ERA Invincible - A Great Idea with a Major Flaw

[@majorzbzzn]

Bump pin as presented by Dev - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGe6dJhjab2EabM

[@LockNoob]

Thank you! I thought it was anti bump! Though I suspect it can also work as an anti over lift pin too as a few people have said :-)

[@LockNoob]

I really get what ERA were thinking when I made this, but I also understand why it didn’t really catch on. Great fun pick though and a very well made lock all in all :-)

[@forric23]

Agreed its not a very popular lock with locksmiths simply because its incompatible with standard euro profile lock cases and handles. But 10 out of 10 for being a pain in the neck. Which is what I think they were going for if a rogue is walking around with a euro snapper he ain't snapping that profile lol 😂

[@forric23]

I'm not sure why you pick it upside down as this isn't how you will find them installed in a door. IMHO picking them the right way up is a totally different experience.

[@LockNoob]

Sure. But I’m a hobby picker and I pick locks in my study, not in the cold and rain with a locked out bunch of crying children and stressed parents looking over my shoulder, so the whole setup is unrealistic. I pick euros both ways, but I prefer pins up :-)

[@bikkies]

Fascinating. Now I finally know what those weird discs are in my gutting kit. They're segmented followers. I can see how they'd be useful if you can't remove the internal side core and cam to pass a normal follower through, but I could see myself having gaps appear between adjacent mini followers & having driver pins jumping out all over the place. Even though I doubt I'll ever use them, it's nice to have a piece of the puzzle solved. Segmented followers.

[@EnzoGuardino]

That's a a behemoth of a lock. Good job picking and gutting. Perhaps it was made to spec for new housing estates or apartment blocks, where the doors were pre-made to accommodate them. In that case, the after market sales would be guaranteed to the new homes over the years. I'm thinking of new housing in crime prone areas, hence the beefed up construction and anti-everything tech. Oh, and it might also explain why it has master wafers, too. 🤔 Anyway, I love the brushed finish on it. 👍

[@LockNoob]

I like your thinking, very possibly you’re right :-)

[@roysammons2445]

A few people here have commented the same as I was thinking. That the unusual pin and spring could be to stop you using a comb pick. Having said that the warding looks like it might do a good job to stop a comb pick attack. Fantastically picked and gutted. I have used those segment followers a few times and its a real pain when gutting.

[@LockNoob]

It could be anti lift, but the warding would do that job. Possibly though :-)

[@MelvinTheGrate]

That pin extending up into the spring is an anti-comb feature, ensuring that the whole pin stack can't be pushed above the shear line.

[@LockNoob]

Could be, but the warding is too tight for most overlifting techniques I feel kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGe6dJhjab2EabM

[@tonyholt90]

Good luck with putting that fiddley lock back together. I held my breath as you come to the end of the gutting. Definitely that profile would cost to much for the customer to change so that wouldn't really take off! Nice video..

[@LockNoob]

It was horrible to put back together, but I did it :-)

[@Dazzc2011]

These cylinders aren't very common as they require a non standard handle and non standard MPL (the actual locking mechanism and strip which fits inside the door). An interesting cylinder very well picked!

[@LockNoob]

Thank you :-)

[@Potti314]

Quite an unusual lock, I would have bet this lock will not sell widely. Thanks for sharing. Really enjoyed the picking.

[@NigelTolley]

It didn't. It is now obsolete. Which makes things awkward for the customer wanting a thumbturn set for his door!

[@LockNoob]

Yeah, it was a poor gamble by ERA. I still like it as a collectible though :-)

[@tennesseelockpicking8803]

Very cool lock. I've seen those pin in spring pins before. But they where slot shorter and made of brass. Thanks for sharing.👍👍

[@LockNoob]

This one is a very strong spring and a real pain to put back together, lol :-)

[@tennesseelockpicking8803]

@@LockNoob sounds like fun lol

[@Petertronic]

A new one to me, thanks for showing it!

[@LockNoob]

Thank you :-)

[@robwebber1217]

Those segmented followers are ok with 5 pin locks, but they come in sets of 3, as you say, 4 would be handy for bigger euro cylinders. That lock was beaten with an ugly stick though lol. Good pick. :-)

[@LockNoob]

I think it’s cute, lol :-)

[@Steel-Pinnings]

Very cool reach back in time. Obviously made to combat snapping profile cylinders. It is also obvious that they didn't want their lock to be a replacement but a whole new purchase. But with the vast majority of locks being of the same profile there are replacement cores that take and beat the challenge of snapping. Thanks for sharing bro, great info!!!

[@LockNoob]

Yeah, it’s a gamble that just didn’t pay off :-)

[@PocketWomen]

Nice picking. Interesting pins, such a statement on the anti bump pin. cheers

[@LockNoob]

It could be anti bump and lift :-)

[@martinwinlow]

Had to remove on of these of a holiday cottage (belonging to my employer!) today and found the only way past the hardened steel anti-drill protection (in both barrel and body) was to use a small oxy-gas torch on the barrel having drilled it out as far as the steel protection plate. Once past this I drilled out all the tumblers to release the barrel. I'd normally drill just below the barrel with a 7mm drill such that the top of the drilled hole just meets the barrel (in the usual way).

[@AlbertLebel]

What a beautiful lock. Outstanding job picking and gutting also. I really enjoyed this one. Thank you...

[@LockNoob]

Thanks :-)

[@obijanjebrave]

Never seen something like this before. Thanks for sharing with us! 👍

[@LockNoob]

Yes, it’s a really cool lock :-)

[@stevehenke678]

Great video, N00b. Long time no watch but your standard hasn't dipped. 👍

[@LockNoob]

You are always welcome here my friend :-)

[@Ghost_Os]

0.5 inch magnets would probably make good improvised segmented plug followers, or good extenders when you don't have enough length. Or half inch thick dowels if you cut them at a true 90 degrees. Or LOTS of washers, lol. This of course assumes a cylinder diameter of .5" or .498", unsure if this is the case with Euro locks. Where do you get your segmented followers? I've never run across the need for them, so never sought them out. Nice video, and nice job on the lock.

[@LockNoob]

Hmmm, washers is a good idea, I like that :-)

[@BD90..]

Seen this...most manufacturing companies of hardware and locks don't want to change the profile.

[@LockNoob]

Absolutely :-)

[@chriscapune7873]

Interesting lock! Nice picking! Brilliant gutting!!! I have never been able to use the segmented followers with out complete disaster!! 🤣 Well done!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@LockNoob]

Yes, those segmented followers are really stressful to use! :-)

[@TallanPick]

Awesome lock! beautiful design, definitely a collector item. Great picking and gutting of course, never seen that antibumping pin before. Very very interesting video my friend, thanks for showing ;o))

[@LockNoob]

It’s such a cool lock... if you’re a picker :-) not so practical in real life though. Hope you have fun with yours :-)

[@TallanPick]

@@LockNoob Ohhh my friend, I just make the opening vid of your parcel and I´m blow away, what an amazing parcel!! love the ERA my friend, you can be sure that I will enjoy mine ;o)))))

[@Swynndla]

Wow you can pick such tough locks! :D :D I'm so glad you saying what you're doing every step of the way so we can learn! Thank you!

[@Swynndla]

I was thinking about that strange long pin ... instead of an anti-bump pin, it might be an anti-comb pin?

[@LockNoob]

I think both :-)

[@NigelTolley]

You should've pointed out the anti-snap cam design on the Euro cylinder used for comparison!

[@LockNoob]

I wish I had the new version of this lock. I’ll get one one day if I see one at a good price :-)

[@forric23]

That long pin is an anti comb pick /overlift measure

[@roysammons2445]

I thought the same thing. I guess the warding would also make a comb pick nigh on impossible to use.

[@NigelTolley]

@@roysammons2445 Also upsets bumpkeys.

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

It's unlikely you'd get a comb pick in the keyway with that warding.

[@LockNoob]

I think it’s anti bump and lift kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGe6dJhjab2EabM

[@SasPes]

Cool lock and pins, well done 😉 Bravo 🍻👏👍

[@LockNoob]

Thank you :-)

[@pickbeard2690]

Nice to see what's inside,I really should have another go at opening mine. I remember it being a fun lock to master 🤔🤔👍😎🍺😘

[@LockNoob]

The springs are really strong and the keyway is a little tight so it’s a fun lock for sure :-)

[@gilessparkes2699]

Great vid, every day is a school day, never seen the segmented follower before, where did you get them from? Many thanks for explaining

[@LockNoob]

It’s from the HUK alock Dissasembly Kit you can buy on many of the Chinese Bangood type sites :-)

[@Toni302V8]

Nice one Ash! Strangely the one you sent me had even more pins with a total of 20 on each side. I've posted the guts on ukls on 25 December in the what you picked today thread if you'd like to see.

[@LockNoob]

There are even pins UNDERNEATH the springs as spacers. I think ERA must have had a surplace to hide, lol :-)

[@cherokee8647]

Nice job LN. Yes I was thinking about putting it back together....slowly. LOL 👍👍👍👍🧡

[@thelockpickinglebowski633]

Yeah, Noob, driver #4 looks very similar to the Ilco Bump Halt system but with slightly longer components.

[@LockNoob]

Yes, probably an anti bump and lift :-)

[@timbober1]

The locks on my doors are pitiful compared to euro cylinders. Enjoyed the video, I would have a box full parts cause I’d never get that lock together again. :(

[@LockNoob]

It took a while to carefully get it back together but I did it :-)

[@lockpickingindependentant-2919]

Complimenti bella apertura 👍

[@LockNoob]

Thank you :-)

[@lmars5933]

NEAVER have I heard or seen on very interesting. And good luck ..😎

[@LockNoob]

Thank you :-)

[@lockmania-locks]

Awsome job My Friend

[@LockNoob]

Thank you :-)

[@CryoseGaming]

seems like a good design to combat a standard issue with low skill lock attacks, shame it wasn't a more widely accepted design

[@Leonslockpad]

Very cool Ash my friend I have one of these brand new myself not picked it yet😂😊😎😊😎🇬🇧

[@LockNoob]

Fun lock with surprisingly strong springs! :-)

[@dazevers]

Very nicely pick AND gutted, I completely get the concept, but as you said just not practical. Great video my friend. P.s interesting driver in chamber 4. 👍

[@LockNoob]

Thanks Daz, stressfully Gutting though :-)

[@keithroberts5946]

Holding my breath hoping that the gutting went OK Nice to see segmented follower being used - if you didn't have those how would you gut a euro lock?

[@LockNoob]

A pining shoe and/or a front follower. Alternatively you could cut 1/2 inch dowel into 10mm sections making your own :-)

[@PINKFL0YD-s2h]

2 great makes

[@LockNoob]

Thanks!

[@VicariousReality7]

Literally never seen an ERA in sweden or online before

[@LockNoob]

They are really popular in the U.K. :-)

[@U8uxa8SP]

Interesting lock, good pick. Thanks for the video.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks!

[@Meeffoc]

My new built house in UK came with those. Are they actually secure from your perspective? The way you said they seemed an old design, but I don’t know much about lockers, just wondering if I should invest in the door hardware to change it all for a standard eurocylinder

[@DonzLockz]

That's really weird, so it's just like an obese Euro cylinder?😆 I've never seen that profile before. 🍺😎

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

Ditto. It's rather odd.

[@LockNoob]

Yeah, it’s a cool one for the collection :-)

[@eoinoconnor3596]

Is there anywhere you can actually buy these anymore?

[@LockNoob]

You’d have to look on eBay I think 🤔

[@VicariousReality7]

*QUESTION:* how the fuck did they get the driver pins and springs in there?

[@LockNoob]

With great care :-)

[@AThreeDogNight]

So did it take steroids? LOL!!!! Thanks for showing this lock, like that idea myself. Good picking Ash. Prevents raising above shearline.

[@LockNoob]

It could be anti lift and bump :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGe6dJhjab2EabM

[@stratsteveo106]

Yale style looking key way?

[@LockNoob]

It is very similar :-)

[@bird718]

you should of never picked open that lock. ERA will Commission a new Invincible Class Lock, give it 4 stars and send it to HMNB Portsmouth to keep it safe from you.

[@LockNoob]

Lol :-)

[@mattsadventureswithart5764]

Don't leave it with the skimmers! :P

[@stig..locks..r956]

well done noob man bitt of a weired lock but nice as well well picked didn't look easy butt well done u should be an inventer mate you would be loaded with all your exerlent ideas thanks stiglocks..r..

[@LockNoob]

That hardest part is coming up with the ideas :-)

[@NoctisMotus]

An odd-looking thing.

[@LockNoob]

Sure is :-)

[@cardiffpicker1]

Absolutely hate these locks,they only fit into era lock mechanisms which will obviously break because the are crap. You turned up on site to failed mech and either have to strip and rebuild the mechanism with parts from standard gearbox (because nobody carries these),or change handle gearbox and cylinder.

[@LockNoob]

Nightmare for lock smiths but fun for locksporters 😁