 yards and 1 TD...I think u are overvaluing HILL..Small midget limed Catch Radius WR...

[@mizer9510]

Sorry but I will never root for the Bills. I don't care how much the Chiefs win. I despise Buffalo. They deserve no sympathy.

[@michaellivingstone5356]

Anyone but Buffalo!!!!!! Most disgusting fans of all time.

[@gavriilnick4225]

ross is our biggest problem....

[@robertjason6885]

Bad weather bad field.. could be an issue for kickers. And… if they’re already eliminated by game time.. what then?