Stephen A. puts ALL THE PRESSURE on Lamar Jackson 🗣️ 'WHERE IS HE IN THE POSTSEASON?' | First Take

[@ghostfvce0]

Neither Lamar or Josh have been to the Super Bowl. Therefore the same amount of pressure applies to both.

[@tonethevirgo]

Exactly

[@playmajor]

One of these two has two mvps and about to take home a third Lamar has a little more pressure than Allen

[@calebsandle7141]

No, there is deffo more pressure on Lamar because he has a better team. He was way better options and a better defence. If he plays poorly compared to Allen this playoffs then it really hurts his legacy. DISCLAIMER: I’m no saying he WILL play poorly I’m saying if he does that looks really bad because he has a much better team then Allen.

[@yenneferofvengerberg4936]

Lamar Jackson has 2 mvps and 2 playoff wins. Josh Allen is way better and more accomplished , so you’re wrong. Lamar can’t throw either

[@almightyk3m91]

@@yenneferofvengerberg4936and how many mvp Josh have?

[@acephas3]

The issue is this: We want to throw out everyone’s rookie year, except for Lamar.

[@Flacsem]

LITERALLY

[@Levels2TopGeeStatus]

When he only started 6-7 games in the regular season

[@punishergame]

Lol talk what he do in the playoffs !!! But never hear josh got the most turnovers since he was drafted.. act like he never was sorry.

[@Scantgod]

And the youngest qb to ever start a game…meanwhile Josh played backup qbs in his wins and losses to burrow and patty

[@jaythevibe7130]

Watch Allen lose to Bo nix I’m gonna have a day

[@JJ-rz4pz]

How can yall say Josh is better but put more expectations on Lamar

[@taykitrleevitt4314]

😂👍

[@tonygreen4856]

Because he is a 2x mvp should be held to higher standards

[@JJ-rz4pz]

@@tonygreen4856 yes he should have higher expectations but u can’t say Josh is better every year but not give him the same expectations

[@gaetanodicaprio7681]

@@tonygreen4856 Allen has been put on a pedestal he does not deserve yet. Lamar has been doubted at every step in his career and they just keep moving the goalpost where Allen was just anointed as the second best qb in the nfl and is talked about as if he’s won mvps and Super Bowls.

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol because Lamar is black and they want them to play perfect every game especially Lamar

[@anwarknight7667]

So basically they are creating an excuse for Allen if he loses..

[@danielventura8118]

The Bills were supposed to be a in a rebuild year….65 mil in dead cap lmao 😂 You guys have Derrick Henry and 9 pro bowlers

[@jalenfrank7058]

Hating on a team for having 9 pro bowlers makes no sense😂

[@gj5990]

He won’t

[@atraina6921]

@@danielventura8118Lol the excuses have already started 😂

[@WilliamBrown-pk8hd]

That's exactly what they are doing, in the event where the Bills lose, they're going to give him his participation trophy early.

[@atraina6921]

So let me get this straight.. Allen is from I what I hear the MVP who ESPN and people think is better than Lamar, but he has less pressure to win than Lamar because he’s played better in the post season and yet is still without a ring just like Lamar? The media bias and loops to place Allen above Lamar is insane atp

[@tigera6]

Bills has 2 ProBowler and Ravens has 8 ProBowler, different level of support from their team. But if Allen end up with 1TD and 2 Turnovers, then he should be criticized as well.

[@yenneferofvengerberg4936]

Wahhhh people want to hold Lamar accountable wahhh it’s racism wahhh . Lamar is 2-3 in the playoffs and has 2 mvps , see a problem with that ?

[@nickwilson6393]

Yea cuz Lamar chokes in big games and threw a ball in triple coverage vs the cheifs

[@danielventura8118]

Lamar has terrible numbers in the playoffs lmao 😂 The Bills were supposed to be in a rebuild year.Josh Allen has played so much better then Lamar in the playoffs it’s not even close.Josh’s td to int ratio is crazy for Allen in the playoffs….We are talking about playoffs.The Bills have failed Josh in the playoffs multiple times.Lamar plays actually terrible and costs his team the wins.Taron Johnson pick 6 for example.

[@Aneeshtheofan]

@@tigera6don’t bring pro bowlers into this because that is complete bs. There are guys getting snubbed from pro bowl.

[@MrSmellGoodt]

It’s time for Lamar to win a Superbowl

[@willsmith6291]

💫💫💫

[@yannickmukendi4364]

Not if he sees Mahomes, he chokes Everytime

[@erickarge1838]

Well he just had the 4th greatest season ever by a QB with a nice boost of 1k rushing yard to add to it… so maybe this is his year.

[@yannickmukendi4364]

@@erickarge1838 it won’t matter when he goes to arrowhead stadium

[@erickarge1838]

@@yannickmukendi4364 why not? They lost by seven in game one of the season? The ravens are hot as fire rn. If Lamar plays well he wins. Period.

[@Rackflippa]

Does the segment ever change? You guys been putting pressure on lamar all year WE GET IT!

[@Bigtheatabighook33]

No they haven't. They've been crowning his non throwing self all season.

[@Rackflippa]

@@Bigtheatabighook33shut up. You just saying anything lol

[@Bigtheatabighook33]

57% completion percentage in the playoffs argue w a wall

[@Gemicideee]

@@Bigtheatabighook33 "non throwing self"? he leads the league in passer rating, qbr, 2nd in TDS, top 5 in passing yards, and broke numerous records. The old lamar hasn't been even close as good as this one, which is why he will perform this year in the playoffs. arugue w a wall

[@jonrodriguez2820]

@@Rackflippashut up loser, Lamar is a 2x mvp who can’t get over the hurdle, with a 9 pro bowl roster and Derrick Henry, vs Allen who is in rebuild year, but is soo good as a player he’s taking this team to the playoffs

[@KellyFam402]

The way that Kimberly keeps glitching is mad funny 😂😂😂😂😂

[@coonnfriend]

I don't blame her this argument is nerve racking

[@TheJakeman91]

shes terrible. god listening to her hurts my ears

[@kevinsun4443]

Shouldn’t even be on this show

[@dacrib5350]

She's thinking about how hard she's gonna have to slurp up the producer after looking so incompetent again.

[@IamSBGKILO]

Facts 😂 shorty was tweaking

[@TheResponsePolice]

The way the media disrespects Lamar Jackson is insane! 😂😂

[@danielventura8118]

He sucks in the playoffs lmao 😂

[@JG-ll5lf]

Well I mean he plays so well in the regular season but doesn’t show up in the playoffs.

[@joepzenz]

You mean the same media that awarded him with those MVPs and all pro selections? That media?

[@OwskiiiGaming]

How is it disrespect when he has 6/6 in 6 playoff games?

[@johnherbst8307]

Are you special needs? Lamar has 6TDs, 6INTs and one playoff win Josh Allen has 21TDs 4 INTS

[@moldyslug]

Kimberly is SAS biggest opp I swear 💀💀

[@robliberachi]

The new Monica

[@rozanafelicien3557]

"We do not care". LOL! I love her!

[@kevinsun4443]

She needs to go

[@sczr1186]

Clearly they wanted to mix in some "sassy black woman" flavor to spice up the show.

[@jedikobean2307]

@@rozanafelicien3557she trash. Only got a job cuz she black

[@jordainellewellyn7426]

Josh Allen has the same amount of pressure as Lamar. The media need to stop holding onto the 13 second game.

[@yeame6007]

Keep saying that he didn’t get the ball back A lot of players/teams lost because they didn’t have the ball back That’s such a bad take Just like KD foot on the line shot vs Bucks Sorry your foot has to be behind the line for it to be counted as a 3

[@anthonucarter9277]

Whose team is better?

[@juiceloose2462]

@@yeame6007bad comparison.. Kd had a chance it was his Toe .. coin flip can’t be the determining factor

[@tavonburns3905]

Lamar by a mile ​@@anthonucarter9277

[@IG.Lajet_]

@@anthonucarter9277the record says the Bills

[@Bernes7]

SAS was chewing her ahh up this whole clip lol the passive aggression is hilarious 😂

[@Milt-g4f]

Is that what you saw?😂😂😂

[@sinceremilkofisrael4449]

@@Milt-g4fSorry, no he was not 😂

[@tonygreen4856]

@@sinceremilkofisrael4449she definitely lost the dagger was the stats 6td 6picks in 6games

[@willsmith6291]

No he wasn't lol if Stephen A Smith rates Josh more than Lamar how come after 10 playoffs appearances NO SUPERBOWL for Allen?????

[@draethereum]

How did Allen do in the playoffs his rookie season?

[@rafboyv]

why do everyone forget about the texans game last year??

[@kiyanwest149]

Doesn’t fit their narrative

[@cartoontaj]

Yo i was saying that. They never bring it up

[@brandonmartinez9431]

What narrative a rookie quarterback that didn’t score one touchdown against the number one defense ? Or the fact that even with that game Lamar had thrown 6 tds 6 interceptions in 6 playoff games and lost to Josh Allen lol

[@princecheck11]

@@brandonmartinez9431 no one brought that up when josh allen smacked mac jones or mason Rudolph in the playoffs they praised him for his performance

[@kiyanwest149]

@@brandonmartinez9431 they waxing his carrot when he beat up on mason rudolph and Mac jones give me a break

[@breonmitchell2443]

Lamar jackson had 508 yards in playoffs vs Titans

[@thecptproject8184]

6 tds 6 Ints for Lamar, for Allen 21 tds 4 ints

[@taykitrleevitt4314]

Why do people compare QB stats when they're playing different schedules against different defenses...😂

[@Toxic_4041]

@@taykitrleevitt4314you want to be the best? Beat whatever team is in front of you

[@timkinley1779]

Lamar had the lowest QBR in the history of the NFL playoffs. Think about how many QBs have been in the playoffs and his QBR was all-time worst.

[@jefeseason4990]

@@timkinley1779lamar took the ravens who were 4-5 to the postseason his ROOKIE YEAR when they made the offense up MIDWAY THRU THE SEASON… do you even understand how difficult that is for one player to learn a offense then think all 11 have to learn that offense

[@toomanycarz001]

SAS was pressing Kim’s buttons soo bad with this subject that she had to turn and sit sideways lmao 😂😂

[@blackpanther1541]

That's bcuz he made her pee on herself...😂😂😂

[@black_sheep333]

Cuz he's annoyingly pedantic & skirts the main issue at hand....he just pronunciates his words good & has that love to hate vibe... he mentions how Allen's has played more playoff games (wild card cans) but doesn't highlight that maybe, PLAYING MORE GAMES. Ya know...might allow for better stats in said category? ...then acts like he didn't muddy up his own wanna be "dunk" by dismissing that? Lmfaooooo funny

[@reemieus8582]

@@black_sheep333 you're a goofball. the td:int ratio is in allen's favour by a mile for example. lamar's my favorite player but bro you cant sit here and tell me josh allen can really play any better than he has in the playoffs compared to my goat #8

[@Kidkinsey]

People be tryna say mahomes and Allen is the new brady manning but DONT be holding Josh to those standards. Josh is about to get the mvp the pressure is absolutely on him more then lamar

[@danielventura8118]

Josh has produced in the playoffs lmao 😂 His team collapses all the time on him…..Lamar threw a pick 6 against Buffalo in the divisional round lmao 😂

[@Kidkinsey]

@danielventura8118 he's a wild cart merchant. He's 1-4 In divisional games. He beats up on like Mason Rudolph, Mac Jones, Skylar Thompson etc

[@nickdehart7463]

@@Kidkinseyu forgot to mention Lamar he got W Vs Him as well lol

[@korReeS2]

@@Kidkinseyexactly

[@danielventura8118]

@ go look at his stats lmao 😂 he had one bad game against Cincy…..The other times his defense collapsed and his coaching fails him.Go watch the film.Lamar fails his team consistently in the playoffs Joes defense

[@goku8621]

Stephen A Smith turns into Stephen from Django when speaking on Lamar 😂

[@drb5003]

Clown of the century. He's mad because Lamar got his contract without an agent and if anything he should be praising that brother for doing that. 🤡

[@ChaYang-y3z]

​dude should've gotten an agent. There's a reason why everyone has an agent. You can't put your personal feelings into those negotiations. Let the professional do the negotiation and you just worry about getting yourself in shape and doing whatever you do.

[@gmane2704]

Stephen A Smith cooking Kimberly 🔥 🔥 🔥 she had nothing to say about that last part right LOL

[@malleygz3991]

He BBQ'd her and she was type tight at the end 😂. You could see she was heated (no pun) after SA cooked her well done. Next time come better prepared Ma 😅😅😅

[@Dawit-q7f]

Dude can’t even speak

[@mdeinc]

No he did not. He is just towing the line for the power structure.

[@blackpanther1541]

​@@mdeincShe got cooked stop it...😂😂😂

[@Kenuel-Chavis]

Kimberly got cooked so bad and I love it😭

[@mohamedalibaydoun]

She’s awful

[@kevinl8604]

​@@mohamedalibaydounshe's not awful and had really good points.

[@dariusharris3252]

​@kevinl8604 what points she made im lost the ravens has the better team if you put josh on the ravens they go undefeated it's simple u put lamar on the bills they might have more losses

[@bluemagic_3063]

@@dariusharris3252 Not true because Lamar didn’t have weapons until the last two years and still had great records.

[@xavierdsouza9693]

@@bluemagic_3063always had the better defense tho

[@NONOID786]

Kimberly got cooked 😂

[@Whywouldilacc]

They kilt her 😂

[@TheRoddie16]

That last point put her in coffin lol

[@blackpanther1541]

She got smoked 🚬 like a blunt...😂😂😂

[@shocksix]

She’s so bad at her job

[@Badmanbj]

She actually had good points. She’s just absolutely not a better debater than Stephen A

[@garedmcglothan4588]

SAS had Kimberly uncomfortable in that HOT SEAT!!😂😂😂😂

[@johnbatts6000]

He only had her uncomfortable cause he the boss.he double talking not making sense if winning rings matter n they both have no ring who cares Josh player good in the playoffs 3 years ago lol

[@Tomyohann]

Same amount of pressure for every QB that never won a Super Bowl.

[@brandonfletcher7173]

Nope , not true , derek carr & daniel jones never had pressure to win a sb . Certain qbs have that pressure and others dont . Its just how things work

[@angelc7554]

Yes, Lamar has more pressure, he’s 2-times MVP with the best team in football ( 8-pro bowlers), his productions in the playoffs is way worse than Josh’s (Lamar 6 TD 6 INT Josh Allen 21 TD 4 INT)

[@atraina6921]

@@angelc7554 How is a 12-5 team the best team in football? Nobody actually believes the Ravens should have that many it was a shock to all. Especially to the Chiefs.

[@danielventura8118]

You have 8 probowlers lmao 😂 the bills have 2 lmao 😂

[@211BGTV]

This year the bills have had a better roster up until this year especially wrs of course in the playoffs that matters

[@JediTiga]

Lamar literally needs a super team to even compete. I see people talking about the Ravens trading for Tyreek next. It's a terrible look that he can't win the post-season.

[@bobbymcdonald6121]

And still hasn't won. Y'all love to throw up numbers when it covenant for y'all. It okay Lamar Jackson has 2MVP. He has bigger fish to fried.

[@gabrielthebeliever1304]

Josh Allen had a way easier schedule than Lamar Jackson this season.

[@daswolio3204]

What? Buffalo played KC and Detroit 😭

[@erickarge1838]

@@daswolio3204buffalo played 11 teams under .500…. And they lost by 25 to Lemar who scored 4TD’s to Allen’s big fat ZERO. Lmao

[@Jordyrugby]

@@erickarge1838 Let’s see how they play in the postseason. Can’t wait to see Lamar go 1-1 again 😂

[@erickarge1838]

@ just like postseason has no effect on mvp voting neither does last year… Lamar gonna beat the phuck out of Pittsburgh… again… then hopefully the bills can beat the broncos (I think broncos will win) and then Lamar can show everyone what’s up and repeat the embarrassment he gave to Josh Allen weeks ago

[@jeremiahw1369]

By far, weaker division at the minimum. Even the Bengals are probably as good as the Chiefs and Lions when playing well. The schedule isn't close even if when two 1 seeds are on there, and so are the Ravens.

[@therlowfoy9738]

The worship of Burrow and Allen is so disheartening....

[@danielventura8118]

Or Lamar could actually produce in the playoffs.

[@aitchb8345]

Joe Burrow beat Mahomes and went to the SB and Josh Allen missed out on one because of a coin toss, Lamar massively underperformed in the playoffs… I hope he changes that this year but until he does, the “worship” is valid

[@markjefferies2544]

Do you watch the video? He has to show up in the playoffs. The rest have.

[@gj5990]

Are they the ones gifted MVPs? Are they the ones with MVPs then they no-show when it counts?

[@Blessed3569]

​@@danielventura8118Allen could have produced as well but didn't.

[@ayooago6428]

1:05 Last year against the Texans in the divisional round Lamar had 4tds 2 rushing and 2 passing no interceptions no fumbles WTH is mad dogg talking about? All of these “analysts” have selective memory when it comes to LJ8

[@L.S.1]

Exactly bro

[@TjFreely2]

Its was a rookie QB and HC

[@ayooago6428]

@ doesn’t matter Lamar did his thing that game

[@TjFreely2]

@@ayooago6428 it still wasn’t a memorable playoff moment Josh and mahomes have literally went Td for Td before didn’t care who defenses was on the field Lamar doesn’t have a memorable playoff moment other then that pick 6 vs the bills

[@jakieresykes3644]

@@ayooago6428Talk about the AFC Championship Game where he choked

[@acmll2890]

I'm convinced Kimberly nd Lamar are getting busy the way she comes to dudes defense

[@nathanjones4135]

Allen and Lamar are both generational QBs. Can we please stop acting like they aren’t, and just be patient with their careers. I’m sure that Allen will win a ring eventually, and I’m sure that Lamar will put together some great playoff games and win won as well.

[@MomentumMarketingTips]

And Burrow

[@peachydls341]

AFC is so competitive this year

[@_chris1998_]

Tbqh... Its been competitive for A LONG TIME

[@shocksix]

It’s gonna end with the same result tho. 3-peat

[@treybron3459]

@@_chris1998_and yet the same has been to the bowl 4 times in 5 years

[@Southern_Grown_Organics]

Did kimberly go the Joy route?

[@IsaacBenton-y4y]

Pretty much

[@tedrickboxley4122]

The 6 6 stat is misleading though. It excludes rushing tds and we all know rushing tds are so important to mention with ja in the mvp discussion

[@amgbenz0664]

No, it’s not misleading. Even if you want to include Lamars TD runs, then include his lost fumbles as well. It brings the total to 9 TDs, 9 Turnovers. Still garbage lmao

[@tedrickboxley4122]

@amgbenz0664 in totality you are correct but what is implied by the stat is that every playoff game he has played bad and they mention a game against tenn several years ago doesn't count as a good gm when he had 4tds and no turnovers against Houston last yr

[@amgbenz0664]

@@tedrickboxley4122 they bring up that game all the time, as an outlier. And it was also against a fringe playoff team that everyone knows has zero chance to make the Superbowl. When you take that game into consideration, it actually makes his playoff career look even worse. That means in all his other 5 playoff games combined, he has 5 TDs, 9 Turnovers and a 1-4 record. Thats like the worst drop-off in performance for a QB between regular and postseason, in NFL history.

[@l_money2157]

@@amgbenz0664 thats quite 5/6 Josh Allen playoff wins

[@amgbenz0664]

@@l_money2157 No one cares about “playoff wins” in specific. Your stats in games you lost are relevant to your individual performance too. Regardless who you lost to, it shouldn’t be with a 50% completion percentage, 1 TD and 2 Turnovers with you throwing the ball into triple coverage to seal the game. Keep making excuses for Lamar though, sht is hilarious 😂

[@johncyril4995]

Stephen A... triple 6 comment to Kimberly......emotional damage 🤣😂

[@Jcheatem6]

This show is kinda weird now. The inside jokes and fashion comments, we not here for that

[@lmgmtransportllc5518]

Then take your 🫏 somewhere else.. we already lost undisputed I don't agree with everything but dam be grateful we have this dude

[@darriuss4574]

@@lmgmtransportllc5518lol man shut up

[@darriuss4574]

That’s because they messing around. You didn’t know that about Molly and Stephen

[@tigerhoods7927]

This show been a circus for years now

[@robliberachi]

@@lmgmtransportllc5518bro calm down

[@Nextgenlensaz]

Josh Allen is battling the curse of Buffalo if he ever wins even one SB it's more impressive than Rodger's career

[@jayharris2918]

Here we go ravens fans love for bmore from New Orleans I love yall bruh it’s time again

[@600flo4]

Mannn they spank us everyday with these topics but appreciate you love back from Baltimore city

[@Trell5159-r2z]

Why is Kimberly always arguing the Lamar point, the worst analyst espn has. Where is Ryan Clark!

[@pirex6674]

But she's right on this one

[@JesusIsKing122]

I agree, she is always so annoying to listen to

[@QUARTERBACKYYYY]

you mad she’s right

[@kdr5d]

Where is RG3

[@Anonymous18227]

Kim, the other chick in this video & cynthia needs to be fired

[@Pantherarising]

Broncos are going to upset the Bills. You heard it here first. WATCH!

[@OFB-ow9ue]

I agree

[@JackGeezy]

This ain't 1997

[@Pantherarising]

​@JackGeezy so!

[@JackGeezy]

@@Pantherarising One and Done

[@jalenfrank7058]

I’ve been saying this too

[@MasterSlime03]

How Kim got caught up when Doggy mentioned Josh playing good against Pat and Lamar not is every Lamar fan 😂

[@ronbass2272]

Look what that got Borrow this year lol. An L is an L 😂

[@Shlki_thmpsn19]

What does it matter if he’s never beat him in the playoffs. We awarding home for ALMOST beating mahomes every year ?

[@larrymcmillanjr.4001]

It's amazing how far Lamar Jackson has come. The same guy that they said couldn't throw is now held to the highest standard and regarded as one of the top 3 qb's in the league. Not bad for a running back, right?

[@DavidLee-vp3nr]

Wowww a 2-time MVP is held to standards

[@larrymcmillanjr.4001]

@@DavidLee-vp3nr I'm merely marveling over that young man's journey. It's nothing short remarkable. Would you not agree?

[@DavidLee-vp3nr]

@@larrymcmillanjr.4001 that's fine.. hold to the same standards as other QBs. too much hand holding

[@thewanderer6388]

@@robf5236 OK, if you say so. I'll keep enjoying the Ravens winning each season with their glorified RB while your team keeps losing with your pro ready QB.

[@Will-2BMorePositive]

The pressure is on Josh now. Bills better win vs Denver!

[@Messigoat1033]

So basically according to Mad dog is Josh Allen has the ultimate free pass if he never wins the superbowl and the Bills get blamed but Lamar who mad dog constantly don’t even put top 5 gets criticized no matter what 😂

[@kevinarmendariz862]

It's not that he'll always get a free pass. People forget that the Bills are in a rebuild year. No one expected them to be this good, and some even expected them to miss the playoffs. The Ravens, on the other hand, only got better, and Lamar has also historically played bad in the post-season. I'm hoping he doesn't this time because I need somebody to beat the Chiefs if the bills don't make it far.

[@Messigoat1033]

@@kevinarmendariz862 Buddy leave that overused narrative for some casual. Bills were projected to win 10 games and ravens were 10 and half. This are facts: the projection also didn’t know Tua was gone be injured and the jets were gone suck so the whole bills weren’t expected to make the a playoffs narrative is fake and weak.

[@toomanycarz001]

@@Messigoat1033 💯

[@datboyk3261]

No he’s not basically saying anything like that. He’s only making comparisons between the two QB’s. He’s speaking facts on both sides of their performances in the playoffs and Allen has played much better considering he hasn’t been a MVP in his career yet. You guys love glazing Lamar’s donut stick just because Allen gets talked about the most. Let these guys be great and stop trying to hate on any of these great players.

[@datboyk3261]

Bro stop the cap. Bills were not projected to be 10-7 this season and the Ravens were projected to go all the way with the addition on Derrick Henry. ESPN analyst was projecting the Jets to win the division before Roger’s even played one snap lol. You sound like a hater towards the Bills and Allen because they actually had a better season than what people expected and Allen is doing this with much lesser talent on both sides of the team. Let Allen be great bro lol.

[@wnmgreg9805]

Can we please have these discussions with football guys like Marcus Spears or Dan Orlovski ????

[@IG.Lajet_]

They wont, its easy win the argument against her

[@stanleywarren129]

Kimberly is right tho. If most people consider Allen a better QB why isn't his expectations higher than Lamar? If you think someone is better then the amount of MVPs is irrelevant. Also, this is the first time Lamar has had a good receiving core. Last year Zay as a rookie was the best wr and before last year the receiving room was very poor.

[@Tray_0123]

It’s hard to say someone has more expectations than a 2x mvp when that player has 0. He was voted mvp 2 times one was unanimously and the other fell short by I think 1 vote.

[@stanleywarren129]

@Tray_0123 that's fine but as Kimberly said if there was a redraft and most would taken Allen over Lamar then regardless of MVPs we should expect more from Josh. If you think Lamar is better then you should expect more from Lamar.

[@amgbenz0664]

Last year Mahomes had a worse defense than Lamar, a worse running game, and his WR1 was also a rookie. He still won cause Lamar threw the ball into triple coverage with a chance to tie the game. Stop the excuses 😂

[@ronaldokhalifa8603]

@@amgbenz0664 that chiefs defense was still top 3. hence why both qbs had no scores in the second half. they were many other opportunities before that throw that werent lamars fault that ravens could have scored. regardless it wasnt a great showing by the ravens offense

[@ciaramorrow545]

​@@amgbenz0664 They just hate to admit Lamar just a regular Season pony nothing special when the playoffs hit josh Allen with that Baltimore team easy a Superbowl champion

[@danielgalan1920]

As a Chiefs fan, I’m sitting back really enjoying these convos & comments 🍿

[@blackpanther1541]

I bet you are u til Josh or Lamar beat the Chiefs in a couple weeks...

[@danielgalan1920]

@ & if they did, it will make for great television. Mahomes already has three 🏆 🏆 🏆 so it’s important for one of these guys to get one

[@blackpanther1541]

@danielgalan1920 Josh got next all trust...

[@danielgalan1920]

@@blackpanther1541 I hope so. Mahomes needs some real competition. He can’t continue being the only guy in his age range with Super Bowl trophies

[@phillysports2K]

Just became a Chiefs fan I bet lol

[@GodfreyTheCreator]

Crazy how one guy is always everyone's preseason pick for MVP, but the other guy has the most pressure. With that said, neither of them have been to the Superbowl, so lets just say it's equal

[@NvrmorequoththeRaven]

Pressure is on #8 no doubt.. I hope we can make a run.. only time will tell

[@DaveSingh-rn9du]

if lamar gets the mvp the pressure should be on him but they just gonna let the yt boy slide because he finally had a season where he didn’t throw 15 or more pick. i hope we make a run tho too ravens my squad

[@rayromo2470]

​@@DaveSingh-rn9duwhite and black 🙄 stfu with the race talk already. Who's the better player when it matters. The postseason! Only color that matters is gold go win it.

[@shocksix]

@@DaveSingh-rn9du Did you hear what Mad Dog & Stephen A say Allen performs great in the playoffs especially against Mahomes. He’s trusted. Doesn’t matter if he wins or loses the MVP. The Bills didn’t have high expectations before the season. Lamar doesn’t perform in the playoffs & didn’t perform against Mahomes. But, he’s the 2 time MVP. While Allen has none. The Ravens got Henry. That made them one of the favorites this season. That’s all the pressure.

[@davidutube8010]

Kimberley Ravensflock salutes you

[@Messigoat1033]

The Lamar haters and doubters comp when he wins it all gone be legendary Stephen A Mad Dog Nick Wright Acho Chase Daniel

[@tigera6]

and what if Lamar lose again this year, would you call each of those guy and apologize?

[@Messigoat1033]

@@tigera6He 28. If he doesn’t win the next 10 years then yes but I got planty of time. Trust he will win before Josh Allen. The video gone be legendary

[@danielventura8118]

I can’t wait till he loses to rub it in his Stan faces.

[@mistersunshine1330]

But they were never wrong. It's not like they said he sucks because of it, they still revere him in the regular season. ​@@Messigoat1033

[@deionjones24]

They gone move the goal post bro

[@calikid4328]

“That’s just a different subject for another day” 😂🤣😂🤣

[@stingabee123]

Pressure on both but more on Lamar. He's played so much worst in the postseason than during the regular season. His numbers drop greatly. And can't blame roster, he had a top 2 roster both last year and this year. Can't keep having this much talent around him and keep failing due to his bad play

[@ronaldokhalifa8603]

eagles, lions and vikings have the best rosters this year, top to bottom

[@thewanderer6388]

Didn't Buffalo beat KC and Detroit this season? How did they beat those superior teams with their sorry no talent roster? Who were those guys wearing Buffalo gear in those games? Buffalo has talent and many are trying to shield Allen from any blame if Buffalo should lose in the playoffs.

[@blkheart9971]

They keep pushing he’s the only 2x mvp that hasn’t won. NONE OF THEM WERE THIS YOUNG

[@Tray_0123]

Mahomes.

[@deionjones24]

Bruh these folks hard on my boy 😂

[@JG-ll5lf]

Bro don’t bring age into this. That ain’t no excuse. He’s been in the league for 7 years about to be 8. He has plenty of experience and still decides not to show up in the playoffs. Mahomes is just as “young” and has accomplished more.

[@Real1_448]

@@JG-ll5lfMahomes is the exception bro everyone knows he’s the best. Other than him no other young qb has won the SB out the new-age qbs. Lamar is right there

[@deionjones24]

@@JG-ll5lf comparing anyone to mahomes is idiocy

[@RyuujinLetum]

I love how Mad Dog always brings up the playoff game between Josh and Lamar but always leaves out the fact that the center did 6 horrible snaps that were game costing and caused him to be in concussion protocol

[@Alexisj1991]

💯💯💯 exactly

[@Mightylightsaber]

what about that pick 6

[@RyuujinLetum]

@@Mightylightsaber so? He has thrown pick sixes and destroyed teams after that

[@Mightylightsaber]

@@RyuujinLetumhe threw a pick 6 in that game in the red zone. So he cost his team

[@RyuujinLetum]

@Mightylightsaber again re read the comment would javelin came back like does plenty times and destroyed teams.

[@wpompeyjr]

I hate that they bring up the post season when we’re talking about the MVP. MVP is for the regular season not the post season! Cut it out!

[@JG-ll5lf]

But there’s a reason your getting voted as the MVP. The expectation is to carry that on over is it not?

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol they only do it when it comes to Lamar

[@underdogs3700]

@@JG-ll5lfit is actually NOT. It is a regular season award. Rodgers won back2back still didn’t get to the superbowl.

[@JG-ll5lf]

@@underdogs3700 which is why the award shouldn’t mean much in general. They should take post season into account as well. Rodgers didn’t do jack 💩 when he got those awards. It’s looking like the same thing with lamar. Being named mvp should put some pressure on you to perform well in the playoffs as well. That hasn’t been the case with Lamar, as good as he is in the regular season. And yes Aaron rodgers as well and whoever else u want to throw in there.

[@allonisaacs8765]

Stephen A. cooked the stats at the end!🔥🔥🤣🤣

[@cutonadime]

Josh Allen is likely to win the MVP this year. He’s historically been good in the playoffs, on top of the fact that he’s shown he can beat the number 1 seed in each conference this year, Chiefs and Lions. But he doesn’t have more pressure to win the Super Bowl this year?!😂😂

[@JDA89]

The MVP is a regular season award. Playoffs have no baring on it outside of whether your team made it.

[@TheGoat-mv1vw]

True but if you’re the most valuable player and voted the best in the league you have to perform in the postseason he shouldn’t have more mvps than playoff wins that’s embarrassing

[@JDA89]

@TheGoat-mv1vw then hold that against the voters. Lamar doesn't decide who gets the award.

[@TheGoat-mv1vw]

@ I know that but I’m saying he needs to perform in the postseason he’s about to have as many mvps as Tom Brady and nothing to show for it

[@JDA89]

@@TheGoat-mv1vw if you know that then you can't hold it against him as an argument.

[@cutonadime]

It doesn’t make sense. Why would the quarterback who people are arguing is better and has historically performed better in the playoffs not have more pressure to win the Super Bowl.

[@arielotero7685]

Because he doesnt have 2 mvps and has a stacked roster, the bills have lost key players and josh allen is still performing at a high level, lamar is trying to solidify his career as one of the greatest and the very few qbs that have multiple mvps and a super bowl ring, allen can win the mvp this year and get to a semi finals and thats a successful season for him. But next year he will have the pressure on him

[@cutonadime]

⁠@@arielotero7685 I disagree. Josh Allen is likely to win the MVP this year. He’s historically been good in the playoffs, Bills have shown they can beat the number 1 seed in each conference this year, Chiefs and Lions. #2 seed in the AFC. It’s Super Bowl or faliure.

[@thewanderer6388]

@@arielotero7685 Shielding Allen from any criticism should Buffalo lose. That sorry Buffalo roster beat KC and Detroit by luck I guest.

[@timothywilliams4942]

Why does Mad Dogs facial expression while waiting to speak always looks like he's constipated 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@fameneal9712]

Josh was drafted top 10… Lamar 32nd… and here we are asking who has more pressure to win

[@DougieDuels]

Stephan A thank you for calling out the racist

[@bluemagic_3063]

How is she racist when she clearly said she’ll choose Joe burrow out of the bunch ?

[@captainyami4605]

Mad dog said he couldn’t remember if Pat had a MVP?? He won it two years ago…..this dude is barely holding on

[@LDJ.203]

He didn’t say he couldn’t remember, he said MAHOMES NEVER WON IT” and Molly says THATS A GREAT POINT SMH

[@Mightylightsaber]

The bills was suppose to win in that 13 second left game but their coach didn't coach right. Last year diggs dropped the game sealing catch. I mean what else allen was supposed to do

[@koalabearkhan145]

Faxx

[@Isaiah4129]

We mention Henry making this year for Lamar yet we ignore Josh had a Helluva offense with all his success. He was a BUST before Diggs got there! This Goal post move more than a nomad when it comes to Lamarvilous!

[@PokeChampionHQ]

13:39 😂😂😂😂 I think that was on purpose 😂😂😂😂

[@alieyesonme247]

Kimberly you just hit him with the most cold hard facts about neither one of them having super bowls and he showed on national TV how upset he got when you did that LOL good job girl

[@CamRader]

Get Kimberly off this show. She never makes any bold takes. Her statements lack creativity and I feel I get dumber every time I listen to her.

[@OwskiiiGaming]

Agree with Stephen A

[@rasmathi777]

I like arguments with points good content on this one

[@AnthonyTaylorJr210]

People bring up how bad the Bills were supposed to be like the expectation hasn’t changed. The Steelers are a prime example of a team who exceeded our expectations, but our perception of them has not changed. The Bills are Super Bowl contenders now, and if they lose in the 2nd round, it should not be seen as they over achieved, it should be seen as they failed. Just the same as the Chiefs and the Ravens. Josh isn’t playing with house money.

[@ronaldokhalifa8603]

ppl forget that the bills have also had a contending team for the past 5 years, but have fallen short to mahomes and burrow 😅 allen needs to also win otherwise hes looking to be another philip rivers

[@johnlittle5267]

I guess everyone is hearing different things. But facts don’t differ. The Ravens have a better squad, and Allen has played a better season than Lamar. If you want to talk stats, then the 2 years Lamar won MVP Allen had better stats one of those years and other QBs crushed him the other year yet he still won both. Lamar has more pressure to win, because he has been crowned and given flowers for doing less than those who haven’t received either yet.

[@bluemagic_3063]

Um not really because the others just like him have no rings. I don’t care if you played great or bad in the playoffs because it’s about winning not great individual games.

[@HjjMaker]

Lmfao another white mf that sounds dmb 3 wins against 500 or above teams in 16 games is on saying a better season mf love to skip over that

[@johnlittle5267]

@ Lamar has a 2-4 playoff record, he also has the worst stats for a playoff QB in NFL history. You don’t know what you are talking about, just go back to watching female sports.

[@HjjMaker]

@@johnlittle5267 you work a 9 to 5 and are broke you do t know what your talking about his playoff record can and probably will change

[@johnlittle5267]

@ 9 qbs have 2 MVPs, all but Lamar have a Super Bowl win. He is ranked dead last among all playoff QBs since 2000. Record as a starter: last Completion %: last Pass yds per attempt: last TD %: last Sack %: last Passer rating: last Succes rate: last The Truth. The Facts. That’s all anyone needs to bring others down.

[@skateboardinpjdj]

Kimberley is back on vacation yesss!

[@tydavis101]

It’s fine if they want to put more pressure on Lamar than Josh. I just wish they’d admit they’re holding a player they believe is better to a lower standard. They believe Josh is better yet will not give him the accountability of that

[@keithbenjamin9156]

🎯…yea they just kinda Just wanna premeditate Lamars Downfall..so they can say told you so..

[@thewanderer6388]

@@keithbenjamin9156 that's SAS play every year.

[@IVMON3Y]

Always hatin on Lamar, mention Josh Allen too! They're both incredible QBs with no Superbowls, pressure is on both

[@claudeporter1515]

I love Steven, A Sports isn't the same without him

[@teamjesusmikee.2655]

This is Jackson year ! All the way to the Bowl

[@treybron3459]

That playoff choker is not beating Allen or Mahomes

[@teamjesusmikee.2655]

@ Destiny!

[@JG-ll5lf]

@@teamjesusmikee.2655 once again Lamar can’t do enough

[@jclark4088]

Yall talking MV3 and dude doesn't even have 3 playoff wins 😂😂

[@Shlki_thmpsn19]

Until this year Lamar has only played one wild card game and he was a rookie… He skipped the wild card round twice Cz he led his team to the #1 seed. Josh Allen has inflated numbers cz he beats up on weak teams in the wild card round

[@jclark4088]

@Shlki_thmpsn19 hes 1-1 in the wildcard round

[@Shlki_thmpsn19]

@ yea the loss came in his rookie year after only starting 7 games prior to that wild card game lol. Ravens were literally 4-6 before he started over flacco and took them to win 6 out of the next 7 games. Did Josh make the playoffs his rookie year ?

[@jclark4088]

@Shlki_thmpsn19 yeah and you said he only played one wildcard game and it was when he was a rookie, he's played 2 wildcard games lol. Your leading argument is just factually wrong

[@IsaacBenton-y4y]

Facts 😂

[@CoFrom254]

Stephen A sounds stupid. Lamar is the MVP. It's a REGULAR SEASON award. Stop with the playoff BS. Why is it that we dont talk about Allen getting benched this year..

[@blackpanther1541]

WHEN???CLOWN...

[@Deadpool19917]

So the argument is "Lamar scored less than 20 points"...... SO DID MAHOMES! THE SCORE WAS 17-10! And if we're gonna say that 13 seconds wasnt Allens fault then Zay fumbling the game away isnt Lamar's fault. Both have 0 superbowls both have 0 AFC titles. What am I missing?

[@Mightylightsaber]

so added that bonehead pick in triple coverage

[@ajhibbler7096]

“Health is wealth and my body is a temple, so I take care of it deal with it.” -Molly humbling SAS 😂😭

[@kslime91]

As a Chiefs fan, I think Josh has more pressure this year. The media kept building him up saying this is his MVP year. it’s Super Bowl or bust for him this year.

[@The_ch0sen0ne5]

i still dont understand this logic of that being the reason for him to have more pressure than the reigning 2x mvp (projected to win his third back to back and only being 1 of 2 qbs to do it)

[@kslime91]

@ because we know what Lamar is in the playoffs. He just can’t get it done. Do we honestly have any other expectation then, he’s probably going to fall short until he changes it. But Josh, we always keep saying he’s the manning to Patrick Mahomes and this and that. This year he’s elevating his team playing at an MVP level with no diggs, no Gabe Davis no true superstar player. The media is basically giving him the MVP already. It’s Super bowl or bust or if not that we have to start putting him in the same category as Lamar.

[@The_ch0sen0ne5]

@@kslime91 to some extent you’re right but also wrong. Yes in that aspect Josh Allen should have more pressure built onto him coming to the playoffs. However the the bigger picture should be that the player who accomplished more than 99% of qb’s within the past 5/6 years the way Lamar has done it SHOULD play better to his standard within the regular season. I don’t think Allen is that far off from Lamar as it pertains to his standards and the pressure he has. Peyton manning himself was in a similar situation like this and the media scrutinize him for it. To some extent it is a shame Allen haven’t won mvp still. If he won it this year than the argument would be different you see what I mean? Lamar constantly underperforming when it matters the most is more to the reason why we should expect him to play better as opposed to to him in reg season

[@kslime91]

@@The_ch0sen0ne5yeah I get that, but I’m talking more about this year but what you said about Lamar career wise I agree with you, he’s a underachiever for all the stuff he’s accomplished and the MVP’S won, and the Peyton Manning comparison is how I feel about Lamar 100%. But I do believe media lets Josh get away with less criticism, especially. When a lot of people in media will say they’ll choose him as the second best quarterback or just choose him over Lamar, and if Josh wins MVP and loses this year then he’s got to be put in the same category as Lamar both underachieving. I feel they’ve both had good opportunities to go to the Super Bowl and both have fell short one way or another.

[@The_ch0sen0ne5]

@ I do agree Josh should get a lot of criticism. Him and Joe burrow been left off the hook all those times the media were praising Josh Allen but they come up with excuses. Hoenstly tho I wouldn’t call Lamar an underachiever that’s a bit harsh lol he has way more football left in him for the foreseeable future. But as it pertains to both qb’s at some point they have to win it all. Even if they have to go up agsisnt the reigning defending sb champs themselves

[@FullbackRoom]

SAS is a good old boy 😂

[@erickarge1838]

Stephen A so stupid he just said the losses Buffalo took had nothing to do with the way Allen played, yet he had zero TD’s against the ravens while Lamar had 4 in that game bahahaha. Ravens lost games this year from THEIR KICKER. They lost all their games by a combined 22 points total. They beat Allen and the Bills by 20 phuckin five. Lmaooooo

[@blackpanther1541]

Allen wasn't on the field when D.Henry ran 86 yards, so that's not on him plus Josh already beat Lamar in the playoffs, so what you saying!!!

[@jakeblabbers]

@@erickarge1838 HEY BUDDY REMEMBER SAYING THIS?

[@AVENGEMCNABB]

To all the Allen haters. No one is saying Lamar is a scrub or doesn’t deserve to be considered Elite, he’s a 2x MVP, obvi he is Elite. It’s just that his regular season performance is vastly diff than his postseason while Allen seems to kick it up a notch, esp against KC. Yes both Allen and Lamar dont have a SB, but how often have we looked at Bills loss in playoffs and said it was bcuz of Allen, they lost? When BAL loses, it’s always Lamar

[@stobo7182]

He's never beaten KC in the playoffs...

[@stobo7182]

Dude his rookie wr fumbled the ball in the goal line...

[@EDubbz17]

These ppl r delusional bruh. They never pay attention to what ppl did AROUND Lamar. Dropped passes and blown coverages everywhere. Yes hes missed a few passes but who hasnt? And the o line was TERRIBLE every other time the ravens been to the playoffs. Ntm hes NEVER had a #1 wr option. Last year was the best they been offensively and they sold. This year is gonna be different and they will see when their dead cuz they chose Josh Allen, they shouldve picked Lamar.

[@davidutube8010]

Lmao they’ll continue talking about this segment as long as it get them clicks

[@tigerhoods7927]

Stephen a is the reason cause he hates Lamar every chance he gets

[@mauricebastian3732]

SAS, it’s the money sir! Not you, Lol

[@HeadsUpSportsShow]

Best of luck to Josh in the playoffs rooting for the Bills like no other! 🙌🏻

[@ShutThePuck]

Kimberly needs to come up with a better argument, she's been eviscerated on this topic

[@JPPettway24]

She gets mad over anything Stephen A says smh

[@LDJ.203]

Mad dogg said on NATIONAL TV that Patrick Mahomes has never won MVP before! Does he have amnesia or Alzheimer’s disease???

[@jordanwysingle112]

When u black u gotta do more… at ur job, on d court, on d field, etc… we know what it is…

[@altobia1439]

Mahomes, Wilson, CJ - nobody defends them like they do Lamar - aren't they all black?

[@twofour2278]

hope these 2 meet in the 2nd round so we can get this debate about who better is over😂

[@ZitusLupidus]

13:08 she is so stuck and pissed yo lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chrisrenshaw6372]

Kimberly will always make excuses for Lamar Kimberly is clearly a race baiter

[@austinburwell5834]

Both Lamar and Allen are protected

[@mdeinc]

You are a race baiter. But actually it is always about race. I never heard the type hate for any White quarterback in the last 30 years. If a white quarterback had the stats as Lamar all this would not be even discussed.

[@chrisrenshaw6372]

@ nope I’m just calling it how it is Kimberly. All she ever does is make excuses for Lamar Jackson, even though he does come up short in the playoffs. Same thing she does for dak Prescott

[@darrellvice2010]

​@@chrisrenshaw6372do you ever quit complaining?

[@mdeinc]

@@chrisrenshaw6372 She is not making excuses for Lamar. What she is pointing out those who are hypocritical because other QBs are not scrutinized the same way. In my opinion it is systematic by the mainstream media. Lamar do not fit the prototypical NFL QB. But individuals like myself who played the position understands what he is doing inspire others from his community to strive for greatness no matter the odds. As a result, it scares the power structure so he must be torn down. It even started before he played one down in the NFL when scouts were saying he should be moved to WR. Now he has done things no other QB has done. Such as 4 perfect games, 41 passing TDs and 4 ints (3 wasn't his fault), all time leading QB rusher, etc. So only thing they can do to tear him down is talk about playoffs wins. They never said that about other QBs to my knowledge. So she is pointing that out.

[@nickwilson6393]

I’m tired of Kimberly babying Lamar Jackson every week. Her points are terrible

[@princecheck11]

how

[@coonnfriend]

She usually suck off Josh Allen I'm surprised

[@tonygreen4856]

@@princecheck11he’s not good in the playoffs he’s jus not

[@princecheck11]

@ most of his playoff games was before 2021 recently he has been good

[@blackpanther1541]

And that's why she got cooked...😂😂😂

[@19934]

SA on a power trip

[@keykeyblazeroyce1742]

Where is this energy for burrow missing the playoffs

[@Judahscattered4corners-d4g]

We all know Mahomes winnin 3 in a row. All this is talk is for 2nd and 3rd place

[@ourayharper8883]

They stay creating excuses for Josh

[@blackpanther1541]

THEN WHY SHE DIDN'T HAVE NO COMEBACK INSTEAD OF GETTING COOKED LIKE A SALENS HOTDOG ON NATIONAL TV. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Shot4ShotSports]

Why the pressure not on Josh Allen he was the 7th overall pick 😂

[@Dankdaddytyty]

Lamar Jackson is a 2 time MVP, Why shouldn't the pressure be on him? That's more impressive than being a 7th overall pick but yet still has no superbowls