Epistemological Impudence and the Post War Consensus | Blog and Mablog

In the immediate aftermath of the Second World War, the flush of that spectacular victory provided an opportunity for the secularists to make their move-and make it they most certainly did.
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[@brandonmalone5758]

"We slew Sauron alright, but like Isildur we kept the ring" Perfect analogy

[@davidheylen2452]

This video randomly showed up in KZbin. WOW! Profound, penetrating well thought ideas from beginning to end. It gave me new ways to see some things I had never considered before and deeply challenged others.

[@StartingGuitar]

Always love your thinking and eloquence. Thank you for standing strong.

[@samuelthompson4360]

Such a nice way to begin Tuesday morning (in Australia) with a new Mablog post. Thanks much!

[@marshalllucky7020]

How’s Tuesday? We’re not there yet.

[@HartyBiker]

​@marshalllucky7020 we're all pretty tired and sunburnt from our national holiday, Australia day (or invasion day if you are one of those moral relativists). It seems like there has been less civil unrest here this go around though. Also, I just heard that the Queensland government has put a temporary ban on puberty blockers for under 18s, so that's pretty good news

[@marshalllucky7020]

@ nicely done!! Time for pints!

[@Jaxorian]

🔥🔥🔥 Spot on analysis

[@travismorrison9160]

Deeply thought provoking. I'm going to have to listen several times to take everything in.

[@jonthrelkeld2910]

Doug. This video is one of your most sagacious and rational. It clarifies what happened to the West post WW II. As with many of your other videos, I've saved it.

[@tomcoyne2690]

That was a good one, Doug!

[@BibleSongs]

C.S. Lewis, Francis Schaeffer, and Doug Wilson = great mablog.

[@RobertJames-c4f]

High praises to the King

[@HugoArgentina]

Supposedly agnostic here. Brilliant argument fantastically delivered

[@jackjones3657]

What a great video. It stands to reason that those who reject God's Word would naturally conclude, in their fallen nature, that moral certainty leads to conflict. As Christians we remember from Scripture Christ says in Luke 12:51 He came to divide, not unite truth with lies.

[@AndersonWave17]

Europa: The Last Battle is required viewing here.

[@jeremiahjackson5792]

10 hours of propaganda

[@AndersonWave17]

@ Yeah go ahead and disprove some of the claims. Because I’ve heard that same comment a hundred times, not one claim refuted or one source debunked. Go ahead I’ll wait. And anyone reading this thread will see it too.

[@Yesica1993]

1:52 "It was decided among them, it was decided that wars were caused by decided convictions, by dogma, by a conviction that you and your people knew 'the truth'." So... it was their settled conviction that settled convictions are wrong? Why are people so un- self aware?

[@tategarrett3042]

Very good summary of the real post-war consensus.

[@calculatorade]

This was very informative and insightful. Gave me a lot to think about that I never thought about before.

[@johncasey1020]

Interesting, I was just thinking about the dissolution of the post world war consensus this morning.

[@Pdstor]

World War I did even more damage: It (read: the post-first-war Americans) took a look at the post-Enlightenment West and blamed monarchy and the old order, forgetting that they had either all neutered their monarchs or thrown them away or (in the case of Germany) gave them pacifiers and then turned the government over to modern ministers and militarists. We reduced the cause of the First World War to "meaninglessness," even putting up a monument to it as **the** memorial to its then-historic victims. Remember that the whole past century prior to WWI was involved with Europe feeling romance from the "values" of the Enlightenment, tossing off so many monarchs that the Pope of Rome declared his infallibility ex cathedra to counter that very modernism in the 1860's, a whole century before its next council completely embraced modernism. World War I wasn't a war where men died for no reason. They died for reasons that we simply refuse to talk about, even after a second war just like it and a lifetime of a postwar society disintegrating slowly as a result of not confronting the reason why all this happened in the first place. We declared that God was dead and prided ourselves on killing Him; Nietzsche was correct at least in that respect even if he was wrong in agreeing with the conclusion.

[@JarvisTastic]

I've always gotten weird looks when I bring this up. Thank you, pdstor for letting me know that I'm sane or at least there's someone else just as crazy as I am. Everyone contemporarily acts astonished when upending the bathtub gets water all over the floor, even before you start to talk about the baby that was in there.

[@umaikakudo]

4:41 - Doug did mention the antecedents. The French Revolution in 1789 and their Cult of Reason terror was the warning shot across the bow. Nobody listened and the due penalty for the error of idolatry takes a mercifully long time to fully manifest. In truth, secular humanism was birthed by Aristotle and that foul germ was baptized at the Pope's request by "The Doctor" St. Aquanis. It was Aquanis that left man's reason less than fully corrupted by the fall to synthesize Aristotelian Humanism leaving the door open for "I think therefore I am". When no justification could be found for reason in cosmic accidental meat sacs we descended into the "existence precedes essence" anarchy we find ourselves in today. Romans one remains undefeated.

[@Ebdim9th]

Andrew Klavan, with his 'Law of the Jungle" analogy, needs to hear this. Gentle reproof and correction, as iron sharpens iron....

[@michaelbeebe1616]

It won’t even take 200 years.

[@deathgogOG]

Excellent! Been waiting for this.

[@williamboone8992]

Translation: the "Jews" should come to Christ...NOW. Well done!

[@RebekkaMH13]

Translation: Everyone should come to Christ. Now.

[@williamboone8992]

@@RebekkaMH13 Matthew 15:24 Jesus had no problem making a distinction. Do you?

[@TypicalTGreen]

​@@RebekkaMH13 ... "how the 'cage stage-rs' get on my nerves..." 🤐

[@williamboone8992]

​. I know right! Not one mention of the Frankfurt School...talk about epistemological impudence!

[@TypicalTGreen]

@@RebekkaMH13 ...for the record, I mean him... :)

[@niciassmith1204]

I encourage watching Zoomer Historians videos on WW2 and Hitler. Everything you are taught is wrong, all the movies are wrong

[@AndersonWave17]

No better source than Europa Last Battle and the greatest story never told

[@charlescurry8676]

Thank you. I've been struggling with the relativistic moral arguments of my family members. This helps

[@gabenorman747]

He's a clown who defends mass murderers. This comment is absurd.

[@niciassmith1204]

@gabenorman747 Your comment is ignorant, you don't know anything about WW2

[@HomeyGsYT-xc8wr]

7:43 "in the shadow of the mushroom cloud"... Pastor Doug, did you just quote the Queen song, Hammer to Fall? That is a turn of phrase I have not heard in any other place, so, Bravo! if you did. I have heard you quote The Who before, you know, "meet the new boss", for example, so your musical palette brings a smile when I catch you doing it. Growing up in the 70s, Queen was my favorite band, until I learned what a queen was, with regards to the singer. But I was drawn to them by the musicianship of his bandmates anyway, not him. Demon Hunter is my favorite band now. Check out "Fear Is Not My Guide". An achingly beautiful masterpiece of a slow song, for a mostly metal band.

[@gilland2000]

Really beautifully written, Brother.

[@christophertaylor9100]

I mean, the girl in the class must be certain she's right about Christians, one presumes. But yeah... that has always bothered me: what IS the "crime against humanity" and based upon what?? Clearly they did evil but relativism gives no basis to condemn them but who holds the power.

[@JeanJoseIsabelle]

Devastating criticism of secularism.

[@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf]

Great commentary.

[@lkae4]

I asked for it. Well done, sir.

[@cosmictreason2242]

Sounds like Moscow and Ogden are in near perfect agreement. Why the disputes then?

[@RebekkaMH13]

I don't think Doug has spoken out against Ogden. If I missed something, I'd appreciate a link or time stamp or something?

[@cosmictreason2242]

@ the kings hall podcast from two weeks ago. Cold open Explains the pastors of both churches have tried to reconcile and been unable

[@RebekkaMH13]

@@cosmictreason2242 Wait, they made a three hour long podcast and didn't explain the heart of the issue / disagreement? I hadn't gotten around to it, but it seems I didn't miss much. 😅

[@thebishopoftherailway4719]

@@RebekkaMH13 They DID explain the heart of the issue.

[@cosmictreason2242]

@ they did...

[@elizabethharris382]

Thank you for this clear analysis and for the courage to speak the truth!

[@jacob_maier]

Vintage uncle Doug

[@InkLore-p3h]

So there are no crimes against humanity, because they ought instead to be properly called crimes against God.

[@JimmyRustle1089]

Came here to hit pause and let yall know that I’m not watching anything Doug has to say about WWII, the PWC, or his strange love for the nation of Israel. Get it together Doug.

[@MACA_1776]

Awesome can we expect you and right response to start working together again now?

[@cileford]

Christ or chaos

[@topkapi9351]

Still no shaking hands and making up on the horizon, I see.

[@oldhouselabs2011]

😢😢😢 looks like no for now! Still praying it will come!!

[@llhpark]

On the train to doom, the windows are painted black. Narrow is the gate and wide is the road to destruction. That said, and assuming the paths run parallel, one can infer the benefits of proximity and time, where lane hopping is at least optional and or, in both case. When the courses run truly perpendicular, each will likely view the other side abstractly, or from 30,000 ft. Bombs away.

[@MorDikEye-n-Rigby]

You said Moscow, you mean Moscow idaho? I ask because I am in pullman

[@kaylar3197]

Yep, that’s right.

[@ChrisPetrocchi]

Ok, that could take a semester to disassemble and then re-imbibe. Where’s my DeepSeek at?

[@michaellautermilch9185]

Great post. This really shows how the post-war consensus was untethered pragmatism that let people do what they already wanted to do. In a similar way, it feels rather pragmatic to be willing to try to correct this error by working with Tobias to slander a fellow pastor. I agree with your target but not your methods.

[@shanpastaflocka]

Boost

[@WARTV-dn5fk]

Doug, imiytk, that like all English boys, I was brought up to believe that WE, Great Britain, won the war, which is why we have American airforce bases here, I guess 😃

[@EdiTheDon]

Crimes against mankind rather. Humans are godmen, and we have proved over the millenia that we are anything but.

[@Roger-r7s]

We'll the problem here and I speak as a Christian believer not a secularist, is that condemning secularism is just a way of trying to shift the blame for the awful record of evil and corruption being justified and often enough committed by those who claim to be Christian. There is NONE righteous no not even one, (especially not the accomodations made by so called good Christians to the surrounding pervasive capitalist idolatry petty bourgeois puerile mediocrity) if you think that returning and backsliding to the good old days where the culture was not so much Christian as it was a thin veneer of high minded idealism that covers up a debased corrupt pagan core, you couldn't be more wrong. This is especially true when it comes from the patriarchal and authoritarian structures that the scriptures affirm(which are appropriate for their times and for a people who are in a fallen and primitive condition of cultural, moral, political, economic, spiritual, and wisdom immaturity) which can easily become the template for tyranny and fascism. So all the clever philosophical arguments for cultural Christianity over the secularist worldview leaves the practical problems of that Christian culture and civilizations failures and contradictions as still fundamentally unsolved.Hence no form of cultural or religious conservatism can or will be able to provide any adequate answers to the present worldview and social order construction difficulties. Yes we do need to reaffirm the Christian faith, culture and values, and worldview but there also needs to be humility and honesty about the willingness of the professing Christian community to conform itself to the world and it's ways and it's failure to bring the radical transformational power of the resurrection and gospel of salvation and redemption and the visionary new creation of God into its progressively unfolding incarnate realization in this present grace age dispensation.

[@brentheltonj6308]

I think Trump is taking applications for advisors Mr Wilson should apply for spiritual advisor!!!!!!!

[@tonyseiber55]

Solid. Doug at his best

[@tomchidwick]

I want a Christian Nation in the sense that God is glorified by the people of that nation. I DO NOT want a Christian Nation in the sense that the people of that nation would be coerced/forced into glorifying Him. Our terms matter. The first sense is how this nation was born. The second sense is why this nation was born. Though you quoted Lewis, Tolkien, and Schaeffer (some of my absolute favorites) I'm afraid you did not make the above distinctions well enough, if at all Doug. Freedom is God's invention. We better be VERY circumspect how we interfere with those freedoms.

[@eric_eagle]

You sound very demanding for someone who wants “freedom.”

[@tomchidwick]

@@eric_eagle Tone Police? Already?? Wow, you guys are quick these days.

[@eric_eagle]

@@tomchidwick Not tone, I don’t care about tone. I just find the almost tyrannical insistence on freedom to be implemented in your desired way to be a bit ironic. Nothing personal, it’s just a little humorous.

[@tomchidwick]

​@@eric_eagle "tyrannical insistence on freedom". Please explain. Were America's Founding Fathers tyrannical, by your estimation? As I heard it, they fought against tyranny and for freedom. Is God Himself "tyrannical"? He created us to be free. I'm genuinely curious now. Please square that circle for me.

[@johnredacted5141]

Doug, please stop talking about WW2, Nazis, and the Jews. you have many other skills that are admirable. this is not one of them.

[@theMolluskMan]

Sadly, I think he is far too entrenched in the false narrative.

[@spiritandflesh8477]

@@theMolluskManwhat is the false narrative?

[@liveluke9.236]

@@spiritandflesh8477that Doug isn’t on their side of things. It’s all very school yard crying.

[@jessetoler8171]

Yes, might makes right, and frankly the existence of God has little (none) effect on the presupposition.

[@Luiz__Silva]

The statement is inconsistent. If God exists, He will judge much more severely the powerful in this world and, in the grand scheme of things, will bring justice to all. Now, if God does not exist, then there is no right (or wrong). Furthermore, even though some are blind to that, God has done a lot to restrain evil in this planet. History don't lack examoles of people who had big plans but show were frustrated by God. Some of these examples are even told in the Bible, like Nebuchadnezzar and king Herod. So, the existence of God does make all the difference and has made all the difference. If it wasn't by God, humanity would have destroyed itself long ago.

[@Yesica1993]

Found the totalitarian!

[@cileford]

Christ or chaos

[@mrich21087]

Moscow edit: Or Judeo Christian