Esoteric Geography of London with James Tunney

[@cuttheknot4781]

James Tunney is one of the singular most interesting people on this program in my opinion. He is an empathic intellectual with many layers. You can tell how much he embodies his thoughts as he speaks.

[@cattenborrow]

Loved this one. I've nearly listened to all the James Tunney conversations now after discovering the channel recently.

[@cosmicdustparticle7481]

You are both in rare form here! It's easy to see that you were both completely engaged in this conversation. Your interviews are always interesting, but this was something special. Thank you both!

[@maherprobasket5864]

Powerful guy's thanks to you both, yes, the best interview yet, as an Irishman James is top notch.

[@onthedesertshore]

As a Londoner who’s intimately familiar with the places that are mentioned here and also a big fan of this channel, this is such a treat. Thank you Mr Mishove and Mr Tunney!

[@Unlucky-Dube]

I find it difficult to not see or feel enchantment in nature, and as someone who's father came from London, when I visited at age 13 it was hard not to feel history, wherever you step a great many people have stepped and will step and somehow it can be felt.

[@susanwoodward7485]

Fascinating guided travel through London with a whole new perspective. Mr. Tunney is a born storyteller.

[@annahaegeman8418]

Thank you both for this interesting walk, and especcially for this visionary end of this story telling :)

[@floydwilkes9904]

Sublime. Superb. Extraordinary. Magnificent. Gracias, a thousand times, gracias, and kudos to both of you James and Jeff. La via real del Rey. The Fleet!! Can’t wait to read! A thousand more gracias.

[@olivialuke6824]

So interesting!!! ❤️💜💚 Thank you both!

[@mazyar_]

What mystico-historico-magico-psycho-geograpical tour de force alone one of London's lost rivers. Thank you James and Jeffrey.

[@peterseamusgunn9295]

I am watching from the once St Bride influenced Outer Hebrides where I live, a place of sacred wells, stone monuments, lochs and rivers. This story brings to life the Goddess' sacred well in London through a journey through history and geography and the pyscho-spiritual resonance of the River Fleet. Fascinating. Opens up the mind to look at landscapes and history in ways that reveal new possibilities.

[@Gr3g3r9]

Listening to this I feel blessed that the art of conversation still lives. I'm reminded of the film "My dinner with André". I'm also bothe surprised and excited to be a fellow citizen of THE city of Gothenburg. James Tunney, what an interesting man! Let's have a pint someday. When I'm listening to him I can't help thinking of the Jungian renagade James Hillman. The same extraordinarily capacity to synthesise information from seemingly disparate avenues. It would be really interesting to hear what you two had to say about Hillman. To me he's one of the greatest thinkers of the last century.

[@annahaegeman8418]

Wonderful Irish story - teller !!!....Always the attempt to destroi the Goddess. May this newborn Consciousness Goddess rise and bloom !! :)

[@fadista7063]

I really love the shows with Mr. Tunney. Fascinating history and paranormal information.

[@oona1039]

I loved this talk, absolutely fascinating. I now want to go on the walking tour of the book with James as my guide!

[@JC-qs4gz]

Great storytelling. Amazing how the journey started in bright and creative Hampstead and ended in the darker history of the city.

[@501promo]

@Jeffrey - A welcome distraction from my studies sir. You've certainly done well with the James Tunney content that you saved for our rainy days. Much obliged. Hope all is well with yourself and everyone close to you in your life my friend. Have a quality day.

[@GMan12321]

Super fascinating!!

[@tacmason]

This is a series of correlations i have been looking for. I am very grateful to you both for making these connections . this may be Mr Tunney's most important interview yet .

[@sunnirhiona2563]

OH, JAMES! You define what is indefinable.

[@SW-wf3gy]

Fascinating

[@dcoates4]

Thank you for this fascinating conversation. What a blessing.

[@drscrib99]

What a wonderful journey. Thank you.

[@ticketyboo7255]

The gentleman is right. And then enter John Dee and Enochian magic. Its all about places of power and the chequer board to this very day. Excellent interview. Thank you as always! ☺️👍❤️

[@francescamilanoellis6822]

I thought it was amazing. Took my mind far away to the past......stories and storytelling of the highest form. Thankyou . Francesca.❤️

[@brendancoburn427]

The River Fleet did not flow through the old walled City of London but beside it. It was incorporated into jurisdiction of the City as it expanded to become 'the square mile' as it is now known colloquially. The river Walbrook is the river that flows through the middle of the old walled City. A lot of the history and people mentioned by James would have had more in common with the Walbrook, and also the rivers Westbourne and Tyburn, both of which have their source in Hampstead, along with the Fleet. Being a 'Dub', like James [he'll know what I mean] who has lived in London for the best part of 40 years, I had to get that in ! Well done both of you, plenty more please!

[@anonb4632]

I have to admit Tyburn had a very bad vibe to it the last time I was there. I wondered if I was being unconsciously racist to the many Arabs I saw round there (often outside with hookahs, which is quite cool even for a non-smoker like me), but I was reminded by a friend that Tyburn was well known as an execution site. I had forgotten that, and I think that was probably what I had *really* picked up on.

[@anonb4632]

p.s. He should do one about Dublin too. A lot of esoteric history there, which you will know much better than me - from the fact Dublin and Baile Atha Cliath were separate locations, the strangely named Ireland's Eye, Phoenix Park (which is just weird) etc etc. Kilmainham Jail is one of the most atmospheric places I've been.

[@lindamaxie]

This was well worth listening to.

[@nigelericogden3200]

Thank you guys, very interesting. I lived in North London for much of my life. I lived in Highgate and worked in Hampstead for a time. I’ve always been fascinated by the hidden Fleet. I’m sure that the other rivers of London also have fascinating ancient connections. Namaste Gentlemen 🙏

[@greenleaf365]

What a storyteller! I was on the edge of my seat. We should keep in mind ley lines and vortices for these highly energetic spots, such as where Jerusalem is built, where there is major creativity and historic events.

[@mikefenner5889]

I have ordered Blue Lies September on the strength of this fascinating interview. Another writer who appears to be exploring the esoteric side of geography is Ben Aaronovich in his witty take on the idea of river Goddesses and the fae existing in present day London in the context of the crime novel. Well worth a investigating! I look forward to reading James Tunney's book.

[@_ARCATEC_]

Really enjoyed this🤠

[@amandayorke481]

Underground Goddess - Exactly!

[@anonb4632]

The Swedenborg Society and Quaker Central are also near Bloomsbury. One thing I noticed about Central London is the celebration of war everywhere. I prefer to visit places outwith the centre now, because the centre is noisy, busy and dirty. Greenwich has interesting associations (the line, navy etc), Hampstead and Highgate certainly do.

[@amandayorke481]

James's talk is so beautiful I want to keep at its poignancy!

[@amandayorke481]

WEEP not keep! Darn autocorrect!!@

[@LindsayButler]

Great stuff again!!!!!

[@starseed168]

42:31 - Understatement of the year: "And that's about all I'll say on this, 'cos we might be here...too long."

[@Summer-ti2wq]

Captivating. I thought the Fleet had associations with the River Styx and the Underworld too.

[@sheilaeisele8490]

Listening during the lockdown made this even more delightful--walking out with James Tunney and Jeffrey Mishlove---couldn't be better! Wonderful re-cognizance.

[@manuelalayo511]

I was also in England in 1977. I didn't care much about Elvis' death. I was into the Sex Pistols and the Strangers. Great talk!!! Thank you Mr Tunney and Mr. Mishlove.

[@cory8760]

Great video! Fleet street made me think of Sweeney Todd for some reason

[@intelkore]

Hints of Sean Connery :) Interesting interview, another great show!

[@Flanalb9]

I enjoyed your poetic walk along the Fleet. Once again, you have induced me to buy the book. Now that I've read part of the first chapter, I have a better idea of the significance of the historical associations you described. I'm not sure I would have been able to comprehend the written description without having heard the verbal one. (Perhaps this experience will make it possible for me to get beyond the first page of Joyce's Ulysses.)

[@EarInn]

Now I'd like to hear more about the divine feminine and our world's attempt to hide it. I enjoyed all of your sessions with Mr. Tunney.

[@LeeGee]

In Hebrew, the Name is gender neutral but is often read as female. In everyday Judaism, Shekinah is female, and in mystical Judaism, at least half the Sephirot of the Kabbalah are feminine. IMO, some transistors of Hebrew did a lot of damage ignoring this. Just a start but I hope it helps.

[@GildaLee27]

Another, current, revolutionary thinker lives on Hampstead Heath: Rupert Sheldrake. On a completely unrelated note, no, Anne Boleyn did not have six fingers. Her skeleton was found in the church of St Peter ad Vincula and the hands were normal. This is a fascinating conversation. Tunney is a marvelous guest and I hope he'll be back for more interviews.

[@anonb4632]

There are tonnes of Bohemians who have lived on or near Hampstead Heath - Sigmund Freud, Leonard Cohen to name but two, and many others

[@LeeGee]

Trivia brought to mind by this excellent talk: certainly sparked me, thank you The Thames is locally known as the Isis. No idea why. The Fleet also hosts St Pancras Old Church, one of Britain's first places of Christian worship, unusually named after the Roman martyr. Only in the 1800s was it renamed to Kings Cross (after a statue!) The Fleet also had the site where Boudicca allegedly fought-off the Roman army. The Fleet originates/rises in both Highgate and Hampstead, two of the highest hills in London (and two of the most expensive towns in London!). Once famous locally for its prostitutes. Merlin's cave is generally said to be in Tintagel. north Cornwall. I love the speaker but he had the etymology of 'fleet' backwards: the root is generally said to be the PIE *pleud, from which the Saxon fliotan, from which float and fleet. The river Fleet was had vast docks at what is now Holborn (formerly Oldbourne, ie Old Bourne, ie old small river) Let's not forget The Templers vowed to rule Jerusalem for Christians, and killed many thousands of Jewish and Muslim people alike. Blackfriars Bridge is locally said to be where the Freemasons would hang people to drown in the rising tide. As our guest days, it's also where the Vatican's banker was hanged by the Italian Mafia. The Bridewell church discussed is by Christopher Wren. It's about the seventh church on the site, the original was on the 600s, said to mirror a church in Kildare, Ireland.

[@anonb4632]

The Thames is known as the Isis up in Oxford. Not in London itself AFAIK. Traditionally a lot of rivers had different names for different stretches. Nowadays we take it for granted that rivers have one name - something like the Nile must have had many names.

[@anonb4632]

I always saw the Fleet as taking its name from the same root as "flood". A lot of these rivers (Thames included) were once sluggish and windy, until they were "improved", dredged etc. The Fleet probably burst its banks on a regular basis and lazily spilt its waters into the surrounding marshes.

[@seratonyn]

Smart af.

[@KingOfAllBlunders]

Are there any courses to get an Irish accent? I know it would improve my storytelling 10 fold. Great show Jeffery and James

[@thomas5714]

There are three "City States" - each has an obelisk in its "square" - each a center of power and control they are: City of London (Finacial), Vatican City (Religion) and Washington DC (Military). [Note: DC was named 'Rome' before it was renamed and it sits between the States of MARYland and VIRGINia.]

[@vinny5638]

Pretty interesting

[@anonb4632]

These aren't the only cities with obelisks.

[@annahaegeman8418]

Magnificant story ! My question is " how can we " un - dirt " the river / Sacred Well ? From qauntum perspective ( probably ) ?

[@wanderingthepeaks]

Jeffrey ... Speaking of Eckhart Tolle, how about an interview with him?

[@brethitchcock5885]

Never leave enough comments so leaving one before watching. Thank you

[@sawtoothiandi]

would it be fair to say joyce's ulysses was psycho-geographical?

[@anonb4632]

I think it is very much. And Tunney is probably well aware of that. Finnegans Wake has a lot more in it but is practically unreadable

[@Chicken_Little_Syndrome]

@28:55 James Turnney makes a mistake. The Lord Mayor of the City of London must bend a knee to the Queen. She is the Crown. "It is sometimes asserted that the Lord Mayor may exclude the monarch from the City of London. The legend is based on the misinterpretation of the ceremony observed each time the sovereign enters the City: at Temple Bar the Lord Mayor presents the City's Pearl Sword to the sovereign as a symbol of the latter's overlordship. The monarch does not, as is often purported, wait for the Lord Mayor's permission to enter the City. When the sovereign enters the city, a short ceremony usually takes place where the Lord Mayor symbolically surrenders his or her authority to the monarch by presenting the sword to them. If the sovereign is attending a service at St Paul's this ceremony would take place there rather than at the boundary of the City for matters of convenience." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Mayor_of_London#Rights_and_privileges

[@Chicken_Little_Syndrome]

"The Lord Mayor advanced and surrendered it to the Queen by presenting the hilt which she touched. Both the sword and the mace were then raised. Michael Oliver, the 674th Lord Mayor of the City of London, then welcomed her to the City before leading the sovereign's procession to St Paul's, where, bareheaded, he preceded the Queen up the steps to the West Door bearing the sword aloft. When the Queen was seated, the sword was placed by the Lord Mayor on a cushion on a table in front of her with the hilt to her right hand. Seven new fanfares, composed for the occasion by Elgar Howard, accompanied the ceremonial procession through the City. The works were based on the themes of traditional" www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1396320/Pearl-Sword-opens-City-to-sovereign.html

[@h.bsfaithfulservant4136]

Point taken...but in general, I'd be much more inclined to believe Mr Tunney over Wikipedia.

[@amandayorke481]

When things are repressed they have a dangerous power

[@jimmywormholes2053]

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