Episode 90 | ‘The Girl Who Divided DVSN’ feat.

[@nealrice9868]

TIMESTAMPS (This is actually a good interview/pod. Recommend listening to the whole thing) 0:00 - intro 0:57 - History of DVSN. How’d they get started? 3:18 - Mal asks Daniel: Talk about that moment when you saw your friends careers moving upwards, but yours was stagnant at that time. How’d you feel? 6:40 - While in Vegas Nineteen85 took a nap, and woke up with the ‘In too deep’ lyrics, and sent it over to Daniel to flesh out the rest of the song. From that time, he had the premonition that DVSN was going to be a hit. 13:29 - What has life been like since releasing their first album: September 5th? 15:22 - Rory asks: How was the DVSN package put together to pitch it to OVO, Drake, 40, etc? 18:16 - Rory asks: Is the OVO sweatshop rumors true? 19:24 - Mal asks Daniel: How much animosity/envy did you have when Drake got ‘Hotline Bling’ from your producer (Nineteen85)? 20;45 - Briefly talks about the ‘Hotline Bling’ controversy, where DRAM felt that his song ‘Cha Cha’ was copied to make Hotline Bling 22:30 - DVSN discusses the recent ‘If I Get Caught’ backlash (The rollout, JD texting Jay Z about the sample), talks about how people quickly flip flop between points of view 27:48 - When making ‘If I Get Caught’ , was it intentional for DVSN to make a record that was outside of the traditional DVSN sound? DVSN says the reaction was crazy, to the point where it had people arguing about it in the studio 31:47 - How far are we going to go with toxic R&B? Are we ever going to revert to songs about love? 34:24 - Daniel says: ‘If I Get Caught” isn’t toxic, it's honest. Goes on to define what toxic means and gives his perspective on the whole situation 40:26 - Mal asks Daniel: If your girl gets caught cheating, do you forgive her? 42:18 - (This pod from here is crazy)Nineteen85 asks: What if you’re getting to know a chick, but she has other dudes in rotation, so you’re not exclusive.. Are you gonna be off it, or are you gonna continue? Rory asks if the dude is going in raw with this chick he’s getting to know 42:52 - Mal: I’m not believing anyone has smashed one girl 30 times and only went raw 4. No man has put on 26 condoms with one girl, ever. That's sick. At what point does trust come in? 44:25 - If a man is in a chicks rotation, and he’s not hitting it raw, then he ain’t the leader of the pack. You can’t find love through a condom 47:00 - Asking the “What are we?” question, to the girl you’re looking to wife up when both of yall have other people in rotation 50:40 - Has a woman ever come to you and cut it off because she was getting serious with another guy? 52:34 - Being the dude she cheats with, and then the next morning, she gives you an ultimatum. She has the dude shes cheating on who’s ready to propose, and then she has you. Are you gonna step up, or is she gonna have to go back to her old dude? 57:20 - Daniel says a girl has never left him. Nineteen85 asks Daniel if he’s ever tightened up when a girl has given him an ultimatum, so that the girl would stay 58:00 - Mal asks if Nineteen85 and Daniel ever smashed the same girl 58:27 - Betterhelp ad, Real good podcast ad 1:00:18 - Back to if Nineteen85 and Daneil ever smashed the same girl 1:06:06 - In the rap world, rappers always smash the same girls. Is it the same in the R&B world? 1:07:40 - Ever since DVSN started poppin, has that helped them with the girls that didn’t talk to them before? 1:10:07 - Mal asks DVSN: Is Drake someone that you would want to hear your project and get feedback from? From an artist perspective, how does OVO run? 1:15:27 - Daniel says the new album tells a story from beginning to end and ‘If I Get Caught’ is chapter 1 1:17:51 - Daniel says that after ‘If I Get Caught; was dropped, a girl DM’d him and said she loves “‘If I Get Caught’ but can’t play it in the house because she cheated on her husband. Daniel asks why she cheated. 1:19:53 - How has it been with adding JD and Brian Michael Cox to the mix? 1:24:11 - Mal asks: Out of all the projects you put out, which one did you think would be received differently than it actually was? 1:27:43 - Metaportal ad 1:28:33 - When is the new DVSN album coming out? Features? Podcast wrap-up

[@skeez15]

Thank you bruh!!!!!!! Your time and effort is much appreciated!!!!!

[@Bigoat2k5]

Again. Always appreciated my guy.

[@lungelobaba9942]

Damn bro you killing this timestamp shit and very helpful especially with the descriptions thank you🙏🙏🙏

[@Bigoat2k5]

He is trying to get recruited /job . Lol

[@PerfectMessProductions]

Give this guy a job

[@wonderboyj8]

“She’s not gonna do it anyway” deserves its own entire pod 😂😂😂😂😂

[@danielhill9912]

Rory gets in his bag around guests he's really cool with, love to see it

[@I-do-not-read-replies]

Talking about another man’s bag is craaaazy. -Mal💰

[@mayrao123]

Daniel: “I want to know everything, yes” Rory: “oh, so you don’t enjoy sleep?” 🤣

[@Thisdudehere-e6n]

That’s facts 🤣🤣

[@mistersippiburning]

At one point Division was interviewing each other. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jiamasjohnson1293]

You can tell they are all friends in real life ..I love it, Def needed this after that Video they dropped lmfao

[@jayjohn5856]

Never really heard 85 talk. But i’m glad he this transparent. Best convos come from people who see both sides of things.

[@MetaMan09]

“Wait women cheat??” Mal poddin today 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭

[@sh007er7]

Rory’s house has a restaurant in it too?? 😅😂

[@atally27]

🤣🤣🤣

[@lungelobaba9942]

😂😂😂

[@ace2tone]

He getting that chicken lol

[@obnem]

😂😂😂😂🤞🏽

[@shywes2923]

lol 😆

[@00GT]

“I am the jimmy general” 🤣🤣🤣 that deserves it’s own song.

[@josieayoade6277]

Baby D was working hard in the back!

[@TraBolo]

Okay I genuinely like this episode. Yall should have @dvsn on here more randomly and I bet those would be the most viewed. Congrats on the success

[@RobCorneliusnohr]

Man's just casually eating some salmon and asparagus lol

[@Tyler_ThaTruth]

I feel like people should eat more during podcasts lol

[@RobCorneliusnohr]

@@Tyler_ThaTruth as long as they don't chew into the mic I'm fine with it

[@nia4842]

I'm a new DVSN listener. This album will be my introduction. I love the first single and without hearing it, I know I'll love the second single with Jagged Edge as I love everything they do. I look forward to more music.

[@mxfilms9738]

You should actually go back and listen tot he first couple of projects

[@khalilabdul-waheed6791]

Their first album (Sept 5) is still their best. "Classic" gets thrown around too much but that album...yeah a WHOLE LOT of memories happened with that.

[@WilliamsPinch]

Man the first 2 albums were life changing.

[@Randomdood64]

Irish McNasty and Mal Thee Stallion dropping🔥🔥

[@zeemad3484]

love this

[@shenellrichardson4936]

Baddies

[@vella406]

i love dvsn! people do care to know. i met Daniel & he gave me a division sign tattoo 😎 in Toronto. It was so fun!! this interview was nice by the way. it's good to hear 1985 speaking more. 🎉

[@PerfectMessProductions]

Thanks DVSN for reviving traditional R&B and staying true to the sound

[@shababy1706]

Very good episode!!! Really loving the interviews

[@Aye.Marco99]

"You can't feel the love thru the condom" 😂😂🤣🤣

[@rachelleb7786]

Love the Toronto conversations!! This interview was one of your best 🙌🏾🔥

[@Usurpadora]

DVSN been everywhere and this is their best interview thus far 🤍

[@makyo_9588]

These boys be having great interviews

[@thomasmartin6299]

Y’all got it rn I never thought I would vibe to this 1

[@prettyricky2001]

DVSN all day. Daniel gets the credit but 1985 is the reason.

[@I.am.Barry5k]

Top two episodes. Congratulations. 👍🏿

[@ribbitfrog1]

I think this interview was great! Maybe it's cuz I do listen to DVSN, but I think Daniel and 85 had very interesting stories and viewpoints.

[@yourfavoritecommentary5028]

Ne-Yo should be on the Remix of the new song.

[@chase9340]

Especially after what just came out? Perfect man for it😂

[@MVPBRE]

Good shot lol

[@antoniotubbs]

Neyo dropped his own version “Don’t love me “ two weeks ago 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Juice2248]

🤣🤣

[@rayw8363]

You spittin, lowkey Neyo should just lean into the toxicity angle at this point lmao

[@MillZ56]

Lmao yo the slight truth to the OVO a sweatshop explanation is crazy…thank y’all for asking silly questions that give us answers with insight

[@thomasmartin6299]

Mad obvious and I think drake is the goat artist

[@MillZ56]

@@thomasmartin6299 obvious but the sleeping couch detail (I may have originally missed) gave it more legs

[@lungelobaba9942]

Dope podcast went from interview BS to straight up conversation between guys

[@TheMelanieDanielle]

Ok Baby D looking GOODT in that background!! 😍😍😍

[@mandlamashinini2701]

Man, this was dope!

[@mrfarrock718]

That salmon cold as hell lol

[@zeemad3484]

great fucken job guys .i didnt knw to much about them . now am fully gassed to hear the project

[@umamah5296]

YOO this was such a funny interview 😂 Favourite parts were finding out the history of DVSN, Toronto talk and just hearing Nineteen85 and Daniel banter back and forth LOL. Like Mal said 85 is usually the "silent assassin"; I know he has his fame as a producer but as someone who doesn't really keep track of the producing world it was great to see his personality here 🤣

[@szasremmurd8002]

i laughed so much! that was refreshing!!

[@shywes2923]

Baby D the bottle girl ! Lol

[@robbyrobUT]

This was a great interview, it felt more like friends just sitting and talking. The range on this episode was amazing, I was laughing yet at the same time thinking about deeply about some of the topics and comments... lowkey profound!

[@CarlitoStaxx]

"nah it's cool.. she's not gonna do it anyway" lmfao, dude was other there picking at his plate TIGHT AF 🤣

[@laurenw.4459]

It’s shocking to me how these grown ass men are having this much internal conflict about asking a woman to be monogamous. Like it’s actually paining them on the inside 😂

[@millardfilmore1403]

I think it’s funny how they’re treating it as such legitimate, deep, intellectual conversation haha. Like the thought that you can love someone AND cheat on them is not THAT intellectually stimulating 😭

[@FranciscoSanchezXO]

you wouldnt understand....

[@thefriendlyasshole4323]

@@millardfilmore1403 I swear they think these are the most deepest convos 😂

[@henryowens396]

@@millardfilmore1403 R&B be hilarious cos like an artist can say some generic shit like 'I love you when I leave you' and span a thousand diet red table talks discussing it 🤣🤣🤣

[@kkTrinese]

Right like grow up please lol

[@Xeno1798]

Yo 85 hit Daniel w the "Hold on ma imma get right back"😭😭

[@nixx03]

This was such a great conversation/interview! I am a little bias being from Toronto and knowing that there is such great talent in my city. Honestly as a woman, I enjoy hearing men have deep conversation about relationships. It's interesting to see the male point of view 🤔 lol. Rory and Mal please come do a show in Toronto one day soon...I will definitely be there 🥰

[@thomasmartin6299]

Drake being in front of the door when niggas trying to leave with his hand up like Beanie Sigel in flipside is INSANE

[@skeez15]

I love this!!!!!!! Thank you guys

[@bgtaylor89]

This was a dope episode 👏

[@mr.mc9036]

Demaris got a whole lotta movement back there 🤣

[@mxfilms9738]

When?

[@brieljones23]

That’s her ???

[@DameSmash10]

So many gems were dropped in this interview. I fucking love it.

[@thankyou6610]

Can’t wait for the pod tour. We need a DVSN pop up in Atlanta

[@TianXiiii]

this condom slander must stop. its too many people in traffic right now to continue to be populating the world this hard

[@rebeccag0327]

Nineteen85 seems so cool to me. He just be chilling

[@verdean11]

I swear The Weeknd is like Voldemort to all these niggas, no one mentions his name, meanwhile homie on a stadium world tour with Mike Dean lmao

[@OriginalBoondocksXVIII]

They usually just call him and his crew XO, probably because they get cooler with Cash, La Mar, etc. than they do with Weeknd himself.

[@jaiwest3387]

bc how he did drake?

[@verdean11]

@@jaiwest3387 I don't think that's it, maybe because he passed all of them even though they all came out around the same time? Truth is Weeknd put a lot more work in. 30 songs plus features in less than a year. If he signed to Drake he probably would be where DVSN, Party and Majid Jordan are today...

[@nia4842]

@@verdean11 The Weeknd came out 6 years before DVSN.

[@verdean11]

@@nia4842 4, Abel came out in late 2011, DVSN came out in late 2015

[@bjayscrib6885]

Lol the most toxic non toxic interview ever lol dope 🔥🔥🔥

[@badactorsacademy2312]

"YOU CANT FIND LOVE THRU A CONDOM" - Mal (The mans don't miss!)

[@CC-jw8cj]

i was in tears 😭

[@OHoneyPot]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@thechangeiscoming361]

🔥🔥🔥

[@MixxyGirl]

17:45 The only podcast I've ever recommended is JBP back in the golden era & now New Rory & Mal 😂😭

[@shortvideos6576]

You are KRAZY, The JBP is better then ever!!!

[@FranciscoSanchezXO]

@@shortvideos6576 hell nah lol. maybe if you 60 years old

[@youngshyne]

Rory “I was just tryna start some R&Beef Daniel ” oh i know I know ima give you some later” Ayooooo Pause! 😂😂😂

[@NicoleCocklin]

This interview definitely made me love DVSN even more ❤️ lol

[@dorcass-gg]

Saying you can’t fall in love with a condom is crazy.

[@MrErhyie]

And true

[@shenellrichardson4936]

I agree 🤦🏾‍♀️😭

[@ermackoresh6282]

I know y’all saw Baby D run into da door in the background 😂😂

[@ballyyaheardmii]

With da WAGON

[@mariahasmr9184]

Time stamp

[@the1and-only156]

11:15

[@raemiller2752]

Good interview and Pod.

[@kacieanderson8488]

The way Daniel holds his fork gives me anxiety 🤣

[@ShamikaSZN]

the way he's holding the mic is sending me to hell 😂

[@hamibstorm]

instant classic, im glad its not all smoke and mirrors, theres real people making the music.

[@Brooklynskater94]

MAL dining room crazy

[@biancamarchand399]

54:50 At this BIG AGE men don't know how to say, I wanna be exclusively dating you and nobody else. DO you feel the same? DASSIT!!! Emotional maturity is knowing she may accept it or she may not. Leave ya ego at the door cuz if she's the one you want get to the nitty gritty.

[@lamarhightower1985]

Great episode!

[@thembelangayi3674]

The contrast between 85 & Daniel is crazy though...

[@joeblackwolf17]

Love the episode

[@AlbinoWhiteGuy]

I’m glad their podcast is doing well after getting screwed by Joe Budden. That dude has some serious personal issues.

[@zeemad3484]

agreed. dissed the music video Mal in .haters gna hate

[@PerfectMessProductions]

@@zeemad3484 what episode? I unfollowed him on every platform after the split but I wanna hear the fuckery

[@ashleyb4549]

Just like a female, being emotional and bringing up past shit. Move on!

[@BAEHOUSING]

The quarter century mark 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@NebraskaGangCulture]

Man let’s gooooo

[@abtshoni]

"Women cheat?!!!"😂😂😂

[@Boxcarboxingboxer]

"I love the fans DMing me" 😂

[@amielcudder]

Rory get lit with guest. This when he probably at his best cause he got his finger on the pulse of things. Mal just be existing lmao

[@amielcudder]

Also I wish y’all pushed back more on that record. That record was terrible. And hearing DVSN justify it into a space of “it’s a catchy hook and everybody gonna talk about it”. Like I guess if thats what they wanted to do cool. Doesn’t stop the record from being terrible. Especially bad coming from them since they have given us masterpieces.

[@saucyfaces]

@@amielcudder I agree.

[@jayMyles23]

These condom takes by Rory and Mal are crazy

[@nezbit10301]

Dam how did they peak at 251k subs only?

[@cheykesegames]

Dawg this interview is hilarious

[@thankyou6610]

I love you Mal! You’ve got the best interviewing skills of all the podders out there!!!

[@kidy7k]

I forgot yal had a podcast

[@jamesmarieellison]

D'Angelo's Spanish Joint off Voodoo best get over someone song.

[@bigswank]

38:17 This part hits different especially after seeing the Ime Udoka/Nia Long situation. 😂

[@PerfectMessProductions]

Wait who jumped on the mic 49 minutes in? 😅🤣 I was like WTF lol

[@TooMuchBodayInnaPants]

Right. I'm going to need Rory and Mal to never throw a random voice in my ear again! LOL

[@PerfectMessProductions]

@@TooMuchBodayInnaPants I need explanations lol it definitely wasn't Dameris

[@Thisdudehere-e6n]

I feel Daniel on that” Don’t think about it” beat. I didn’t know I was a 85 fan until now. If 85 did a verzuz on producing. It will be a long night for whoever.

[@jaysena3390]

Funniest moment: 40.42 "Me, when I realize here I'm at right now...." LMAO

[@heyitsburt]

This live chat was wild and off the rails...

[@TooMuchBodayInnaPants]

What were they talking about??

[@TooMuchBodayInnaPants]

There is something about Daniel's haircut that makes me not trust him

[@rascalmania]

🤣🤣💀💀

[@brieljones23]

Cheers to the best memories didn’t get the credit it deserved

[@abtshoni]

"You can't find love with a condom"

[@NONCHALANTJOSE]

Quiet assassin 🤣

[@ace2tone]

Daniel taking forever with the fish lol

[@TooMuchBodayInnaPants]

buggin me!! lol

[@billy2069]

Future needs a remix on this

[@warrenmelvin4370]

Just registered it’s ”If I get caught” not If I cheat”. Crazy.

[@TooMuchBodayInnaPants]

Yo the pod starts at about 58 minutes!!! Thats when we get to the shits! lol

[@MrIcenice44]

You propose to somebody and they can just be like “guess I’m cheating on my man today” what y’all doin?

[@EpicGammingCrew]

“The condom is the one barrier that love can’t penetrate” some sick dudes right here

[@AllCityBigHecENT]

September 18th is crazy…

[@tjloading]

Drake definitely dropped the ball with his OVO artists.

[@tecgod9461]

"you're Probably that guy" Mal!! lol

[@badactorsacademy2312]

42:22 I'm on the same page as Rory, I don't feel like he missed a beat! Haha

[@lihlejafta6430]

Please Interview Joey BadA$$

[@Hollaback_Youngn]

Ne-yo should be on the remix of if I get caught

[@bencromwell707]

My Group dvsn💯👍