Fanatec CSL DD & GT DD Pro Ideal Force Feedback Settings

[@Ermz]

Quick addendum: There's a cut missing from the intro, where I mentioned that these settings are for the 8Nm, Boost Kit version. To tailor the settings to the 5Nm version, simply take the Force Feedback Gain in any situation and lift it by around 20%.

[@stenyak]

Regarding BeamNG.drive, I advise not choosing "Automatic" filter but "Wheel" filter as a rule of thumb. Reason being, some direct drive wheel models don't self-identify as a steering wheel. They will fool BeamNG.drive into thinking it's dealing with a gamepad or joystick, and 'Auto' will then apply smoothers to the steering signal. You don't want that in a steering wheel. This is not an issue with the CSL DD, but it may be in other wheels (such as the SW20). For more info, see the official docs here: documentation.beamng.com/support/hardware/steering_wheel_setup/#steering-binding

[@Exodard]

Thank god for the addendum! I have a 5 Nm DD and I was not feeling anything at 70% in ACC... I thought my unit was not working as it was only moving on curbs or on the grass

[@MIMCKMedia]

I got the same problem with Forza Motorsport 8. it looks like there is always a signal lag for Wheel input to game output @@stenyak

[@fioralbannach6647]

I came here after I received my CSL DD; thanks a lot Ermin, for your effort here👏👍 Really helpful. It’s guys like you in the community, that make our simracing lives, a lot easier😉

[@kobrinchenko]

Hi, how is your csl dd? Everything is ok?

[@Explodeo]

This video is STILL relevant man, amazing post thank you so much for going into the detail!

[@AnotherWatchChannel]

I have a DD1, and then I got this (PS CSL DD 8nM), and honestly.. it feels like 50-60% of the DD1 power (10-12nM) at 100% on CSL DD. Maybe its just more intense, but its actually very impressive. Selling my DD1 now.

[@Xav1ez]

Regarding iRacing, you can access the "auto" button for FFB from the "In-Car settings" black box, where you also are able to increase and decrease the FFB strength. That way you can drive a lap, hit the auto button and keep driving until you find the sweet spot without having to go back to the menu. Also, never adjust your peak FFB after a lap where you had any impacts or went off track, in any sim. :)

[@Doubledunk]

why never adjust your peak FFB after crash?

[@Xav1ez]

@@Doubledunk Because when you crash you will have peak forces much higher than you'll ever experience when not crashing, so if you adjust your FFB for those not to clip then you will be getting less strength and detail when just driving. You don't really care if the FFB is clipping when you are crashing, its not useful information anyways.

[@andrewowens6191]

Thanks for this! Would really appreciate F1 2021 settings

[@Dagiantkilla]

Thanks, Ermin. This is much appreciated. Definitely will refer back to this video when my unit arrives.

[@PaulRKeeble]

Euro Truck Simulator 2/ATS and F1 would both be useful I think.

[@Theferrariguy]

I found ets2 worked good with my Assetto Corsa settings

[@ry0k904]

lmao u guys buy fanatec to play ETS ? :D

[@Theferrariguy]

@@ry0k904 so what do you use yours for?

[@ry0k904]

@@Theferrariguy iracing and assetto

[@Theferrariguy]

@@ry0k904 dw we've time to use them there too

[@williamgreen9127]

This is great as just bought it and didnt know what settings to use in order to maximise the experience fully. Still debating spending almost as much on the heusinkveld pedals as my entire rig setup. Great content on what we need to hear☆

[@edemir3947]

I have the heusinkveld sprints, and I have to say it is without a doubt the most important element in the hardware food chain. It has an almost immediate impact on your consistency and has a very intutive UI to dial in the response you like

[@williamgreen9127]

@E Demir Thanks that has swayed my opinion to get one and will be here in a few weeks ") I had heard so many good things and i just hope now my rig can hold all of these powerful items

[@Toutvids]

My CSL DD is arriving next week, I will be coming back to this video for some settings. Excellent info.

[@edteach3r]

I don't know how I missed this video. It has solved all my AC FFB frustrations! Thank you for an excellent tutorial, Ermin.

[@Morcs33]

Just used these settings for iracing and dropped a full second off my time at interlagos . Thanks :)

[@carlslagle8399]

Really appreciate the effort you put into this, Ermin. Thanks!

[@tracklizard4018]

AFAIK ACC DOES have a per car FFB adjustment, but it's hidden. You can use the numpad to change FFB and it'll save in a file with the specific car. Look into your documents for a json, and you should fine one where there is every car you've ever driven. Some of them might be 0.9342 or 1.123 etc.

[@israelmorales838]

You are a lifesaver, I’ve been struggling to get my settings right on AC, ACC and AMS2 and finally, they feel just right now. Again a huge thanks!!!

[@Rawbful]

A tip for AC… get the ffbclip app. Has a nice graph to show you last bit of time on the ffb signal so you don’t have to stare at it on a turn. I set the app to manual mode and it will even suggest highest gain without clipping. It also has an auto mode that will constantly set it for you but I don’t recommend this mode as once you set this for a car you don’t really want it changing on you.

[@tylerquinn1330]

is this an app in ac already, or a separate like sidekick ?

[@dompeha540]

@@tylerquinn1330its on RaceDepartment

[@JZStudiosonline]

BeamNG actually simulates power steering, thus having the huge variance in FFB. If you want something more in line across all cars you can just remove the power steering modules and save some weight. Otherwise it's better to set it with a high downforce car with no power steering and just leave it alone for more realistic results. The early 2000's FWD not a Camry does not and should not have the same FFB strength as a GT3 with no power steering.

[@TheRouskoff]

Živ i zdrav bio Ermine!

[@andreafonso8750]

I would definitely like seeing your suggestions for dirt rally 2.0. Thanks

[@Brandon_Mishima]

I agree lol

[@stevebobowski3507]

@@Brandon_Mishima please, +1

[@CaptainBaldBeard]

What an amazing, incredible video. Extremely helpful to the community, Ermin. Many thanks!

[@GameraS2K]

I followed the advice of the fanatec forum for AC and the FFB was doo doo. Came to this video and it's much better. Thanks a lot

[@abuelb]

CSL DD Settings ACC Sen: 540 FFB: 100 FFS: LINEAR NDP:100 NFR: 100 NIN: 100 INT: 1 FEI: 50 FOR: 100 SPR: 120 DPR: 120 BRF: 20 BLI: 10 INGAME GAIN: 100 MIN FORCE: 0 DAMPER: 80 DYN DAMPING: 180 ROAD EFFECT: 50 STEER LOCK: 540 FFB MULTIPLIER: 1.5

[@abuelb]

CSL DD settings AC (Peak Settings) Sen: 900 FF: 100 FFS: Peak NDP: 100 NFR: 100 NIN: 100 INT: 1 FEI: 50 FOR: 90 SPR: 100 DPR: 100 BRF: 20 BLI: 10 INGAME FFB GAIN: 150 Filter: 0 Min force: 0 Kerb effects: 150 ROAD EFFECTS: 50 Slip effect: 0 Abs effect: 0 Enhanced understeer fx: unchecked Soft lock: checked Center boost gain: 100 Center boost range: 0 Enable ffb post-processing: checked Gamma: 75 Low speed threshold: 0 Low speed ffb strength: 100 Unlock experimental options: checked Gyroscopic effect:checked Damper gain: 90 Minimum damper level: 90 Axis Steering: 1080 degrees Gamma: 1.00 Scale: 100% Brakes: from 0 to 50% Gamma: 2.40 Set your ffb controller (pullside menu on the right) from 50 to 100 depending on type of car.

[@keenankircher7492]

Wow dude I watched this specifically for beaming drive and just wow, it feels so good I can finally drift with confidence and set up any car to feel good

[@mystikmeg]

Brilliant. This stuff is a pain so a pleasure to follow this easy guide to quickly set all the sims up 👍🏻

[@DeanoDrives]

To anybody that is coming from a G27 - if you are using a custom lut file please remember to disable that first! After I had set my wheel up, it felt like poo and I didn't know why! Crazy oscillations on the straight when I let go of the wheel All is good now though and it feels amazing

[@YpowT]

If I could upvote this comment 100 times I would - I completely forgot I was using a custom LUT file with the game for my G27, was wondering why it felt a bit odd!

[@pauljackson4976]

What is a custom lut file? I have come from a G29 & using iracing.

[@DeanoDrives]

@@pauljackson4976 look up table With this file you can edit the ffb strength. So you can make a 5% signal feel like 8%, 6% feel like 9% etc. Its used by many to boost the low end forces on logitech wheels.

[@al_kru]

Cheers Ermz, just started playing modded content on AC for PC, your FFB settings feel really good & sidekick is a great app. subbed! 👍

[@Blakey748]

Great helpful video! Waiting for my CSL DD to arrive soon 😃 Some F1 2021 settings would be really good to see if you find the time

[@jordanarguilla378]

Thank you! AC and ACC is a much better experience thanks to you ^^! Really appreciate it!

[@denniscalosso5000]

That’s so useful! I got my csl dd today, with the f1 2021 wheel, and upgrading from a g29 I really din’t konw how and where to begin with: this saved me from screwing everything up with random settings, many thanks! I really would like a video like that also for F1 2020 and 2021 (mainly), Project Cars 2, and maybe Dirt 2 and WRC 8.. but… thanks anyway! ☺️

[@pangarerc]

Thank you Ermin, very nice my CSL DD was awesome after your setttings

[@Collsaur]

I really appreciate how Ermin update its video's name From CSL DD and added DD GT Pro now

[@QuoTeZHD]

Wow my dude, really helped with my iracing settings now it feels incredible thanks a lot

[@julianr9873]

Hi Ermin, I have just started car sim racing and recently purchased PS5 ACC. The settings menu is very complex so your suggested "get started" settings are really helpful. I also have GT Sport and F1 2021 and would really appreciate you doing further videos on settings to get me started in these games as well.

[@julienarnault935]

Merci bcp pour les réglages je ressens vraiment la différence sur assetto corsa 👍🙏

[@ClusterFugue]

Hi Ermin (assuming you ever see this on a year old video), I just wanted to say thanks for this video, it helped me a ton. I've had my CSL DD a while now and am finally feeling a little less intimidated with all the settings available on the wheelbase side and on iracing and setting things per your recommendations made things feel tons better. Now if someone would just make a video (that you can hear the audio on) to explain the rotary encoder/botton settings for my Fanatec McLaren gt3 v2 wheel I'd really be going places. ;)

[@trevz1048]

Thanks for this tried the acc settings just turned the fei to 80 and it feels good 👍my car was bouncing about too much before.

[@flipnospan7808]

Great vid, as always! And very useful, as I just received my CSL DD. Thank you! :)

[@KlixMicha51]

Wold love to see a F1 2021 guide as you said

[@univers2103]

I'm happy that you put BeamNG as a "major sim" :D all do is not competitive, I really love it and don't regret a second spending the money on the full price:)

[@ConanTheBavarian]

I have been watching a couple of FFB videos now for the CSL DD and one thing I don't get is, why does everyone turn down the gain so much in ACC? The CSL DD is barely clipping at 100% and Aris always tells people to turn it down a tad when it clips a lot. I turned it to 95% gain and it only seems to clip when hitting a kerb at highspeeds, which imo is acceptable.

[@toddmcdonough]

Thanks Ermin! My CSL DD base is due to arrive in a couple of days. Just in time for the next politically scheduled fear and panic simulation.

[@nortski78]

Bookmarking this.

[@noahcwb]

i'll be back at this video when mine arrives in july

[@fgq88]

Me ha servido mucho, no encontraba la manera de disfrutar mi csl DD Thanks

[@oktc68]

Thanks I'll check out your settings.

[@bluesrike]

You just got a new subscriber simply for using music from Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 3 at the start.

[@boriskosloff754]

Nice work Ermin! I really appreciate your effort. How about this though: Most KZbinrs set in game gain to 75 or whatever and FFB on the wheel to 100. I'd like to argue that the fact that the wheel can adjust this on the fly makes only sense if you set the in game game to 100 and the wheel to whatever you like. Also, why would Fanatec even bother implementing FFB strength when it is set to 100 all the time anyway? I have tried this in ACC and other sims and cannot feel a difference...makes fine tuning a lot easier too. Just my 2 cents.

[@Ermz]

If you look through the Signal Primer section where I explain clipping, you'll understand why that's not advisable.

[@boriskosloff754]

@@Ermz So the bitter truth is that the game gain at 100 produces so much clipping that reducing gain on the wheel is not taking care of that, right? This is a stupid architecture imho. Only a standardized output (like 0dB from a pre amp) would solve this properly.

[@StevenPlays.]

Legendary. Thanks!

[@OutriderFIN]

Will bookmark this for possible later use. Is the CSL DD a significant upgrade over CSL Elite in your opinion?

[@zethyuen8859]

He will say definitely.

[@AbizW97]

6nm vs 8nm, it's an upgrade but don't expect huge impact on what you feel.

[@misterdog7]

@@AbizW97 Will be way smoother and detailed though normally.

[@AbizW97]

@@misterdog7 have you compared them directly or you are just guessing?

[@Ermz]

I've never used the CSL Elite, so I can't say definitively. Given that I prefer it to my DD1s though, I would say it's highly likely.

[@BenFreedmanRacing]

I got something useful out of that guide and I’ll be using this when I get my DD soon

[@cmorin522]

Love all your vids big fan and sub. What would your GT7 FFB settings on a DD Pro? Thanks for your help and patience sir.

[@leandrovocals]

I would like to know the same, please…

[@kevinlawson4635]

Yes, @ermz don't add GT to the title and not cover Gran Turismo. If I search for GT DD I am looking for setting for GT. What happens is I see your video and say, "oh look, this dude, I've seen him before he's good. Lets see his setting for GT". But you don't get into it. Now when I see your videos and the title looks like it would be pertinent I know its probably not, now. Just take it out of the title man! stop wasting my time.

[@iGearhead]

Nice editing. I’m so exited to get my wheel

[@falkend1fox728]

Hey man love your videos is there anyway if you get the time can you make a FFB video with the GT DD Pro 8nm and Gran Turismo Sport? Can’t find anything on google thanks.

[@lorry7863]

You are doing god's work

[@margiasboats]

amazing set for iracing thanks

[@abuelb]

For csl dd users, here's a more realistic feel ffb settings for ACC SEN:540 FFB: 100 FFS: LINEAR NDP: 100 NFR: 100 NIN: 100 NIT: 1 FEI: 50 FOR: 100 SPR: 120 DPR: 120 BRF: 20 BLI: 10 In Game GAIN: 100 MIN FORCE: 0 DAMPER: 80 DYNAMIC DAMPING: 180 ROAD EFFECTS: 50 FREQ: 400hz STEER LOCK: 540 FFB MULTIPLIER: 1.5

[@luxie8097]

I'm glad i came across this random comment, these settings are great.

[@abuelb]

@@luxie8097 Here's a much tighter feel with faster turn ins around corners. Enjoy! CSL DD Peak Settings ACC Sen: 290 FFB: 100 FFS: Peak NDP: 40 NFR: 100 NIN: 100 INT: 1 FEI: 40 FOR: 120 SPR: 120 DPR: 120 BRF: 10 BLI: 10 INGAME GAIN: 100 MIN FORCE: 0 DAMPER: 100 DYN DAMPING: 180 ROAD EFFECT: 0 STEER LOCK: 290 FFB MULTIPLIER: 1.5

[@theonlyegg]

Great video. You're the best, dude.

[@mollys360kitchen7]

May God bless you more 🙏

[@wwjnz9263]

I see where I went wrong. Followed along and was able to tune my wheelbase to be the same.

[@simonjones6218]

Thank you so so so much

[@noidentitylsl]

Instant subscription, Thanks

[@ag7891]

great video, thx! But with all the game updates since this came out, or these settings still accurate? And how about settings for f1 2021 and Dirt Really 2.0 ?

[@stefanoviaggio8096]

On fanatec base use NDP 20-25 NFR 10-12 NIN 8-10 Work Great on every game

[@Noeln83]

Thank you very much. Very helpful video. One question. Did the LEDs in ACC work for you without FanaLab? Got my CSL DD today.

[@Ermz]

No, the developers have seemingly yet to add support for it. Same with RaceRoom.

[@trevz1048]

Works with raceroom if the base is set to yellow 2.5 mode or something not tried acc yet will do in the morning

[@Noeln83]

@@trevz1048 Yes, in ACC you have to set it to yellow mode too. Then it works fine.

[@douglasblickle1557]

Thank you for this video. It’s to the point, explains clearly what to do and options. Keep up the great work!

[@nivekbs]

Hi. Nice vid. I am thinking about the DD CSL, so all those settings for my fav sims comes my handy. Since i am a Fanatec noob so far allow me the question - do i use them with the vanilla fanatec driver settings? Or has the driver settings also has to be set per game? TiA

[@Wilayaat]

You use FanaLab to set the actual wheelbase parameters. That's what he is effectively doing on the wheel; those same settings can be set via FanaLab if you prefer or your wheel doesn't have a screen.

[@kennyfolz1993]

I changed the 4 effects settings to zero percent like you said and now I have no feeling of the road or anything

[@stryker1992]

nice stuff, it will be very handy 👏

[@Boonatix]

Thank you Ermin! I tried the ACC settings and somehow they feel a bit rough... at least what I tried so far. I will keep changing track and car to see if it gets better ^-^

[@Ermz]

If they're a bit rough, just increase the interpolation on the wheelbase, and/or lower the FEI until it feels right to you.

[@Boonatix]

@@Ermz Thanks Ermin. Did you try to set the NDP to 0 and only test the in-game dynamic dampening range... ?

[@Ermz]

@@Boonatix ah, no I would not advise that. They're two very different things. Dynamic Damping is essentially the gyroscopic forces the tyres create on the steering rack at high speeds only, whereas the base damping is the overall friction level that's continuously present.

[@Boonatix]

@@Ermz after more testing I actually went away from using PEAK... LINEAR is so much smoother and has less rough hits in the FFB!

[@nanoverse]

@@Boonatix Don't mind that linear is about 6nm?

[@PietroPizzi]

Awesome Video! And yes, bring on all the other Games :)! I would like Forza 7 to, I know it's a Simcade but it's Fun and I like it ;).

[@gtxforza]

For the intro of this video, I recognise that soundtrack from Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 3.

[@R83TV]

Did you make the other video with DIRT and F1?

[@MILSIM530]

Best video on KZbin facts 👏💯👌🙌🤣

[@2leftgaming793]

This must have taken quite a while to put together, thank you for the hard work! Don't know when or if I'll be able to get my hands on one of these bases, but a guide like this is just what I'd look for. Any possible recommended settings for the CSL elite?

[@Ermz]

I've never used the CSL Elite, so unfortunately I can't help out there.

[@2leftgaming793]

@@Ermz Fair enough, I appreciate you taking the time to respond :)

[@bryanforonda9578]

Thanks for this video, very helpful! +1 for setting for Dirt Rally 2.0, would also love settings for WRC10

[@RenLacerda]

Great guide, thank you. Why cant we keep sensitivity at AUTO?

[@trackjunky3338]

Ermz, thanks for the video

[@antivanti]

Thanks for this. This will come in handy! =) Dirt Rally would be useful also and I would like to see settings for some simcade games as well like the upcoming Forza Horizon 5. Not sure if you feel you would be able to provide meaningful input on ETS2 and ATS but I'm looking for that info as well =) Going to be a fall full of driving games for me this year! =D

[@jasonricard5058]

Did you do an update for GT7? Where would I find your settings? Thank you!

[@Balrog7]

Great view thank you. Might be a stupid question (if it is sorry and hope you can explain to me a little bit more so that I can understand ;) ), but I only see in ACC frequencies of 100Hz/133Hz/200Hz/400Hz. Don't have the 333Hz you have and I've seen a lot of other people that have 333Hz. Why is this? Should I put 133Hz (default), 200Hz or 400Hz? I have a Fanatec CSL DD with the Mclaren GT3 v2 wheel.

[@avasolaris1]

Good stuff, thank you. I am just starting with the DD and am playing in F1 2020. I would like to see what your ideas are there as well

[@pauljackson4976]

I have upgraded from a Logitech G29 to the CSL DD with 8Nm boost kit & followed your settings, but iracing's Auto FFB strength function makes the FFB so strong (17.9) I could not turn the wheel on the tight right hander at the Red Bull Ring, I had to turn it down to 11.0 to save my wrists. Why would sim racers need more FFB? Also I found some sweeping corners felt like there was no FFB & I could not feel understeer, so I turned the Min Force up to 1% this felt better for me.

[@krakentortoise7531]

Will definitely come back to this video when I abuse your Affiliate Link :)

[@Igbon5]

I finally got one, with pedals and Clubsport Formula V2.5. I was ripped of in more ways than one. I stupidly assumed Pagnian imports would charge similar retail prices, they don't they add 20% or more, sometimes a bit less. They don't have stock they just pass your order to Fanatec and it is exactly the same as if you do it yourself. Also, the 8nm power supply as a bundle is effectively 100 dollars more than the actual price of 260 for the boost kit. Get the basic package for 600 and the boost kit for 260 for 860 total and you have both power supplies. 30 bucks more than the bundle without the 5nm. Pagnian price for the 8nm bundle is $1000, $140 more. But you get free shipping, worth about 22 bucks. And finally when it all finally got here last Monday, the Clubsport wheel had two broken knobs on the rotary switches.

[@94boosted]

Did you make any app.ini tweaks for iRacing or is that set to the defaults?

[@curleex3838]

Ive just ordered the csl dd and was wondering do i use irffb or Fanatec software or both? Thanks ✌💙✊🏻

[@chrisharber3647]

Great video Ermin, thank you! - Quick question, are you able to enter the advanced menu on the F1 Esports Rim and P1 wheel? As I will be running these when my CSL DD arrives

[@Ermz]

You should be able to enter it with any wheel rim. Otherwise you can reach the same menu on the PC via the Fanatec Control Panel.

[@rickthomas9894]

Hi! ACSL DD Settings follow up would be great.

[@ryanbuster4626]

Any of these settings change depending on wheel rim size? I have a 320mm wheel on the DD pro vs the stock 280mm it comes with. I would think this calls for more power. New to fanatec....

[@ricardomaya2001]

Thanks for the video, Just a quick question for raceroom, did you had to turn the compatibility mode on in the wheel ? For me that was the only way that raceroom detect my wheel.

[@Ermz]

Yes for now the compatibility mode is the best way.

[@ricardomaya2001]

@@Ermz thank you !!

[@georgegalea1937]

Warning! All these KZbin videos are great and interesting. The one thing they don’t do is inform you what their products are like to live with over a period of time. If you wish to have a happy and content life please take my advise and look at the FANATEC’s own Forum in regards to all the issues they have and their terrible customer service. I have one word to the question should you purchase FANATEC products? DONT. I would have had the same amount of problems with a real race car.. On a lighter note Im very grateful FANATEC do not build motor vehicles

[@LuisChavez-bl6ti]

all my homies love ermin

[@Cactus.Scoville]

Hi, Ermz, will you review the moza R5 ?

[@SCDWldCrd]

I'm playing f1 2021 so may need setup once I have csl dd

[@Ruypbf99]

Another Great Video. Do F1 2021 and dirt rally plz

[@arnovandezande1244]

Can we please just all agree that fanatec needs to make a porsche gt2 rs clubsport wheel like they made the mclaren wheel I know they have the gt3 r wheel but still the gt2 rs clubsport wheel is way cooler

[@RacingGB]

When adjusting settings through the wheel base do these save to each game or do you have to adjust everytime you change game?

[@Cifer_YT]

In which mode are you running your wheel? CSW compatibility (Yellow) ?

[@trentfowler2888]

Well done, this is interesting even though I don't have my DD yet. I have ordered it but really don't know when to expect it. I ordered a McLaren wheel a couple of days ago as well. Question for someone out there. Do I need to upgrade the quick release on the McLaren wheel in preparation for the 8nm DD base?

[@gyssos]

No, the standard one actually fits better on the CSL DD base, and is perfect for that base.

[@Camkawasaki]

Do you mind please making a settings tutorial for the fanatec gt dd pro and gran turismo sometime?

[@tonesnaps]

can you review the new ams2 update and update the forcefeedback settings youd use with the csl dd?