ESO Chapters Vs Seasons

[@StarOfElyon]

ESO plus subscribers should NEVER have to pay for a season pass.

[@individual116]

10% discount

[@benaugustknudsenbkh]

@@individual116 🤣😂

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Fr 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@GabrielVitor-kq6uj]

they probably wont, as a matter of fact, the ESO plus might be the season pass now.

[@PurrfectMotivation]

@@GabrielVitor-kq6ujif they charge for both they will kill the community. Surely they can’t be that greedy 🥲

[@JohnSmith-ci8db]

Years ago, when I was much younger, I played a game called Star Wars Galaxies. I loved it and poured countless hours into it. However, when the servers eventually shut down, I was struck by the sudden realization that all the time and money I had invested amounted to nothing. I mention this because if we see ESO heading in a similar direction-introducing a battle pass with limited story development or rehashed old content simply to tick off boxes (à la Destiny), and offering little more than cosmetic rewards-then, for me personally, that will mark the end of my journey with the game. At the end of the day, those cosmetic rewards are just pixels on a screen, destined to vanish into the ether when the servers go offline. What keeps me engaged is the story. If that is sacrificed in favor of Zenimax-and now Microsoft-focusing purely on profit with minimal game development, then I can’t justify continuing to invest my time and money in it. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

[@tejasshastha5457]

Unfortunately, it probably will.

[@ЯрославСуський]

Community frustrated because most of us look at directors letter like less content in 2025 . 2024 already was less content then 2023 and years before.

[@bindair_dundat]

Exactly! And two points on a graph make a line. And that line doesn't appear to be going where we want it to go.

[@chrizlo7246]

Skipping the January announcement is concerning. They are giving up that preorder money, which implies they lack confidence in what they have to offer.

[@theangryimp1345]

It does. I wounder why...

[@brianherrera1390]

Facts. 😂😂😂😂

[@DaedriikPrince]

That could be the case, but not really though .... Like I noticed the Destiny 2 game are doing the same thing now, they're not releasing new expansions every year now, just episodes. And these Episodes can come out anytime between 3-6 months. Just like where ZOS is heading with this game now, and probably other MMOs as well. Usually after a big anniversary of them game, 10 years!

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Yep 😂

[@zombiejesus7445]

8:10 I have 1.2k hours in ESO since 2019. The second they add a "paid battle pass", that will be the last day I ever put any money into the game

[@dakotawilson]

100%. If it is extra on top of eso plus/if they do away with eso plus. Im out.

[@individual116]

10% doscount

[@zombiejesus7445]

​@@dakotawilsonWouldn't care if ESO + covered it... I wouldn't get ESO +. Battle passes are only made to take sections out of games to sell to you ON TOP of putting a laundry list of stuff you need to do to actually get what you paid for! You pay for the grind, if I am going to grind a game, I should be rewarded... No "fee-ed" for it.

[@zombiejesus7445]

I love ESO, but you can clearly tell that they "create a problem and sell the solution"... A battle pass would make it worse Golden pursuits are a nice add.. next they will remove the mounts and costumes and move it to the "paid Golden pursuit" while adding XP scrolls and general crafting mats to the "unpaid - aka poor Golden pursuit"

[@silentgaming5010]

​@@dakotawilson only way to do away with eso plus would be integra tinglado the crafting back in the game for free. No way can they take that away from yearlong players. I would not play if 30% of time playing i had to spend sorting mats.

[@davidkemp2421]

The lore is so deep in this game and this universe that it's got me no matter what it does. 😅

[@izi_Lk]

I don't have a lot of time to play. I like eso current model is kind of slow based, the events are short and don't really take alot of time. But battlespasses in other games are such a grind and take so much time to complete i don't even bother with those games. If they follow that model it's gonna suck.

[@theangryimp1345]

"Oh no we're losing players" "Lets add the most hated trend in gaming and stop making new maps that people love!" "Oh no! We're losing even more players!!!" Brain rot.

[@salinaember9527]

"stop adding stuff and fix the game" that's what i've been seeing for years.

[@tejasshastha5457]

It doesn’t matter if they lose players, if spending per player increases. In fact it’s even better for them, since server loads go down and would help automatically fix cyrodiil, among other issues.

[@FernandoPerez-zx2vz]

And they are going woke now too. One of the signs is that they gave pronouns to a companion and are changing a lot of dialogues and text options to censore them stupidly specially in the spanish version. Go woke go broke, that is a law

[@benaugustknudsenbkh]

I really enjoyed the chapters. Large new zones with tons of content. With this news i feel like there is nothing special to look forward for. No clear path. With the chapters we got raids, classes new large mechanics. Idk about these new seasons, if there is a paid Battle pass i am done.

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Yeah

[@LBCreateSpace]

ESO plus should just be the season pass - include all DLCs, etc so people never get confused about jewelry crafting being in Summerset again 😂

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Yes it should

[@ParalyzerT9-Personal]

Great video man! I voted for cautiously optimistic, and I'm looking forward to when we have more information. I'm an avid Destiny 2 player as well, and I can speak from experience that seasons can be a fantastic content model. They can also be horrible lol! Thanks for the awesome content as always!

[@simonw1252]

Ebonheart Pact approves of the Intro Joke.... THIS time....🧐

[@jamicassidy7955]

Bugs fixes are always number one. Quality of life is number two. New content is number three.

[@zombiejesus7445]

You can't sell bug fixes. That is the problem

[@jamicassidy7955]

@ Yeah I thought about mentioning that. New stuff sells. Fixes make existing players happy but hard to market. It does increase profit, since happy players spend more and tell their friends.

[@minikilla3568]

@@jamicassidy7955I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone talk about ESO in a good way. That’s also coming from someone who’s played for literal years! The first thing I tell them is the amount of DLC’s and how predatory the shop is on trying to get you to gamble. They tend to make their own opinion after about lvl 30-40 and it’s never good. The game could be awesome but they just don’t seem to listen to fans at all. I play seldomly now and enjoy the events that come by.

[@bindair_dundat]

F*ck bug fixes and QoL. I want to explore more of Tamriel. And they already robbed us of two Q4 zones in the last two years.

[@peetsmcgoo5869]

the main thing about eso is it has incredible charm but everyone who plays does so ''despite the neglect''. I shows more of the discrepancy of love for the game between devs and the community. It's a money cow but that's what Bethesda is at this point.

[@KeepTheRest]

I like ESO but as part developer team myself the main reason for these changes is to move resources around to other projects but still make content without closing down. Zenimax is making a new game and this would make sense from a business perspective to polish that game before release so no backlash like other Bethesda games. So my guess is when the new game is released and its succesfuld then Zenimax will do like with Bethesda and Fallout 76 and outsource to an external company. But that being said some of the better new addition to Fallout 76 is made by the external partner.

[@jamicassidy7955]

If new content is finally properly included in Plus, great. Paying $60 AUD for a new chapter, and $15 AUD every month for plus, is dumb. Especially when that same $60 AUD chapter will be included in Plus later. Makes you feel cheated out of $60 AUD for nothing.

[@minikilla3568]

I say the same thing about console exclusives. Way different topic I know but kinda the same in a way. Waiting a whole 6-12 months just to finally play the new DLC that dropped.

[@bindair_dundat]

If you think they are going to give more for less, you haven't been paying attention.

[@markoosh]

Why don’t you people buy DLCS on discount with sub money? I subbed for 6 months to get enough crowns to buy all the DLCs on 40% off and never subbed again. Cut my daily writs to 4 characters, mats sorting once in the weekend, with 4 storage alts, and quickslot a merchant to sell uneeded mats that clog inventory = monthly sub money saved.

[@tauiin]

never stop with your dad jokes jakeclips

[@AIIRth]

Jake...lets talk about elephant in the room. After 5 years of playing last week I got booted from server from bg, in vSS lag was abysmal that I had to use only one bar, and it hurts to talk about Cyro at all etc, etc, etc...... So I feel cheated for my end game. what I want is for game to work, just that -and there are many many people I know with same problem only they don't talk they just quit. AND IT IS NOT MY INTERNET! performance got significantly worse lately, so they just have to FIX THE GAME or everything will be in vain.

[@gatorbites5677]

I'm kind of glad they're taking a break from chapters. I didn't even bother with the last two because of how samey all the main quest storylines are. As long as the seasons aren't locked behind a paywall then I'm good

[@EbonEden]

Compared to other MMOs, ESO has had way less expansion content for years. Now, they seem to be promising even less. Gold Road was noticeably underwhelming. You couldn’t even enter half the buildings in Skingrad. There are just better MMOs to play. That’s why everyone has left.

[@BattlewarPenguin]

Gold Road and scribing is for late game, if he doesn't know the skills, have the gold, and the know-how about the classes it can be a pretty hard thing to get into, specially after being tossed around a lot of zones. Don't forget the new player is learning about everything else too. About the other subject, I don't like to think about bps, it's a great investment of resources and the time factor is underwhelming. Them providing things of value is really hard too, but I can see up to 3 *static* cosmetic set branches (heavy/medium/light themed) per class, maybe with unique pets/special effects/etc. And then *static* cosmetic branch for different zones, maybe with extra character slot/size inventory/zone inspired set/pets/skill effect palette/etc. If those things were well priced, and provided good value, that may work.

[@zombiejesus7445]

7:47 please don't say Fallout 76... All I can think of was that $100 pass they sold so you could play the game solo... Or that $120 rum bottle. Even worse, that shitty collectors bag that looked like it was from Stop & Shop

[@dlzzydavedlzzydave4958]

Ive always looked forward to the release of new chapters in ESO, knowing now they are finishing the yearly update for Seasonal content / Battlepass is kinda worrying. Ive played many games over the years that have moved onto the Seasonal / Battlepass system and they have never been any good. But thats just my personal opinion.

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Yes

[@mr.xernorus4026]

I object season pass or season stuff. Im a casual player, so I hate to miss time limited stuff.

[@minikilla3568]

I just hate how you can’t just pick and choose what BP you’re on. I mean I payed money for said content and I’m being punished for not rushing through and hopping on every SINGLE day? I may not get putang but I’ll be damned if I don’t at least touch grass each day!

[@Mark-k5v1z]

Nothing bad will happen if you miss limited stuff, just enjoy the game.

[@sherlockthepug6745]

Wasn’t April of the Jubilee event?

[@Aptonoth]

Seems like maintenance mode and the majority of people are in denial they are working on a new mmo. Knowing the modern "AAA" gaming industry this will be bare bones at best.If there is enough consent in there it equals a chapter's worth of Story content but spread out a lil I don't mind. Unfortunately I have no hope being burned by ZoS so much. I'll let you guys be the guinea pigs on this one. I haven't seriously played ESO since High Isle and not gon a lie this is 99% chance my final few months with ESO. I'm wrapping up my current eso stuff in game now and getting my big final stuff I wanted to get done like housing ect.

[@felipearevalo5947]

Jake, any idea if the ZoS will add a Class Change Token anytime? People have been asking for this for years now.

[@DrizztRPG]

That letter is a sweet lie from mr 'yes man'

[@Official_JakeClips]

Which part do you think is a lie

[@sugmadic]

Zos has been lying us past 5 years.​@@Official_JakeClips

[@breitsight3167]

I feel like the golden pursuits is already them experimenting with what parts of a bp could look like. I think a model would be good where you still buy big new story content/get it with eso plus and then have the bp in addition to that for more cosmetic whatever stuff

[@zombiejesus7445]

2:51 why do people say "season are 3-6months"? When was the last time the summer latest 1/2 the year?

[@Official_JakeClips]

Call them semesters 📝

[@markoosh]

Jake what do you think they mean by splitting larger zones? Are we talking existing zones (which I’d hate) or newer/unknown zones?

[@Official_JakeClips]

A mixture of both

[@harrykleinfelter3538]

Don't mind the long video. You do a good job explaining things. You also don't let people post negative things without making them explain why they posted what they did. It's good to make people accountable for what they're posting.

[@thatcat8442]

Cautious optimistic. Depends on pricing.

[@Midgard24]

People complaining about paying for Battle pass but don't complain about paying for Chapters ? I'm all for it especially if its a way for people to keep eso plus a little longer then they normally would instead of people subbing stocking up their crafting bag and homes then unsubscribing, in the end the game needs to make money or theres no game. Also huge benefit to new players if it includes all previous chapters.

[@Axzuna]

ESO + is already a Battle Pass..Why the hell would we want to pay more $? When everything like crowns is already Outrageous?

[@marksimmons1575]

love Eso. love your videos... hope they don't f it up.

[@JustinMcBride-n7m]

I don’t have eso plus. I wait for the Black Friday sales on the PS store to pick up the new chapters. I mainly focus on solo content but dabble in battle grounds every now and again. This change seems like a positive as variety is the spice if life. Revisiting current maps will give me reasons to go back and increase replay value. If the battle pass or seasons is locked behind eso plus or is somehow gate keeps essential content then that would definitely push players away from the game. I feel timed content outside of cosmetics will do the same.

[@jahloveinfla]

depending on how they do the battle pass eso plus should get it free OR there should be enough in game currency provided monthly in the daily rewards to buy the pass

[@VirtualDarKness]

If something made me shudder... 6:24 😱

[@MultiKwolf]

They should reduce the price of all DLCs and subscriptions. It’s been over 10 years, and while the game still holds up well, the content is outdated and definitely not worth $50, $40, or even $30 for chapters needed for scrying, scribing, or accessing OP gear. The game is full of gatekeeping-like needing a subscription to gift your friends crowns and then having to wait 30 days after subscribing. It’s ridiculous. I’m not blind to how greedy this is. Sure, I bought all the overpriced DLCs, but I can’t even play with friends who haven’t. It’s fine, though-once Elder Scrolls 6 drops, it’s goodbye to ESO. This whole experience has left a sour taste.

[@Jesse-eu6mn]

I really really dislike the idea of a battle pass. It could be a reason i will play it less. Seals of Endeavor is really a thin edge for me

[@kylesinclair9025]

Needs to he included in ESO plus with a free tier available to all players for it to be even remotely acceptable

[@txchainsaw8907]

If you pay for ESO+ then pay for chapters and crown crates on top of that, quit complaining…you’ve already been suckered in and will probably eat these changes too.

[@salinaember9527]

im fine with eso for what it is. no matter what changes they implement or how they go about releasing their content. although, i dont like having to pay for chapter dlcs as theyre too expensive imo. dont know why so many players are losing it. maybe its just me, but i dont need new content to enjoy the game. theres no other game like it.

[@pvansteenlandt4437]

Sounds more like the beginning of the end TBH.

[@joedelao2090]

I'm not really sure. What would Brian Boitano do?🤔

[@SRS-GAMES]

They don't mention a battle pass anywhere. I expect the seasons are going to be pretty much the same as chapters, there will be two per year, each charged like chapters are now.

[@bindair_dundat]

"Smaller bite-sized pieces of content" in "seasons of three-six months duration". That to me screams like less content released over the entire year so you gotta sub all the time to play them.

[@Lupinemancer87]

This actually sounds really exciting and I don't get why people are against this. We don't even know what it entails yet, so can we please withhold judgement until we know more?

[@konkats-tg7pf]

they are so greedy that they are going to sell battle pass for some quests and a costume in dark brotherhood storyline...next year sell pass for some quests and a costume in psijic order storyline...etc. etc. of course all players should be happy...

[@_invinciScribe_24]

People do have a right to be upset though just saying. The battle Pass that was brought up doesn’t sound exciting same for the Overland difficulty. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@gamersmyrf4885]

I'll give it a try. But as soon as i see, you can pay for better rewards in the season. Then, eso will no longer be on my steam account. And never will touch it again.

[@gamersmyrf4885]

And loose over hundreds of dollars on all the expansions over bought.

[@dannyc3954]

Personally I don't care that they changed the update system. We should worry when they stop updating the game at all. I was a red dead online player from beta. And rockstar just abandoned it.

[@RenoRaider19]

As a former Destiny player the word “Season” does make me cringe. That’s why it changed to episodes, but it’s still the same shit.

[@garyjones9944]

Usually my initial response is to be unimpressed, but I gradually warm up to the idea. I am now at the cautiously optimistic level but no heavy price tag please. ESO plus is enough, I live in hope.

[@MoogleMom]

When they went to just one chapter per year Firor again tried to sell us the idea that less content was better. This is more corporate speak of the very same thing. Did we get more with the once a year release change? Nope. I've been with ESO since launch, yep I've done everything. The only new content I get to experience is the new chapters. And when they arrive like many other vets of the game will tell you, I play regularly again, slow down a bit, until the next one. So with less new content coming me and most of the other vets will have less to get hyped about. And with the news of less content, its another middle finger to players who have been here in many cases since the beginning. The players who have been here for years who have done everything and poured the most time and money into this game "f*ck em" is the the attitude we get. The amount of money this game has and continued to make is staggering, there is no excuse for the greed and decision to give players even less new content when it is the new content that brings back the returning players. Less new content, less returning players.

[@theangryimp1345]

You're right

[@cracmar03]

Yep, it seems all what matters is their new shiny not needed MMO. They let ESO starve and run on next to nothing. It's frankly disgusting. I have been playing ESO since November 2018 almost everyday. I needed dlc's and chapters. I don't care much for dungeons or trials but they are okay to others. When they cut down Q4 dlc it was a red flag, but they promised it was 'to fix bugs' well one year passed and next year - no dlc. Now they talk about no chapter. ZOS does only ONE good thing. It's zones. Now we won't even get that. Furthermore they had year since Necrom to Gold Road and Gold Road is just empty. It seriously uses SIDE QUESTS to patch it's main plot runtime. What were they doing for whole year ?? They had a year to iron out Gold Road's quality ! Now they tell me after underdelivering of ONLY content for entire year, that they are too stressed with work and deadlines ?! How. They were doing fine in other years. I want to see their new project burn, at this point. It's clear they do old ArenaNet to GW 2 when publisher wanted ArenaNet to develop new MMO's so GW 2 was running on bare minimum effort of content. Same case with ESO now since someone dumb allowed ZOS to make second MMO. And I hope it burns.

[@BW_90]

So we won’t be getting whiterun or winterhold fpr a long time then

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Looks like it to me 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@ŁukaszŻach-m6y]

Nope for battle pass, not only we'll have to pay for them, they'll be friendly as hell...

[@ronward2693]

The words Battle Pass give me hives. Bordering on neausa.

[@ronward2693]

I was feeling okay about the change until this video. I like buying a whole year's content parse it out how you will. I would like to stay with that. In June, you, buy the next year's content. I am good with that. I see benefits in dropping the hard due date for every department. However, I am having a very bad reaction to the words Battle Pass.

[@LBCreateSpace]

Also this has nothing to do with the season pass thing, but I’ve been following you for a while and noticed your stuff keeps getting better and better. Keep doing what you do because lawd knows it’s the only way we can understand what is going on 😂

[@Rastamunfarion]

Sorry but disagree with your options on the poll. They need too prioritize fixing the bugs and imbalances in this 10yr old game before ANYTHING NEW.

[@Official_JakeClips]

Did you want a none option 😅

[@Rastamunfarion]

@Official_JakeClips hahahaha sure , i just think there many issues that should be addressed that have not even been looked at by devs for years that should take place before they add more things too upset the already imbalanced game

[@Rastamunfarion]

Like why cant or havent they made theyre own poll or post too ask the general player base what we would like too see done or prioritized in the coming months or years? Like do they care about the opinions of the players or just there own echo chamber

[@Official_JakeClips]

@ they did do two surveys

[@Rastamunfarion]

@@Official_JakeClips really where?

[@Lostwalker-px8xh]

I think the big question is how do they plan to make their money now? If they are not selling the players that shiny new chapter each year, how are they going to sell "seasons"? IMO, the last three chapters haven't been worth buying on release date. How and/or how much, are they planning to charge for mostlikely even less content? I don't pay new chapter costs for new chapters, why would I pay anything for small seasonal patches?

[@CORNISHDUDE]

Luring whales back 4 times a year is op

[@conancimmerian5066]

Let's just call this Maintenance Mode.

[@TheOfficialPatriarchy]

I feel like "seasons" are just a way to increase the turnover rate on the product while requiring lower effort. It really depends on if they are approaching the process in good faith toward the players or if it is economically motivated. Also, I cannot stand battle passes and the like so if they ever introduce "gone forever" FOMO stuff I would quit the game and never come back, because I absolutely will not be blackmailed into spending money.

[@salinaember9527]

modern gaming is all optional cosmetics, so fomo is not a deal breaker for me. it's all virtual nonsense. what i do care about is a reason to play eso, when i have tons of other options that fight for my attention. whatever gets people to play makes me happy. or else the game will die.

[@TheOfficialPatriarchy]

@@salinaember9527 It's not about the nature of the items being retired, it's about the anti-consumer mentality of doing so. This stuff is digital and infinitely replicable yet the broader industry never fails to find a way to greedy and stingy. In fairness to ZOS, they have done a number of fantastic pro-consumer things like endeavor seals, which is why I am skeptical they may implement "gone forever" content, but I was merely responding to what was said in the video.

[@salinaember9527]

@@TheOfficialPatriarchy true but on the corporate side, they are a business, so with that comes monitoring the market. almost every other game has some sort of exclusive limited time content. but i trust zos will only halfway copy the trend and come up with something original.

[@TheOfficialPatriarchy]

@@salinaember9527 "Everyone else is doing it" is how the gaming industry has taken a turn for the worse. Mind you, my perspective comes from being older so I remember the pre-internet era of gaming, when games were released completed and without bugs, dlc's, battlepasses, lootboxes, etc. because you could not patch stuff in or buy online. I am tremendously grateful for the internet because I could not play games like ESO without it, but I also recognize it brought a boatload of problems to the industry.

[@TheOfficialPatriarchy]

​@@salinaember9527 "Everyone else is doing it" is how the gaming industry has gotten worse. Mind you, I'm older and remember pre-internet gaming, when games released completed and without bugs, dlc's, battlepasses, lootboxes, etc. because you couldn't patch stuff or buy online. I am grateful for the net because I couldn't play games like ESO without it, but also recognize it made a lot of problems in the industry.

[@moonhaewon6689]

if its season pass or battle pass it should be given to you for "free" as a eso+ subscriber and battlepasses should be able to be complete ay any time even 10 years from now being able to complete year 1 battle pass would be good imo.

[@tinawalder]

I am still confused, but i would like to see Cyradil change.

[@derrickmehok9465]

If they add a battlepass better get rid of eso plus(make it and everything it entails standard) or make the bp free.

[@grantkohler7612]

It is a wait and see for me. This could be great for all involved, or this could be just a load of horker loaf to try to increase overall sales while eliminating the pressure of providing meaningful content. I hope I'm wrong but we shall see in 2027 when Seasons are beyond the proving ground stage.

[@Agumon5]

I would be somewhat open to this, but I will admit I'm extremely apprehensive. I do not trust this company enough to not screw this up. I would hope that they take into consideration The worries of the community. We don't want to see another destiny 2 scenario. And we don't want fallout 76. One of the reasons why I play ESO is because I feel like I can always go back to it if I miss something. I never feel like I have a massive amount of FOMO playing this game. If they're going to end up making this worse, then I rather just play another MMO like guild wars 2 or FFXIV.

[@PatrickManevski]

Shake up is good, as long as the content volume doesnt decrease as seasons are implemented. if 3 seasons = chapter price, and we still get the high quality systems (classes, scibing etc) then its fine . Game needs a change - seasons are cool. Would be really cool if they did season related artifact, similiar to destiny. Make certain builds work + unique but also viable in endgame. As you said jake - just needs to be executed well, Having a certain zone/area focussed would be sweert as you would have everyone in that zone chilling, wheras chapter zones die after a month lol

[@PatrickManevski]

just to add - inorder for the game to suceed + actually get quality, seasons will need to be paid, Otherwise seaons will just be a exit for ESO dev team as they ride the game out

[@robgreen4521]

I almost had my drink come out of my nose when you said, "One of my friends, we'll call him Chris, because his name is Chris."

[@fil-amphilippines5157]

Season pass for sure 😂😂😂 more money for them vs chapters and it will render ESO plus useless outside of craftbag and bonus XP they gonna farm the money off players 😂😂😂

[@theangryimp1345]

Chapters are tried and true. People like them. Sessions are trash and hated. Sessions will lose players. That's it. Its that simple.

[@gamersmyrf4885]

Thats who halo rebranded

[@meesimma]

As long as they don't implement a new structure centered around abusing FOMO tactics, and keep it so returning players can do everything in their own sweet time, it should be okay. Games are a fun hobby, not a second job. But who can trust a developer to do that these days? Stay tuned until the new financial year for details, oh what a coincidence that fills me with no hope.

[@Top-Lip]

With a separation of PvP and PvE, there's extra wiggle room now for the devs to move away from the traditional class system and expand scribing into something deeper and more meaningful than just supplementary skills. It would be really nice if instead of new traditional classes, we get new useful skill lines based on the theme of the season, that have deeper interaction with scribing, and maybe even further down the line, the ability to upgrade some existing class skills into customizable skills and break away from the morph system, as this seems like the natural evolution of buildcrafting. It would help diversify the builds a bit more, so people aren't always running the same skills. It would also help mitigate the content void, inbetween seasons. Rather than waiting 2 years for a new class, and then only making one alt because it's arbitrary just because new content is locked behind new game, its better to allow more freeform customisation and shake up the gameplay, in such a way that all characters can engage with new content more frequently so the gameplay feels like its changing up. If a new season is about vampires, for example there could be an expansion of the vampire skill line to make it more useful/viable, and people can customise how they play their vampire with scribing if they wish to do so. This means, people have more of an incentive to make alts that are of a certain theme. It gives players more new things to do, that synchronize well with the new content, rather than just repeating old content.

[@twenty-four777]

Screw eso

[@natejohnson4371]

I certainly won’t BUY a season pass while I’m already paying for eso+

[@JAAPJXBIT]

I play tons of D2. Imho the best engine and graphics ive played in a mmo in a long time. However, the seasonal conditions and finite timelines to get stuff (especially the cool stuff) are an unnecessary deadline. I don’t understand why can’t they just allow people to get stuff later on. I have a life, a job, a relationship and a family. Keeping up with content just to have it removed down the road and be inaccessible is a friggin crime. It turned me off from D2 quite a bit and I stopped giving af about the game lately. I just hope on to do easy content once in a while and get off since looking at all the stuff ill never get just demotivates the hell out of me. I hope we don’t lose ESO to a seasonal scheme cuz ZOS wants a few more bucks.

[@ortacreef8557]

The current average player count is the lowest since February 2018. I suggest they are trying to find ways to stop the rot, and/or boost revenue.

[@Akrotiriken]

I'd rather zos switch to chapters every other year allowing for better quality more in depth content. In the off year zos could do smaller content like Murkmire or Hews Bane. Plus the ideas they have expressed. Not a pvper but zos could use the off year chapter downtime to work on pvp.

[@brandonamsler9898]

While we are on the topic of cosmetics. How about they give us styles and looks we actually want. The 20+ face and body markings that look like someone was drunk with a permanent marker while someone was sleeping has to go!!!

[@CareBearStare]

Hopefully seasons arent just another way to push out overpriced cosmetics. Sadly people are still going to buy them if that be the case .

[@_invinciScribe_24]

I swear if they add a Paid Battle Pass. That is just so greedy i’m actually really worried about it. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@themcstreetz316]

I want PVP lag fixes, overland difficulty upped and the seasonal content more frequently. The chapter we're so underwhelming when new features weren't added. The overland quests are a waste of time and add nothing of tangible value. They're so easy that they completely undermine any attempt to tell an immersive story. Also quit wasting resources on useless things like Tale of Tribute. Complete waste of dev time when there are so many other issues to fix

[@chrizlo7246]

The facts are ESO is old, player base is falling and it's just another game in a massive sea of other games. At this time, throwing more and more money at it doesnt make sense from a business standpoint. We can't make a judgment until we see what actually happens in 2025. Personally, I am worried after seeing other live servishish games change their plans as their player base/profits fall...cough, cough...Destiny 2.

[@fictitiousnightmares]

What this means is more profit for the corporation and more money out of your pocket. 7:00 LOL, they are NOT trying to increase communication. smh They are trying to increase profits. Mark my words. This is a corporation published by a giant corporation, who's one and only goal is more money/profits. They will not make any major decision/change that does not increase those profits. Period.

[@krisconklin8015]

There just money grabing

[@zombiejesus7445]

ZoS could have made this a lot smoother... Just said "chapters will be smaller. And now they are $20-30". Easy

[@individual116]

They are absolutely not going to lower the price

[@zombiejesus7445]

@individual116 no way in fuck that they will sell $60 "worth" of battle passes

[@bindair_dundat]

I already disliked their idea to ditch the Q4 story/zone content for some QoL changes. Made both Necrom and Gold Roads feel like half stories stretched over two years. In my eyes, they've already robbed us of two Q4 zones we could have explored, siimilar to Southern Elsweyr, the Reach, Deadlands, and Galen in favour of giving us barely anything else. This new plan goes even further in that direction by drip-feeding us "bite-sized" content in 3-6 months seasons. Either they are cutting costs or no longer care about player satisfaction. In any case I do not condone such behaviour. Once my yearly subscription expires I will not be renewing it.

[@joesmith7731]

Battle pass will lose players. Keep chapter drops

[@jonicoe113]

Ahoy hoy

[@haviksan]

😂 good nord joke

[@Trojance]

The ESO 10th anniversary jubilee Amsterdam event was in April 2024, which directly coincides with the influx of players on the steam charts. I'm disappointed you couldn't figure that out.

[@Official_JakeClips]

Which I couldn’t even login for! Joking aside there’s event every month though what makes jubilee special for that much of an increase

[@sugmadic]

He try to be optimistic and try protect his bosses somehow 😂

[@charliecutmore199]

All eso needs is better pvp and guild wars , and over world hard mode , more skill scribing for every skill with new animations

[@BBRocker75]

We WARNING YOU ZOS: If you introduce PAID Battle Pass You will kill TESO. It is ez. We love ESO but WE LOVE MORE OUR POCKETS.

[@mikelsweeten6465]

Can anyone name an example of a game releasing lesser content and the game improved? I mean we heard this same stuff when they axed they Q4 DLC content and the game population has dwindled ever since. Not to be negative, I am not quitting. Just wondering how doing the same thing, only on a much larger scale would lead me to believe the results will be anything other than more people leaving the game.

[@Official_JakeClips]

@@mikelsweeten6465 RuneScape, swtor, wizard 101, came to my mind but I think it will depend greatly on what they do next

[@KingDomfaithlifecoaching]

No freaking Battlepasses! You cannot force people to buy ESO+

[@leatherDarkhorse]

Nah im not going to glazing for battle pass, its fomo bs.

[@thefatcatneverdies]

No time limits is best

[@michaelandrade1611]

If they do what they are doing witht eh golden pursuits i wont be mad but if after i start getting into a eso to get away from a battle pass and theyy put one in umma be mad aint gonna lie like i have and pay for + already and happily do so id just be do heated if they do the battlepas modle and ik godwn pursuits r similar but the fucking fomo is for real

[@karensweetland628]

If they only focus on pvp they will loose huge amount of money because pvers enjoy DLC and pvper enjoy the fights myself I love both I'll pvp then work on questing to housing. But to take away one part of the game will make people leave