Yale Bicentric Mortice Cylinder Lock Pick and Gut

[@LockNoob]

Thank you to @LegalLockPicker for sending me this fun lock. It’s a fascinating mechanism! 👍🔐😃 Watch me reassemble this over on my side channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5mTiqVrqMahf9k

[@jamesbp]

@legallockpicker got some great stuff!! He loans so many awesome locks for the community.

[@kohencarlos1522]

i realize it's pretty randomly asking but do anyone know of a good website to stream newly released tv shows online?

[@tonywiersielis2315]

The gears on that cylinder are out of time. The cams should be one behind the other. This is not designed for both keys to operate at the same time. What the key fits into is called a plug. A core is an interchangeable core that pulls out in it’s entirety with a special key. I’ve been doing this for almost 40 years. What would help you understand what you’re looking at would be a locksmith correspondence course that includes materials for projects that you complete and return for grading. I can suggest one for you if you’d like. I realize you’re across the pond but in most places possession of the picking tools is a crime. If you can, contact me and maybe I can explain things better. Tont

[@MelvinTheGrate]

When I interviewed at MIT in Cambridge, Mass. many years ago, those cylinders were on all the doors. They were a method of master keying, absolutely not dual custody, and either key could operate the lock. I believe this cylinder is the same way, and either tailpiece can be turned independently.

[@LockNoob]

Interesting!

[@GenTech365]

Great channel. You recently got me into lock picking as a hobby.

[@realtaiter3991]

Welcome to the sport my man.

[@LockNoob]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@RWBHere]

That would have been quite an expensive lock, with over 50 parts, including keys and fittings, and probably not very many sold. Nicely picked, Ash! Thanks.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 🙏

[@Xabeno]

Ash you are one of the best pickers on KZbin, I would love you to do a video on your light picking style. It would help beginners as from my understanding you rarely break picks.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊

[@boneinthebox]

This has been on my wishlist for awhile now. Nice showcase.

[@LockNoob]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@bradw0535]

Very cool! Always enjoy seeing the uncommon locks, great picking as always, thank you sir! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@LockNoob]

Thanks for watching!

[@EdocDab]

Very strange pins indeed. I've made such followers after watching your earlier video. Whenever I gut a lock, I use them. They work really well and take no space👍

[@Osirus1972]

Great looking lock. Brass and gears, what a combo. I am also a watch geek so brass and gears are my jam as well. Hehe. Well done, Ash! Cheers!

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 👍

[@keithroberts5946]

What an unusual looking lock Very interesting design Thanks for sharing

[@LockNoob]

Thanks for watching!

[@et9775]

Awesome content Sir! Your narration and explanatory skills always have me smiling. What an interesting lock as well. Thank you! -ET-

[@arrrg3846]

Super unique lock! Excellent presentation! I watched the reassembly first. 😳 It's a different perspective to wonder what all these parts will make. Wow! What a concentration of parts! Thanks for the video, really enjoyed it!

[@LockNoob]

Thanks for watching!

[@lauxmyth]

Old Yale used partially compensated drivers so short key pins get long drivers and the reverse also. The sixth pin in the lower had a long key pin with a long driver. I would suspect this key was changed by somebody following out the plug and changing only the key pins. This has the effect of over-compressing the spring. (It can trap the key as the driver has no way to travel up enough but then the person doing it would have to correct the problem.) And it was redone in bad ways given that flat filed top of the plug. Only ones I saw in function were not dual custody but rather part of the master key tree. Different gear system on back. One plug was not mastered and was a controlled high level key. The other plug was and has area masters and change keys.

[@jeffmoss26]

These are lovely locks!!

[@LockNoob]

Sure are!

[@geoffowen7627]

Awesome lock, those pins look like the ones you can find in cheap Chinese clones, really weird. Great work as always thank you.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks for watching!

[@brandons7272]

"I've got someone in the locksport community who might be able to cut me some keys " LPL!!

[@thumperlockpicking9269]

Beautiful lock, great job picking this. Always wanted a lock, or cylinder that had two key ways. Great video

[@KomenCents]

Whaaaattttt! Just started the video lol This looks awesome! Never EVER seen one before

[@dazevers]

Wow such an awesome lock, I really hope you manage to get some keys for it. Great video as always. 😎👍

[@LockNoob]

Thanks Daz mate!! 👍

[@gedd6750]

Nice lock,great pick 👍 Off over to Side noob to watch the reassembly of that cool lock.

[@LockNoob]

Awesome!

[@roysammons2445]

A crazy Yale lock with what almost looks like cheap Chinese pins. The keyway certainly doesn't look like it's a Yale. Well done on the open, two opens for the price of one.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊

[@Chuycabra]

Such an interesting lock design!

[@LockNoob]

It really is!

[@grainorice8293]

Really cool lock. I finally have those grenade pins inspired by your munition pins on their way to you.

[@LockNoob]

Awesome! Are you saying they are in the post?

[@grainorice8293]

@@LockNoob Yep, sent Thursday your time.

[@tonyholt90]

That's a neat lock definitely great for the collection. Definitely something odd with those pins.

[@LockNoob]

Indeed!

[@Leonslockpad]

wow Ash mate what a very cool lock great job😊😎👊🇬🇧🤟👍

[@LockNoob]

Thanks Leon mate!! 👍

[@gkeyman565]

nice lock and picking, That lock may be for a hotel room type one for renter one for housekeeping / Managment Have a great day Also can you show a good picture of the keyways on either channel? It's probably to late , but if you repin it with 0 cut pins it will be easy to disassemble, insert blank key or flat pick

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊 You too!!

[@alger8181]

A clockwork lock. Very cool.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊

[@hebrewhooligan5462]

Hey so the locking tab thingie that is in 2 pieces so you can change the length and how it locks to what ever its in. We have one at work that is the same type and thats what was told to me by the old guy that works on them.

[@LockNoob]

👍

[@paracentric6188]

Love it! You get all the cool stuff. Signed, a big fan.

[@LockNoob]

I appreciate that!

[@herdimmunityonpocketsofvul6751]

Why settle on one If you could have two ..

[@LockNoob]

Indeed!

[@72cmcinc]

Very cool lock and excellent gut job!

[@LockNoob]

Thanks!

[@Nicks-Picks]

I remember the LLP video when that appeared, along with some other very cool lock, as you'd expect. I must say I'm rather the green eyed monster. 😍👍

[@LockNoob]

😁

[@mikecassidy2169]

Hastily keyed-alike at some point. Great content and presentation.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 🙏

[@DonzLockz]

You are lucky to get one, hope you get some keys for it. Well picked and gutted, I'd be too scared to gut it. :)

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 👍

[@targuscinco]

Those come out of chastity belts. The woman gets a key and the guy gets a key. Everyone is happy and honest!

[@thecrappylockpicker4696]

What a great lock I’ve been trying to get one of those you see them come up in Australia occasionally but are very expensive great video 👍🏻

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 👍

[@jeancerrien3016]

Neat lock! I imagine the extra plate on the back is to stop the key, with or without the tailpiece. Strange that the sixth driver pin is longer than the other five yet not above the shortest key pin.

[@LockNoob]

Yeah, the insides are a bit of a mess

[@chriscapune7873]

A wonderful lock!!!! I have that model and it has keys. The bottom lock key has PF stamped on it and the top lock has SE stamped on it. That would be the key ways. Can’t remember if mine had spools in it or not🧐 I have an older version of this with the older Yale logo as well. Same key way stamps on them. You should be able to get those keys and pin up😃 For the really rare locks fans there is a old padlock version of these . All super cool for the collection!! Have posted all mine on my channel. Can’t remember the video numbers?? But can find if there is interest. Stay safe my friend 🐾🐈🐈‍⬛🐾😷🇬🇧👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@LockNoob]

Its very cool!

[@KomenCents]

Yo man this was such a cool lock. I did enjoy that!

[@LockNoob]

Thanks 🙏

[@andy123law]

Lovely pry bar 😂👍🏻

[@LockNoob]

Yeah lol 😂

[@campbellsquires8096]

Sweet vid!

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊

[@sebastiannielsen]

No this isn't dual control. One of the tailpieces rotate with one of the cylinder, and the other tailpiece rotates with the other cylinder. Meaning this is a way of having 2 keys (one "apartment key" and one "master key") independently operate the lock. It usually also comes with a faceplate that is rotatable, so the renter's lock would be on the bottom and always visible, when landlord wants to come in, he would rotate the faceplate 180 degrees. HOWEVER! Such locks require the right mortise lock to work correctly. Some mortise locks DO connect the cylinder actuator to the bolt itself, then this lock will become a dual custody lock. The right type of mortise locks this is made for, is those locks that have a locking mechanism (bar, lever etc) which the actuator only moves or touches to release the lock. This means either actuator can trigger the lock, thus becoming a independently keyed lock. Also the reason one of the actuators are turned, is to prevent the renter from removing the lock without having the landlord's key, so the renter couldn't deny his landlord access. You couldn't however turn it 90 degrees, because some locks have their trigger mechanism at 90 degrees.

[@LockNoob]

Good to know

[@vicenterivera5693]

Good job!

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊

[@Salsuero]

A steel pin is often an anti-drill effort.

[@LockNoob]

for sure

[@leglesslockpicker]

Cool lock!! I like it, was the bottom core in the open persistion to begin with? If you open the first core all the way the mortis would be open.

[@LockNoob]

Thanks! 👍😊

[@FirebrandVOCALS]

Dual control... two people probably need to be present to open

[@LockNoob]

I think so

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

And no Fluke got hurt?

[@mike_magnet_fishing]

Great video lock noob, I have a collection of vintage yale keys, I'll send you a msg on UK lock sport forum

[@LockNoob]

Thanks!

[@jaquma322]

Hey lock Noob, thank you for answering my question about you table vice. I was wondering if you do lock trading? I have a nice 1920’s german lever lock. I don’t haver tools to pick lever locks and I want to be good at tumblers first :)

[@LockNoob]

I do trade sometimes

[@jaquma322]

@@LockNoob if you have an email for it, I can send a couple pictures, see if you’re interested

[@jimmyolano929]

Very strange lock!

[@GeorgeBrown-sx9tp]

Hey Lock Noob thats a safety deposit lock

[@LockNoob]

Thanks