Eshelman "Flying Flounder" preview...

Cheston Eshelman was an American inventor, aviator, manufacturer of aircraft, boats, garden machinery and small automobiles
In 1941 Eshelman developed, built and repeatedly demonstrated a wingless pancake-shaped airplane, the NX28993
But first hit the headlines in 1939 when, as a 22 year-old airplane mechanic and novice pilot, his rented airplane crashed into the Atlantic. When rescued, he was reported to have been carrying a pistol, sandwiches, two chocolate bars and 55 cents. Eshelman made the papers by telling police that his intent was "not to fly to Europe, but rather to fly to Mars"... The officer handcuffed him to make sure he would “remain on this planet.”

[@antonkloeck1767]

Julio tu eres Grande🎉 Saludos de Alemania. Toni de Garmisch-Partenkirchen

[@petebike]

Dear stability, I don’t need you... I never loved you! I’m breaking up with you!

[@JessHull]

hahahah

[@Bearthedancingman]

This video must have been fun to make! I enjoyed the music and the sound effects. It was fun to watch.

[@julioaeroperu]

Yes, it's been fun to make the video but it's also been heavily criticized by those who don't value the work of modeling something so strange and without 3 view drawings or more web information ,.. I'll do it again and try to get it to fly this time. Thank you Artorius...

[@Bearthedancingman]

@@julioaeroperu you're modeling skill is amazing. And if you get it to fly, I'd love if you could explain some of the design choices you made to get it there. Low AR aircraft are my passion and while I haven't yet had time or financial ability to begin building and experimenting with any of the ideas I have, these rare, unusual aircraft like the Flying Flounder are amazing. It seems like these aircraft always perform much better than the critics predict. Plus they look awesome.

[@julioaeroperu]

@@Bearthedancingman Thank you very much for your comment. I would like to have good news... but trying to make it fly was destroyed beyond repair. Maybe I´d try again the flying flounder. Meanwhile I'll be sharing soon more rare projects. Julio

[@whalesong999]

Too bad it didn't quite make it to controlled flight. Good synch work with the engine sound, mostly that of a big V12 from WW2, not a little flat four with less than 100hp. Was fun to watch, I was heavily involved with RC for years, good successes, one a scratch built Davis DA-2A in 1/4 scale. Was a good flyer but intermodulation interference wiped it out in '85.

[@hadleymanmusic]

I was homebuilt sick and a ap mechanic told me " build one of these"

[@miguelsalami]

Love the sound effects my condolences to your pilot how tragic that must have been. Keep up the good work! 🇺🇸

[@julioaeroperu]

Ha, ha. Thanks Miguel...having lots of fun!!

[@MasboyRC]

Your model really awesome 👍 Love your pilot, it's so hilarious 🤣

[@md-bo7in]

As a pilot myself this looks like a terrible way to die

[@jaysheti8309]

😆😆😆You can say that again!.

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

The Eshelman Flying Flounder, described in Aerofiles, may come from patents US2167143 and US2303713, by R J Thompson

[@doranjaffas7351]

Funny,, I thought the original footage of the take-off looked very stable. I would be interested in plans and maybe building a full-scale version. Not for everyday flying of course but it really did not look too bad. Spin around Aviation all of my 58 years and I've been around experimental most of that time. This design I think for it era this is very interesting.

[@bng737]

Build in full-scale it would be perfect , agree

[@danielsprouls9458]

The us navy produced a series of these aircraft in the early part of WW2. They could take off in short distances but landing visibility was iffy. In the end the improving conventional designs out preformed them. There were some performances advantages, but they couldn't over come the shortcomings.

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

Which US Navy airplanes you refer to? Pls provide references! For landing visibility, besides downlooking windows, you have cameras, screens, FPV,..

[@paogene1288]

​@@joseveintegenario-nisu1928Maybe the Vought Flying Flapjack.

[@captainTubes]

Nice RC car, it need a smaller prop and a smaller motor so it can be lighter and quieter and safer 👌 safety first

[@BarDog57]

So.... Did the RC model ever fly?

[@howardmaryon-davis666]

Looks like the comments agree that it is a bad design, but like the narrator said, things like this help designers of the future-anyone remember the NASA “lifting body” experiments?

[@Tubajock2]

I have one of his garden tractors. Its cool to see someone make his crazy designs.

[@EamonnSeoigh]

Appears there wasn't enough angle of attack to get it off the ground? Didn't even get close......pilot had the right idea.

[@josega6338]

Estimado anglófilo mr Fairlie (eso me dicen): ¿Algún dato sobre la envergadura, peso y potencia del aparato real de Eshelman? Los aeroplanos de bajo alargamiento aterrizan con una pendiente grande, en oblicuo más que en tangente, deberían ser buenos para pistas de aterrizaje extremadamente difíciles. ¿No? Salut +

[@julioaeroperu]

Las alas de bajo ratio (low AR) no entran en pérdida hasta alcanzar exagerados ángulos de ataque, y el peligro de tirabuzones o spins es remoto. Por eso con éstas alas de bajo Aspect Ratio son posibles las aproximaciones lentas, seguras y con elevados ángulos de ataque. (ideales para campos cortos o portaaviones) Éste tipo de diseños con los trenes de aterrizaje exageradamente largos reflejan ésta característica. Estuve buscando información y datos del verdadero Eshelman en Google, pero no encontré nada. El modelo sólo lo hice basándome en fotos y vistas de perfilo y en planta. En mis videos verás que no sólo soy anglófilo... también admiro los diseños franceses, italianos, alemanes, etc, etc...jaja! Gracias por tu comentario José. Un abrazo

[@josega6338]

@@julioaeroperu Cierto, las alas de bajo alargamiento son así, lo de su difícil entrada en barrena no lo sabía (¿Y el 'Dutch Roll'? Dijeron que el avión de Raoul Hoffman, 1937 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4u2fHWprJiEmJI no llevaba diedro para evitar eso, o para disminuir la resistencia; hoy lo harían con 'Winglets') Ya había mirado esas fuentes: Aerofiles, Wikipedia,... quizás sabiendo los diámetros de hélice que admitía el motor del 'Flying Flounder' pueda deducirse, de las fotos, la envergadura. Gracias. Salut +

[@josega6338]

​@@julioaeroperu Hay dos patentes de R J Thompson parecidas a la de C Eshelman: US2167143; y US2303713, con cosas semejantes a los Lippisch X-112, patente US3190582; un biplaza de 160 kg de peso, con un motor de 25 CV kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn69eqWfmtJgrtk, y Lippisch X-113, copiado en Irán: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4WsoJiwnbeGack con un motor Subaru. Cheston L Eshelman solicitó la protección como 'Diseño': USD137628S. Salud +

[@josega6338]

@@julioaeroperu Aquí al spin o tirabuzon le llaman 'entrar en barrena'. Salud +

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

No hay nada en Espacenet sobre Eshelman, pero hay una patente casi idéntica de Thompson. Si la hélice tendría un diámetro de 190 cm, se puede estimar la envergadura. Todo lo que tenga menos de 248 cm de ancho, aquí envergadura, puede circular en carretera, lo que tenga tres ruedas no es auto, es motocicleta, hubo un auto movido por hélice frontal carenada, 'shrouded fan', el 'Helicar', uno de los que quedan está en Málaga.

[@guidospaini7339]

¡Ta güeno compadre...! Pero, ¿voló?

[@julioaeroperu]

muy inestable, y en una de las pruebas de vuelo...murió. Jaja Volveré a intentarlo en algún futuro cercano. Gracias por tu interés Guido

[@tedshredz58]

Roll stability balanced on a knife edge.

[@JFrazer4303]

Best of luck getting another model flying. Not much is known about this plane, other than the one short video with it. 130hp seems like it was strongly over-powered. It must have been a bullet at maximum speed. The Arup S-2 had only 37 hp for 95+kts, and the Canova "flatfish" flew with much less power than this.

[@julioaeroperu]

You're certainly right...! It should be very fast (at least it was very fast when it broke up...ha ha ha) I will correct some aerodynamic issues, and try it again. Thanks for your comment John...!

[@JFrazer4303]

@@julioaeroperu 156kts for the original plane, and it was stable.

[@jeffmullinix7916]

Pilot error . Pilot forgot to strap him self in .

[@kingjames1586]

pilot ejected prior to liftoff?

[@hadleymanmusic]

I like this it seems to be fast. Ive seen the s-4 arup when I was a kid. Id like to build a modern type. The man at the museam where the arup was said he would use metal and not wood if he were to build one.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

Very cool!!

[@hadleymanmusic]

Parachute included?

[@tombstonefpv9053]

I laughed so hard when the pilot fell out on take off. Ha, there's a man that know when it's time to get out early.

[@zeuso.1947]

Ummm, that's not a "pilot". At about minute 2.38 the video switches to an RC model. The bailing pilot is a plastic bust.

[@tombstonefpv9053]

@@zeuso.1947 I'm gonna assume you're kidding. I kinda noticed that he was missing half his torso. 🤣🤣

[@zeuso.1947]

@@tombstonefpv9053 Glad you noticed. You made no suggestion of the "pilot" being a plastic toy in an RC plane.

[@tombstonefpv9053]

@@zeuso.1947 , sorry man I was just making a joke, do you fly RC?

[@zeuso.1947]

@@tombstonefpv9053 Just a few drones for video and fun.

[@michaelreed9652]

Ich bin begeistert jawohl

[@walterkersting1362]

I’m not getting into anything called a flounder.

[@Viking380]

There’s something fishy about it.

[@hadleymanmusic]

With lateral instability move cg forward?

[@JessHull]

I love the little aileron fins they're like cute little flippers.

[@jappletonhowe9649]

AND................does it fly?

[@ulfnowotny01]

Love the music!

[@joaquinsampedro2783]

Muy divertido el corretear por la pista con la música y el despiste del piloto....pero vuela?

[@julioaeroperu]

Ya lo lograré volar...si es que no me deprimo con tanta crítica de los gringos...Jajajajaja!! Gracias Joaquín

[@lorlahhay]

Good

[@decadantdog4444]

I see it has an ejection seat.

[@whatnextjoe]

I love your videos. Que paso no aileron response ?

[@julioaeroperu]

Jajaja...not only that, but also wrong CG location, and 3 seconds later it crashed ! Back to the drawing board...

[@whatnextjoe]

I hope to see it again, I'm sure you can work out the problem. Good luck and Thanks for sharing

[@julioaeroperu]

And the reflex in the wing profile that I had choose, is not the right one (I think...) Lets see

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

​@@julioaeroperuQué perfil recomendarías para este 'Lenguado volante'? Tu 'Planchista' volaba bien...

[@kmlvr89]

2:15 😃😃😃😃😃👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@juanalmodovarcabrera7759]

Esos eran los primeros cazas ?

[@MegaGuitarpicker]

Designed on a bluff. Operates on the same principle....

[@time.5316]

You can get a brick to fly if you give it enough thrust.

[@johnklar5131]

I loved the toy pilot flying out.

[@joaquinsampedro2783]

Muy bien Julio, muy guapo👍

[@thehark6247]

grapefruit balls required.

[@afterburner2869]

Thumbs down for wasting my time.

[@julioaeroperu]

Just enjoy the music guys...while I'll try to figure out how to make it fly, Ha ha ha...!

[@vanillagorilla8236]

Similar to the flying flapjack the Vought XF5U.

[@FatGuyFliesRC]

So very awesome!!!!

[@OdeeOz]

Big thumbs down for not finishing the video, and the Spanish subtitles.

[@SCCIT-jq6jh]

Pancakes, flounders they are all flat!.

[@Bearthedancingman]

Don't forget the German "flying beer tray". lol

[@austinbartose6527]

I’m guessing the rc version didn’t fly very well.

[@longbowshooter5291]

I'm guessing that's why the video ended when it did. I envision a wingover into the ground after the video cut off.

[@diamondback662]

Daily Star wants to buy your UFO footage...

[@schautamatic]

Birds fly. Men eat flounders! 😄😄

[@jaimeagustinramirezblandon6960]

Muy bueno.... cuamto suspenso y anciedad !

[@SSmith-fm9kg]

looks like the Flounder foundered.

[@vanillagorilla8236]

Similar to the flying Pancake.

[@rlguerrero2263]

The funniest design ever

[@gregtanouslasering]

Hi I would love to see someone make it in the much lighter far superior German Depron foam ok? see RcDepron.com

[@pierrepauljacque4663]

hahaha le pilot a peur il a préférer sauté avant

[@xpeterson]

I can only imagine what the induced drag on this thing was...

[@JFrazer4303]

Short aspect-ratio planes don't have high drag unless they're trying to fly slowly. at ~50% power and 30 degrees + A, the wingtip vortices close around behind it, trapping a "bubble" of low pressure allowing them to fly slowly. At the same time it traps the flow from the leading edge over the top, preventing it from separating, so they don't stall. This is presented in a NASA publication at the site for the Wainfan facetmobile. The extreme drag and high lift is not permanent. They don't always carry around a burden of high induced drag. It's elective and temporary. See also the Arup planes of the 1930s, progenitors of the Vought plane. Arup S-2 was ~800 lbs, and 37 hp engine took it 85 kts. Arup S-4 was 1100+ lbs, and 69 hp engine took it 100 kts, with silly slow 18 kt landing speed. Facetmobile had a tiny engine, and could fly at less than 16kts, where the pitot tube stopped working. Not draggy.

[@renatomoreira5806]

😁😁😁😁👏👍

[@amilhasan007]

Looks like a bug

[@royalanania3306]

Feeeoooo!!!!!! Pero palante.

[@julioaeroperu]

Tienes razón...Jajaja!

[@32132187]

Ты летать будешь сегодня???!!!

[@ORMA1]

The better fake I've never seen

[@lorenbaez1829]

A wing interceptor

[@dalestephan6777]

See stealth isn't new lol

[@ivansidorov2424]

dummy pilot prefer to leave the plane before takeoff. even a doll don't want to fly on this "thing"

[@mikegood228]

Fly like tri plane, red baron plane

[@manufacturingdefect1287]

You should try comedy

[@КостяПак-ъ6й]

..хахаха..👍👍👍👍👍

[@ЮрийАрхипов-в5у]

Ээээ... Каков Шустрик

[@gorgmaybe6154]

охуенно!

[@РоманГнатюк-ш8з]

...... !!!!!!!!! ...........!

[@puch6535]

5 поколение!!

[@G56AG]

Eject Eject!

[@screaminlordbyron7767]

What a terrible video! Music was 10 times louder than the commentary. . Video was ok but changed from black and white to colour near the end. And ends before takeoff! Waste of time!

[@MichaelSHartman]

Yawn.

[@岩井健二-m4n]

アメリカ軍のUFO開発ビデオかと思った。

[@WindThrusters]

It doesn't fly

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

It went Airborne