Stephen A. & Ryan Clark’s BIG DEBATE over Josh Allen vs. Patrick Mahomes 🍿 | First Take

[@izMargaret]

When these two play, it's unlike any other game in the NFL; it feels like a heavyweight championship fight is about to happen.

[@Mcboi514]

I hate how media turned football to a Tennis match, like come on!! What about the pass rush, coverages, offensive lines. It's not just about 2 qbs.

[@selaw21]

I completely agree.

[@jrad410]

Oversimplified narratives. But fans players and media all buy into this framing

[@Jeremy-ny3wt]

@@jrad410I mean if you know football the media shouldn’t matter ignore the media 9 times out of 10 none of them played or held a football anyway😂

[@aryanbagga820]

@@Jeremy-ny3wthalf of the media nowadays are ex players lol so idk about that

[@Makeyourselfhappy111]

A tennis match is a bad analogy.... That's because the qb is the head of the snake and no team makes it to the post season without a legitimate QB.... Everything you mentioned means nothing if the leader isn't producing period argue with your mate...

[@AUSTYN_1]

I love how Cam has a Backpack on his Hat 😂

[@davidmaez7253]

😆 🤣

[@HanzGruber-j1v]

That's where he keeps all his child support payments just like Tyreek Hill 😅

[@billbond2045]

Thats a fanny pack 😂😂🤣

[@andrewatkinson3700]

I thought it was a 2x4 board

[@marckusduverger9776]

I just now noticed that lol

[@williamallen7984]

“Does it have an expiration date?” I ask the same thing about Burrow winning that conference championship. He’s been living off that game ever since.

[@xNEWxGODxFLOxx]

Man facts

[@Chudchannel3]

Crazy question when Josh is having a great season

[@marckusduverger9776]

True but Joe Burrow did get to the AFC Championship again when he last was in the playoffs. The main thing is he’s been injured 2 of his 5 seasons. This is the first year he’s missed the playoffs while healthy, so I kind of get it

[@ThomasJoe..]

They talk about 3 or 4 years ago. Allen lost last year too

[@xNEWxGODxFLOxx]

@ facts bro l don’t get it sometimes it’s a player that just stands in the way of other players Mahomes is that guy right now Brady was always in Manning way

[@og_paulsack]

Cam Newton talking about distractions when he’s dressed like a children’s book

[@michaeldurham1986]

You seemly get distracted easy than listen.

[@lensmith4024]

And you seem like a hatter 🤣 keep doing your job

[@lucaswade576]

A hater? Lol ​@@lensmith4024

[@lees5953]

😂Cam took a trash team to the superbowl, you took a man to the meat bowl.

[@deedeesmart1374]

Lol, oh my goodness, you made me.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nagude6]

I’m calling for a First Take vs First Things First showdown. Head to head matchup to crown the unofficial / official people’s champ !

[@Noob_Guy2k]

Lmfao get up better than both

[@selaw21]

If they were to do that, be sure to turn your volume down.

[@Veeezy]

First thing first sweeps 4-0

[@youtuber_00786]

First Take is so much better. Nick Wright is a wannabe Skip Bayless.

[@Jeremy-ny3wt]

@@youtuber_00786of course then Stephan A added UNC Shannon sharpe they hit gold they are years ahead

[@stackntax1308]

I swear I hate how we discuss football the only time two QBs are on the field at the same time is at the end of the game when they are shaking heads it’s the chiefs vs the bills not Mahomes vs Allen

[@chillin70483]

proper analysis doesn't get views because the average fan doesn't understand, so this is what they have to cover football like to make their careers profitable

[@ariici]

i swear they do it because they get views from dumbasses like you who go and comment giving them engagement lmfaooo

[@ONGEES]

Aye facts bro. It’s kinda disrespectful to the other players because they are the ones making the plays fr.

[@stackntax1308]

@@ONGEES exactly Chris jones could have 10 sacks on Sunday and Monday morning the headline will be “Mahomes outduels Allen again”

[@ONGEES]

@@stackntax1308 😂😂😂 i totally agree, brother!

[@colereviewsyt]

James Cook is easily the most disrespected football player in the NFL

[@Beantown85]

He’s up there for sure dude gets no love and he’s a beast

[@aw_shucks17]

hes great but he doesnt get enough touches like other rbs. hes crazy efficient with his carries and hes also in a rb by committee with 2 other Rbs who are also doing well. the bills OL is extremely underrated imo

[@jealousyxanderblood7894]

Joe Burrow. Never seen this many people talk garbage about the best statistical qb in the league since 2021.

[@BIGDREAMER444]

bros on his way to most touchdowns for a rb in a season including playoffs

[@austinburwell5834]

Because the media is trying to make it seem like Josh has no help

[@jabbaranks3241]

Stephen A love sayin “I defer to u cuz u played” and then be tryin to tell them they wrong or can’t ever admit he wrong 😭😭😭

[@AG-tq6dz]

😂😂😂

[@xNEWxGODxFLOxx]

💯💯💯😂

[@deedeesmart1374]

That is why I look at him like hes crazy.

[@machodgdon]

Zach Wilson catching a stray is wild

[@tredeuce8861]

We got Steinfield vs Swift before GTA 6.

[@xXElement]

What a stupid comment

[@sandyperez8270]

Steinfeld* not Steinfield.. #BillsMafia

[@Stevenirons]

She's with Josh?​@@sandyperez8270

[@paletososracing5768]

Pat has 3 rings and we still debating who’s the game “QB” Come on !!!!!! The disrespect! Pat is the NFL Steph Curry

[@str8nashtygaming466]

RC taking low key shots at Josh Allen by basically calling him a game manager..... " Josh Allen didn't go out there and prove he was better than Lamar Jackson, he just didn't turn the football over" 😂😂😂 RC is a joke

[@worldwidemike24]

That was true

[@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn]

That's the thing. Sometimes, you just win without having to do much. Sunday, he had a few short fields due to the turnovers, and Buffalo's running attack was eating the Ravens alive. You don't have to throw it much when you are ahead like the Bills were. Protecting the ball is paramount to winning, which Josh did extremely well this season.

[@marckusduverger9776]

What RC said is true though, if you looked at all the teams that won their stats are more modest & they didn’t turn the ball over. Well excluding Jayden Daniels who is balling out

[@str8nashtygaming466]

@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn yeah but he said it implying that it wasn't because of Josh Allen that they won that game. They made it seem like all he did was not lose it, which is BS.

[@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn]

@str8nashtygaming466 While I agree with what you're saying, I've learned to tune out the race baiters like Mr. Clark and Mr. Newton, as they both have been holding Josh and Lamar to two different standards (Nothing Josh (and subsequently Buffalo) does is good enough, and Lamar deserves accolades for doing the bare minimum due to color of their skin). We saw Josh did more than that, but in their minds, he's supposed to be Superman every game when, in fact, being Clark Kent is enough to succeed. Between the turnovers, Buffalo taking advantage of short fields and their defense stepping up (something a lot of people are ignoring) and making key plays when it matters, this is how it's gonna be viewed.

[@kcsniper1243]

People act like Allen had amazing numbers this year. He is an MVP this year because he did everything the team required to win. Josh finished 14th in Passing Yards. 7th in Passing TDs. And his Completion percentage of 63% is ranked bottom 5 amongst QBs who started more than 8 games.

[@joneslt]

Reg season these guys are pretty equal. Playoffs Mahomes is better than Allen

[@analyticalinsight]

Actually he isnt....Chiefs team has been better....

[@goofy_xf6223]

@@analyticalinsighthe is better. Mahomes was down his top 2 receivers all season and is still Top in a few QB categories. Stop it

[@analyticalinsight]

@goofy_xf6223 Allen has been better than Mahomes in reg season the last 2 years...even without Rice n Brown...DeAndre Hopkins and Kelce are BETTER than anyone Buffalo has

[@gowancolley7619]

@@joneslt chiefs defense makes stops in the playoffs. Buffalo's defense has been brutal when it matters most

[@johnsonle9440]

This is the Superbowl match up right here

[@suki355]

Cam shouldn't be on show. He also just sides w blk players

[@PennyFitzgeraldFan]

ESPN acting like this is the match of the century when it 3-0 Mahomes in it calm down jeez it nothing special.

[@jfinch8328]

You can see the pain in Cam eyes everytime they bring up that Super Bowl😂😂

[@Kingbrian248]

Cam didn't want to be challenged cause when the challenge came in the super bowl he folded

[@samwilson4597]

dude would anything to go back in time and have another crack at it

[@michaeldurham1986]

@@Kingbrian248he admitted he wished he would had jumped in the ball. But he didn’t play badly

[@Chudchannel3]

Cam newton sucks

[@Chudchannel3]

Is everyone on this show dumb

[@chriszbytek1807]

Allen>Newton

[@SalsEyebrows]

Stephen A hitting Ryan Clark with the "YOU PIVOTED" 🤣😂

[@simser92]

Respect to von Miller 🐐

[@octaviodovalle6550]

RC can’t stop saying stupid things lately

[@colinforsecs3393]

Dudes a clown

[@theblinkerx]

Whenever these two play its unlike any other game in the NFL it legit feels like a heavyweight championship fight is coming

[@jamalmapp3242]

Couldn’t have said it better man. Feel like the Super Bowl before the Super Bowl.

[@ariici]

@ i feel bad for the eagles.(just kidding) They will 1000% lose to the chiefs or bills in the SB. The commanders are the only ones who have a chance against those 2 teams

[@Maxwellschro]

@@ariiciAgreed, it's their explosive play ability; it's like being able to shoot the three ball well in basketball, makes no lead safe or gives a bigger chance for the team to win the game

[@ariici]

@@Maxwellschro eagles just dont have the QB and thats very important. Hurts is hurt and not 100%

[@codyl4961]

The cheating from the chiefs ruins it though

[@davemiller3245]

Does he have a battery pack on the back of his hat?

[@MatthewReynolds-iu2nu]

Say it again ryan, no qb matches #15 in championships in the league. That MATTERS!

[@bchap1233]

It’s pretty easy when it’s given to you

[@xXElement]

Well we all know ryan clark hates josh allen

[@5EK5HUN8]

Racist. that's why

[@truthtella3371]

why?😂

[@DiegoAndres-ey6mj]

Yeh

[@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn]

Race baiting. Granted, most MSM hates Josh.

[@5EK5HUN8]

@WhtCrstlJudgmntDrgn can't possibly like a white guy, that would be white supremacy

[@Artbyartcreates]

Does Cam not understand that Josh Allen has always played his best football versus Patrick Mahomes the only reason he lost those games when it mattered is because Patrick Mahomes had the football last in regulation and first in overtime. That’s it! Josh Allen‘s defense needs to step it up. But that’s not a sexy headline.

[@justingreene3672]

Nah Josh and his 182 passing yards had the ball last in buffalo last year and settled for FG. Thats on him. They would’ve lost if bass makes the kick also. Allen didn’t score a TD like he needed because he was missing throws and almost fumbled the Game away on that last drive. Stop lying smh.

[@JasonBlames]

@@justingreene3672bills didn’t play they best ball it’s not just one person this isn’t tennis it’s a team sport

[@Artbyartcreates]

@@JasonBlames facts!

[@Zarkmoneybags]

Josh Allen just not good enough to win for his team in the playoffs so he has to blame the defense

[@Artbyartcreates]

@ ok

[@raymond3803]

*I'M SHOCKED!* I thought Cam would say Josh Allen needs to make a *BUSINESS DECISION.* That's the key to his legacy.

[@immanuel3694]

You pivoted 😂 I respect it

[@georgemapes3526]

Why do you keep asking him he wasn't that good of a quarterback

[@truthtella3371]

who??😂

[@ONGEES]

Who that bro?

[@jrcalderon7102]

He’s talking about cam and he’s right 😂 what has he accomplished outside of one MVP?

[@truthtella3371]

@ “what did he accomplish outside of one mvp” u sound dumb😂😂

[@georgemapes3526]

@jrcalderon7102 he learned how to dress funny

[@littlerush99]

Listen to Cam now , because he will change his Story later! CAM talks and then changes it , as soon as the Outcome is Different!😂😂😂

[@ZeroenHawk]

Its the chiefs vs the bills not mahomes vs allen i hate how they dumb the debate down for casuals like tf are ya talking about and they use to play smh

[@TomBad-o6x]

You know what's crazy 😂 when josh Allen loss in that 13 SECONDS game 😂 EVERYONE SAID JOSH ALLEN OUTPLAYED GOAT MAHOMES 😂 in week 11 when josh Allen won😂 everyone said josh Allen beat goat mahomes

[@dariusjohnson6013]

Let’s be real this is the Super Bowl. Outside of Eagles and commanders fans nobody in the NFL thinks the NFC teams can beating the bills or the Chiefs.😂

[@marckusduverger9776]

Eagles have probably the best roster in Football & imo March up really well with the Bills. So if the Bills win this match up I have the Eagles winning the Super Bowl (ofcourse if they beat the Commanders).

[@db338]

Nobody seems to care about the NFC game. This is the one that’s being talked about everywhere.

[@sbp69]

If you started watching football a couple years ago, you’d think Cam Newton was a top 10 qb all-time the way these espn analysts glaze him to his face

[@jakeemforeman2449]

Fr I just literally commented something like this.

[@curryshotyou1538]

If I am Josh Allen I am looking at it like this. years now when ESPN does my 30 for 30. I dont want to ever say I couldn't beat Patrick Mahomes.

[@billbond2045]

I think spag and the defense will have a big say in this game

[@xNEWxGODxFLOxx]

Definitely I’m sure the Chiefs defense is tired of hearing about Josh Allen

[@odbbreezy8703]

RC got too speaking facts and they instantly played the background music 💯💯🐐

[@mrchillz6789]

People act like that defense won't be ready. That defense still has championship medal and mentality. You can get yards, but can you score.

[@cyherrejonAngel]

Ryan Clark is racist, I’m tired of his POV

[@jamesjazzy8040]

I'll settle it right now Mahomes was told not to go to the Pro Bowl this year he was rejected as he's in a state of decline. He was sent home to his couch due to his poor performance this season

[@PeteJones425]

Marcellus Wiley’s video on Ryan Clark’s race hustling as an analyst was wild. 😂 It’s not surprising, Ryan Clark brings that feminine energy.

[@MV-eh3xf]

This is like Marquez vs Pacman you have to win at some point especially if you keep seeing the mfs 😂

[@bdotdrumz]

SAS is speaking as a fan. That “head to head” thought process will cause the game to get away from Josh Allen

[@spade565]

Mahomes does not need to do too much to beat the bills. Because he wasn't the main weapon for the chiefs during the regular season, it was the defense. Offensively, the chiefs haven't been who they were in the past and I think that's fine as long as you don't put too much pressure on one side of the ball. I can see mahomes throwing under 300 yards with a TD but it would be his defense that would help put the team on top.

[@arron6867]

The expiration date on that performance is this weekend.

[@papishampoo5235]

RC is a clown. The biggest race baiter in ESPN.

[@natedogg8648]

Because he not slurping off Josh Allen GTFOH anytime someone criticizes josh they are race baiting stop playing the race card like you 🤡 always tell black people

[@milesmorales6148]

Tf are you talking about?? He didn't bring up race at all. Knock it off!

[@ajgarcia1962]

I thought they were already over their clown quota but apparently not. Please get cam newton out of here.

[@juicejuice5013]

Im with Stephen A on this Allen need at Least a 6 TD Game

[@zboy2020vision]

I disagree I think it more matters that cook has a good game along with bills defensive line

[@juicejuice5013]

@ 3 rush TD combine with 3 pass or run TD that’s 6 right there either way he gotta go get it

[@Shiloh_Shepherd]

Not true

[@zboy2020vision]

@@juicejuice5013 I think 30 can be enough if bills d show up

[@derinjet]

Have ESPN been reading our comments??? Molly isn't interrupting

[@dredagr848]

How SAS not gonna be in studio but Cam is

[@steveshipkie1624]

In my opinion, the NFL will not let anyone beat Patrick Mahomes,, they are a business and they have the attitude of them is if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. They like the Chiefs

[@user-gt4xg7el8n]

Grow up

[@LH-pu3jx]

Put your back account on the chiefs if you’re so confident

[@alexisandrose5435]

I hope Cam keep that same energy with Burrow. How long ago did he beat the Chiefs and that’s all they hold on to

[@notmareelnam7545]

I'm so tired of hearing Cam use a bunch of words he read once thinking he's making a point.

[@bubba72205]

Quite a turn of narrative from RC, and Cam being the voice of reason 💯

[@xkmmx2132]

Cam hates Josh because Josh has literally made his career seem ordinary

[@kcnfdntc]

The defense has to get 1 more stop than the offense. Nick Foles scored 40 and the defense stopped Tom Brady from scoring 41. More specifically the Eagles offense scored 40 and Eagles defense stopped The Patriots from scoring 41.

[@Rackflippa]

Cam’s takes be awful😂

[@hfnavi132]

I was expecting Refs vs Josh Allen. I think Refs would win. Josh Allen vs anyone not wearing a Zebra outfit, I would take Josh Allen even over Tommy B., and I am a Patriots Guy.

[@Zarkmoneybags]

Josh Allen gets more help from the refs More roughing the passer calls than Mahomes Allen is soft

[@ThePuertoRican_Goat]

@@hfnavi132 Allen over Tom Brady I want what this dude smoking 😭

[@hfnavi132]

@ThePuertoRican_Goat Lets do an experiment, Belichick Defense versus Jerod Mayo's Defense. Who you got. Tom Brady on Jerod Mayo team 2024 Josh Allen on Belichick's team 2019 Who you got? Still believe in Brady? I'm an actual patriots fan but you’re Coping serious stuff if you think Brady wasn't helped entirely by Defense. Josh Allen has a Defense sure but they ain't nearly as good the Belichick Defense. Jamie Collins Donta Hightower Devin Mccourty Jason Mccourty Jonathan Jones Stephen Gilmore Lawrence Guy John Simon Not to mention that O line. Playoff berth. The only weak point was Brady bro. Leagues changed. Drake Maye is practically going to be a 2.0 version of Josh Allen. Tho not as fundamentally sound since he is only 20. But nice try bro.

[@lifeforms7423]

See when you say stupid stuff like this, it just shows you really shouldn't be typing anything in the comments section. Josh Allen gets more calls than Mahomes. He has more roughing the passer calls in less games played than Mahomes. He also has multiple compilations on KZbin of all his flops throughout his career.

[@hfnavi132]

@@lifeforms7423 Okay...We will see.

[@Exit65Wyatt]

Cam was a Great Addition to the Show!

[@db338]

To Allen’s fans and foes, it’s a team sport. Not only his fault when they lose, but also not only him when they win. Look at Joe Burrow. I really hope the Bills win on Sunday and shut certain people up.

[@joshchavez8614]

Pat isn’t gonna try to beat him by points he’s going to play a clean game, take points when needed, and just hold a lead. Unlike Josh Patrick is going to make the plays that will win him these types of game

[@SPORTS1000NFL]

How is Josh better than Mahomes tho Cam

[@GGGryphonZ]

5:13 LMAO idk why this made me laugh

[@influienceplaysinfluience]

Josh literally played denver and ravens way better than chiefs defense

[@Ctbsports-28]

Ryan smiling and grinning like he didn’t just get demolished by Marcellus Wiley

[@billeh60]

Cam has obviously some hatred towards mahomes greatness. He doubted the chiefs all season and still hasn’t given them credit

[@GassOnly]

That notification from ESPN🤌🏾🤌🏾

[@colereviewsyt]

Bro you just have to tell Stephen A ok. He's not going to see he may not be right

[@selaw21]

As long as he's been around the game, and around people who have played the game, he still looks at the game through the lens of a casual fan. He always thinks it needs to be a rockem-sockem robots, kill or be killed death match.

[@Fotosynthesis858]

The ref’s will always be an issue. The league favors the Chiefs. They’re their poster boys. They’re the new Patriots. The league will always favor ONE TEAM 💯

[@austincox5809]

We need an overtime game

[@michaelmunro8147]

Cam has a cigarette pack holder on his top hat 🎩

[@iamhorcruxer]

Hmm they said Joe Burrow lost to Tampa and said Mahomes lost to Tampa. Sounded like they said both was in the Super Bowl but I thought Brady only won a Super Bowl with Tampa once?

[@BurnerOfKD]

9:18 He said he didn’t say that’s what he had to do, he did what the job called for?? If that’s what the job called for then that’s what he had to do. Sometimes Ryan Clark doesn’t make sense, he just be talking.

[@team_gabe_rice9333]

RC has a point

[@johnr8309]

Josh Allen needs a better game because Kansas City has a better defense.

[@Resultsnoexcuse]

11:20 Zach Wilson caught a mean stray 😭

[@Randy-ul5hy]

Can we please remember that Football is a Team sport and its not one player against another. Its one TEAM against another. The QB's can play an outstanding game but if the rest of the team stinks up the field how can one player be blamed. Fans never blamed Gretzky when the Rangers or Oilers failed, it was a team loss. Somehow it has developed into this QB against QB debate which in my opinion is just wrong no matter what QB it is.

[@queensb3852]

I loved this segment

[@chet174able]

Josh is a better quarterback. Patrick just had a better defense.

[@Whotfiskyy]

Stephen A sound like he preaching 😂 8:00

[@humanitiessupervillian]

Stephen a is wrong on this one, you have to go into this game believing your defense can get stops and just play your game. We saw what that was like last year when the ravens abandoned the run game.

[@zee9er]

Josh didn’t even have to try against the Ravens lmfao 😂

[@jakeemforeman2449]

They need to stop glazing Cam bruh 😂😂😂😂.

[@blaykeysproduction]

Y does the media act like football is 1v1

[@narrickcuz]

I’m not gonna lie this was a pointless debate. Let’s be clear Josh can’t get away with how he played last week against Lamar. Cheifs defense will not allow the run game to control the game and Mahomes will not dig his own hole in the first half like Lamar.

[@Sean-nj3hx]

This is what you get when you use a team stat like superbowls to grade QBs , ridiculous conversations like this

[@JoeyGatsby]

Stephen A doesn’t care, he saw the twitter back and forth Ryan Clark had and wanted some engagement for himself

[@shiscarp]

Cam said he would be coming in with a warrior’s mentality. Kind of like his fumble when he refused to jump on the ball?😮

[@Fishing4Mortgages]

PLEEEEEEASE Bills, get that W!!!!!

[@LaVaFlash]

Cam said it best at the end, Josh Allen has to play his absolute best to assure there’s no room for Mahomes to do his magic

[@Derrick-j5r]

Clark's hate for JA is funny. He was supposed to get crushed last week. He won and didn't even play a B plus game. Now that Josh has evolved from having a lot turnovers. He's ready to take over. This was supposed to be a rebuild yr for the Bills. Buffalo 27 Chiefs 23 Go Bills!!!

[@malawi44]

This definitely about race.

[@LoveU-qd9ji]

I can't watch this show anymore with the simple fact that Cam Newton's sitting there looking like a clown

[@joshuajuarez3471]

Man, new phrase of the year. “Two things can be true at the same time”. Ow it’s every clip on every talk on every debate. Stop

[@Jordyrugby]

Mahomes isn’t the same guy anymore….his team is still the best though. KC with Lamar, Josh, or Burrow would likely be as good or maybe even better.

[@tonywiddop9137]

I’m from England been watching this great game for 40plus years now and still don’t get why it’s all about the quarterback last time I looked it was a team sport 🤔

[@platinumog913]

Go chiefs three 3️⃣ peat loading 🏆🏆

[@McFlyGod]

One is creating a narrative, the other is analyzing football. Josh has tried to outscore Patrick... IT HASNT WORKED!!!!!!

[@MrAllenVII]

SAS made more sense than RC