Honestly the idea that anyone in the fandom hated Erza and thought she was a mary sue is news to me cuz i've only ever heard praise for this amazing woman.
@anna_medeia Жыл бұрын
I heard that mostly from people who didn't like Fairy Tail and it's power of friendship in the first place.
@zoeanimations2186 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that people are calling her a mary sue.
@kesenaememere8520 Жыл бұрын
@@zoeanimations2186 she's a Mary sue for sure.
@deathxanamon7211 Жыл бұрын
@@kesenaememere8520how? A mary Sue is someone that is perfect in every way, Erza is known to be silly, get angry easily and not the brightest person.
@kesenaememere8520 Жыл бұрын
@@deathxanamon7211 that's just to compensate for her being able to do everything in combat, even when it makes no sense. She can swing a sword because she can, being decent at hand to hand combat because she can, even the author Mashima, couldn't think of a reason for why she is so good at what she does, to the fact that she can lose all her senses in a fight and still beat her opponent for the reason being she's erza. She doesn't have the proper fight training to be pulling those feats off. I'm no sexist don't get me wrong if they said this about someone like Goku who even has far better combat training, I would still cringe.
@brianford4914 Жыл бұрын
One thing I love about Erza is that she never gets left behind. A lot of the strong female characters in shonen usually get surpassed quickly by the main guys of the show but Erza always stays one of the strongest members of Fairy Tail and I love that Natsu and Gray don't just surpass her and leave her behind.
@orianefaton1885 Жыл бұрын
And the rare time the boys get a powerup to be stronger than her, it is either temporary... or then there is a timeskip and now we are back to Erza being stronger, yet again, because she likely trained in this timeskip.
@naboume466 Жыл бұрын
that's just isn't true, most shounen has strong female characters that stay strong throughout the series, funny thing is you can go to any shounen community and you will find people praising their series being the only shounen manga where there are strong female characters, when most shounen are like that.
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
Natsu surpasses gray and erza it isn’t directly stated but its shown by natsu beating characters that would beat erza or gray
@MiguelGonzalez-du8de Жыл бұрын
And the fact that characters like Natsu, who likes to fight strong characters and forms quick rivalries with them, considers Erza an equally important rival and he's constantly talking about how he wants to fight her
@TeaTimeTable Жыл бұрын
@@naboume466 Name 10 right now because you can't there is no shonen out there that has a consistent female character among the popular ones that has a "female character" be strong all throughout the series.
@thunderflare59 Жыл бұрын
Erza isn't just lawful good. She's lawful good with intelligence and wisdom as dump stats. I love her.
@teapotspooks8102 Жыл бұрын
Naw, her WIS is decent, her her INT is her downfall. I would say charisma too but intimidation is a charisma skill sooooo…..
@thunderflare59 Жыл бұрын
@@teapotspooks8102 The DM let's her use her STR modifier for intimidation.
@djcuevas1057 Жыл бұрын
@@thunderflare59mine definitely does.
@gebdemedici Жыл бұрын
She's like a Fighter/Sorcerer multiclass
@PsyrenXY Жыл бұрын
Charisma is her dump stat (reminder that beauty is not charisma.) She gets bashful easily when complimented, brute-forces her way through every social encounter ("what's the situation??" *headbutts* "what's the situation??" *headbutts*), can't act her way out of a paper bag or carry a tune in a bucket etc. I love her
@manulopez4697 Жыл бұрын
Her magic was explained, basically is like a different dimensions were she can store different armor and weapons. It means that she collected all the armor and weapon's
@jonasscheftner8545 Жыл бұрын
but it would have been nice if we had seen her getting the armor. at least the napagami armor could have been a nice mini arc, because that thing probably didn't just stood at some shop.
@ChocomelJuice Жыл бұрын
Isn't there an OVA where we can see Erza owning like 5 rooms just to store all her armor and weapons? I think she just teleports them to her to equip
@Definitelynoone Жыл бұрын
@@ChocomelJuice No... those rooms are for her armors that cant fit anymore on her pocket space if I remember correctly.
@numbernumber25 Жыл бұрын
@@jonasscheftner8545 Yeah that is actually very fair. There are large gaps in time where between Erza showing up at the guild and the beginning of the series. Assuming she did not acquire any new weapons or armor throughout the series from the time period of the first episode to the final episode. Then her material space for weapons and armor has space for roughly 25 sets of weapons with armor. She somehow had to acquire all that stuff, yet as far as I recall they never actually show any scenes of it, I think as you said it could be a good arc to have perhaps maybe have a side story where it presents her helping another character with weapons. Then she tells the stories of Erza getting her first set of weapons and armor. Probably could retell how she joined the guild and got some help to go out on a mission, but after a few missions she had broken her sword and needed to get it replaced. So she asked around a few other weapon wielders, then found a blacksmith to forge some new stuff. After that she either does not have the money to pay for it all, or she has to help collect materials or something. Something involving her working hard to help make the weapons and armor, whether that means infusing materials with magic to make them easier to control or just to increase their strength. It should feel like her getting her first set had something special to it so that we could both reflect on how far she has gotten as well as allow us to see that she stands like a teacher to another guild member that is working to be a weapon expert. It should in a sense remind us of the overall growth she has gone through to the point where she is able to pass on something to someone else. Also it would be kind of funny to have a sort of money savy lesson from Erza to one of her students in terms of how she would want to save money sometimes on just buying cheap weapons at a shop, despite her probably being the top three biggest Fairytail wizards in terms of racking up debt for the guild due to destroying various cities during fights.
@narozan2769 Жыл бұрын
@@jonasscheftner8545 it wasn't an armor but in the first movie she buys a wedding dress and added it to her armors and later on she fought with it
@chilliicecream5456 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, one of the best things about Erza is how she is able to embrace her femininity, whilst still being incredibly badass and capable. In many other forms of media you’ll often find characters who will either skew from one side to the other, and they can be incredibly annoying to watch/read
@chillmode4life Жыл бұрын
Yes she is balanced
@phantomslay5612 Жыл бұрын
Give Hiro Mashima some credit. The guy may have some problems with his storytelling, but he managed to do what so many other shonen manga writers couldn’t. Make a genuinely badass female lead character who can stand on equal ground with the rest of the main characters.
@MultiYogibear Жыл бұрын
All of his ladies are awesome and in their own ways
@tunderdiamant8651 Жыл бұрын
I mean it's not hard to do when you just make her invincible for no reason lmao of course she's not gonna be left behing when you know she CANT lose anyway because mashima won't allow her to
@phantomslay5612 Жыл бұрын
@@tunderdiamant8651 She lost a few times before. Erza was not invincible.
@tunderdiamant8651 Жыл бұрын
@@phantomslay5612 when did she lose a fight and not win it After ?
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 Жыл бұрын
@@tunderdiamant8651 against Jose
@dylans.1741 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows Colleen as Luffy and Gohan, but more people gotta talk about her performance as Erza. Seriously, that woman always put 1000 percent into every line.
@CrimsonCharan Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Colleen, Erza, and Colleen as Erza, my favorite role of hers has to be Hana from Wolf Children. A perfect mash of performance and writing elevating each other in tandem.
@dragon3010lol Жыл бұрын
mother fucker just broke my brain
@stormstrider1990 Жыл бұрын
I love Colleen as Erza, She balances out both the feminine beauty and the sheer badassness of our favorite warrior waifu. I could see her command an army with that voice, and the soldiers would follow her. Not out of fear or obligation, but because she would inspire them to fight for their loved ones.
@dylans.1741 Жыл бұрын
@@stormstrider1990 Colleen's deep voice can easily command respect and fear, even if she's just reading her grocery list
@janesdead68025 ай бұрын
Oh THATS why she sounds familiar- she also did Momo Yaoyorozu in MHA. Actually whadamIsaying, I watched way more FT than mha
@petercampbell9305 Жыл бұрын
After finding out Irene’s story, her abandoning Erza was the best decision she’d ever make, she wasn’t sane to be a parent to Erza, her trauma was too much for her, can’t blame her for going insane
@robertlinke2666 Жыл бұрын
ill always remember erza killing all 100 monsters in the grand magic games. just all 100, on her own, that was amazing
@rengeoca Жыл бұрын
I still think that Mirajane was the one who really deserves better
@jonasscheftner8545 Жыл бұрын
absolutly
@itsallfictional5119 Жыл бұрын
For me it’s gotta be Juvia, girls whole personality is rlly just about Gray 😢
@rossjones8656 Жыл бұрын
Dude, all the females deserve so much more. Lucy should get a big win, Erza should of had victory, Mirajane deserve more screentimes, Juvia deserve more development.
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
@@rossjones8656read 100yr quest lucy gets big wins and ill agree on juvia but the rest no
@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483 Жыл бұрын
Don't wanna be mean, but you guys are to blame for thinking they would get the same attention as the male MC.....they are known SHONEN for a reason. The same way male characters are pretty useless or evil in SHOJO animes. Sometimes we might come across special cases in shonen, but never take it for granted.
@cupcakejack7375 Жыл бұрын
No but fr what Thomas said in the beginning about Fairy Tail falling to the ground without the girls is SO true. I can imagine an arc where all the girls leave to a mission and come back to find the guild is fucking destroyed
@christiandelcarmen1278 Жыл бұрын
There are approximately 5 brain cells in Fairy Tail. 3 of which, belong to the girls (Levy/Lucy, Mira and Erza). Another is with Makarov and the last is with Laxus but is being used to brood.
@cupcakejack7375 Жыл бұрын
that last line fukin killed me and burried my corpse in the woods lmao@@christiandelcarmen1278
@calliemoon33375 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, it has NOTHING to do with girls vs boys. That's just how the guys are 🤣
@enzojose4001 Жыл бұрын
Erza problem is the same that all characters from Fairy tail have: doens't matter how strong they are and how much they fight, it's always Natsu that saves the day in the end.
@thomasraines1396 Жыл бұрын
Me and my friends finished the Phantom Lord arc and the whole thing with Lauxus and yeah despite apparently being one of the strongest guilds all the members aside from Natsu, Gray, Erza (and Gajeel) suck ass.
@enzojose4001 Жыл бұрын
@@the5thdoctor During the Tower of Heaven arc, Jellal was the main villain and had a deep connection with Erza, but Natsu was the one that defeated him. That was supposed to be Erza moment of glory. During rhe oracion six arc, Wendy was the focus of the arc, but Natsu was the one that defeated the villain. The main issue with fairy tail is that natsu ruins ithed characterz moments kf glory, since no one other than him is supposed to be the hero of the arc.
@anna_medeia Жыл бұрын
I mean that's a Shonen dynamic in general, iE One Piece arcs focused on other strawhats, but Luffy always defeats main villain. Black Clover is kinda better in that regard but Asta or Yuno get the finishing blow.
@GlupiTsundere Жыл бұрын
@@anna_medeia @annabenzerrouk5816 I don't think it's necessarily the fact that the protagonist beats the main villain of the arc, but the fact that Natsu tends to take away from others' character development by making things about himself. In One Piece, for example, Luffy is the one that beats the main bad guys, but he never takes away the importance of other characters' stories. In Arlong Park, he beats Arlong, but Nami and Arlong's impact on her is the main focus and Luffy's main motive to help. In Ennies Lobby, he wins against Lucci, but it doesn't overshadow Robin's past or "I want to live" moment. One more thing about One Piece is that it's never just Luffy standing up for his friends. It's not Luffy going to beat up Arlong, but Straw Hats marching together into a park to give Nami her freedom. It's not Luffy challenging the world to save Robin, it's Straw Hats standing before her and CP9, lighting that flag saying that all of them will die for her. In Fairy Tail, it's not Natsu beating the main villain, it's him becoming the center of the story. Yes, he wanted to help Erza in the Tower of Haven, but instead of showing how important Erza is to everyone, Mashima highlights Natsu's personal values. It's more about Natsu's personal view of friendship than Erza's past trauma and inability to open up. What I am trying to say is that while it's logical for Natsu to beat Jellal, he shouldn't be the star of that fight and that other members should have been there as well.
@rossjones8656 Жыл бұрын
@@enzojose4001the only one you can excuse is the Oracion arc because Wendy was not about to go murder mode but even then. There shouldn't of been a secret member. It feels more cathartic that all those bastards get beaten and now they just need to destroy the giant weapon.
@merkwimasura1159 Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with the sexualization of erzas armors is that it goes extremely against her whole theme. When her armors dont cover most of her body, the analogy of Erza wearing literal and methaphorical armor just doesnt work anymore. When "clearest heart" isnt the form with the least metal armour or even least coverage of her *vulnerable* body, id argue her entire theming falls apart. So having erza go through the whole sexualisation bs actively hurts her characterisation and ark imo
@xenrusxenomorph2268 Жыл бұрын
I dont blame you for that idea. Just a let down of kinda poor writing.
@unisayart Жыл бұрын
At the time Fairytail was one of few shonen fantasy anime that had an empressive female cast. As a wee little middle schooler im actually glad I had someone like Erza to admire!! Also Lucy, also Cana, also Levy, also Mira!
@alexanderdelongchamps7594 Жыл бұрын
I'm a straight man and I am right there with you on feeling uncomfortable with the weird sexual torture of Erza and finding out that it was worse in the manga is not helping
@CrimsonCharan Жыл бұрын
I get ya. I was 15/16 when I first came across that scene in the manga, and I was both confused and uncomfortable. They toned it down significantly in the anime, but I still felt off put.
@arbitrary_raspberry Жыл бұрын
One of the two reasons i stopped watching fairy tail one because it became repetitive and two because it had gotten way too much weird sexual moments and 'fan service' that i thought where unnecessary for the story etc and as a girl i didn't want to see all those boobs and butts and more
@beck2752 Жыл бұрын
Literally was the reason I stopped reading & all my love for the series died.
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
@@arbitrary_raspberryhow tf did fairy tail feel repetitive and while the fanservice is annoying its not as annoying as everyone makes it out to be
@bobthetrollhunter Жыл бұрын
yes it is @@ReidnReactn
@PreedReve Жыл бұрын
I know it's a tiny little thing but to answer your question as to where Ezra's gear comes from, they're all preexisting items she collects. Ezra's Reequip: The Knight is spatial magic that swaps allows her switch out her gear out she has in a pocket dimension. She has so much gear that she has to leave some of it back at her dorm in Fairy Hills. I think they also mention somewhere that she's very skilled for a Reequip user because she can swap gear midbattle quickly. :D
@maybe8985 Жыл бұрын
If only her final fight with her mother wasn’t trash because she was too overpowered like all your bones were broken- that’s a Mashima problem with all his fights honestly But she’s sooo cute and her personality is the best she’s a sweetheart ❤️
@zeroxenoverse9251 Жыл бұрын
A Mashima thing? You mean it that applies to all of his mainstream manga like Edens Zero?
@rossjones8656 Жыл бұрын
Dude, that's most Anima.
@kitanaedenian2575 Жыл бұрын
What u talking about? Irene washed her . Irene killed herself
@Rayne-ih5yf5 ай бұрын
@@kitanaedenian2575 But like really Irene turns into a dragon and oneshots erza she then summons a meteor? For her to watch as erza propels herself and destroy the meteor then again Erza prepares to attack her and Irene just stands there again as wendy enchants erzas swords and knock out irene that's so much plot armor
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
I never thought she was a sue when I watched it. She’s just one of the queens.
@PrincessNana08 Жыл бұрын
Erza as a female character is masterpiece that shounen mangakas find hard to create. She embodies femininity with strength and fortutide like a queen and a knight in one body, while also retaining childlike qualities like her awkwardness and innocence. She’s also one of the kindest characters ever. Seriously, imagine your biological mother, father and the boy you love(Jellal) all trying to kill you once in their lifetime and still retain a heart to forgive and look past all their darkness. She’s just a lovable character.
@miamaru414 Жыл бұрын
The problem with Erza’s writing is that she had her character arc way too early on. But that’s by design because the Fairy Tail manga was only supposed to be 10 volumes
@thomasraines1396 Жыл бұрын
That’s not that long is it?
@anna_medeia Жыл бұрын
That's really short for a Shonen Manga (especially fighting), even One Piece original story draft after Romance Dawn was supposed to be longer (which eventually turned into a seemingly endless Manga).
@miamaru414 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 Nope. Mashima didn’t want to do another long series after Rave Master but enjoyed drawing FT so much that he kept it going
@thomasraines1396 Жыл бұрын
@@miamaru414 oh alright. Thank you.
@xrosrider6062 Жыл бұрын
I feel the knight is such a fitting name for Ezra’s ability not because it involves swords and armor but also it represents her character. Erza is a knight in the sense of she seeks power for the sake of protecting those she cares about.
@Shirker12 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought of Erza as overpowered, much like Natsu, Laxus, and others. I've never thought it was a bad thing though. It's just one of the many things I like about her and Fairy Tail as a whole. Being overpowered ≠ Mary Sue at all to me. It's just cool. The meteor feat is awesome, but it pales in comparison to her stopping a fully powered Natsu and Grey with her bare hands. That scene will live rent free in my head forever. That being said, as a straight male, yeah. The fan service and overly sexual scenes are something the show/manga could definitely do without. I know my demographic is "supposed" to like it, but it seriously shatters my suspension of disbelief most of the time and definitely detracts from the show as a whole.
@anna_medeia Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's just people not knowing what a Mary Sue is (like Thomas elaborated), like yeah she's kinda overpowered but she can still struggle in fights, her power isn't the whole point of her character (she actually has a really nice personality) nor is she liked by everyone for no compelling reason.
@zeroxenoverse9251 Жыл бұрын
Well to me that feat, I don't like.
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
That erza shouldnt have been able to block gray and natsu her arms shoulda been blown off While it wasnt a full power end her arms shoulda been frostbitten and burn to a crisp
@MagmaSpacer Жыл бұрын
I never understood how fan service bothers people but not her being able to go up against the strongest forces of the show and defy all logic. Fan service as long as it isn’t done in tense or serious moments is perfectly fine. The show has a lighthearted tone for the most part so I don’t see the issue. Now with scenes like the Kyouka torture that I can see being annoying. Although I personally liked when Erza was being put down a peg or two. But the framing could have been better.
@shysmart80218 ай бұрын
Same, the scene where she stops the both of them is burned into my mind. It was perfect narratively, and the fight with Irene brought so much to her character arc.
@cui8789 Жыл бұрын
Regarding Erza's powers, I sometimes wonder if it would be more interesting if she created her armor and weapons using magic rather than just summoning them from another dimension.
@tontonfox Жыл бұрын
Think about it this way, she had to FIND those one-of-a-kind armor. Which takes time and research (though I bet she can just get the information out of people just by staring at them to scare the ever-living shit out of them). It was stated in the Pandemonium event, her critical thinking skills were quick and solid choices. I also believe she takes care of her armor and fixes them herself; this info was either brushed over in an episode or it was during one of the OVA episodes.
@darknessknows1235 Жыл бұрын
It's actually much rarer in anime media for a character to be a collector of weapons, let alone armor, so incidentally it's the better choice in making her stand out in comparison to just creating what she needs.
@numbernumber25 Жыл бұрын
As suggested from another commenter, a mini story on Erza collecting armor or just making it herself or with a blacksmith would be nice. At the very least would allow some story telling in terms of presenting the common struggles her powers entail with probably constantly having broken weapons to replace. Any sense of a difficulty or obstacle in a power or ability especially of a powerful character is always nice to show that they have some downsides they need to constantly handle.
@femthingevelyn Жыл бұрын
I don't really think so honestly, firstly because that would essentially make her power a kind of Maker Magic, putting her right with Grey, Juvia, Laki, Rufus, and a handful of other mages, while there are only a handful of users of Requip magic in general, and she's the only one who can use that particular brand of it, except when it gets copied, and even then, she is said to be remarkably proficient in it.
@mikeybeeks487 Жыл бұрын
They explained why she is so powerful and I assumed it’s was obvious aside from the hard work she puts in to be the best and the “power of friendship” she was in her moms belly for like 1000 years while her mom was a dragon soaking up all that power before her mom got turned back into a human by Zaref and abandoned her
@DGenHero Жыл бұрын
Erza's sue moments are usually attributed to moments where shes physically incapable of winning yet does so anyway. The points I reLly find egregious are when she beats the demon woman with zero ability to perceive the world arround her and when she destroys a meteor with every other bone in her body broken besides her arm.
@_StarXDust_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah, those moments disappointed me😅
@queenrose2009 Жыл бұрын
Erza to me is the best female character in all of shounen anime cause she doesn't fall into the category of damsel in distress, she doesn't need to be saved cause she's the one doing the saving. Her armors are legit and she can put up a fight without breaking a sweat. This shows us that she is without a doubt one of Fairy Tail's strongest wizards. And above all she has that strict yet protective big sister persona who will fight for you whenever your in harm's way and I love her for that. And also she's gorgeous ❤!
@Irelevant472 Жыл бұрын
Do you know jojo's part 6 ?
@queenrose2009 Жыл бұрын
@Gin-San101What I meant is that she didn't need to fully rely on others to help her out, there was times where she needed help but there was also times where she was able to hold off on her own. Compare that to characters like Sakura who always needed to be saved and never once got to do something on her own without any help (the fight with lady Chiyo doesn't count cause they were fighting side by side there's a difference) basically Erza wasn't defenseless like some characters in anime where they always needed help. A character can have assistances helping them out but not able to do anything unless you have help is a whole other story.
@GodOfGraverei Жыл бұрын
@@queenrose2009 What about when she got saved by Makarov? Or the time she got saved by Natsu? Or the time she got saved by Laxus? Or the time she got saved by Wendy? Erza is sort of reliant on her guild members. Much like most of Fairy Tail
@blazedj Жыл бұрын
Aside from actual broken, overpowered characters, the way Erza is written is probably my favorite. Someone who is as strong as they are cool, a great concept for battle, a great head on their shoulders, a kind, caring individual, and someone who, despite a laundry list of skills, feats, and achievements, rarely lets theirs confidence get the better of them. She actually underestimates herself majority of the time. Like when she takes on the 100 monster challenge. She isn’t sure she can win, she just knows that she has to, and that is so badass about her and the rest of Fairy Tail.
@bones101455 ай бұрын
How would anyone think she's a Mary Sue? She gets kicked around all the time. She eventually wins but has to work for it.
@christopherballero866 Жыл бұрын
Erza is definitely my favorite Fairytale character also I appreciate that she really wasn't given much plot armor except maybe for her absurd magic abilities that lets her do a lot
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Жыл бұрын
Really was a huge fan of Erza the moment I met her. Early Erza was great because Mashima could control himself. You could tell as the series went on, Hiro got a bit…pent up. To the point just about every female character was getting Lucy’d. And if you understand what I meant when I used Lucy as a verb, congratulations! You, too, are in too deep! Anyway, I’m just glad that Tartarus Interrogation-like Scenes were few and far between. No, I am not biased.
@Tn-yl3cm Жыл бұрын
"A woman with that facial structure" dude all girls in fairy tail have the same face just with different eye and hair color
@LuckoFthe-Draw10 ай бұрын
I think people forget the mere fact that ever since she is introduced, and very early on in the series, she is described as being "strong as the ten wizard saints," a sentient shared by MULTIPLE parties, in multiple arcs. One does not get to be as strong as the top ten ranked wizards with being a pushover. Of course she eventually overpowers her opponents once she realizes what she is facing and has an answer to everything. Because she is as strong as the strongest wizards on the continent. It would be hard to find someone stronger than her, and it is. Not "because she's Erza" but because she is this powerful, and has been since the beginning, and has been training since the beginning WITH everyone. Of course power scaling is off in the scheme of that because we see how much everyone else has grown - but she has always been strong - so it looks like she fell behind when she realistically, never had. Her magic is literally called the "knight." What are knights good at? Defensive maneuvers. Of course she has an answer to nearly every scenario she finds herself in. If you pay attention to literally ANY of Erza's fights - her accuracy is horrendous and she misses the mark with a lot of her weaponry and magical prowess. She gets through with her sheer determination, as well as her immense durability. That, in essence, IS her magic - being durable - being the knight that protects those she holds dear to her heart; she even said she would give up all of her strength, to still be able to do that, and that she was never strong; that it was all a lie and that she wore armor and the attitude she had, so no one could see she was broken.
@kokoro7996 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention how Erza defeated 100 monsters all by herself during the magic games arc!
@raw086 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how you explain what a Mary sue is “bending” reality then Bloom pops up in a video about fairy tail 😂
@lemoineau2317 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@tobennaokoli44507 ай бұрын
Erza’s powers are honestly reasonable considered the insane power levels in Fairy Tail. Pretty much every villain is a god who destroy the world with ease.
@nemasisdemarini8339 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wouldn't doubt that the Nakagami Armor was just existing in a shop or collection somewhere. Since for over a decade, literally no one could actually use it. And Erza most likely didn't actually buy it, but rather just rented it for the games, since it would essentially turn someone into a human Achnologia. Meaning it would most likely cost both arms and legs, if it would even actually be on sale.
@chifffy Жыл бұрын
I think it's also not acknowledged as much but even though her innate magic is equip, she uses magical armor sets and has MASTERED the magic within each, which is honestly such a big thing considering this whole anime has people basically never branch out into different magical styles Yeah a lot just give attributes, but there is extra abilities in a fair few
@am_y.a.g1611 Жыл бұрын
I was nearly in tears so many times throughout this video, it’s been around a year or two that I have watched Fairy Tale and I feel so much emotions watching this. I love Erza so much, she was and will forever be my favourite character ever ❤
@fattimmy2829 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the ladies in Fairy Tail and I agree that they deserve better from the writing or the audience! New subscriber!
@urae454710 ай бұрын
I really appreciate these videos because not too many people talk about fairy tail like this. It was the first anime I ever really got into, & while I’m way more than aware of its shortcomings and it’s been a while since I’ve given it much thought, it still holds a special place for me. Erza especially! It’s been about 10 years or so since I first watched the show in middle school and “you don’t die for your friends, you live for them” has stuck with me ever since. It was kind of revolutionary for me then & I think there’s something to that.
@bismuth7398 Жыл бұрын
Let's be real. MOST of Fairy Tail's cast is amazing and deserved better than what they got. Erza isn't even the most egregious example IMO. If you ask me, that dishonor goes to Mirajane.
@arkauthor Жыл бұрын
Erza is amazing, first anime crush.
@ginafesta9340 Жыл бұрын
Mary sue? Erza not a mary sue, she a strong woman who often have emotion issue from her past, her love for the guild is truly incredible and i think she have the funny scene whenever she get some screentime plus gotta love her for her love of cake, she one of my favorite characters
@laurene2735 Жыл бұрын
Okay but the fact that Grey is the one that can make Erza realize that what is good is to help people and not respect the law, i think it can be realated to how Erza and Grey are the first main character to arrived to te guild, they have the longent freidnship in all of the main characters
@dakotalange2858 Жыл бұрын
I always found it weird that Lucy had not heard of Erza since she’s such a fan of fairy tail. She does go out and find armor and have new ones commissioned from rare creatures etc it’s in an ova she’s kinda like an almost infinite pocket that she can yank them out of because in the ova it shows her room with some that are too garish or not useful
@awesomepbear233 Жыл бұрын
Another badass Erza moment is when she faces the 100 monsters in the Grand Magic Games, proving that, yes, Fairy Tail is the strongest guild and it is back. Everyone is crying and I am crying.
@lunarshadow5584 Жыл бұрын
Had a recent argument with someone about Erza's character and he made really good points. Erza is a mary sue, not because of her character but because of the way her fight scenes were written. She had moments of receiving overdramatized damage to make the scenes more hopeless before she turns the tables just because "she's that badass". She is a badass. An S class Hero not in title alone but also in skill, which is why all her "close call" fights can feel cheap. It's a wonder why she can fail against opponents Natsu can defeat yet defeats him every time he challenges her for her rank. She's meant to be stronger, not as strong as Laxus but still the highest Rank of Wizard that can be given, making it questionable when a swordswoman is able to strike through all her strongest armors just because she lost her cool.
@andrewowens4421 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you forget that Natsu was suppose to be the main character because of how often Erza would confidently and effectively steal the show. But she was competent and always knew just how to deal with the situation. And unlike Natsu's tendency to pull powerups out of nowhere, when Erza did it there was an explanation behind it. (not the best explanation, but it was still there).
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
She used power of friendship to beat akuma so she can pull things out of her ass
@berzerk9380 Жыл бұрын
Natsu pulling out power ups out of nowhere? I’d like you to name them for me because I don’t recall him ever getting power ups out of nowhere except maybe dragon force in toh
@andrewowens4421 Жыл бұрын
@@berzerk9380 Literally when he fought Zancrow. He was getting his ass kicked the entire fight to the point that Zancrow started going easy on him. The only reason he won was is because he "dropped his magical power to zero in order to absorb a power that conflicted with his own magic" (paraphrasing what the guild master said. Apparently _nobody_ had done such a feat, especially in the middle of a battle without having practiced it before hand and Natsu just figured out how to drop his magic to zero while he was being ragdolled. (what made it worse is that Zancrow never showed up again in the series even though he could have easily been a great and reoccurring rival to Natsu. Which only helped to further cement the fact that Zancrow's only point for existing was to make Natsu look good by jobbing to him despite being more powerful.) The filler arc with the evil spirits was also a bit on the nose with how Natsu seemed to rise up at the last moment in each of his fights despite the fact that everyone kept saying how dangerous the spirits were at the time. But that's a filler fight so I'll let it pass. The fight with the dragonslayers of light and darkness was also something of an asspull but not directly. Ultimately Natsu was just stronger than the two put together... but the fact that they hyped the two up so much, so much that it was almost nauseating, to then have Natsu absolutely own them made the outcome of the fight less a grand moment of achievement for Natsu, but a sad disappointment of the power and relevance of his opponents.
@berzerk9380 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewowens4421 I’ll let you have the zancrow one. That could be seen as one. Now when it comes to the filler arc. I honestly couldn’t care less about it. I didn’t watch the anime, I read the manga. Natsu beating both of them was a combination of him being more skilled and more powerful then them. That wasn’t even remotely an asspull. And natsu dominating them after they gassed themselves up so much was the point of the conflict between sabertooth and fairy tail.
@berzerk9380 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewowens4421 and I don’t see the point of zancrow’s existence as him being there to make natsu look powerful. Because that definitely wasn’t the case at all. He lost because Nastu was being smart. I see it as him being there introduce the concept of god slayer magic. Which is without a doubt an integral part of the final arc.
@BroJo676 Жыл бұрын
Erza is a badasss Nadeshiko : the strength in Erza Scarlet is the fact that she wholeheartedly embraces her womanhood and femininity. Japan has a traditional virtue and vision of womanhood which is called Nadeshiko. The Nadeshiko is graceful, caring, womanly, loving, brave, honest, helpful, resourceful. And this is everything Erza embodies, even though she kind of embodies slightly more than just that. Her strength doesn't come from her running away from her womanhood but stems from her desire for protection over he loved ones. That's the reason why Japanese media has such beautiful, interesting, and great female characters because they feel real and human, not political statements.
@juansebastianvargascolorad384 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Lucy is a good example of a female protagonist who has been developing from chapter 1 to the sequel to the manga (still not finished). I agree with what you mentioned that lucy is a prime female character
@unisayart Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the long video, as someone who attempted being a video creator, I really love how all your videos turn out!!
@biggeek2256 Жыл бұрын
As a man myself, Erza's weird and unnecessarily sexual torture scene disturbed the HELL out of me, like.... WHY?? I seriously hated EVERY MINUTE of that scene because I love Erza and seeing her like that was just.... wrong on SO MANY levels
@thomasraines1396 Жыл бұрын
I’ve started watching Fairy Tail with my friends and I haven’t seen anything that has Ezra being a Mary Sue, even with my limited knowledge of the series I thought she was loved by pretty much everyone.
@rossjones8656 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, videos like this helps me make fanfic so that I can do these characters justice.
@arcticdragon8593 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm just a general Fairy Tail lover. Erza has always been one of my favorite characters. I will say that if you don't follow fairy tale lore closely, a lot of the characters feel like Sues, especially Natsu. Natsu however is still my boy, but on the other hand it does largely annoy me when some other characters I really like don't get their chance to shine because of him. I understand why people have a problem with him ending the Tower of heaven arc, but personally I really liked it because it felt like Natsu, which symbolizes the heart and ideals of the Fairy Tail guild, was reeling Erza back, and helping her to realize that closing up her heart to the guild wasn't an option. Fairy Tail shares one heart. I understand that to those who might not be as invested that Natsu might seem like a sue, and the seemingly ridiculous a**pulls don't help, but it makes a lot more sense to those who actually know how E.N.D. works. Though personally I feel that it is just because of the fact that, like I said earlier, Natsu is the embodiment of Fairy Tail. That's why Natsu is so centrally focused. It's not because he has the most built up and emotional story or because he has the most important role or plot to overcome. It's because Natsu himself is Fairy Tail personified.
@glam46635 ай бұрын
Honestly people need to look up the definition of Mary Sue: Mary Sue is the term used to describe a fictional female character who has no flaws, is good at everything, always wins, and is loved by all, with Gary Stu being the male equivalent.
@samuelhuff3427 Жыл бұрын
Erza is the just the best. Men can beg and cowar at the feet of this woman!
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
What type of sick thought is this
@samuelhuff3427 Жыл бұрын
@@ReidnReactn gurlie, I said what I said.
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
@@samuelhuff3427 bro weird
@BlackXief5 ай бұрын
@@samuelhuff3427Blud thinks he's living in an anime 😂
@linebeckthejohoe4876 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of Fairy Tail (anymore) but Erza's always got a special place in my heart.
@chillmode4life Жыл бұрын
What made you hate the series?
@linebeckthejohoe4876 Жыл бұрын
@@chillmode4lifeHate's a very strong word, but the fanservice is very much what drove me away after a bit, plus I got more invested in many other series.
@Autistic_Changeling Жыл бұрын
Erza's birthday is either July 8th or April 7th depending on whether you want to go with her wiki or gamerant.
@gabnel1000 Жыл бұрын
Ezra deafeating Irene was one of the most unbelievable things in the story. With her win over Azuma in the Tenrogima arc being the second unbelievable win Other wins by fairy tail mages are also unbelievable, like Gray winning against Rufus.
@sivuyilepama71305 ай бұрын
@@gabnel1000 how did she beat Irene ?
@ellorasg4525 Жыл бұрын
Not sure how Erza is perfect, she is awkward af. She is not perfect, she has many flaws. Where did people see she was perfect?
@tempest_2222 Жыл бұрын
erza is perfect with her flaws
@xenrusxenomorph2268 Жыл бұрын
@@tempest_2222but the universe doesn't bend to her, she isn't even the main character. She has her moments in the arcs but like it's Natsu's show from beginning to end. Also Erza gets defeated plenty of times. Like she isn't invincible or unstoppable. And she never really bends the rules of the magic system.
@tempest_2222 Жыл бұрын
@@xenrusxenomorph2268 you missed my point. erza has flaws but her flaws are what make her perfect. being flawless makes a character boring and insufferable. erza’s flaws make her more human
@xenrusxenomorph2268 Жыл бұрын
@@tempest_2222 Yeah I apologize I actually did miss the point. I thought something compeltely different with your words. My bad
@chidzhustle3570 Жыл бұрын
Erza being called a Mary Sue is in response to her defeating Kyouka with 0 senses and one shotting a dragon with every single bone in her body broken. Arguing against that is nothing short of delusion, sorry. No male character does such ridiculous feats. And I actually adored Erza until she became dull power.
@cfogarty07 Жыл бұрын
Erza is a woman who is always breaking the bank in preparation and is skilled to end anyone and her armours she probably has been collecting them for years
@KushVlogsTV Жыл бұрын
She's an Aries, her bday is on April 7th. She does give Virgo energy as we clearly are the best so I appreciate the support.
@nnightmareg Жыл бұрын
erza being sexualised just feels wrong to me because of her past, i only like when shes confident in herself relating to her sexuality but when shes harassed or oogled by male characters it pisses me off!!!!! basically feel this way to all the girls because they’re all such good characters but theres always perverts… amazing video :3
@nnightmareg Жыл бұрын
im just glad Kyouka is a girl because if it was man torturing her it would of been even WORSE to watch, its already cringe and just gross and uncomfortable but it coukd have been more horrific
@2002dash Жыл бұрын
The only time I ever thought erza was even close to mary sue. Is ironically the kyouka fight. She literally loses all of her 5 senses. Is basically in a void. And then just.... fights normally anyway? I dont remember if they gave any kind of explanation she just does it.
@_StarXDust_ Жыл бұрын
They did. It was because she's erza🤦🏼♀️
@jmrmd92728 ай бұрын
The explanation given was that when she lost her 5 senses her 6th sense got more strong, but Happy for some motive says right after the explanation that "she won cuz she's Erza", I hate when Happy says that cuz it feels like Mashima himself is invalidating his own writing and giving fuel to the haters and the people who says Erza is a mary sue on purpose.
@evangelinevang50905 ай бұрын
Mary sue means they never lose or never gets hurt. In Erza case, she’s always put in danger cause she is the strongest. She makes sacrifices that no one else in the guild will do. She takes her time in battle to focus on enemies weaknesses and timing. She estimates in battle so well.
@colejohnson1764 ай бұрын
As someone who loves Ezra’s character thanks for making this video. I’ll never forget when Jellal got arrested and she started crying when she went off alone. I just love Erza and her character
@LuckyLucifer253 ай бұрын
One thing fairy tail does right is make the female characters feel actually relevant and important to the plot.
@tophatdoctor78554 ай бұрын
Erza’s always been my favourite character in Fairy Tail, with Laxus as a close second. She always felt like the most well written, most consistently badass character who had the most non-Natsu spotlight (I like Natsu but yh he really does soak up too much glory). You could sick Natsu on whatever bad guy and he’ll find a way to grit down and win even if he’s not necessarily strong enough at base, but Erza felt like the one really keeping people safe. More than Natsu or Gildarts or even Makarov, she felt like the pillar of the guild. Her being called a Mary Sue, she’s strong and well respected but both of those things are earned.
@ThoraxetheImpaile1007 ай бұрын
The only reason I can think of as to why people would call Erza a Mary Sue is the fact that the show after a while leans into the whole "power of friendship conquers all" trope a little too hard. That being said, I do believe Erza is a well written character and not Mary Sue.
@hibasiddiqui95583 ай бұрын
Decided to come back to this video because I just recently came across one of your older Winx club fashion review videos and came to the realization that you need to do one of those for Fairy Tail more specifically the fashion/the outfits in Fairy Tail.
@lunarshadow5584 Жыл бұрын
Erza Scarlet is probably one of the best female role models you could ever have, and a wife anyone would be lucky to have. Not just strong and not just beautiful but also has a VERY cute side as well as a VERY dominant side. Not to mention what kind of mother she would be with her extremely supportive, caring, domineering personality she has.
@NinjaxPrime Жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised that Erza is thought of as an overpowered Mary Sue. It's been a while since I watched this show but I remember her mostly as a consistent victim of the Worf Effect.
@quartz9646 Жыл бұрын
Me and my brother kinda go back and fourth on erza a lot(fairy tail in general, i love the series, he doesnt, but this is about Erza) i love Erzas character, she has some of the best moments, one of my favorite arcs, shes also just kinda a dork being real, but in the best way, the way she loves theater in the filler, loves strawberries and overall when shes not fighting just being fun to watch makes me love her more, and her VA does a beyond perfect job as her! my brother says shes an annoying narcissist, like when she got pissed at everyone for going on an S class mission for in his words, no real good reason, at least if i remember correctly, bit either way, i think hes wrong, and that Erza is amazing, how can i not love her so much? Long live the fairy Queen!
@hdemerald1012 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Lesbians who are enjoying the fanservice XP That aside Erza is one of my favorite character in Fairy tail, strong, and scary but also sweet, caring and compassion, it's always fun to see her on screen being a bad bitch or a loveable dork.
@Mathue360 Жыл бұрын
The Queen of the fairies deserved this video. I love this manga and anime. Glad to see someone showing some love.
@stormstrider1990 Жыл бұрын
I love Erza so much. She's my favorite character in Fairy Tail hands down. She is kind, badass, and sexy at the same time.
@christianthrasher8677 Жыл бұрын
Erza Is an icon a legend and she is the moment
@crimsondragon704 Жыл бұрын
Also Erza's Initial design makes her forehead look huge... Wait, Erza, I didn't mean it, Erza please... NOOOOO!!!!
@otakuking99104 ай бұрын
I know im late to the party but I figured I would throw my two cents into the ring. I dont think anyone who actually watches fairy tail would consider erza a mary sue. She's literally one of the best written female characters in action Shonen (which when you think about it is kinda sad) the only women I can think of that receives more love is mereoleona vermillion from black clover
@velve5037 Жыл бұрын
Erza was like one of the best characters from Fairy Tail but after Season 3 shit just went downhill. The fan service became more abundant and as a female viewer that turned me off from fairy tail. Wendy was like a little ass kid and they still threw fan service her way which scares me. The power ups and how the characters were able to do certain bullshit is crazy as well. Also that weird torture and sexual scene is just a no go for me. Fairy tail just wasn't the same for me anymore.
@jhoncartagenapena6797 Жыл бұрын
When Wendy was sexualized?
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
When was wendy sexualized ?? The fanservice in the final season isnt even that bad it’s practically the same as it was before Most of characters dont pull shit out of their ass there is generally explanation’s theres very few exceptions to this rule
@velve5037 Жыл бұрын
@@ReidnReactn Eh I stopped watching fairy tail a long time ago but if you Google Wendy's name you'll definitely see some scenes where she was put in a fan service situation. Also I still think when Erza had all of her bones broken in her body it made absolutely 0 zero sense on how she was able to shoot herself up to break a meteorite. Just my personal opinion lol take it with a grain of salt.
@ReidnReactn Жыл бұрын
@@velve5037 i googled her name any sexual thing i saw was not in fairy tail it was fan art and yeah thats just plot armor its not gonna make sense
@thomaskennedy5728 Жыл бұрын
She is no way a Mary Sue. She is strong and had flaws which she tried her best to hide from others.
@ghhoulx Жыл бұрын
i haven't even watched the video yet but i agree 100%!! i remember getting into anime for the first time and she immediately became one of my first female character crushes, not only because i thought she was beautiful and loved her design, but also because she was one of the few well-written female characters in anime at the time, and she actually felt real and likeable. i always saw sm hype for lucy and how she was the best female character, and she's great, but i always felt like erza had more depth and lore than lucy despite being a deuteragonist and not the primary main character. her arc and backstory always really hit whenever i rewatch it and her want to always protect her friends always resonated with me i love her smm
@dramonmaster222 Жыл бұрын
This video just makes me want to get Fairy Tale DVDs even more.
@YamiKaiba Жыл бұрын
Mary sue for sure. An example of this. That she could stop a meteor with a broken body except for one arm. That's what really did it for me because no other character in Fairy Tail could accomplish such a feat.
@raw086 Жыл бұрын
Wow I’m not into the fairy tail fandom never knew people disliked her character Ezra and Lucy always been my favorites
@ZoroKing_ Жыл бұрын
Nothing better than opening KZbin and getting a well make Fairy Tail video recommended
@robinfernando5970 Жыл бұрын
You've gone and done it. You've convinced me to finally give Fairy Tail a chance after years of actively avoiding it because of its depictions of women. And like, yea, it's still kinda weird in that regard but it's a solid show and now I'm hooked!! Also Erza is my favourite character, I love her sm.
@weebneed8114 Жыл бұрын
i love this. it explains why i love Erza, and now im sending this to like 4 people
@TitanXecutor Жыл бұрын
I once considered Natsu my favorite character, but now that title goes to the Queen of the Fairies herself after thinking alot about it. And she deserves it.
@sevenequalsoneheart6710 Жыл бұрын
I think with Bloom's Mary Sueness that maybe if instead of the CGI films secret of the lost kingdom and magical adventure should have been the 4th and 5th seasons with a little interquel in between magical adventure and the season four we ended up getting showing Bloom slowly losing her fiery edge and learning to channel that anger of hers. At least then we could see things fall into place a lot better. Plotpoints not being dropped and the winx showing off enchantix more
@jhoshie5440 Жыл бұрын
A little correction about Irene and Erza, it is true that Irene intended to enchant herself to the body of Erza when she was just in her belly BUT Irene didn't really leave her because she failed but because she realized it was wrong and she left Erza in the village before she loses her sense of reason, and this the reason why Irene chose to kill herself because she realized she can't kill her own daughter because deep inside she loves her.
@delanireid10 ай бұрын
One think I do disagree with is Nakagami armor coming out of nowhere and her character designs. As for character designs I cannot lie, I'm a straight male so maybe that's a factor but Nakagami is at least top 3. Maybe my favorite armor and the sea empress isn't bad at all. Apart from that Nakagami coming out of nowhere isn't a problem. Her whole power is gaining new armors. If throughout the story, she started gaining new armors or explaining how she got it then that would be a problem but since she doesn't, the same applies for this armor. It wasn't used in 10 years but that's all we know about it. Erza was holding back 2nd origin the entire fight so the strongest known woman on the continent getting the power up makes Nakagami justifiable. Pulling a new move after getting a powerup = pulling new armor after getting a powerup. She has it in her arsenal, just not enough power until now.
@aeonofdisaster Жыл бұрын
I always just thought that Erza either won, bought or found all of her armours/weapons and had them altered to suit her. The problem her making them all on her own would be enchanting them with their magical attributes which she doesn't learn how to do until after meeting Irene and getting help from Wendy offscreen
@ItsOfficiaI Жыл бұрын
This is really good and is starting to motivate me to make that Jellal video I've been wanting to make.
@Carra_Mell0 Жыл бұрын
“Ill keep standing til i have you in the dirt” That line gagged me. She ate with that.
@sekiweras7475 Жыл бұрын
the pirates are Erza stans.period
@robertlinke2666 Жыл бұрын
well for natsu being a sue, the last season and his fight with zeref come to mind, what was that.. he literally one punched the guy, the biggest baddest demon creating dark wizard of all time, and he gets punched and goes out. NO
@OldenGordonIV Жыл бұрын
I love Erza, but Happy will always be my favorite. P.s I really appreciate you pronouncing the character's names correctly.