It's a NEW ERA in the NFL 🗣️ - Dan Orlovsky on Aaron Rodgers & the Jets' offense | Get Up

Dan Orlovsky, Jason McCourty, Kimberley A. Martin and Harry Douglas join Mike Greenberg on Get Up to preview Thursday Night Football featuring the New York Jets and the New England Patriots. Then, they go through some QB quick reads and discuss Mel Kiper Jr.'s take on the popular two high safeties formation.
0:00 Stephen A. Smith's take
0:40 Dan says it's a new time in the NFL
3:51 Should Justin Fields stay the starter?
4:23 Should the LA Rams trade Matthew Stafford?
4:53 Should Bryce Young ask for a trade?
5:19 Dan explains the 2 high safety formation
9:40 Mel thinks 2 high safeties "should be outlawed"
11:41 Jason disagrees with Mel
13:00 Dan thinks there are ways around it
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[@ProfessionalsProfessional]

I don’t know what Kiper is talking about. They continue to change the rules to aid the offense. For once let the offense figure it out.

[@RobbieStacks90]

College football and the NFL were better when targeting was allowed. You had to be a grown man to catch a pass in traffic downfield, not some 160lb punk.

[@limitedbom2206]

They changed the rules so defenses can’t smother receivers. Defenses figured it out and learned to play back to limit receivers. Now they want to say you can’t play that far off? If they put in a rule to get rid of 2 high safety, they better give back the ability to aggressively press receivers. You can’t just take everything away from defenders so offenses can score 50 points a game. This is absurd.

[@axe2grind244]

It’s almost like the NFL doesn’t want teams with elite QB’s to have an advantage, which is absurd.

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol these clowns mad that defense got better

[@AnalogWolf]

Agreed. The high safety look (also, thank you Dan for explaining it so well!) has been around forever. The offense will have to adjust. It is one thing to make rules to benefit player safety, it's another thing to tell the defense "nah, you've done too good a job adjusting to the high output passing offenses".

[@AL.BUNDY.]

Mel has never played the sport. He is proclaiming to former players his idea is the way to go. Mel is clueless. Did u see his face when the players were telling him to run the ball on Cover 2? U can tell he had no idea running the ball was how to beat it. Mel is old. His ideas are outdated.

[@musclejimfitness4418]

Funny enough, they ran the ball more back in his days too, smh

[@connorrobinson7980]

Mel’s already smoking his special draft day blend

[@TheVishaq]

I lol'd

[@MURKGOAT860]

The defense might as well not even exist

[@yahcrack]

I’m a eagles fan and at the end of the game it was like the defense wasn’t even on the field at the end of the falcons game 😂

[@ShawnReed-ny1hd]

​@@yahcrackCousins looked like Montana on that drive 😂

[@dubnation1360]

Literally half the episode is talking about defense being in the best spot it’s been in 20 years idk what your yapping abt

[@MURKGOAT860]

@@dubnation1360 rule changing to further benefit the offense is my point

[@BoomorBust]

Every other year they talk about two high like it is some revolutionary defensive concept 😂

[@Jake76787]

It sounds so silly to outlaw it. Like this is such a basic defensive thing to do.

[@swriley444]

Lol! Yea Mel is silly

[@Fre3_Smok3]

Two high safeties mean it’s time to pay the runningbacks a holes

[@EthanHinde]

Exactly, time to bring back smash mouth football, I’m glad the Chargers are playing the way they are so far

[@zeppelinmexicano]

Not time to bring back the running game, it's time to tinker with the rules again so that Olympic sprinters have the edge on the defense. Know what else? If I had a fricking nickel for every time Brady killed a defense down the seam I'd be rich. Where are marvelous QBs with the accuracy to play that kind of ball and make a defense pay? We need to stop thinking that running QBs are the biggest deal since sliced bread.

[@infinity558mippy8]

Outlawing 2 high safeties is insane when all the rules are catered to offensce and offensive players are allowed to push off or do tbings that give them an advantage more than defensive players

[@axe2grind244]

It nullifies elite QB’s though. Teams with top 5 QB’s are supposed to have an advantage, that’s how all sports work. This would be like MLB telling teams they can’t have pitchers throwing over 100. The NFL is best when QB’s are throwing for 5k yards.

[@infinity558mippy8]

@axe2grind244 It's hard to say that when even back then top 5 qbs didn't on the regular throw for 5,000 yards I feel like it'll interchange once teams start running the ball more forcing the safeties to roll down or no safeties at all there'll be more opportunities for deep passing plays and if you notice the undefeated teams right now most of them all run the football extremely well which allows them to pass the football like the Bills with Allen like the Texans with CJ like the Saints Derek Carr where the yds per attempt is high bc there able to run the football then use play action to take more deep shots

[@seanhyland4228]

​@@axe2grind244 The bigger problem today is there aren't very many elite Passers in the league anymore. Mahomes is about the only one, and an old Aaron Rodgers. Guys like Allen, Lamar, etc are elite athletes but not elite Passers. Back when we had guys like Brady, Manning, Brees, Rothelisberger, etc. in the league they would have eaten this 2 deep coverage alive by taking 8 yard completions over and over and over all the way down the field. More guys deep means less guys underneath. The QB's today are not good enough Passers or patient enough to pick apart this defense

[@hoeelander]

@@axe2grind244well those qbs best get better!

[@nathanstruble2177]

My guy elite QB's beat Cover 2, it's one of the fundamental coverages you need to be able to beat to be a QB at all, much less elite.

[@dandoo5657]

This is the dumbest conversation in football. I don't think we should allow someone to call themselves an expert on player evaluation, and also allow them to have this much of an absolutely brain-dead take.

[@Shot4ShotSports]

Swear Nobody scammed the sports world like Mel Kiper 😂. Gets paid to say nothing

[@kenmorris8219]

In my 33 years of breathing, not once has Mel Kiper ever made real logical sense on any subject. At this point I can genuinely question why he is constantly included on stuff.

[@Shot4ShotSports]

@@kenmorris8219 not once I don’t get it either 😂

[@RedTShirtMedia]

He doesn't know what he is talking about. He is a guy who has never played the game but knows what is best for it. lol

[@alaningram2373]

this is the first time ive heard Kiper scream at the clouds

[@rashondemond]

Problem with some of these analysts is nobody is saying Aaron needs to throw for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDS. Dan is right however with his point in the Titans game. He didn’t need to throw for a bunch of yards especially when the run game was working, however what I noticed the first two weeks against NY is teams aren’t just running the ball because the run defense is suspect, they are doing it chewing clock to keep Rodgers from taking over a game. He’s 40 years old but these defensive coordinators aren’t fools. He doesn’t have to throw for 300+ yards every game, that wasn’t even expected from Manning or Brady. I watched some of that game while at work Rodgers was making some great throws and didn’t have to do too much.

[@blancospalate]

These poor excuses for journalists just did an entire segment on "outlawing 2-high safties" ... ESPN, you make me laugh.

[@TrestanSKYWALKR]

Whenever the defense figures out what offense is doing they always change the rules to help offense! HOW ABOUT OFFENSE BE CREATIVE AND FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO EXPLOIT THE DEFENSE!!!

[@tigerhoods7927]

lol facts but they don’t want that they only care about stupid ratings and viewership

[@nochilllwill]

they’ll get it together in the coming weeks, the real problem is the overhyped rookies

[@marckusduverger9776]

Thank you! It’s their job to figure it out, stop trying to force it & let them grow

[@JamalB21]

Stop trying to handicap the defense, we are now tired of the league babying the offense now

[@danielehiagwina]

Outlaw a defensive play? Wth is Kiper talking about? So your idea is to continue to cripple the defence? What a useless idea! Let's not forget that most of the QBs we have today prefers to run more. Hence, no more elite QB passing plays. Instead of banning a defensive play, how about coaches coach QBs better.

[@worken360]

New era??😅😂 The jets will be lucky to win 7 games. Its time for Rodgers to retire.

[@rickycruz3845]

the best way to neutralize the 2 high safeties IS run the ball down the middle , do that for 2 Quarters and defensive coordinators gonna bring the safeties in and remove nickel or dime package for more LBs

[@Kaffeesir]

there are reasons why this season is dominated by running plays...

[@proudliberal605]

As a Seahawk fan, I will make the following predictions. 1) The Patriots will run the ball down the throat of the Jets, and they will not be able to stop it. 2) Rogers will not statistically surpass what Geno Smith did last week. I have complete respect for this Patriot team. They will smash you in the mouth.

[@AMileHiii93]

Can’t believe they’re even entertaining this disgusting convo. Kiper’s football card should be revoked after this.

[@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn]

The music in this clip is too loud. I can barely hear Orlovsky

[@hunterhyde1945]

Mel Kiper be like "they should outlaw offensive pass interference! Let those WRs go get the ball, less penalties = more fun and more big plays"

[@nathanstruble2177]

I got you covered Mel, here's the plan. Only 7 men on defense, wearing cement shoes like they crossed the wrong mob boss, and oversized helmets that slowly spin around covering their vision 60% of the time.

[@hunterhyde1945]

@@nathanstruble2177 that's really how they be sometimes

[@TaylorBurringtonify]

Mel Kiper sounds like Frank Caliendo playing Mel Kiper

[@HappyEddyMcGuire]

Greeny and SAS like most sports media only talk caveman QB. Zero understanding of the mental manipulation game at the LOS in which Aaron is a master. Probably the best ever. See the Gruden breakdown of this game. You're welcome!

[@vondongaming]

If 2 high safety such a problem run the ball

[@saifdin3508]

Why stop there? Let’s outlaw cornerbacks too

[@nathanstruble2177]

At this point we may as well just have it be 11 on 9

[@srenik6768]

Why does this talk even happen, Tom brady has been making these reads and throws for almost his entire career but when Arron Rodgers is asked to do the same role, he is bad or isn't doing what he is asked to do. He was brought to the jets to win football games.

[@aidabsmith8457]

Bro, stop catering to the offense. All these casual fans just want to see td, there more to the game of football than just scoring, thats what makes the game of football the ultimate team sport

[@nathanstruble2177]

Exactly, Basketball exists if I want to see non-stop offense. I can still find Harlem Globetrotters games if I really want a show. Let guys hit each other.

[@isiahnelsoniv]

this is a fact and I played WR in college

[@christianmaas8934]

Good defense is amazing to watch, people need to crawl out of their short attention span fantasy mindsets and enjoy the game for what it it.

[@johnboy1760]

So he wants to penalise defences for being effective and adapting to rules that already heavily favour offences… Why not just insist CBs play with their shoelaces tied, that’ll allow wide outs to have explosive plays

[@Illustrator76]

I get what Mel is saying in that we want to see explosive plays and not the same vanilla dink-and-dunk offenses being used, but he's literally talking about telling a defense what kind of formations they can run...that's crazy 🤣.

[@mattgibney4085]

That jets defense is not what people think

[@Ralphysp3c]

They lost alot of big pieces. Johnson, Huff, JFM, Mosley

[@charlieguzior]

That is a ridiculous statement from Kiper.

[@mattcarberry368]

please everybody STOP talking about Bryce Young just needing to get out of Carolina to thrive... like yes, the Panthers obviously have a LOT of holes, they suck (thanks Tepper) but Bryce literally can't even throw bubble screens and quick outs properly, he's SO BAD to the point where it's literally impossible to even evaluate other players on the offense... the Panthers have a TOP 5 pass blocking o-line this season and WRs who Andy Dalton was able to make look decent in his one start last season... Bryce drags this team down so much further, he's short, thin, soft arm, not fast, no vision, bad reads, he dances on his tippy toes in the pocket and LITERALLY JUMPS to throw a slant over the middle because he can't see LOL this has been a joke from the start

[@stevenvargas4800]

Ok “Matt” (I know it’s you Andy)

[@mattcarberry368]

@@stevenvargas4800 lol nah Andy Dalton sucks too, but after over a year of watching Bryce Young literally *anything* is an improvement

[@Emp2014]

Agreed.

[@saadsalman2261]

You put any rookie in that situation and they is trash how you blaming the qb when the org hasn’t done nothing to help him

[@Jeremy_Black92]

Bryce didn't have any of these issues coming out of college. It's one thing for your weaknesses to stay the same in the transition. It's a different thing to become bad at things you weren't bad at before. It's very safe to say the Panthers ruined him. A change of scenery is needed.

[@divinecomedy7311]

I like how offense always has to have the rules changed to help them, offensive coaches gotta be the dumbest guys in football acc to the league, they can't do anything for themelves without rule changes apparently

[@nathanstruble2177]

In fairness, the saying "the dumbest guy on any football team is the OC" exists for a reason, but you right. We need to stop catering to the Offense.

[@scotttomatz6861]

For the life of me why do people even look at Mel Kiper as an expert? He is the least credible commentator in the NFL.

[@Smiththebat]

He’s a draft analyst and has always been.

[@scotttomatz6861]

@@Smiththebat A terrible draft analyst at that. You should really look at how bad he has been. That is why I commented on why are you even talking to this clown.

[@johnnyvansguard869]

You can tell Mel has never played a down of football in his life by saying they should outlaw 2 high safeties.

[@dangerzone9747]

Aaron Rodgers is a game manager now. This is reality.

[@victorallen5028]

Mel might be going senile 😂

[@duanecuster7166]

Sometimes I wish Mel would hush. You can’t aim for wins but use the 70s, 80s and 90s as a proctor. The moment a coach is successful on defense all of sudden they have to pull back back because Terry Bradshaw is upset cause it doesn’t look like his era. Stop it. And I’m 47. How can you every year brag about the next up and coming O coordinators but only because D coordinators hold back and dumb down their coverages to please freakin smell Kiper Jr

[@hunterhyde1945]

I would stop watching Football if they outlawed 2 high safety

[@Dacoldest23]

I agree 100000%

[@kaordon504]

Send Mel Kiper to the retirement home... its been a good career

[@timobrien4634]

BS. Don’t like 2 high safeties? Run the ball and get the d out of it…

[@TTRoachy]

This is football, offenses have to adjust to what they see the defense doing

[@redsox0213]

I get Kiper wants offensive explosive plays but he then names players from eras that the offenses were that explosive 🤣. I think by like week 4 offenses will be better, since most starting offenses had no reps really preseason. Also when the podcast clip came up I swear I thought it was a Frank Caliendo clip 😂

[@joshuap935]

2 high can be ran on, problem is teams have been built to throw, not run so most teams are at a disadvantage all of a sudden.

[@AerForz1]

LOL @ 60 million dollar QBs need help from the f*cking officiating legislators to aid them in passing the ball down the field against 2 high safeties. "MoSt ValUable pOsiTion"

[@barrybondshomerunking6778]

They need to do a qb camp like the TEs with Tom and Peyton in charge

[@adersonst7]

I think this really convinced me that Mel knows nothing about football. His draft projections were already questionable, however, this confirmed to me that he literally knows nothing.

[@laymanvisual]

The part that they aren’t talking about is the actual players that fit that offensive scheme

[@jdtalks8023]

Dan the two high safety look is a great disguise you can play cover 2, cover 4or man with two high safeties, drop a robber and more.

[@noelv1976]

I'm more annoyed by the illegal formation calls. It literally cost a team a touchdown.

[@adamalbert164]

This is getting out of hand ESPN.. Mel is on a new planet this time

[@marckusduverger9776]

Dan Orlovsky was awesome this segment!

[@FamilyGaming94]

Last time I checked, the defense is supposed to stop the offense. Even with these garbage rules to aid the offense, the defense is still doing there job. Let it go.

[@edutainme7265]

DO is awesome. Tom has a year of tape that Aaron can watch and teach to everyone else about what works.

[@1muneymic]

They run the football in every era Mel go cover college football

[@musicthings27]

i actually learned somthing watching this

[@closequarters4575]

Kiper is embarrassing 😂

[@gameon2081]

Kiper "What about just 9 defensive players? 😂

[@sleigh4019]

This is moronic .. Few years ago Brady and JE eat up the middle of the field against that defense so adapt .. Mel's a clown

[@Scott-ji2tu]

If i could figure out a way to bottle the "it was better back in my day" juice and sell it to people my age and older, I'd be a trillionaire

[@knytrix]

"You don't have precision QB play because they are so dynamic." That smells awfully racist.

[@josephcruz4172]

He doesn’t have to be MVP Aaron Rodgers but he has to be better than every Jets QB the last 15 years. That’s what you’re paying him to do

[@TalkingToTheBirds]

“I want things to be how I like them, it’s all about what I want.” That’s every older generation who can’t stop crying about everything.

[@themoneyman1752]

I agree with Mel Kiper I think safeties should only be allowed to line up 10 yards off the ball Max

[@AppalachianRedRoots]

That Achilles injury is a 100% athleticism killer

[@robrol8365]

Rodgers is too old, it won't end well with the Jets !!!!

[@corey9313]

Rodgers IS part of a New Era and that is he is the last of the old generation holding his team and coaches back. The New Era is this new generation of kids coming in with different egos and bringing new athletics to the game, i.e. Stroud, Caleb Williams, Fred Warner, TJ Watt, Mahommes, JJ.

[@dominicanheat2790]

Get your haircut into this century pal

[@dmartig1]

They should just give the WRs a 5 second head start, right Mel?

[@randyridley5143]

Oh, they want them to play catch. Not football 🙄

[@ke3yl0w8]

Yeahh Mel had me confused there, he was bringing up old school QBs and playstyles as if they were averaging 25-30pts a game while throwing 300yrds

[@HughsReviews]

All I want to know, why did the NFL schedule a QB that’s coming off an Achilles injury to play in 3 games in 11 days? It’s like they want him to get hurt again so the media can keep shitting on the Jets fans.

[@divinecomedy7311]

mel kiper gotta be the first guy who never played football to get cte

[@Smiththebat]

Mel is just being a sensationalist with this one.

[@randomdude12370]

You do know you can run the ball right Mel? Not everything needs to be 70 yard bombs. The league already swings towards the offensive side, let them figure it out. Good defense is fantastic to see

[@Manderenn]

So let’s limit the defense even more? How about this, the NFL can make the rule but let’s bring hitting back into the game. Since Mel is about the NFL being “exciting”

[@Regularguy92]

True, trade offs are inevitable

[@brandonsanders2767]

Remove the hit drop tackle but bring back the big hits. Like I want to see some Troy P, ed reed, RC, Dawkins, Lewis type hits.

[@EricDavidFloyd]

Ask JJ if he is worried about two high safeties? As Randy Moss if he was worried about two high safeties? Ask cheetah as well. My point....stop complaining and be better. Or you can RUN THE BALL. Wow - how novel!

[@nickbarber2046]

You can’t make the game where all the rules are for the offense. These offenses need to scheme better

[@CalebsCars]

Kiper is the worst, how does he have a platform

[@JacobEisenberg-d4u]

Someone gotta teach Dan how to tie a tie

[@Ludalee08]

Mels out of his mind for this, might as well play offense against nothing lmao

[@cmartin7052]

Mel's right, run game is hampered down with petty holding calls. If I was a Def. Coordinator for a team I'd let the team run, go ahead and get all those holding flags 😂

[@XxDarknessProjectXx]

The falloff of the jets defense is real. They are at least top 20 compared to last year top 5

[@king_charlie]

we are not banning 2 high safeties. offenses need to come up with more creative plays to combat against this, that's all!!

[@nathanstruble2177]

Right!?? Just put a lead blocker in, even a TE can just bully the 2 high safety look

[@ForgedCalamity]

ESPN is beating dead horse with the Steelers qb topic.

[@joshuahodge8804]

Can ESPN stop trying to make Fields a thing. He’s not good, Jesus.

[@mattcarberry368]

well compared to Russell Wilson he's ok i guess lol🤷‍♂

[@joshuahodge8804]

@@mattcarberry368 Russ hasn’t played yet, so there isn’t anything to compare him to. If you want to go by body of work, Russ clears Fields easily.

[@bodilly6221]

@@joshuahodge8804things change

[@Orangemangood53]

@@joshuahodge8804 if Russ was still that guy more teams than Pittsburgh would have been interested in bringing him in especially for $1M Aaron Rodgers has shown more being out with his Achilles in practice than Wilson did all of last year fields is the future of the Steelers if he didn’t get hurt last season bears would have made the playoffs

[@asacloutier7530]

@@Orangemangood53 the future of the steelers is a guy who can't throw for more 170 yards consistently???? THATS THE FUTURE!??!?!?!?!?!?! I'd un-alive myself if I were a steeler fan.

[@yomanrich3]

Doesn't the offense have enough leeway? The rules favor them.

[@isiahnelsoniv]

This is the most clown take ever. And why is Mel introduced as great? What has he done to warrant that?

[@jayzero6377]

It took the league forever to find a consistent way to stop the deep threat (mostly because of KC). Why would any defense ever want to change if every time they do, the rules get changed because of it.

[@stevenbailey181]

Let's just get rid of defense altogether. Jesus, Mel is a crybaby. The offense is supposed to figure out how to beat the defense.

[@Thewhitekorean]

We gonna find out if they can defend the run today 😂

[@KingCarolina_]

Stephen A sounds goofy asf. Rodgers won 2 of the last 4 MVPs. You can argue the Rodgers from the last 5 to 6 years is better than the one from 15 years ago just had a better roster back then. Rodgers’ injury makes him probably a top 15 QB right now. That’s the best the Jets will get. Should’ve protected him better last year would’ve made the post season potentially AFC chip. Oh well. They’ll make the playoffs if he stays healthy. I didn’t think they were winning or even making a Bowl before his injury. I’m a big fan of his as a Panther fan. Rooting for him.

[@Kamisama23]

His physical prime ended after 2018.

[@discoverarchery]

He game managed against the Titans and barely beat Will Levis, it’s early, but they have a lot of holes on defense in the first two games

[@King__Tone]

Ok my homie Jason holding down Rockland county. Glad to see you continue to excel after all those days of pick up bball and football back in the hood

[@seansmall9910]

Mel is crazy.... teams will adjust with running and that will move defences back forward and encourage more 8 man boxes.... stop listening to idiots that are watering down the league

[@andervanburren4980]

can’t help but seeing and hearing Ty from Pms lol😅

[@DocJakeDO]

Mel is wrong as usual. Loud and wrong.

[@Ajbomber14]

The other thing about the Jets O is Arod is taking it slow after the achilles injury. You could visibly see how scared he was in Week 1, and it got slightly better in Week 2. Thats why they start slow, but eventually Rodgers will get out of his own head and start balling out.

[@Gustavo13161721]

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