ESTJ - Practitioner - LSE - Explained Correctly

[@annieperdue6140]

Estjs are underrated

[@chrisd.2831]

they are one of my favorite types! I love spending time with them and have some good friends that are LSE, more than from any other type.

[@Retrosenescent]

I love them

[@HoangNguyen-wt7yt]

They are the ones executing companies (although there are negative things in corporate world)😅

[@heaven-q6t]

underrated? more like over-appreciated

[@Heyokasireniei468sxso]

They sound like a traditional American father .Good job , I can see why the conflict even more , I wish I could say sorry to all the ones in the past who just tried to help but I took it as something else , and I can forgive them for being so frustrated with me because of my type , and their ignorance about it . They definitely sound like people you need on the team , good field leaders.

[@riesweetandsour]

Exactly! I’ve always called myself a middle class American dad - Asian female ESTJ

[@Heyokasireniei468sxso]

@@riesweetandsour omg have you ever seen fresh off the boat the mother i love her

[@kevinvictor911]

Nice video. I've also found that ESTJs can be more of a craftsman and practical minded than ISTPs.

[@riesweetandsour]

I knew you would. But it still feels amazing to hear you get us ESTJ’s so right. Thank you Jack!

[@eloy..]

The Sherlock Holmes sociotype, along with LIE so often idealized in anglosaxon countries.

[@Heyokasireniei468sxso]

For some reason i liked this video the most , your energy was so free and relaxed when speaking about it , Hopefully tomorrow we will get to see the next video EII right ?

[@VatIva]

Are you planning on making explained correctly Videos about Quadras? There are some huge misconceptions that should be debunked, and you are perfect for that job.

[@WorldSocionics]

Could do, I've been focusing on MBTI-recognised concepts, but as Chase decided to appropriate quadras, maybe I should

[@Lonewolf_77]

Explained simply and observable, waiting for your upcoming videos .

[@klp3309]

Can’t wait for you to get to the rest of delta quadra.

[@Apple_Teck]

Another tidbit, they are usually experts in the finer things and/or rare items.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

BRILLIANT

[@klp3309]

Trying to type someone that I think could be LSE. Would you say an unhealthy LSE may be inclined to over manage other people to make sure things are done the “right” way?

[@WorldSocionics]

Yes. That is exactly what happens when they are ill-developed. They become much more able to give space and freedom as they grow from Se into Ne.

[@somehow6456]

Next type description will be INFJ(Fi+Ne), stay in tune!!

[@neugroove6172]

Jack - if Ewan McGregor’s Obi-Wan was into typology.

[@Markbenwisch]

I had the same clue somehow! He really reminded me on Obi Wan as a teaching master. But I couldn't figure out what the reason was.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

The ignoring function is high in information. Low in energy.

[@Heyokasireniei468sxso]

what they really really really want spice girls lol

[@klp3309]

The person I’m thinking of does have a tendency to smoother things instead of delegating. How do I get them to stop?

[@WorldSocionics]

They have to realise this approach smothers potential growth of people and so ultimately doesn't work in line with their true values. They need to trust in the potential of others to grow through opportunity and them taking a step back.

[@mattevans8090]

I’m not sure sure that I’m an Estj- but I have always resented the idea that “it was never going to work”. To me that’s just hindsight bias with a pessimistic view. Now.. unlikely to work, is a different story!

[@Markku-p2d]

Director is better. Te element dynamic. Confused INFj's need most dynamic

[@jphone9200]

Sounds like a socionics I know as well

[@yellaperida7696]

Hello, Jack! What is your take on having MBTI and Socionics equivalence? Is it possible to have a different MBTI type and a different Sociotype (e.g. ESTP and LSE instead of SLE)?

[@WorldSocionics]

Different criteria will sometimes lead to different results. However, I don't think the MBTI types are logically coherent enough to really add value as a different result to the socionics result. Rather than say "I'm an ESTP LSE", I'd say "I'm an LSE and the MBTI misreads this as ESTP".

[@yellaperida7696]

@@WorldSocionics Thank you for the response! I have been reading different takes re: this matter. Would the descriptions differ depending on if one uses Classical Socionics vs Western Socionics? I have talked to someone who mentioned that if, for example, I am LSE, I must be MBTI ESTJ according to Classical Socionics. However, another one who discusses Socionics stated that an MBTI ESTP may manifest as SLE, LSE, and LIE at times. I am quite confused, but am very open to learn more! Functions-wise, I deeply relate to Se>Ti>Fe>Ni of ESTP, but at the same time, I relate to LSE of Socionics

[@WorldSocionics]

Western Socionics is Classical Socionics, in fact, most forms of socionics are. It's approaches like Humanitarian Socionics that deviate from classical. Se+Ti in the MBTI world is defined inaccurately, leading it to read as rather similar to Socionics Te+Si. @@yellaperida7696

[@yellaperida7696]

@@WorldSocionics Wow! That is so fascinating to learn. That mayhaps be the reason why I relate to Se>Ti of ESTP, then fall on LSE (Te+Si) on Socionics. Somebody said that if I am LSE, I must be MBTI ESTJ and it did not make sense

[@BigPapa64469]

Do iee now

[@ravenousrausch878]

Huh, I would almost consider this over sli

[@WorldSocionics]

well, let's see what you think of SLI when it comes out.

[@ravenousrausch878]

I bet it will be even cooler

[@jaredvaughan1665]

At least for the extroverts everyone knows who you are talking about by saying ESTJ. Jack new idea. Just do the small j and p for the introverted intuitives.

[@johanvandenbussche4479]

I already tried convincing Jack, but in his decision making not to do so (yet ...) his extraverted feeling was powerless against his introverted thinking 😉 Good try though to call upon his hero function by framing it as an idea 😉 I'm sure one day the insight will come that it's confusing to have a great channel about Socionics (possibly the best yet) ... and not follow one of the fundamental rules of the system

[@llunavermella_bloodmoon]

13:35 "holistically, what are they about at the end of the day". Yet you mistype so many people and don't listen to what you don't like.

[@carltonryleigh1772]

*Promosm*