Ochocinco vs. Mad Dog vs. Louis Riddick 🍿 Is Tua Tagovailoa worth his $212M extension? | First Take

[@ikeemadams7840]

Mad Dog clearly doesn’t watch football. Or Miami Football. Herbert got $50M and no playoff win. But the media loveeees him.

Cuz he white duhh

[@AlexRosner-v8t]

Herbert is a million times more talented than tua

[@jerkfan123]

Zach Wilson was talented

[@Every-Dae-Dae]

@@AlexRosner-v8t yea that’s what I said His talent and he’s 6’6 so yea I would pick Herbert easily over Tua but Tua is still good not saying the opposite much respect to all QBs 💯

[@hunter702lv]

@@AlexRosner-v8tdrama! Herbert lost both his crutches.. don’t know how he will fair without Allen and Williams

[@evileyevalaus]

Ocho did say he was gonna be on first take 😭🤣🤣

[@QRobNYC]

Now I wanna see him their during the season. ESPN knows what they are doing it’s offseason so ratings are down and Stephen A is on vacation so they gave him a call. I just wanna see him on the show during the season.

[@evileyevalaus]

@@QRobNYC i definitely do too you not wrong at all

[@ggbchronicles7355]

With the night cap background... much love ochoooo ​@@evileyevalaus

[@thereseabessolo3956]

Dreams do come through...team Ocho😊

[@leehunchoo]

Shoutout to unc😂😂. Hope we can see him during the season even if it’s on a Friday

[@meethvncho]

I loved tua at Alabama and I was rocking with bro even when Flores was dogging him .. man got talent just keeping believing in him Miami

[@kanieluspryor126]

I respect your opinion but Tua was not better then jalen hurts.

[@CharlieXFBA]

Alabama loses that game if Saban doesn't make that switch ​@kanieluspryor126

[@JoeBoKnows]

"Burrow won a college championship" "Tua hasn't won anything" they BOTH won 1 college championship.....

[@oggrimes164]

Joe was in a Superbowl 😅 tua can't win a playoff game

[@goodnightmunchie]

@@oggrimes164 Joe the white master Burrow doesn't have black African privilege 🤦🚬

[@Coach.AJ_FL]

@@oggrimes164 Only question with Burrow is his health. Tua’s played more games than him.

[@evileyevalaus]

You not wrong but tua also cant win a game if its a little bit chilly (0-6 if the weather is 46 degrees or less) and also plays substantially worse against teams with winning records

[@DylanBennett-q7z]

I mean what other options did they have. They forget about the word leverage. What else were they going to do. Where else are they going to give that money. It's so wishy washy how the media is. All season last year they were talking about how great tua was. Now he is overpaid cause of one playoff loss

[@bengalsfandom623]

Ocho is very informative & smooth w it and Louis brings up great points that others don't... and mad dog sounds like he reps all the trolls on sm 😂

[@Rackus82]

Tua will end up in the Hall of fame. Not sure how ppl sleep on this guy, but i would watch out for Tua T!

[@Carlos-j7k7f]

I like when they sleep on him and underestimate him. He seems to feed off that now

[@elandorstyles4706]

Ocho wanna interrupt max dog so bad 😂

[@scruffd0g193]

The goal post moving for Tua is ridiculous. He is finally healthy and he’s gotten better each year.

[@phounsoukphavongxai3223]

watch him run again after losing weight and healing from the dislocated him lol haters gonna lose their mind. Tua was literally top 5 in every category and led the league in passing last year

[@saint6563]

He's now a Top 3 highest paid QBs. So of course the "goalposts" have been changed according.

[@239jangalang4]

Regular season stats my boii playoffs is what counts

[@thelaseringtrespiker4006]

@@239jangalang4according to playoffs then, everybody sucks except for mahomes, burrow, purdy, and maybe stafford

[@almavinson6678]

Congratulations Ocho finally made it on ESPN First Take and he did an awesome job hope we get to see him more coming up football season

[@sebastiancalmet-medone8856]

The tua hate is getting insanely annoying bro, he has literally changed the life of Miami, took us to the playoffs and put us on the map, this is dumb ofc he’s worth it, not even a debate bro

[@Carlos-j7k7f]

Preach it! It is getting tiring. Let him play ball. Herbert has a strong arm and hasn't won a playoff either.

[@armandojroropeza2257]

Ocho needs to stay permanently on first take

[@chrisharleston4450]

Agree big time 💯

[@martrellvabeach5437]

lol man yall gone turn on him in about 3 months

[@Coach.AJ_FL]

LOUIS REDDICK NEEDS TO BE A GM!!!!

[@thesportsfein]

Why when josh Allen got paid everybody was saying they paying him for what he’s going to do not What he’s done but they don’t say that for nobody else

[@kepapurdy1489]

It’s because Tua is not a good ol’ boy like Jesus Allen. Tua is Polynesian. That means he can in no way “understand “ the intricacies of an offense like Captain America can. Polynesians are typically suited to be “all brawn no brain “ type players even though Tua has proven otherwise thus far.

[@keymonrobinson2617]

Ocho needs to be a regular on the show ! Got tht Hood but business man type of tone wen it come to talking about sports

[@thesportsfein]

@@keymonrobinson2617 and he spit facts that bias like everybody else on the show

[@QRobNYC]

Now I wanna see him their during the season. ESPN knows what they are doing it’s offseason so ratings are down and Stephen A is on vacation so they gave him a call. I wanna see him on the show during the season now.

[@jaylajones6292]

I like Ocho better on first take more than night cap, his takes sound better

[@Opieboi]

I appreciate Chad being willing to knowingly take up the loosing side of debate, it’s a good debate exercise

[@pierrejones1262]

You're right, he can't play dumb now. 😂

[@jamesvolder5320]

burrow has had more injuries than tua, and with his wrist injury might never be the same. one of coldest games in nfl history.

[@jtbear77]

Ig you haven’t seeing reports and keeping up with cincy training camp Burrow put on about 15 lbs and you can see it , that wrist injury is in the past doctors was saying he’d never be the same Joe doesn’t care

[@JianoJoel]

I love how Ocho said “we” LETS GOOO PHIN FAN FOR LIFE ❤️

[@antwonwinfield9325]

Where is all the Trevor Lawerence at??? Hating on Tua but sleeping on T-law abysmal performances. What a joke ESPN

[@wakemiamigreatagain]

Why isn't anyone complaining about Jordon Love? He has only shown potential for one season and now he's the highest-paid QB? Where is the outrage?

[@8ballP]

Went into Jerry Wrld in the playoffs and left with 3 passing TDs is what got him paid.

[@matthewm3869]

you can go find other espn videos where they are doing the same thing, you just haven't watched them yet.

[@rv3358]

Beating Dallas isn’t the accomplishment people think it is. That Dallas Defense was horrendous

[@joshbeezley4158]

Over the last 12 weeks of the season up to the 49'ers game, he led the league in TD passes, TD-INT Ratio at 24-1, led the league in yards, was 3'rd in completion percentage and tied for the most wins in that span. I won't even use the Dallas game. That's too easy. He also beat the Chiefs with Mahomes and the Lions in Detroit on Thanksgiving, and had great games against those teams. Jordan also has better physical traits than Tua. He's 6'3" ot Tua's 6'0". He's got far superior arm strength and talent. He's more accurate. He's mobile. He also had a better year statistically and finished with a better record than Aaron Rodgers did in his first year as a starter. Love also got his 9-8 team to the playoffs and won a playoff game against the 2 seed as a 7 seed, whereas Aaron's team just finished 6-10. Tua hasn't won a playoff game. This is an upside signing. Love has shown he has the capability to be great in the NFL and probably has the highest ceiling of any QB in the NFL, alongside or just behind Stroud. Tua hasn't proven anything yet.

[@J4RMAMS]

@@joshbeezley4158 Jordan is love is not more accurate then Tua. Jordan has a lot to prove and doesn’t have 4 winning seasons under his belt while two are with subpar teams and fresh from a broken hip which could have been career ending.

[@chrisharleston4450]

Ocho awesome job man we would love to see you more Consistently as a regular on First Take my brother 👍

[@SWHunte401]

I swear Ocho and Floyd Maywhether must be related they talk alike lol

[@deckardaaron]

Thought I was the only one noticed

[@edpast6044]

You calling Chad slow ? Smh it might be cte.

[@KingDizzleLTDinc.]

Shannon done plugged Ocho in on First Take..💯💯

[@chrisharleston4450]

Ion know.. unc acted like he didn't know on Nightcap and had to find out on TV himself that Ocho was on the show 😅

[@user-xy7vi4fp7l]

@@chrisharleston4450 he indirectly plugged him

[@varey_farrari4790]

I love how Ocho worked his way onto First Take. He’s been tryna get a spot for years

[@lashunebrown7405]

Reddick knows wassup and anybody that watch Tua knows too.. If Tua and the team stays healthy Tua is gonna win a Super Bowl cause he has the Talent and that's a Fact.. I can't wait until he hush everybody up lol

[@Sylvieboy72]

I advise other Dolphins fans to completely ignore the outside noise, because we know its not gonna stop untill Tua leads us to a potential Super Bowl, so just let them keep talking and we'll see what happens! #PhinsUp

[@rHinosYth]

lol poor MadDog.

[@phounsoukphavongxai3223]

let em know louis!!! and your salary is for 17 games. you get your game check after every game . not for playoff wins. dolphins should've extended Tua 2 years ago and could've gotten him for 35-40 mil/yr

[@ozzymadrigal2560]

Stephen A. Said at one point he needed to retire due to the concussions lol

[@ggbchronicles7355]

Awww

[@ggbchronicles7355]

Stephen A was right about kyrie retiring and tua right..... hes like mad dog.... and colin cowterd.... rather give a wild take for views and doesn't watch the games opposed to a rational factual take based on facts not feelings and actually has context

[@ismaelcuetojr2039]

The media looooves Herbert?? Mad dog doesn’t watch Miami football, you clearly dnt watch Herbert cuz the media doesn’t love him. Remember that “riddick” said the team is 1-6, same for Herbert. Not all on him either.

[@mitchoo2211]

I say the issue is that there aren't enough good qb's around. The league requires 32 starters, and they should all be paid close to the same, but the number of elite players isn't there.

[@nygwill88]

$50 Million dollars? Who they think they got? Chelsea Clinton? (Chris Tucker Voice)

[@robertmendez6847]

😂😂😂Love it!!

[@jaytaylor1058]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ayemanent1680]

She called Ocho “Judd” 😂

[@SayDatShiii...]

If any of those other guys had led the league in passing yards and put up a 70 point game last year we would hear about it every conversation..but since it was Tua or any non white quarterbacks the goal posts is moved

[@bernardocoelho6069]

I guess everyone saying that Mahomes is the goat or is going to be the goat is because he is white ... Lamar Jackson also that gets high praise by the media is white ... drop the color persecution complex bro and touch some grass

[@someguy9301]

​​@@bernardocoelho6069, you forgot CJ Stroud and that other white guy Jordan Love.

[@quadsforme1421]

And what happened the following week? Bills put 50 points on them and exposed the fins, early in the season

[@robertmendez6847]

You say Tua doesn’t need to be great, he just needs to be good. Ok then how about instead of paying him great money, you just pay him good money?

[@pacebeazy7584]

Lol stop it. Trash take

[@Muggsy23]

My BOY Ochocinco, GALD TO SEE YOU MADE IT TO espn

[@gamblingguru2235]

Max dog on auto pilot today lol

[@besmorpheous]

Miami was killed by injuries , yeah they blew that games against the titans and Buffalo , but injuries play a big part , that defense needs to stay healthy

[@dgodm7541]

The dolphins literally are bad without him 😂

[@KingDizzleLTDinc.]

Your right but you can put Kirk Cousins,even Tannehill,with those weapons and the team would still have somewhat the same success,he is not worth that money but the market is the market so I’m not hating on him

[@AlexRosner-v8t]

Wrong any average qb would do better with those wepinsb

[@hunter702lv]

@@KingDizzleLTDinc.Tannehill? NOW THATS A GOOD ONE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@scruffd0g193]

@@KingDizzleLTDinc.we saw in 2022.

[@joeasuncion2891]

@@KingDizzleLTDinc. Bridgewater has shown he's capable of bringing teams to the playoffs and is a very respectable thrower. He did not perform well will the Fins in 2022 when Tua was injured.

[@iambmw]

man Louis Riddick KNOWS his stuff, he's not just going off a few bogus stats being thrown around. shout out Louis for always keeping it 100

[@troyg2458]

Let`s give Mad Dog some credit here. He has forty years in this media game, and he let Ocho live to see another day. When Doggy came through the door, I'm sure Molly said go easy on Ocho, SAS is trying him out for the big time. I`m sure Doggy said, He`s not ready.....

[@SuperD3v1N]

Tua can’t beat winning teams…

[@Milesrk717]

He’s done it before. Plus it’s a team game. Tua can’t individually beat a team

[@allabouttheu2182]

he's beaten winning teams before last season.

[@jonathannaranjo5105]

He beat the bills and ravens before the concussion fiasco. Yeah we lost big games last year but we were missing 13 starters

[@Kplattjr1]

Cmon mad dog tua played in every game last year. FOH. N led da league n passing. Career high 29 TDs. His hip is fully healthy now. He'll be ok. Definitely gotta win in cold weather. Besides that doe. I think he solid. Big fan since Alabama

[@leetraviusmckay314]

"Tua is lousy in cold weather" 😂

[@goodnightmunchie]

Miami needs a white QB 😮🚬

[@user-ck9mu7zp9q]

Statistically he is....

[@Kev3981]

He is tho

[@dkgdkg2178]

Did you mean "Tua IS lousy in cold weather!". Loser in cold weather.

[@jamesmaggert3446]

Louis just spilling facts! Mad dog doesn’t watch the sport and it’s obvious.

[@antonioingram3857]

Mad dog has always been a Tua hater

[@williamkerfoot8039]

With good reason

[@TheMiaboi22]

@@williamkerfoot8039with no reason be quiet

[@antonioingram3857]

​@williamkerfoot8039 you must be a Buffalo fan

[@christophers7160]

I need this same topic for Herbert, Lawrence and Cousins…..

[@roguebossa]

Tua's really good, he's gotten a bad rap from some but the whole team needs to improve. If he stays healthy he'll rock.

[@theadorecurry4102]

Trevor Lawrence has a losing record as well, you fail to mention that.

[@johnnysilver5866]

Has anyone gone to college here? It’s literally economics 101, supply and demand. Low supply of good QBs, and all 32 Multi-billion dollar orgs demanding good QB play means prices will be sky high

[@MikloStatus]

Take out Tyreek and Tua would be getting benched for Fitzmagic again..

[@ofnmeech2747]

Take out any qb number one target and see how they do

[@lamarbennett436]

Tua carved up the no5 defense last year without tyreek try again

[@lavellrobinson1648]

@@ofnmeech2747 Well what Did Mahomes do when lost tyreek ? lol

[@19934]

@@lavellrobinson1648he had kelcie bro Travis Kelcie

[@MikloStatus]

@ofnmeech2747 not any qb. Just most qbs would struggle without their #1

[@ghostwriter5527]

Hertbert doesn’t have a winning record PERIOD. Same people defend Herbert being a top tier QB. Is BS

[@SantinoTillman-e3v]

Today Robah Ocho for giving a real take on dis topic

[@jddagreat1843]

I agree 💯 with Louis All facts

[@jessewise9004]

You know it’s bad when I’m agreeing with mad dog

[@Tomyohann]

Tua will be okay 😂, and is an extremely talented QB. What’s wrong with the media trying to bury him for getting his contract?

[@Eric-uh3kv]

Louis Riddick needs to be everywhere on espn during the season. And even other networks. Guy is that good talking football

[@RenzaissanceTV]

Idk all the times they faced winning teams they was away, except the bills game in 16, but by then they had lost almost everyone from injuries

[@jucyl3monzz603]

Mad Dog just rambling

[@kbrathwai]

MR. CHAD JOHNSON & MR. CHRIS RUSSO???? 👀😂👀😂 A INTERESTING & CRAZY COMBINATION!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@emmanmeansgreat1]

I watch both first take and nightcap. Chad so use to night cap setting, he don’t even adjust his lighting for the first take segment lol, but chad even said as long as his takes on point the rest don’t matter lol

[@MusicthatsStrange]

I've been saying this lol $50 million a year for Tua 😂 GTFO that's absolutely crazy. Now if he was leading the league in passing without tyreek but with only waddle I would understand. Plus he doesn't beat the good teams.

[@humblewarrior4648]

Once again this goal post keeps getting moved….. with Waddle he put up 2,600 and waddle accounted for 1K of those yards. Tyreek had over 1,7500 yards with Tua having 3,600 in 2022 and 4.624 in 2024…. Take away Tyreek I think he can still put up 4K with the committee of receivers he would have. Now with Reek it does help to stretch the field the way he does but don’t sleep on Tua like he hot garbage cuz he far from that

[@ndnow12]

Tua was in the MVP discussion until his entire oline went down and he was behind 4 guys who didn't start the year and the team had 5 players they signed in week 16. He'll be in mvp talk again this year until the oline dies again.

[@peterganem9162]

PREACH LOUIS!!!

[@DaltonSinquefield]

The hate tua receives is insane. Dude is insanely talented. One of the most accurate qbs in the nfl. Dolphins were one of the most injury prone teams last year. Almost entire o line was out at times. And the narrative he dumps it off to hill and that’s it is insane. If you use that argument then you clearly don’t watch ball

[@haqctrix]

So they fired everybody even max Kellerman and jalen rose but now they hire ocho cinco?

[@ggbchronicles7355]

Molly you looked great today in white.... also, appreciate you mentioning context and a redemption story

[@curtisdunn7112]

Sounds like another tannenhill deal makes a ton of excuses for Tua just like tannenhill

[@matthewmoreno4212]

Ocho on ESPN!!!!!!! I’m here for it

[@jjchatma]

I wonder if he said the same about Herbert & Lawrence lol.

[@sdmims1]

The NFL HAS GOTTEN SO GOOD NOBODY CAN PREDICT WHOS GONNA WIN IT ALL I LOVE IT!!!

[@roguebossa]

That's so correct

[@sergioleon2817]

Burrow has missed more games than tua and they never bring up his durability smh

[@cincitytv9747]

Ocho did good! Needs to be a regular

[@ebunny5]

Go Ocho! 😊

[@TheBlackSands]

Mad dog has a few quarterbacks that he dislikes even though they are proven winners and playoff quarterbacks

[@thomasnuggets9719]

For the curious doubters, search youtube for “tua ravens” and “tua chargers”, unbelievable poise and accuracy, he gets the ball out very quickly, hes struggled late in the yr when he was down to 1 or 2 starting o linemen, hes got this, Im a phins fan and I have 0 regerts

[@JulianFranco-d7o]

Mad Dog thinks a 40 year old QB (NYJ)is worth a 2-year $75 million dollar contract

[@ptown8hunnid]

So it’s ok for Trevor and Herbert to get the bag but for Tua is all this hate gtfoh

[@J4RMAMS]

He’s also unapologetically Christian and has no scandals so the media hates him. They don’t want him to succeed.

[@Ewabound571]

Same argument can be made about the top QBs in the league such as Herbert, Dak, Love but nobody criticized them. Love beat Dallas but we know Dallas chokes in big time too. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@hs4a085]

How come no one questioned Herbert’s extension? Or Lawrence? Or dak, Carr, Kirk, even Jalens extensions? Why is it always, “does Tua deserve _____?” Smfh ya hating the kid because he aint your average Black or White qb like ya are used to? Hating because Hill speaks highly of him? Smh grow up!

[@J4RMAMS]

He’s also unapologetically Christian and has no scandals so the media hates him. They don’t want him to succeed.

[@butternuts14]

Goes to show mad dog didn’t watch any games last year. Miami didn’t have many plays where Tyreek took a short pass for a big gain.

[@mattj7157]

Does Mad Dog ever argue for something that makes sense?

[@matthewm3869]

Mad Dog hasn't kept up with the times, he knows baseball and a lot of sports history, not up to par with current day knowledge

[@todd785]

Anytime somebody says "all Tua does is throw it to Tyreek and he gets 80 yds of yac" they lose all credibility. Thats just proof they don't watch film, they just repeat narratives.

[@jaradwhite9352]

If Tua plays like this and we are saying he's just mid to good then if he ever plays great the league should just shutdown cause he'll just win everything. Marino was a great QB who couldn't win the big one because the team wasn't good enough that happens. Jim Kelly was another. The Tua Slander needs to stop. Yes he has areas we all want to see improvement in but the act like he's trash.

[@kevinsmith2366]

Great take Ocho .... punch line...the market is market...

[@ah-ma-waya-sha-ah-la2723]

btw Tua won a ncaa championship too

[@H00diejay]

But they’ll saw Lawrence deserve his money

[@chrisnugent6507]

He's 3 out of 4 in his own division and possibly #4 depending on how the rookie plays. He's sensitive and injury prone, half the league or more can get the ball to the rest of the Miami offense

[@nawamp79]

"I struggle to see....". -Canty Haha.. just stop there bro, we can all know that you struggle to see! 😅

[@kingfiyah305]

So Tua didn’t win a championship in Alabama. Bruh, Mad Dog is one of the worst analyst.

[@Kplattjr1]

Louis riddick a beast. Get em. H2p. #412🔥🎤🔥

[@justabouthadit09]

Hey dicketa, tua may not be the flashy one but he’s improved on something he will win in a cold game in playoff this year.you just can’t Rodger Wong out your mouth take a walk

[@brucemanickchand8389]

Tua will only get better

[@davidclmack]

Here for Ocho! Love the entire team but Ocho is in the house!!

[@randyforbes8301]

Canty's hating on Tua but pushing for Dak to be the highest ever is absolute BS. If you don't understand a market, just say that!

[@trublazer933]

By no means am I saying Tua is top 5..he’s hovering around 10. But it’s also a team game. The Miami Dolphins have to win vs winning teams. The Miami Dolphins have to play better in cold games. Coach McDaniel has to do a better job. Football is the ultimate team game.

[@joec8942]

Louis Rodrick leading the Tua apology tour. 🤦‍♂️🤡

[@SPSCAPITAL1]

Miami wins the Division and the Superbowl.

[@ggbchronicles7355]

Thank you lou reddick and ocho

[@masteroogway4170]

J Love wouldn't be top 5 in the AFC as well lmaoooo

[@andrewharty3874]

Molly and Chad are clueless 😂