The Patriots RUINED Mac Jones! 😦 - Dan Orlovsky's reaction to the Jaguars trade | Get Up

[@odigomez1787]

Woody was preaching. Coaching is not about finding the right QB for your system, coaching is developing your system to the players you have. This is why so many QBs are thrown away.

[@hotohori69]

The problem is most professional coaches are stubborn control freaks with giant egos. They are convinced their system is the best and no one can convince them otherwise. They look at capitulating to a player and adjusting as weakness. Its why all the old college coaches are quitting cause they can't handle the players having any power at all with them transferring if the coach they are playing for doesn't work for them.

[@Bman32x]

And people wonder why so many teams can’t do it right or win year after year.

[@199019852007]

Like Christmas toys

[@HuChing-ob4kk]

WRONG!! Actually its about finding the right QB for what you run as QB because coaches have SYSTEMS they know inside out. You ONLY adjust your system when you have a great like Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning , Drew Brees, etc...do you think someone wouldve sdjusted their system for Patrick Mahommes>!> He wouldve been out of th eleague Andy Reed drafted him BECAUSE his skillset fit his SYTEM The ONLY people who say this BS are the ones who are mad that the QB they rooted for SUCKS

[@usopenitentiary]

@@HuChing-ob4kkthis

[@Gifted_Since1981]

Greeny at the age where he nicely telling MFs off😂😂😂

[@ChristianStrawser-xv7rv]

Greeny is weird

[@deepaknambisan3251]

@@ChristianStrawser-xv7rvVERY weird

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“Trey Lance has the best record !!!”😂😂

[@edwardmccullough7056]

Patriots fan here been watching 30 + years . They for sure ruined Jones

[@herrguru4264]

Mac Jones wasnt ruined. He was just garbage. He sucks. End of story. - He is another QB with zero talent who should have been drafted in 7th round (if he`s lucky). - He can hardly throw. - If he throws, he can only throw fewer than 30 yards. - Above 30 yards his completions are 48% on target. - he cant read defense. - he`s not mobile. - he cant even game manage his way out of a wet paper bag. - The only thing he can do is kicking linebackers in the nuts.

[@DMKFACTOR]

@@herrguru4264Spoken like a fool that has less years on planet earth than guys like us have years of watching football! Yes you know more than guys who get paid MILLIONS to evaluate QBs for a living! Talk about the heights of narcism and a LOW IQ!

[@ald7248]

Yeah, I'm sure his poor attitude, lack of mobility, suspect arm talent, and lousy accuracy & judgement had *nothing* to with his failure.

[@DMKFACTOR]

@@ald7248 Trolling much lately? How many more of my comments are you going to comment on? Still waiting for responses on the other questions posed to you!

[@DMKFACTOR]

@@ald7248 What’s your IQ simp? Equivalent to your age? Which can’t be more than 10, right troll?

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“if i get a injured O Lineman imma call Dan O how much he protects the QBs!!!” - Stephan A

[@chanorando]

I'm way late to this party, but thank you Dan Orlovsky! You're dead on about Mac Jones! At the very least, he was ruined by mishandling, and at most, potentially ruined purposely by a vindictive HC. IMO, Belichick is a hypocrite. Belichick expects EVERYONE ELSE to be accountable and team driven so, WHY ISN'T HE??!! I put the blame squarely on COACHING for the decline of Mac. Let's not forget Mac's success the first season: Made Playoffs @ 10-7 and pro-bowl alternate: That doesn't happen by accident in the NFL! Next season he loses a great OC, replaced by a couple meathead yes men, with NO Offensive credibility!... Couple that with head scratching uncomplimentary offensive schemes and gameplans. Add the HC undermining Mac's confidence by benching him after ONE interception in a game! W*F!! What other coach would bench the starter after ONE interception early in a game??!! Answer: NONE!! 3rd year under "sink or swim" duress with another questionable meathead OC, more inexplicable schemes/gameplans, and an uncommunicative dis-engaged HC!! Recipe for failure ONLY! Was Mac Jones at all responsible for his decline? The answer is: MINIMALLY! Yes, he is high strung and impatient. Yes, he lost the team by calling out teammates for perceived failures. Yes he was guilty of being a young immature player who was understandably frustrated in dealing with an UNTENABLE situation!! I wish the best of success to Mac and my personal apology. I am embarrassed by what my team did to him. He should have had a 4th Pats year with a legit chance to thrive… It's pretty clear now that Belichick is a brilliant Narcissist. He's the best defensive mind the game has ever seen, but he has NO respect for offense and offensive players, and NO respect for the Owner that employs him. He has repeatedly undermined what was best for the team while claiming otherwise. Sitting Malcolm Butler in SB 52 threw ALL Players under the Bus! How was that best for the TEAM! It's the HC duty to CREATE an atmosphere of success for the chosen QB! Ruining the starting QB consciously or unconsciously because he wasn't "your guy" is Textbook NARCISSISM! Belichick may have cut his football teeth under Navy Athletics, and he may THINK he runs a team modeled on the military way, but he FORGOT that EVERY serviceman swears an oath and is accountable to a higher authority. The Admiral or General, may not agree with or even respect The President, but it's their duty to their country to follow his orders and to NEVER undermine the MEN under their command. Belichick should never again be trusted with the HC position. He's borderline megalomaniacal, and a cancer in any position of authority. I would hire him as a DC with very minimal authority only. IMO, players were willing to endure the "Belichick Way" because TB12 ensured a legitimate SB shot year after year. Yes the defenses were equally important to the repeated success, but The GOAT was the GLUE that held it all together. When the glue dissolved, it unsurprisingly fell apart.

[@renewd]

Damian Woody raises a great point about coaches not adapting.

[@direden]

1000% Agree! Coaching is about developing players and building a system that makes the best of their skills. Tim Tebow won playoff games... and Cam Newton won an MVP. That shows you... QBs like Fields can win with the right system.

[@richardprescott5939]

He can win with the right teammates (maybe.) The system is doesn't matter unless the QB can't make all the throws. Fields can, but can he run the offense. Don't know yet. Was it his teammates or him?

[@MrSundaynighttt]

Media: "Belichick is one of the greatest coaches ever!" Also Media:"The patriots(Lead by Belichick) RUINED Mac jones!!

[@neromusic138]

Actually most media has been coming to terms with the fact that Brady made Belichick and he’s severely overrated and I’m a patriots fan myself

[@Smallerexia]

Two things can be true

[@Adila10]

Most media also acknowledge Belichick more for his defense than his offense.

[@elizabethgodfrey1033]

Brady didn’t make Belichick. Belichick already has 8 Super Bowls. Brady & the Players made the Patriots. Brady is a nobody without Bill B & The majority Black players.

[@Cmelo7100]

@@neromusic138you can’t say bill is overrated at all. If bill isn’t there they don’t win all those SB’s and that’s a fact.

[@Willworld.]

Jones should’ve never been drafted so high.. he was good in college but if u watched his games u knew it would be hard for him to translate to the nfl

[@Tbaby216]

I think Mac jones got a bad hand playing with Bill

[@AaronLewis06]

Should've never! These so called analysts is the cause of that bcuz he was a 2nd/3rd rounder at best

[@skyline128]

can he throw the ball or not. @@Tbaby216

[@JJ_5289]

He should have been a 3rd or 4th round. He has very limited talent. Cant move in the pocket. Cant throw deep. Even during his rookie year he was terrible against a strong pass rush, and he never improved

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@JJ_5289 🤡🤡🤡

[@Scott_Dunbar_II]

His regression is the result of many factors. Some are his own fault, but most lie on his coaching and the organization. It's just insane how widely disrespected he is. Over the last 2 seasons, I've seen about 8 games where Mac played good enough to win, but because of some VERY tough breaks and bad luck, they were lost, but people would only blame him because it was the easy thing to do. I wish him the best of luck, and the Pats are playing the Jags this season, so that will be fun. Edit: My point of Mac being disrespected is being proven tenfold in the replies, I guess I'm right.

[@shipitplease99999]

He has the mobility of a high school student and an arm of a college student

[@shipitplease99999]

Don’t get me started on iq and awareness

[@HuChing-ob4kk]

he didnt regress he just CANNOT PLAY...his rookie year defenses didnt know what to expect..he has ZERO physcial talent (arm, legs, etc) he is pretty DUMB as a QB because at Alabama all he had to do was run what Saban called with TONS of talent around him

[@AaronLewis06]

​@@HuChing-ob4kksounds like you watched more than just 8 games 😂😂😂😂 nothing but facts

[@blondegirlsezthis8798]

Shoulda grabbed Marvin Harrison and gave Jones what made him great in Alabama. Instead we wasted two years and gave him no weapons and then ditch him. SLOW CLAP KRAFT

[@cdmphy]

We what? We gave him everything! We gave him receivers that were could compete with Waldo when it came to being found. We gave him a swiss-cheese OL. We gave him a special teams QB coach and DC offensive coordinator. What more could the kid want?

[@satmoore3381]

HAHAH Waldo lol. Tell it like it is my guy! So sad truthfully tbh...

[@Willworld.]

I still don’t think jones is good but it’s wild how belichick thought it was a bright idea to have a special teams coach a DC as the O coordinator!! Belichick lost his mind after Brady left

[@mike02454]

@@Willworld. Bill bought into the hype around him as a coach.. he thought he could coach anyone to do anything, and that talent didn't matter. He was wrong.

[@VW20-bq9in]

Facts.

[@herrguru4264]

Mac Jones wasnt ruined. He was just garbage. He sucks. End of story. - He is another QB with zero talent who should have been drafted in 7th round (if he`s lucky). - He can hardly throw. - If he throws, he can only throw fewer than 30 yards. - Above 30 yards his completions are 48% on target. - he cant read defense. - he`s not mobile. - he cant even game manage his way out of a wet paper bag. - The only thing he can do is kicking linebackers in the nuts. - His OC wanted to give him an opportunity to sit behind Cam Newton for 1-2 years, until Cam Newton started getting an attitude towards Cam.

[@jaythevibe7130]

The 2020 draft should be the standard for qbs on how to develop

[@scruffd0g193]

Yeah, Tua is about to get a long term deal and Love will get his soon.

[@KRITORISS]

LMAOOOOO Tua overrated, Burrow ALWAYS hurt, Herbert trash......Love is above average.......

[@og_wan]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@KRITORISSnone of that has anything to do with development lol…Dolphins drafted his college receiver who he has chemistry with and they traded for the best receiver in football in Tyreek Hill. The only question mark with Miami is the O-line. Cincinnati went and got Chase, who also was Borrow’s favorite target in college when every one said they should’ve used that pick on the O-line. But they went out of ordinary and drafted a player specifically for Burrow. Love was a top 12 QB last year working with slightly above average receivers. Like the original comment said, draft of 2020 actually brought in talent around the QB to maximize their abilities minus or in Love’s case, sit behind and learn behind a Hall of Fame QB for three years.

[@josephclum7614]

Trey Lance has the best record 🤣🤣🤣 at 2-2

[@nhd6128]

Perfect time to remind everyone that Dan O was 3-23 as an NFL starter & the main QB of a 0-16 Lions team and a 1-15 Colts team. How he is on ESPN spewing nonsense when he hasn't had a hot take in his 5 years on the network is truly baffling.....

[@tomc5435]

I'll take his opinions over yours any day.

[@dantheman8152]

He made it to the league. What have you done to have an respected opinion on pro football. Thats the problem with fans. You dont understand that a guy who was a "scrub" in the NFL is still an elite level athlete.

[@AJPehowski]

He may not have been the best PLAYER but he played the game and is better analyst of the game than being IN the game.

[@AaronLewis06]

😂😂😂😂😂💀

[@markbartoszek8585]

He likes to defend scrubs because he himself was one.

[@markgraves2192]

He didn't lie.... I mean they did!! I always thought Mac could play was just in a bad situation! 💯

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

what games were you watching?? That guy SUCKS beyond comprehension

[@Benjamin-fc9ww]

NFL GMs are crazy bro lol

[@dredagr848]

Preach Woody!!

[@juanmikel7507]

Why didn’t they also compare passing yards for Lamar and Fields? 🤣

[@edwincrawford5619]

He threw 1.1k more yrds, bout 20 more tds and 2 less ints went crazy weapons love lamar but imo you can fasho see what justin can be with progression and weapons imo

[@juanmikel7507]

@@edwincrawford5619 I get that but Orlovski is talking about numbers don’t lie when he purposefully leaves important ones out 🤣

[@MegaGuapo97]

@@juanmikel7507 The "passing yards" you included are also the result of YAK; if I throw the ball 4 yards for a 40 yard gain, that's in the 1.1K additional yards. QBR is a better metric: Lamar 64.7, Fields 46.1. Lamar was better, but also had WAY better coaching/played for a great organization. The Bears are simply stupid.

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

Pat's didn't ruin Mac. They just stifled him. Mac will be fine in the right scheme.

[@ViktorVonDoom723]

Greene is so right!

[@owensnyder1292]

Why is it never Mac Jones fault? Did other QBs who had good careers ever have a rift with coaches and subpar recievers? Of course, many have. They just quietly put up decent or even good numbers until they got into a better situation. A good QB would have at least showed signs that he could go out there and sling it. Almost everytime Mac threw a deep ball to an open reciever he missed the throw. One of Belichicks main priorities for his QBs was to just not lose the game by throwing stupid interceptions. Unfortunatly stupid interceptions were Macs specialty.

[@ald7248]

Hard to feel sorry for Mac when Zappe (despite having less natural talent) managed to at least slightly out-perform him.

[@theburtle9676]

​@@ald7248Crappe was worse than Mac lmao

[@LoneXWolfX99]

BB specifically ruined Mac Jones. I appreciate everything BB has done for the Pats & imo the greatest HC of all time but thank god he’s gone because it was time to move on. He’s completely ruined this team from top to bottom. Now since Mac Jones has been traded we need to completely start over by drafting a new QB.

[@RobertBallz]

Hopefully O’Brien is gone.

[@LoneXWolfX99]

@@RobertBallz Oh he definitely is😂 He’s going back to college football to be Boston college’s new HC. Good luck to them because O’Brian is awful. I was pissed when the Pats brought him back as OC last year.

[@ald7248]

O'Brien was never the problem. They didn't let O'Brien have any input on the 2023 draft or signings. It was all Groh & Bill B.

[@Kertbob-yu6dw]

I really like the location of the Get up studio location please renew the studio deal.

[@jonathancaverly6477]

4 days later and it looks like Fields isn't even getting picked up for a cheeseburger 😅

[@jeromejohnson5135]

If NFL coaches actually believed in developing and molding talent at the QB position, they wouldn’t be looking to draft a “Franchise Guy” every few years after drafting the “Franchise Guy”.

[@The-Canon]

Anyone trying to fill Tom Brady’s shoes and the expectations the org had after he’d set the bar was going to be ruined or fold.

[@AliFrankTheTank]

That wasn’t even Mac Jones lol that could be Cam excuse

[@elizabethgodfrey1033]

Cam didn’t sh*t the bed like Mac Jones. Mac sh*tted all over the Patriots, lost the locker room, very dirty to players, got 3 coaches fired, called BAMA for help. He & Zappe didn’t get along, either. Cam did get re-signed & left in honor. Mac didn’t. Cam didn’t try to fill Brady’s shoes. He’s himself, individual, and a Dual Threat QB. Cam made History as a Patriot QB, but NE writers covered up his good work, & hid his good work from the public. 😳👁😞

[@cedrickcarson]

I mean the league gets tough from a business standpoint. I personally would’ve kept Mac as a backup at worst if they were to move off him and bring in Maye or Daniels at that 3rd overall spot. Then again Mac didn’t help his case with his performances either. Granted it’s coaching but you still gotta play the position and perform.

[@adriandunn1882]

Haven’t watched the video yet but Dan giving another sorry quarterback a pass I’m guessing.

[@mugandaje]

lol the only person who ruined Jones was Jones.

[@Benjamin-fc9ww]

False. You don’t give a second year QB a defensive coordinator as his coach lol they definitely took part in his regression.

[@bigdogstatus83]

That's just not true.

[@franciscyr2471]

That’s what I figured he was worth after BB tore him apart with the situation in ‘22 & ‘23. Best of luck Mac.

[@JudyTew-l4n]

Thru Nov 19 last year, Zach Wilson (as a backup QB) was 4-6, Jordan Love was 4-6, and Mac Jones was 2-8. Zach got benched and only played one complete game (Jets vs Texans:30-6) thereafter. Jordan got the Packers into the playoffs, and the team has successfully moved on from Aaron Rodgers. The Packers know how to develop QB's. The Jets and Patriots...not so much.

[@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan]

As the Patriots fan, it's not the Patriots' ruined Mac Jones, Bill Belichick ruined him.

[@1000dollarHotdog]

Or maybe Mac just sucks

[@terrywarnold]

Belichick screwed over the Patriots GM wise!!!

[@VW20-bq9in]

Bill Belichick ruined Mac Jones by making a DC his OC and ST coach his QB coach. Bill Belichick then doubled down by giving him the Worst OL in NFL and no Weapons.

[@ald7248]

The Commanders had worse OL than the Pats did. The Patriots OL was bad, but it was *not* the worst.

[@amberashley7559]

What about Bryce Young? His team sucks seems like he is in the same situation as Mack

[@StephenNatoli-l6j]

No he isn't, young wasn't sabotaged by his head coach

[@ald7248]

Bryce Young was a preposterous hype job. He'll be given every chance at Carolina, though, since they broke the bank to land him at #1.

[@peterbeadsworth9643]

Completely ruined him. He didn't stand a chance. Should have been drafted by the 49ers and would have had it easy. How lucky is Purdy? Good pick up by the Jags, wish Mac all the best, he deserves it

[@Icanthearyouatall]

I like how the narrative with Mac is he was ruined by the organization but Justin fields has been in an terrible situation since he was drafted and we never hear that the bears ruined him it’s always “fields sucks”

[@1000dollarHotdog]

Bill B hate blinders on. People who actually watched Mac play know he’s awful. Doesn’t matter what team he has or what coaching he has. He doesn’t have it. He never will

[@Icanthearyouatall]

@@1000dollarHotdog that’s my point him and Justin fields are in the same situation and fields has shown he’s more talented than Mac Jones yet the narrative around the two are completely different

[@1000dollarHotdog]

@@Icanthearyouatallyep exactly

[@robindevily9182]

Did Trevor overcome Meyer or did he suck and get better with a better roster and Super Bowl winning coach

[@Thatscrazy92]

Belichick’s arrogance thinking he could replace McDaniels with a defensive coordinator and another bozo failed head coach in Judge destroyed any chance Mac had making it as a starter.

[@RobertBallz]

I like him with the Jags.

[@thechi2848]

Just like bears ruined fields

[@hakimmccants1370]

The bears adding pieces plus they have drafts picks

[@Pinkgreen190]

Agreed, that's part of why Belichick didn't get a coaching offer this year.

[@blondegirlsezthis8798]

Shoulda grabbed Marvin Harrison and gave Jones what made him great in Alabama. Instead we wasted two years and gave him no weapons and then ditch him. SLOW CLAP KRAFT

[@ald7248]

Grab Marvin Harrison so that Jones can underthrow him by 10 yards?? 🤣🤣🤣

[@blondegirlsezthis8798]

@@ald7248come on that's not true as long as Jones isn't being rushed and experiences no tackles before the play in the game and had his breakfast he could still make a decent throw

[@DarkSkinMann]

Dan was a below average QB so whenever he sees another below average player he roots for them.

[@deepaknambisan3251]

Exactly this.

[@romegrad454]

JJ almost tore that man Achilles 🤣

[@kalibakingJesustha1]

Jacoby Brissett and Jayden Daniels

[@FaydsterTV]

This is best duo I think they could manufacture.

[@kalibakingJesustha1]

@@FaydsterTV 1 half down

[@ernestday7148]

Im continually fascinated by how when Justin Fields doesnt play well ITS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSES FAULT. If he does bad at his next location will we still be blaming the team or will there at some point be a day when Sports Personalities finally say "You know what? Maybe Justin was a bust."

[@mynumberoneguy]

All Pro with a real OC in Josh Daniel's. Then his next OC were a special team's coach and defensive coordinator. BB did this intentionally because Mac publicly criticized him. That's a scumbag move. He literally cut off his nose to spite his face. That's why he didn't get a job with all the coaching vacancies. People talk. He won those rings because of Brady and everyone knows it. I'm saying this as a Giants fan because I recognize a sh!t show.

[@zyx777zyx]

That's why I hope the Patriots DON'T draft a QB 3rd overall.... He won't have anyone to throw to. Draft MHJ or Joe Alt and BUILD a team!! So frustrating as a fan!!!!

[@Dash277]

A lot of QBs get ruined in this league. That's why I wont criticize any QB that leverages his way to a team that wont.

[@ald7248]

Even if it ends tomorrow, you can't say that Jones wasn't in the Top-3 of the 2021 QB class.

[@floydwhatley9822]

Mac is going to end up being a profitable investment for jags. A 6th will turn into a 3rd pick for them in future

[@JKLauderdale]

When a coach who's not supplying any tutorial roleplayers/coaches pitches a fit about his starters having to go outside the facilities in order to find mentors... that says more about the coach than it does the player - That told me everything I needed to know about Bellichick, he DESTROYED Mac Jones' developmental years in the league. I hope Jones can recover and becomes a viable QB, if only to shove it in BB's face

[@jhacksb1399]

“As is the case of some idiot fans and media members, they can’t let a player be traded until they get in personal cheap shots. Mac Jones joins a long list of outgoing former Boston pro sports players who fans and media alike feel it’s OK to take venomous personal shots at. Only in Boston do we feel the need to do that, circumstances be damned, such as an aging head coach who set him up to fail by promoting two clueless people as offensive coaches. And the lack of talent set Jones and the Patriots up to fail. Good luck Mac Jones, New England does not deserve to have a good person like you representing the team.” Paul J. Baranofsky Waltham. Boston Herald - 3/12/2024

[@cambell-yi2gh]

I'm envisioning GM's everywhere begging owners not to take a QB until the team is close to set. The owners saying, "we need a qb now".

[@og_wan]

Woody was preaching at the end 🙌🏽

[@amberashley7559]

Totally agree with this take. Hopefully Mack will get the chance to play for a better team.

[@dton6708]

Folks acting like Mac Jones was an All Pro QB! Stop it! They wanna blame everyone else for his bad play. Half of that is Mac Jones fault! And Pats dont take no Minshew, draft a QB at 3, go get Flacco. Or trade for fields!

[@sherriehinz6582]

WHEN did Minchew become a good vet!??

[@yuhbtw]

Last year

[@garyamaral1648]

As a lifelong NEP fan, after TB12's departure the Pats offense has been a dumpster 🔥 The blame for the decline of Mac Jones lies squarely on the shoulders of the Patriots. I totally agree that poor coaching, poor surrounding talent and poor development is the recipe for utter failure. I hope that Mac can rebuild his career and become a starter once again after his time with the Jags.

[@Kwebster728]

@3:18 Thats Why I Say Take Harrison At 3.

[@ts9332]

Nearly 50% of quarterbacks drafted in the first round over the last 15 years have been total busts. Zach Wilson drafted #2 overall. Trey Lance drafted #3 overall. Daniel Jones drafted #6 overall Dwayne Haskins drafted #15 overall. Baker Mayfield drafted #1 overall. Sam Darnold drafted #3 overall. Josh Rosen drafted #10 overall. Mitchell Trubisky drafted #2 overall. Carson Wentz drafted #2 overall. Jamei Winston drafted #1 overall. Marcus Mariota drafted #2 overall. Blake Bortels drafted #3 overall. EJ Manuel drafted #16 overall. Robert Griffin 3rd drafted #2 overall. Ryan Tannehill drafted 8 overall. Sam Bradford drafted #1 overall. Mark Sanchez drafted #6 overall.

[@wolfkingsigma2795]

He couldn't handle pressure - and was spoiled at Alabama. Couldn't deal with NFL reality. Made terrible decisions under pressure. Didn't know how to throw the ball out of bounds.

[@brandonkozey]

Before Mac was drafted, if you actually watched him play at Alabama, you could tell he wouldn’t do good at the next level. He was surrounded by so much talent on the offensive side of the ball at Alabama, any average QB could’ve flourished with those weapons. He was overrated

[@HuChing-ob4kk]

just liek ALL Alabama quarterbacks...NOEN of those guys can play in the NFL...Bryce Young couldve IF he DIDNT go to Alabama

[@tylers9476]

So like Tua until he got Hill and Waddle....

[@HuChing-ob4kk]

@@tylers9476Alabama QBs are what you might call "game managers" ..they have ZERO physical talent (arm, legs, smarts, etc)..Nick Saban calls predetermined plays and they run them with overly talented players... Look at how much the Dolphins invested to make Tua even LOOK presentable with hsi weak arm, slow feet, undersized height and injury proned body.. Jalen Hurts had talent and had to LEAVE Alabama to become a semblance of a quarterback

[@robinsone.josephjoseph7249]

They ruined his career and on top of that trade him to a team where he won't compete for the starting job much less see playing time 😡

[@ald7248]

Not one other team had interest in Mac Jones. He's lucky to have landed somewhere before training camp starts.

[@trvnityc7010]

I’m so tired of these guys on panels saying coaching ruined Mac Jones , coaching didn’t make him throw the ball to the other team, the bottom line is Mac is not a leader and made terrible decisions on the field over and over again!

[@HuChing-ob4kk]

Some QBs have potentail...Mac Jones has NONE...he has no physicla potential, no mental potential or competitive potential...he is a "dud"..you cacSEE Zack Wilsons potential, you could SEE Jared Goof and Bake Mayfield..ALL of those QBs were bad situations..there is NO good situation for MAc Jones because he CANNOT PLAY...just as ALL Alabama Qbs cannot

[@og_wan]

Coaching is absolutely ruined Mac. Who did he have to throw to? He had a defensive coordinator and a special teams coach calling OFFENSIVE plays for him his second year. By the time Bill O’Brien got to him, Mac was damaged goods. I’m not completely absolving Mac for the way his career has panned out but to sit here and ignore what’s right in front of us is monkey business.

[@Scott_Dunbar_II]

Mac also didn't make the defense choke against the Raiders 2 years in a row and force his teammates to stupidly fumble or drop the ball in crucial situations.

[@trvnityc7010]

@@Scott_Dunbar_II yeah , but just couldn’t stop throwing to the other team

[@trvnityc7010]

@@og_wan both coaches were with the team for over 10 years ,both were head coaches and they also dumbed the offense down for a easy transition. Mac Jones is just not a starting QB bottom line.

[@joshuahodge8804]

Mac can probs compete with TLaw for the job in Jacksonville. They both were pretty bad last year

[@leo_2816]

Delete this comment

[@legitdragon6202]

Lmao right I knew there'd be dumb Jags fans thinking Mac is gonna push Trevor 😂

[@kalibakingJesustha1]

​@@leo_2816he not lying tho

[@YourMomSucksBalls]

Mac could take T Laws job possibly. The stats were similar between the 2

[@joshuahodge8804]

@@legitdragon6202 I’m not a jags fan lmao, I just have eyes. Neither players were good last year, this is the NFL they are both going to be competing for the job. Hope that helps your small brain

[@JQUE94]

I think Mac going to SF would have been the easiest college to nfl transition. He would have a solid coach, loaded roster and a proven system that fits majority of the QBs Shannahan puts in it.

[@shipitplease99999]

A dude like Mac has very limited place he can fit in. He’s immobile with no arm. At least when you see Purdy, he can scramble when he needs to. Mac can only check down or get int or sack

[@chrisweidner4768]

“3peat is on.” 💯💯☝️☝️ Greenie speaking like us fans. Well done, sir.

[@googlechicken]

Really? I didn’t notice.

[@adriandunn1882]

Dan you were wrong. Bro was below average. This is just Carson Wentz accelerated.

[@codyj7532]

Everyone is sleeping on Nathan Rourke

[@melanatedgod5337]

They're not 3-peating. Unless the NFL rigs it again.

[@Tbaby216]

Im not a fan of Daniels or maye .. i think new England should trade down and draft penix . Sign a veteran like kirk cousins if you can

[@user-mj7ps5wy9u]

What I like about maye is he’s 21 has a great build and strong arm meaning he has time to sit for a year or two while we build around that and he can actually learn

[@lakerskid2013]

As a Patriots fan I would be fully on board with Penix and that would be a perfect situation. They have nothing to lose at this point and might as well trade Bailey Zappe as well, put him in more of a position where he can succeed and become at minimum a high end backup.

[@Tbaby216]

@@user-mj7ps5wy9u didn't know he was that young that's cool but idk if he's the guy . We will find out tho 💯

[@Tbaby216]

@@lakerskid2013 I like that idea . Zappe seems like a nice back up

[@TruStatementNetwork]

As A Falcons fan I agree patriots really did Mac no favors

[@everyonesguy7466]

NHL goalie vs nfl qb which is the most important position in sports?

[@KRITORISS]

Mac was avg at best.....even Tua and Hurts said it while at Bama.......

[@tylers9476]

All Bama QBs are average

[@aem870]

As a person who has experience with other sports, quarterback is not the hardest nor the most important position in all of sports. A QB plays no part in other sports.

[@markmccreadie6212]

No they didn't at least by themselves. Jones was falling off already in the 2nd half of his first year and just kept falling. He makes terrible decisions passing wise. He needed to go

[@ojdajuiceman6139]

Mac Jones ruined himself

[@normandomino4140]

Yes they did. They gave him no weapons, a half behind defensive coordinator and especially trams coach to coach your offense. They ruined that man.

[@markbartoszek8585]

As a Pats fan who has watched every game since Mac Jones was drafted, the Pats did not ruin him. The coaching had nothing to do with him making bad decision after bad decision. Whether it's throwing into triple coverage, or taking a sack that takes them out of field goal range, Mac Jones has only himself to blame. Was he put in the best situation? No, but there were things he could've done to give his team a chance to win, and he blew it every time. I'm glad he's gone, and I'll be shocked if he ever gets another starting gig in the league.

[@Scott_Dunbar_II]

Before the Patricia/Judge experiment even started, Belichick literally told everyone to "blame him" if it would go badly, and it did. I feel like that takes away a majority of the blame Mac gets by default.

[@Kwebster728]

New England Patriots. Take Marvin Harrison Jr At 3. And Take Milton In The Second Round.

[@tiyalewhitehurst338]

5 QBs were drafted in the 1st Round of the 2021 NFL Draft all top 15 picks and the 1st Overall pick will be the only one still on his team

[@Kwebster728]

And The Tight End The Pats Drafted Last Year Will Be Healthy. He's Supposed To be Good.

[@oggrimes164]

Greeny should of asked tenabaum about drafting Mark Sanchez 😅

[@devallnotduvall4015]

Mike Tannebaum, be showing me why he is a FORMER GM

[@higherlearning5079]

What did the Bears do to Justin Fields? The Bears did far worse by him. But, no analyst is saying that. Why??? NO team wanted Justin and none of them are questioned for passing up on him, but now he should be starter in Pittsburg, because he is a top talent in the NFL. We know biases is used for clicks, but its being taking to far by those that know football. Stay honest and more people will get it and as a society we will be better. But for now there is an audience that knows better, could you just cater to them/us a little more.

[@elijah.j3288]

Denver truly downgraded the roster after hiring Sean Peyton

[@John_TalksGiants]

No way Mac is as trash as he’s been post rookie season. Unfortunately tho he doesn’t appear to be on pace to really prove it.

[@HuChing-ob4kk]

that MFers is TRASH....his success as a rooke was because defense didnt know what to expect from him..after watching film and tape you KNOW what you are getting..he just isnt a good QB

[@Christmascandycane]

I hope we get Jayden Daniels and get a better offense this year and that’s it without bill

[@imranak]

Drafting a QB is a crapshoot is only partially correct Drafting a pure pocket passer QB with no running ability is crapshoot. The only way running QB's have failed is if 1. They got injured (RG3, Anthony Richardson (for now)) 2. The had the opportunity to draft a arguably a better prospect (Fields) Cam, Lamar Jackson, Hurts, Kyler Murray all stayed with their teams for a second contract. Only pure pocket passers blow up in you face (Zack Wilson, Mac Jones, Trubisky)

[@ald7248]

Running QBs are *much* more likely to get hurt and have shorter careers (Cam only just made it to his 2nd contract before declining). With the exception of a couple guys (e.g. prime Russell Wilson) the Pocket Passers are the elite QBs. Higher-risk, but higher-ceiling.

[@ScottB-d8b]

here is what this means: Jones will become starting QB and the Jags can go back to being at the bottom of the junk pile…Bright side? T Lawrence cannFINALLY go to a team that will become winners!

[@christopherriley9372]

Why not bring Fields to Baltimore? He's skillfully made for what Lamar has proven works for the Ravens offensively. Plus the change of pace when you have to rest your starting quarterback is a young man who can make plays with his feet and possibly learn how to make plays with his arm like Lamar has grown into.

[@cambell-yi2gh]

Jeudy trade makes me think Denver might actually know what they're doing now.

[@damariokimble6817]

The media is funny they will admit the pats ruined jones but don’t bring up bad coaching when it’s true for feilds

[@TheyCallMeSwo]

Maybe some of these NFLowners should hire these guys as consultants. These guys are so right and the rich owners blindly let their GM’s ruin their teams with just blatant and cocky bad decisions.

[@bo0gi3]

Let’s not play dumb, Pats taking a QB at 3. Whether it’s Maye or Daniels

[@tnyce616]

That walk on draft day ruined Mac Jones

[@cheddarcheese1030]

Bears should pass on Caleb Williams

[@Prettyfresh20]

The best option for fields would be to sit behind lamar jackson and learn from him. And he would be a viable option better than the guy they got from the patriots if something like an injury happens to lamar in the regular season. But the bears would have to take a lot of that contract and a low pick if they want fields off of their hands.

[@RobertBallz]

It’s going to be pointless for a lot of teams to trade for him. Fields will be looking to get paid.

[@normandomino4140]

They need to trade back to 5 . 3rd pick for Justin Herbert, a 2, 3, and a 5th in this draft.