Snapping Wall Lines Ep.46

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[@user-jm5pf5zj6d]

Probably the best kzbin.infoUgkxYGamVaHfdHiPlAQaLa7zkwR02OKpGYDU on building a shed is hardly found ever . And Ryan takes the mystery out of different types of foundation options, etc. He even shows how to build shed with different designs. Very comprehensive, covering different roofing materials, siding, etc.

[@haroldraceedge1168]

This Country needs more men like you. Ready to work, Ready to stand up for whats right.

[@Phosphomannomutase]

Im a Civil Engineering Student from germany; we build our residential completely different and ill probably never hammer in even a single nail in my entire carreer. Still i find myself watching every single of this videos and i will do so until the house is sold and the moving truck arrives. Scott is a natural teacher, i love the music, the calm mood and the splendid production quality as well as the sheer amount of knowledge and detail. Thank you a lot for this format, its the youtube content i look forward to the most!

[@Addystiffler]

In UK as a construction supervisor I make my engineers bang in nails, pins datum points all the time

[@chrishardy3473]

I am from England and i framed in California for 3 years..... great time and learnt from some amazing journeyman framers. Wish i had paid more attention to be honest.... oh and i wish i had youtube back then so i could have learnt faster.

[@samcarver317]

Phosphomannomutase In what ways is residential building done differently in Germany? The way Scott is framing this house isn't the only way it is done here. Scott is doing what is called "Stick" framing. Building everything on sight. Another way homes are built here (Usually less custom and lower priced homes.) Is "Panel" built. For those the walls are delivered pre-built in 6'-10' (mostly 8') lengths or panels. They are numbered/labeled. Instead of a normal blueprint you use basically an assembly drawing. You snap out all the lines and label them like A-1 or whatever and that is the corresponding wall panel that goes there. The house gets assembled (not built as I see it) by connecting the panels together where they go. There are also houses pre-built basically fully finished in (usually 2) sections delivered then attached together. Edit: If you can get some experience building houses you should. I have always thought all architects, engineers, inspectors etc. should be required to have some actual on the job experience. What works on paper doesn't always work or doesn't work as good or efficient in practice. Sometimes a small change in design can greatly decrease the amount or difficulty of labor involved. Saving manhours saves money! A lot of times those labor saving design changes can only be noticed by the people doing the labor. Also it is very common to find errors in blueprints. Numbers and dimensions not adding up. Like a house has an overall size but you start snapping lines for wall layouts. You get to the last partition wall and realize the room is supposed to be 14'6" wide and you only have 14' left. Sometimes it may be ok for the room to be a little smaller but sometimes its not and you need to figure out where to take the 6" from. Maybe all from 1 other room maybe a little from a few. Sometimes its an issue on who makes the decision. Someone that has been through that would probably be more careful to have the numbers work on buildings they designed. Or they may add a small detail that takes a relatively long time to build for just a little bit of noticeable improvement.

[@Phosphomannomutase]

@@samcarver317 Our residential is mostly big hollow concrete bricks, "glued" together with very thin special mortars , with rockwool panels attached for insulation. The floors are reinforced concrete poured on site. Stairwells are prefab reinforced concrete. There is some trend to wooden construction, especially prefab as you mentioned (Fertigteilbauweise), but not necessary with a focus on cheapness, more like ecology, comfort and energy efficiency (requirements for insulation are quite harsh, as is our winter :) ). My University actually requires every aspiring civ eng to work twelwe weeks in construction doing manual labor before they can start their degree. So i spent a summer roofing for no pay, carrying tiles, cleaning the site and manning the elevator. Hated it to be honest, but gave my respect for the men doing those kind of jobs a whole new dimension. Really made me thankful for the opportunity to get a degree that enables my butt to be planted at a desk all day

[@lionheart93]

@@Addystiffler thats right

[@Bolockaye206]

As a 19 yr old budding carpenter. Your story seriously resonates with me. Took a while to find a crew that was willing to teach me and put me to work. Glad I found them. Productivity is key

[@badlandskid]

New guy..... I don’t understand why I need to do this. Crew boss.... That’s ok, I understand for you.

[@psidvicious]

Like that one! 🤜🤛

[@paultacy186]

I love it………..can I use that one?

[@deanaoxo]

and plus, most folks can only remember 3 things(might be less now)so, yeah, do this, perfectly, and we'll let you do the next thing.

[@badlandskid]

Paul Tacy absolutely!

[@ManuelHernandez-br6dy]

Well it is always good to know why we do the things we do lol,

[@davidlupton1780]

This series has more information in it than any construction management program in any college I’ve ever seen.

[@brianglade848]

I'd like to be the guy that follows u on the job site and plays the banjo

[@carsonbh]

We gotta get that guy a better chair.

[@jasonji1900]

carson holmes I was taught to run when I hear banjo music

[@carsonbh]

That's a fantastic non sequitur!

[@stephanieray6587]

@@carsonbh Oh, it follows, closely to the rear ;-)

[@renasouza8261]

You are in for a world of trouble. He worked A LOT to be that guy hahah

[@kearneyboy]

'The man that never made a mistake on site never made anything at all' Top notch content as always Scott. The house is looking well squared away.

[@TechnicalMercenary]

I'm in the IT field as a network engineer on an enterprise grade contract where nothing is supposed to go down (like 99.9% uptime kind of environment with lots of redundancy), and even within my own team we have a saying of "if you haven't broken something, then your not working."

[@patrickmcdonagh381]

Well said

[@kareem8533]

I "never" made a mistake. I never broke anything, except the rules. Well, I also broke my leg twice and all my front teeth once.

[@ricardomagnificent]

@@shawnsumpter8633 It's not a mistake till they pour the concrete.

[@aaronbanta2786]

I value my time and consider watching you an excellent use of it. I can't pay you any greater compliment. Thank you.

[@joeybofa]

Bob Ross and Larry Hahn zen. Thanks for your videos.

[@joshweight9292]

The IRC requires anchor bolts be placed in the center 1/3 of the sill plate. It looks like you are notching more than half of the plate to fit over the anchor bolts and that definitely wouldn’t fly where I live. Anyway, lots of awesome info, love the video series!

[@christopherdisante7306]

The guy sitting on the resin chair, sunglasses, sun hat, I would like to apply for his job.

[@edwardbrady8410]

The humility you show by telling the story of your start as a young, green carpenter's apprentice made my day. I really enjoy your videos, they teach me a lot. You're a true tradesman, but more than that, you're one helluva good person. May God bless you and your family 🙏.

[@elvisvelez6609]

I’d love to spend a week with you guys and learn off of you. What a wealth of knowledge

[@Metalblaze124]

That little story at the end was fantastic! I've done a couple small things like that, but nothing that big lol I am not a young man persay, I've learned to wait for instruction and soak in the learning, ask lots of questions. I'm hoping to be taken on as an apprentice, my anxiety constantly tells me I'm just there for temporary labour till he finds someone with experience but I don't let him know that hehe. I'll just keep watching you build and I'll keep heeding your advice. Thanks for another great video filled with useful tips so I don't look like a fool again on the job. My quick 'idiot moment story' Steve, my boss - "Hang the hangars up and get them ready to install, I'll need the strong nails for them" Me "Got it" After a few minutes Steve was talking to the excavator driver and I thought I knew how to get ahead for him, nail in those hangars. Of course I start with the double hangar for the beam and it's a narrow gap to the next joist. But, I manage after some struggle, got 3 nails in the hangar nice and tight in and 2 in the other side before the boss comes back in the basement and looks up......"No, that's not the right hangar for that joist, has to come out" Spent the next 20 minutes peeling out the 3 nails in the tight space.....absolutely brutal feeling, wasted at least 30 minutes of productive time simply because I failed to listen and wait. I'll be framing out my first house in the new year, I'll study well! Merry Christmas!

[@chubbz981]

exact thing happened here. Boss- "Put hangars on that wall" (time passes) (puts hangars up) "that whole wall wasn't supposed to get all the hangars" communication

[@Metalblaze124]

@@chubbz981 lol Yup, sometimes it's good to wait for instruction, other times better to ask and look like a dummy then do and look like a big dummy lol

[@SuperWingman69]

I feel compelled to say that I am honored and grateful to be able to witness true craftsmanship as its displayed so well in your videos. Thank you for your time and effort in providing outstanding content for us all. Thank you for your insights regarding the treatment of those new, eager and willing new hires working their hearts out and looking for guidance from the old timers. You are an outstanding teacher and leave us all better for watching and learning from you. All the best, today and always.

[@essentialcraftsman]

Thank you very much Superingman - means a lot!

[@richardgray1730]

While in college worked summers as a construction labor. The crews got used me being smart and asking all sorts of questions. So I been on the job site a day or two eating lunch and paging thru the blue prints while looking out the trailers windows and the something about house did not look right. tBy this time the house was framed, roof on and half of the bricks was up... The windows are wrong. They are 7' in tall and the blue prints are calling for 5' tall windows... I double checked the prints, then called over the foreman. He cannot believe it. He both ordered the windows and framed the walls and never caught the mistake. After some time flipping thru the prints He finale found the mistake in the window summary table on the prints. He both ordered and took the window dimensions for framing from the window summary. So, my questions was "what are we going to do now?" He answer was "Well I quess the homeowner will have to order longer curtains." and walked away.

[@rjtumble]

Love the music choice in your videos and having the little tidbit at the end is a nice touch.

[@gm-lb9oe]

I always use Black chalk, its waterproof, easy to see, and doesn't smudge or come off

[@craigjoseph9374]

You have helped me immediately, I have built a deck off the back of our house, another deck and built an island on it for our grill, smoker, flat top grill and Ooni pizza oven. I have also built a 4x8 wood shed with a lean-to-roof, all of this without the full knowledge of how to do it. I now know how to frame with precision, layout both a common rafter and hip roof, whereas before I did not have the knowledge. Your video on the 1800 ft cinder block wall showed me how to do a small 8 foot long and 5 foot high cinder block wall, properly.

[@16jocko]

There is nothing as valuable and doing it right, accurate. You have a very refreshing outlook on working, I enjoy your program.

[@JAxford]

I enjoyed this video the most out of the series so far. Framing is probably the most satisfying part of the job.

[@mikes1345]

Biggest lesson i learned as a helper on a framing crew was that face pattern on the framing hammer is one hell of a thumb tenderizer especially the second time! Getting in a hurry hurts!!!!

[@63256325N]

It was X's for studs and O's for jacks and cripples in the Midwest and HW for corners if memory serves. Great video as always, a real pleasure no matter the subject, brought back some fond memories. Thanks. Solid headers, wow!

[@Doco72]

I too love the music, sounds great!

[@jameslikesturtles8254]

My first job on a site I worked for a guy who didn’t like to be asked what I should do. Lasted a month or so made a lot of mistakes that could’ve been avoided with some teaching. Now in my new job I get to ask questions and learn, can say I have been at least twice as productive, gotten along better with the guys on site, and have spent a lot less time tearing out mistakes compared to before. Just goes to show, a little bit of time invested in teaching saves a lot of time correcting ignorant mistakes.

[@Amir-gb6ef]

I am French and I just discovered your chain and quite frankly it's interesting to see how you made your houses, we in France 90% of houses are concrete.

[@EvrSpd]

In South Africa we use concrete or brick and cement too. I always wondered why they prefer timber homes in America, it's so much more complicated.

[@Amir-gb6ef]

@@EvrSpd I have always said that if they make them out of wood it is for a question of speed and cost. (maybe I'm wrong)

[@psidvicious]

@@Amir-gb6ef You are not wrong. Cost mainly. In the US, in areas prone to hurricanes, their mostly concrete. 🤜🤛

[@waynemiracle8928]

Great video! As I’ve said before the music is outstanding! Masterfully executed!

[@seanrichardson4210]

Love the way you build,I am a carpenter,30plus years building in so.and cal.love your vids on efficiency

[@dwindi0406]

I found my first framing job in the paper. I called the add and the guy said come on up. I asked what tools I needed to bring. He said bring your bags. Not knowing what this meant, I put on dad's carpenter belt and a raincoat (Portland area) and headed to the job. I showed up at the job and the guy asked where are your bags? I lifted the rain coat to show my dad's carpenter belt. They got a laugh. I staged 2x4 all day long. That night, I bought my first set of bags at home Depot. When I showed up the next day with a set of bags, they knew I'd be around a while. Thanks for sharing your story at the end of the video.

[@railfan439]

AMEN about accurate layout lines. My house has 2 bathrooms, the toilets are back to back. The wall between them was laid out one inch off. The toilet in one bath has an extra inch of space behind it. In the other bathroom the toilet is tight TIGHT against the wall. When I had to change to low-water usage toilets, it was difficult to make one fit. The plumber used an offset toilet flange and wax gasket to make it work. Fortunately the re was enough fudge room. Thanks for the videos. Jon

[@sontwo3948]

Scott's comment at the end of this video about 'teaching the new guy' reminded me of my 1st summer job as a 'carpenter's apprentice' on the big Albany NY South Mall construction site in 1966. I was more of a 'mule' than apprentice. The foreman just had us young guys pulling 4x4s from concrete slabs using 6' crow bars all day long. Got strong physically, but almost zero carpenter skills. Learned what I could pretty much on my own. Would have loved to have had a boss like Scott back then !

[@timobrien5675]

The time spent explaining what and how you are doing the things you are is a gift to everyone who is afforded the opportunity to watch these videos, I would like to truly thank you for each video. Scott as you have said on multiple occasions, through the series so far, regional differences may be out there however you are giving "noobs" and professional builders alike a vocabulary to start conversations. Those conversations may be as simple as clarifying why something is done a certain way or as powerful as providing a reason to select construction as a career. Keep up the good work!

[@NelloCambelli]

Glad you mentioned Southern Yellow Pine as the producers would argue the finer engineering points of difference. Second and third growth yellow pine has tight grain which is dependent on the rain and soil type. Your presentation continues to provide insights. Thanks.

[@Jason-uz8hj]

Only SYP we see in my part of the country is green treated "yellawood" is what the tag says. You can get SYP from the yard, if they have it, but you have to ask for it specifically.

[@jordanharder8293]

Love the videos. You guys are a joy to tag along with. Thanks!

[@luisbvs]

Love your videos, long time viewer, way before the house was even an idea... Love the house series for real... Making comment to help with the whole KZbin engagement deal... best of luck!

[@rickscott2568]

You do a great job of explaining the building process. Very enjoyable.

[@malpica013]

Great advice as far as the treatment for the new guy goes I am 100% onboard with the idea saves time money and effort

[@blacksupra10]

what a series, absolute credit to you.

[@jacobdarby4641]

I've enjoyed watching and learning from your videos. Thank you

[@veintactical8340]

I enjoy watching this so much! Wish I lived near to learn. So much knowledge

[@jeremymcnatt3501]

Good video, and great series overall. I’ve learned quite a bit. Thanks for sharing!

[@tedmcnair9709]

Red and green are the best colors to use. My green lasers are by far the best layout tool I Use!

[@piotrzdziennicki7838]

Loving all the characters getting into the frame! ;)

[@shawnsumpter8633]

SNAPPING BOTH LINES SMART WISE FOR MANY REASONS... THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

[@loganquesinberry127]

Love to see a wall go up soon Man, love you and your work. Until you post we will just hang around and wait

[@coffeemachtspass]

You’re saving me a fare amount of heartache with these videos. I agreed to help my dad frame a house but he doesn’t quite have the patience that you have for the beginner. I regret that I never worked for him as a kid like my older brothers did.

[@frey9931]

You're a great worker and brilliant guy who obviously cares a lot. Thanks for your videos! I enjoy them after working all day, they help me wind into my evening while still supporting me as my brain digests my work day. I was thinking, while we often talk about PPE - Personal Protective Equipment we don't usually talk about how to take care of your body. How to walk, how to stand, how to lean over- keeping your core tight and support your back. But also how to relax, to be strong but not strained. These are just my thoughts but would love to hear your thoughts on working all your life, where you get your energy, what you see others doing that helps them. Anyway, thanks, hope everything goes smoothly for Y'all.

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Always interesting thanks for sharing your knowledge 👍🇦🇺🚜

[@FunkFPV]

Congrats Nate, you’re not necessary but you are useful 😜 2:08 Keep up the good work. Love watching you guys build.

[@randallkellogg1235]

Love the channel!! Lookig forward to more videos!!!

[@SeeonX]

Do you ever talk about sun damage? Maybe not in this series but what steps can outdoor workers take to help protect their skin from the sun over time in a career like this and heat(Such as people in the sourth)? That way they do not get skin cancer or skin damage over years of working out doors rapidly aging their skin. (I'd love for your input in this in a future video.) Thanks!

[@Lanxe]

Scott - Appreciated your story a lot. I'd say not just kids but anyone new trying to do something new needs to have time given to them to give them the best chance to succeed. I work in IT and it's chronic how often regular users trying to do their job using technology are not provided with the right information or training. It's easier to fix a problem than to try and explain to someone why and what they should be doing instead. There's lots of factors why this is the case, but the good technicians & managers know prevention is better than the cure, even if it takes more effort in the short term.

[@anthonyhalderman9624]

Superb series! Keep up the great work.

[@Joe___R]

Dug furr is nice but my preference for framing is southern yellow pine out of the standard lumber. LVLs are now my go to for conventional framing, they never have any crown, twists or any other problems solid lumber has.

[@marcemarc6516]

You guys are great 👍🏾 such good quality

[@T.E.P.]

thanks for all these terrific videos and your storytelling style. the podcast is fantastic!

[@VictorRamirez-uc7rv]

Thanks Scott you help me a lot with your videos

[@herrerafam8690]

Thanks for the story at the end, I work with a guy like that but I'm always try to lean and grow.

[@kevintaylor113]

Square, Plumb and True must be three of the most Essential conditions of assembly. Thanks 🙏 for sharing the build and all of the nuances and insights into the critical thinking 🤔 that it requires to build a quality home. Anyone can see that its easy to build a house, but it takes a true craftsman to build a home. Luv the series! As always, work safely 😎

[@korishan]

21:05 Hahahah, the boss is coming in to check out the work 😉

[@alm000]

The guy who taught me the most was few in words and most of them were expletives, LOL He taught me to observe and learn for myself and always stay busy, these two things have taken me far and not just in work but in life. He was a hard-ass but a true master of carpentry, I hated him when I first started work all those years ago but now I couldn't thank him enough, what he taught me has given me an edge above most others. The day he nailed my lunch box to a deck was the day I knew I had his approval, took me like 5 years, LOL

[@edwaggonersr.7446]

One can always tell what kind of man it is who made a video. The good ones, that care, respond. Kudos.

[@azzabouy8243]

thankyou, great video as always, see you decided to stick with the yellow marker :)

[@parkerword1401]

The story of not really doing told you task or job on the site resonated with me. I went to work 500 miles from home in Bedford, Iowa building wind turbines for Barnhart Crane and Rigging. I showed up all by my lonesome to the laydown that the first day eager to work. My boss was not the kindest or most personable. She sent me out to one of the tower sites and just dumped me off with a crew and some papers. I tell you that was the most unproductive day I've had. The crew and that site were all out of wack as well. Later while working that job I was switched to another crew (Base/Rotor Crew) and they really seemed to be well oiled and with some time I picked up what I needed to do or where I could be doing something. I ended up quitting that job because my boss wasn't letting me work for the crew that I had come to work with and for the fact that I hated working 500 miles homes from home while I felt undervalued as an employee. Barnhart and many of the people I worked with are awesome and would love to do business with them again, but it is amazing how a boss can ruin an experience to such an extent.

[@ChristianPretorius]

Great video as always. Love the podcast!

[@jeffmay1332]

I am just now learning about your podcast and catching up. I am however fully caught up on your KZbin channel and didn’t realize there was an issue with the rock wall. I for one would love a detailed video about what the problem was, how it was discovered, and how it was resolved. Everything on your channel is such a great learning experience and correcting mistakes should always be a learning experience. Thanks for all you do.

[@StormbringerMM]

That is some mighty fine music, perfect fit to the well narrated and filmed episode

[@bondking501]

When I started framing, I hardly knew which end of the hammer to hold. Thankfully, I had a patient, kind foreman that taught me. I was blessed. I know a bunch of guys that had to dodge hammers and speed squares when they messed up.

[@duderh4919]

Haha round our crew we call it "The Olympic hammer toss." we had an apprentice cut a rim joist 100" short. Poor guy 100 inched himself. However we did learn that day, that anything an apprentice accidentally screws up doesn't fall on the journeyman anymore that's all on the apprentice. Hes still catching hell for it today.

[@jeremiahlino7603]

I like watching your videos you do great work! I like how you explain the things you are doing .

[@royalty_the1892]

Great story to end this episode with! 👍

[@mattbrown4895]

Love the channel!

[@chrisboonstra5108]

Great story at the end!

[@bartbug1]

Mate you are today's Larry Haun, I'm glad you're making these videos. They're both great and full of skill and tips. Cheers from Australia

[@pedalman4595]

Great story great advice thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@anthonylynch4243]

Hey Scott, I hope to one day have the opportunity to build a home for my family and do so with my boys. I've moved my family overseas and miss the joy of construction. If you see this I want you to know that your channel is really a great source of instruction and entertainment and I enjoy being able to show my sons what we'd be doing if we were Stateside. Blessings to you brother. Your channel reaches places further than you may realize. All the best.

[@flnthrn2]

What a view from that house !!

[@donlipparelli5457]

Great videos for a custom home

[@claudemaximus9409]

I was taught use bleu line first and red for ( changes) . Love your show and miss my old man also a life long carpenter (1924-2009) who showed me so much, like you do taking the time , Bravo 👍🏻🇨🇦

[@thesage1096]

nice one

[@shexdensmore]

I'm still that kid at age of 31. Don't have many solid trade skills beyond a general but solid foundation. My dad has taught me all kinds of things and I do my best to learn them.

[@papapetad]

Thanks for the share.

[@forwardhomeenhancements2622]

Great job!

[@dylanmounsey7515]

This was freaking awesome by the way

[@FinishCarpentryTV]

Can’t wait for you to get to the trim work!

[@67fairlane90]

Hey EC, how about a collaboration with Richard? Have him come up and trim out the spec house!

[@trundlethegreat90]

@@67fairlane90 I'd rather see Scott using his skills here.

[@jordanbethmay22]

Colby Ford Stole the thoughts out of my head I was thinking the same thing about Richard from finish carpentry tv How cool would it be for him to do the finish work on this house And who knows have Jimmy Diresta build a fire place Mattel or a farm table

[@chefsteven34]

Jordan Dykstra Second that idea! Scott has been working hard, let the man take a break. Richard it’s your turn to shine on this project. If that’s alright with everyone else.

[@theobromine2939]

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[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great video Essential craftsman

[@stephanieray6587]

I got my first scrap AKA reclaimed lumber from a construction job site at Stanford University, and it turned out to be mainly Doug Fir. Was lucky enough to get a long piece of white oak, as well.

[@alm000]

I've worked with a lot of different layout guys from different regions, they all had a different "accent" or variation when it came to how they marked layouts and symbols. After a while not only could I understand them all but I could tell who marked it. Of course this has been of benefit as I progressed into doing my own layouts and it true I use different short hands based on the project and who will be building although I don't actually do this particular part of the process anymore. :)

[@semco72057]

I can tell more about how that house is going to look after each of your videos and I hope you are having a nice weekend.

[@tuckpoint2]

Good stuff. Enjoyed

[@jimensign2514]

Old, retired, and worn out now, but still enjoy learning something new each day. Thanks for your understandable explanations of the building trade.

[@paulbadger6336]

Well done 👍

[@marcijager6477]

I can't wait to see this house

[@MarsMan1]

*In my Life, I have noticed... I learn more from a "mistake" than from other methods! The mistakes stick with you and you don't make them again!* *A bad decision today will come back to haunt you tomorrow!* *Thanks for Sharing your Knowledge and Experience!*

[@cashhabits748]

@22:00 ish that's a podcast setup!please start one and bring on old friends in this field.And talk construction...That would be epic. Kepp up the good work..I work at a lumber yard and fabricate panels for concrete work.bridges carports u name it..oh wow watch till end u have a podcast beautiful

[@maxsnts]

The movie analogy was great

[@sleepy_143]

I can't tell you how many questions of mine you answered in this video! P. S. I love the podcasts between you and Nate!

[@4dangler]

Loving the channel as well as the podcast. Keep up the good work!

[@GibClark]

Good stuff as always👍👍👍👍

[@loganpatterson4674]

I’ll be following the podcast religiously

[@bcbloc02]

My house is a mix of baloon and timber frame, studs 30foot long are totally common, but then again they are 3x5's. Building has changed a lot in 200 years!!