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[@Android_ELITE]

He did a 3 part series on the midway battle. It's fantastic. They're long, but do consider watching them.

[@yukonau1153]

He mentioned that he watched the Japanese perspective of the midway battle which makes me believe he watched montemayor’s part 1 off camera. However, I hope he watches those videos anyway either on or off camera

[@hanvitlee6346]

I do too

[@gamezonehungary8512]

@@yukonau1153 he watched another vid on it what did not go into it very detailed , montemayor's series on it is way better then that

[@grpf1351]

@@gamezonehungary8512 The one he watched is like very bare bones and doesn't go into detail on both sides.

[@Madmok128]

@@gamezonehungary8512 his is better than the professor from the naval war colleges lecture lol

[@240Ldemon]

The loss of the Lexington would actually lead to a small change in procedure that would save a number of badly damaged american carriers later on. The explosions that would finish off the Lexington were at least in part, from the aviation fuel. The old way of doing things, was to simply shut off the lines once the aircraft were filled, leaving the lines full of aviation fuel, which could severely worsen fires if the lines were damaged. A Yorktown crewmen realized this and went to the Captain, suggesting that when under attack or not fueling planes, the lines should be purged and filled with CO2. This would become the standard procedure for all american carriers, while the Japanese would have problems with fuel fires on their carriers for the rest of the war.

[@MrSmithla]

I had read it was seawater in the lines. Either way, FAR better than having the highly combustible AV gas. I’ve never heard the Japanese doing anything of the sort. Overall, it seems, the IJN, philosophically, was ALL attack, NO defense (I don’t mean that LITERALLY, of course). The massive damage to Japanese carriers, most especially at Midway, off relatively few hits, 3-4 bombs (?) was due in large part, to the cavalier attitude to simple ship-saving techniques. I heard a very British quote on this that “Japanese ordnance and fuel handling would make modern personnel interested and concerned with such things go positively ‘gray.’” A funny effect of the American damage-control practices was the Japanese pilots’ habit of over-stating American losses. I believe the USS Enterprise, Halsey’s flagship, was reported sunk by the Japanese no fewer than SIX, I believe, times, yet survived to serve long after World War II as the most decorated ship in the US fleet, inspiring both Gene Roddenberry AND the founders of a rather famous rental car company.

[@MrSmithla]

Modern carrier operations would NEVER consist of ordnance just lying about in the hangar spaces. Similar strict regulations on fuel handling exist as well. It would a

[@MrSmithla]

It would appear that damage control is, basically, of the attitude toward the enemy, “You can sink this ship, but we’re not going to do ANYTHING to help you!”

[@CFarnwide]

Machinist Oscar W. Myers, the air fuel officer aboard Yorktown, had developed the carbon-dioxide purging system to expel vapors.

[@emwungarand]

regardless of how they handled the line, the torpedo hits ruptured the AVGAS tanks on the port side inner hull of the Lex. The vapors were leaking into the ship from multiple points and couldn't be tracked down.

[@vgpredator3]

Should do more Montemayor videos, he reviews a lot of battles (really good quality discussion).

[@BradMurray]

Montemayor is brilliant.

[@sethtalos8842]

He also posted parts two and three of the battle of Midway!

[@paradoxinteractive6202]

you should react to battle of leyte gulf largest naval battle in history it was a battle between USA and japanese

[@koolcatwithahat4997]

^^^

[@Strawberry-12.]

Get Ass that is disputed because we have no definite numbers of men and ships. But we do know it was big

[@shooterdownunder]

@Get Ass you should take the numbers with a grain of salt as the historical writers have a tendency to exaggerate the numbers

[@paradoxinteractive6202]

@Get Ass great video, thanks

[@BHuang92]

@Get Ass Also was the Battle of Red Cliffs in China

[@sushmarani7009]

OVERSIMPLIFIED!!! he uploded a another (2) videos

[@JoeBLOWFHB]

The Japanese planes were jettisoned because they were considered too damaged to repair.

[@pinoyflyboy1]

exactly

[@kdrapertrucker]

Well that, or the ship is badly damaged and cannot operate aircraft and the aircraft are now a fire danger. Aircraft are much easier to replace then carriers.

[@JoeBLOWFHB]

@@kdrapertruckerThe Zuikaku was undamaged in the battle of the Coral Sea it was hidden in a rain squal during most oif the battle her after action report was clear the aircraft were jettisioned due to their extremely poor condition not issues with the carrier.

[@MrSmithla]

The most famous and heart-wrenching episode similar to this is the USN pushing perfectly serviceable helicopters overboard during the evacuation of Saigon. Nothing wrong with the birds, in this instance, just needed the space.

[@kurth5597]

Also they are trying to recover two fleet carriers worth of planes onto one undamaged carrier. So the more damaged plane were pushed overboard, enabling room for additional operational aircraft to be landed, instead of ditching into the sea.

[@gamezonehungary8512]

yess its the video from Montemayor :) you could react to all parts of midway from him

[@Strawberry-12.]

36:44 one of the big reason American ships could take so Much damage is because American crews were the best at damage control

[@MrSmithla]

One of the innovations used by the Americans but NOT the Japanese was to stop the flow of Avgas during attack and flood those lines with seawater. In a bizarre irony, the crew hoped that those lines would be ruptured upon a successful attack as they would become huge water sprinklers and aid in fighting the fire. As was noted here, American carriers used wooden flight decks. Much later in the war, when British carriers began operating with the American fleet, it was noted that the steel decks of the British carriers limited the number of planes the Brits could carry but withstood the kamikaze attacks far more effectively. Look up the story of the USS Franklin story for both how unlucky a carrier could be and how tough they really were.

[@iKvetch558]

Holes in the flight deck do not automatically make it useless. It depends on where the holes are and how big they are. Many holes can also be repaired pretty quickly, at least enough to keep the carrier in operation. The Japanese were not as good as the Americans at these fast repairs...called damage control...but they did have some ability to fix their ships and get back into the action. Lexington could take much more punishment due to the fact that it had been originally constructed to be a battlecruiser before being changed to an aircraft carrier, and thus had pretty heavy armor for a carrier.

[@danielhenderson8316]

And it was 11 strikes in a Japanese LIGHT Carrier. They were built nowhere near as well as a mainline carrier and usually were converted into it from either a cruise or merchant ship. It WAS overkill. Most if the Midway carriers were killed by 3-4 bomb hits. Like iKvetch implied, just because you were hit by a bomb doesn't mean it didn't start a fire somewhere in the ship that shouldn't be on fire...

[@TheCsel]

Damage control in WW2 were pretty crazy at how fast they could fix things. Though a lot depended on the ship itself.

[@TheCsel]

Like you said the Lexington was partially built as a battlecruiser, but also British Carriers had armored decks, so they could shrug off some bomb and kamikaze attacks with minor damage.

[@MrSmithla]

iKvetch The Americans used wooden decks for their carriers and even under a training regimen the boards had to be regularly replaced. I’ve always found it noteworthy that, while this was an age of steel warships, EVERY ship and ESPECIALLY carriers had a significant number of carpenters and wood-working specialists in addition to a veritable forest of wood aboard them. It was easier, when making repairs at sea, even after an attack, to fashion some sort of make-shift support out of hard pine rather than to try to machine something out of metal that may squeak or rattle. Forests of trees had to be felled to support the operations of all metal shi

[@craiglortie8483]

@@TheCsel THE FLIGHT DECKS WERE WOOD AND EASILY PATCHED. sry caps. my grand uncle and i discussed this for a history report i did in 6th grade. unless they were missing an elevator or the whole deck section, no more than 24 hrs. with all hands to repair it.

[@P99s-s]

perfect timing for this upload, the other parts of midway are out

[@laureloakley378]

My father was a Marine in the Pacific until 1944 when he was injured! He was in the Signal corps and stationed on Tuvalu near Guadalcanal!

[@joshuasanborn3958]

At 16:30 they are talking about refuelling the ship's. In ww2 most US ships were steam turbine powered requiring fuel oil. This had to be replinshed every 10 to 14 days.

[@rg20322]

Montemayor is the best and provides an unbiased view of WW2. He is so thorough with his videos and just released the Midway 2 and 3 videos. He's awesome how he documents these historic events, and simply from a historic and extended view.

[@countrytownify]

Definitely watch “The battle of Somar- Odds, what are those?” By Drachinifel. It involves the battleship Yamato leading a far superior Japanese force getting stopped in their tracks by a small group of escort ships, all of whom together displaced less than the Yamato. Drachinifel is an amazing storyteller.

[@Mitheledh]

Taffy 3 definitely punched above it's weight class that day.

[@zackmarkham4240]

Murphy's Law is very important to military battles, War time or otherwise; If anything can go wrong, it will go wrong.

[@big_-guy102]

No that's Cunningham's

[@zackmarkham4240]

@@big_-guy102 I see what you're doing there. And I don't like it.

[@big_-guy102]

@@zackmarkham4240 hehehe

[@hyperpvp8823]

Brain too small to understand

[@kurth5597]

“No plan survives first contact with the enemy" A piece of military wisdom deriving from a formulation by the nineteenth-century Prussian military commander Helmuth van Moltke

[@aygian1176]

React to Oversimplified's Russian Revolution.

[@nikoscharalampidis4688]

Yes is epik

[@YouT00ber]

That was a good recommendation

[@bbrewe71]

Yes do it please

[@susanmaggiora4800]

It’s interesting that this is basically both side’s 1st foray into major naval combat. It shows the importance of experience when it comes to combat scenarios.

[@alexsmith6281]

Just so you know, the next oversimplified video came out! It is a 2 parter on the Russian Revolution!

[@joekelly6393]

Thanks to you I am now a proud owner of a rohje watch. Love the quality and the reindeer leather strap is so comfortable. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@phraya_techapit9910]

A new Oversimplified​ video had been released.

[@samtornatore1627]

As a 60 year old of the USA, I have heard about the battles you speak of many times. But you do such an excellent job that I always learn new things.

[@DutchTunisian]

Love your vids artur! Keep up the good work!

[@vibeshark3646]

All I’m going say is that I’ve been addicted to watching all your videos for the past month and I love them, keep up the great work.

[@kickbackj3855]

OverSimplifies made 2 videos on the Russian Revolution. It definitely seems like something youd be interested in watching.

[@danieldejulio6111]

Woot ! Thanks for the great vid Artur!!

[@anthonyjedi6998]

Thank you, Artur, for the content(and the music) I have learned more about the military and Estonia than anywhere else

[@BradMurray]

The Japanese couldn't keep all their aircraft (had to push some off the decks) because the Shokaku had left the region -- two strike groups of aircraft were launched but only one carrier to return to. With insufficient hangar space they couldn't store the excess aircraft on the decks as that would stop or slow fight operations.

[@albertocoss3240]

If you ever visit Texas you can see the USS Lexington in Corpus Christi and the USS Texas in Pasadena.

[@positivepioneer4991]

Wait i thought the USS Texas was in San Jacinto

[@JLBeaugh]

@@positivepioneer4991 It is located at San Jacinto Battleground State Park, where Santa Anna lost his fight against Sam Houston; Pasadena is one the cities that is adjacent to the park.

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

Yeah but it's not the original Lexington.

[@MrSmithla]

This USS Lexington wasn’t the same as at Coral Sea. That one was sunk but a more modern Essex-class carrier was named in its honor. I want to say the one in Corpus was in service even as late as Vietnam, but don’t hold me to that.

[@thebigitchy]

In WWII, planes were thrown overboard if they were too damaged to repair. There’s no point in keeping a wreck onboard since it takes up valuable hanger space.

[@MrSmithla]

The same sad image is depicted in the evacuation of Saigon where helicopters were pitched overboard for the sake of space.

[@chaos-k8145]

Arthur Rehi, Oversimplified uploaded a new videos called *”Russian Revolution”* there are 2 Parts, and since you seem to enjoy oversimplified videos I think you might like this! Chow!

[@devonlord99]

“The invading party would land and Port Moresby would be taken” 4:46 😂 how’d that work out for ‘em 🇦🇺

[@idontwantmyrealnameonhere5955]

Never could of happened. australia is too epic.

[@starfox2134]

Yea, aircraft carriers are pretty tough to take down. They did a test years back against an old decommissioned US career and it ended up having to be sunk with preplanted explosions in certain places. Lots of planes and ships attacked it, but couldn't sink it. And, as a recommendation, I think you would like the newest Desert Storm vid by The Operations Room. It goes into detail about the first day of the Desert Storm air war, and is pretty fun to watch.

[@jsl151850b]

How do current Aircraft Carriers deal with the Exocet antiship missile??

[@MrSmithla]

jsl151850b 1) Killing the ship or aircraft that carries them BEFORE they launch 2) AA missiles from the escorts 3) Launching decoys, such as flares, from escort ships to spoof the missile 4) CIWS from escorts and the carrier itself. That’s pretty much the order with a HEAVY emphasis on #1

[@MrSmithla]

It’s a layered defense

[@MrSmithla]

There’s also a great, I want to say National Geographic or Discovery Channel documentary on the intentional sinking of an out of service Canadian Guided Missile Destroyer or small Cruiser. All crew, power plant, weapons and communications had long since been removed but, essentially, GoPros were installed all over the place so weapons scientist could really see what was happening. A spot where the wreck could become a future reef had been selected and then that tough old Canuck was hit with everything and I mean everything: air launched missiles from Canadian F/A 18s, naval gunfire from an American warship, torpedoes, all of it. So you’ve got an unpowered, uncrewed hulk, no one doing any damage control and EVERY weapon launched at it hit because it was motionless and it hung on for, oh gosh, the better part of a day of the most unbelievable abuse possible. On a personal note, I broke into tears when the Canadian ship began its death throes and slipped under water, the American warship unfurled this IMMENSE battle-flag and fired its guns to show respect and give the old ship a ‘proper burial.’ It was one of the most respectful and honorable gestures I’ve ever seen. Truly memorable and awe-inspiring.

[@quasar7951]

Oversimplified released the Russian Revolution

[@cfromcass]

I know some of our carriers had fire control systems that were advanced at the time. This allowed them to bring fires under control quicker. Under way mean the ship can move. How much damage topside means how much she can fight.

[@FencerPTS]

These types of videos (historical) are my favorites.

[@Adiscretefirm]

Montemayor just released parts 2 and 3 of his excellent Midway trilogy.

[@Naldo2001]

Today Aug. 14, is Navajo Code Talker Day in the U.S., they were Marines who served in WW2, using Navajo language as an unbreakable code. There were other tribes who also used the tactic in other operations of WW2. Maybe you can do a video reacts to Navajo Code Talkers. at 6:37 that's the Navajo Nation flag on the right. haha awesome.

[@jacobm6041]

It's crazy I used to keep up with your channel and now your getting an insane abmmount of veiws inn 3 hours now! Awesome! Great content

[@somenubscrub]

I want to be in a revolution in a oversimplified video taking place in Russia (If I’m not clear, then oversimplified made a new video)

[@cfromcass]

Once an enemy ship is spotted you have to get the info to command who orders a strike. Land base planes are equipped and sent out. By the time they reach the last known location the target has moved. Unless the enemy just happens upon you. Other videos talk about the "Fog Of War". That's what happened here.

[@aethyr6776]

Bear in mind that the Lexington was laid down as a battlecruiser first, and converted to a carrier while under construction to comply with the Washington naval treaty. I believe they removed most of the armor that had been planned, but her hull was still that of a very different ship type. This is also why she was almost 20k tons heavier than Yorktown and her sisters. That's quite a bit of ship to put down.

[@DerCharacter]

Monteynemor just posted the final 2 parts of his midway trilogy!

[@MikeHawksBig69]

Battle of Leyte Gulf, please react to this battle. The biggest naval battle.

[@yoboijc9398]

HEY ARTHUR OVERSIMPLIFIED POST OMG

[@Battlestargroup]

To answer your question the Lexington’s strength in withstanding the bombs and torpedos, her and her sister Saratoga were originally built as battlecruisers and later converted during construction to be carriers. So they had the armor of the BC with the torpedo belt and semi thick hull plating. Something that could’ve save Lex would be having a steel flight deck like the Brits has for their carriers; those could withstand and ricochet bombs up to 500 pounds.

[@MrSmithla]

I’m sure a man of your experience wouldn’t discount the importance of the focus on damage control in the USN, especially compared to the IJN. For instance, Americans habitually flooded the avgas lines from the bunkers in the belly with seawater. Ja

[@MrSmithla]

I’ve never read that the Japanese followed suit with this simple and effective measure at firefighting and damage control. Add to that the Japanese pilots’ predilecti

[@MrSmithla]

Predilection for habitually OVER-stating strike results. Pilots would frequently report several times the number of American carriers sunk as were even present. I believe it was USS Enterprise was reported sunk no fewer than, I believe, 6 times, though it survived the war intact. I want to say Yorktown was reported sunk (as 2 different carriers!) at Midway, though it was sunk/scuttled by Destroyer-launched torpedoes.

[@antoniotrew8131]

Artur my Estonian brotha I love your long videos, we need more of them😎

[@qp2qp226]

Want to see something interesting look up "Wind Talkers" (not the movie) its americas version of coded messaging during WWII. While other countries used variations of their own language, America simply used someone else's language all together.

[@lidlett9883]

During WW2 a bombing attack considered a success was 5 bomb hits from a squadron of bombers.

[@GG-mi3bu]

iam actually saving for a rohje. Those watches are amazing looking and love that it comes from a vet.

[@NoahLoydOG]

One of the important differences in the carriers talked about here is that the Shoho would be considered a light, or escort, carrier compared to the rest, which would be considered Fleet Carriers (far larger.) The Lexington, in fact, was laid down as an experimental battlecruiser meant to rival German battleships and battlecruisers, but was finished with a flat deck as a carrier instead (though she retained several 8-inch gun turrets.) For Shoho, the damage she received was significantly more than was necessary to destroy what was essentially an unarmored light cruiser, while the fleet carriers could sustain very heavy punishment in comparison, barring a lucky hit like the Japanese carrier Taiho exploded from (also caused by poor damage control on the part of her crew.) The other big difference was that the US constructed their carriers with armored flight decks, as opposed to essentially all other nations, whose carriers neglected armor on the deck. While not all US carriers had this armor, it did make a noticeable difference in performance against dive bombers, while Japanese carriers were very vulnerable to having the hangars and ammo storage detonated by bombs crashing through the deck, as we see at Midway.

[@phosophorus8622]

19:58 When you think about it, the Japanese in WW2 are very well known to be overly aggressive with their attacks. Like charges, kamikazes, etc. And it's often to their detriment. So without the power of hindsight, Hara kind of made the right decision when you think about it.

[@danielhenderson8316]

Not at this time. This was the time where everything was the best for Japan. Their best leaders were in the best ships flown by their best pilots. Maximum damage needed to occur now because it would never be this good again by the design of the Japanese Navy. The Japanese never thought to ship some of their best home to train new pilots/soliders. After Guadalcanal, all their experienced pilots and soliders had been killed. They had to resort to kamakazi tactics because they were putting people like you and me into planes and telling us to fight trained and experienced US pilots. That's only going to end badly, and Midway would have been taking it Japan has 6 carriers vs. just Enterprise and Hornet.

[@ajalvarez3111]

@@danielhenderson8316 Actually, Japan could have had 8 carriers at Midway but poor intelligence (they thought the US would only have 2 carriers tops at Midway) and over complicated planning sent 2 carriers to the Aleutian Islands in support of troop landings there. Dumb.

[@trevynlane8094]

Quick note on kamikazes: they don't appear until the battle of Leyte Gulf, in 1944.

[@kdrapertrucker]

Not as an organized force, but japanese aircraft too crippled to return to their base would often crash into enemy targets throughout the war.

[@trevynlane8094]

@@kdrapertrucker all sides did that. The Japanese were just did it more frequently then most.

[@sscott016]

That dude also has A Navajo Nation Flag , much love from Colorado brother.... Stay safe back at home # DinePride

[@TheShredworthy]

Great video as always! Thanks, and keep up the good work, from the grandson of Gunner's Mate 1st Class Paul Hunt, serving aboard USS Lexington, latter USS Bogue.

[@potatojuice5124]

Wow I’m early Edit: they ditched aircraft off the flight decks if they were in a condition that they were unable to be repaired.

[@ajzwiebel]

Also, remember that the Japanese launched their attack from 2 aircraft carriers. However, when the aircraft returned to land only one aircraft carrier remained. The Shokaku was damaged in the battle and had to retreat without its aircraft. There was simply not enough room for all the aircraft on only 1 aircraft carrier. Yes, they would have ditched the damaged ones first.

[@Joemama-cu9fz]

Watch his vidoes on Hiryu’s counter offensive and America’s perspective in midway

[@jirkalp4215]

OverSimplified made a new video about The Russian Revolution!

[@markbauer3937]

Another great video! Keep it up, Artur!

[@mariahernandez-zc6nw]

Lady Lex (USS Lexington) was recovered and now sits in Corpus Christi where you can tour her. We call her the "Blue Ghost" and many Naval Reenlistment Ceremonies are still conducted there.

[@knowack2843]

That's a different Lexington. Lexington CV-2 'Lady Lex' sunk at Coral Sea. Its namesake, Lexington CV-16 'The Blue Ghost' ended it's career as a training carrier; the last Essex-class carrier in commission.

[@mariahernandez-zc6nw]

@@knowack2843 ah shoot you are right, I completely forgot the gave another ship the same name, 4 of them last I checked. But good catch, thanks for the correction.

[@ryangarcia985]

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[@wademaierhofer1322]

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[@das_leo7583]

Artur I’ve been a fan of your content for a couple of months now and I really love your historical reaction videos, so I wanted to recommend the siege of Jadotville for you to react to, I hope you see this and again love your channel 👍

[@nicholaslienemann1912]

Montemayor uploaded the final part to the Midway series recently.

[@shocktrooper2622]

The Lexington and Saratoga were conversions of battlecruisers so they had higher than average armor compared to purpose built aircraft carriers. The British also went with armored flight decks (at the cost of aircraft carried) and the US would follow suit for th 40,000t Midway Class at the very end of the war. Japan also had some converted battlecruisers for a few of their carriers, and also tried the armored flight deck later on. The largest thing to note in the early war in the pacific is just damage control and the fact that compared to the Americans, Japan was severely lacking in this regard.

[@knowack2843]

The British also designed their carriers with armored flight decks because they expected to fight in the North Atlantic and Mediterranean, where they would be in range of land-based aircraft. This also made them more top-heavy and somewhat less stable than American carriers, which were built with Pacific operations in mind, and whose armored deck was the hangar deck.

[@shocktrooper2622]

@@knowack2843 Yep, that's also another thing to note.

[@matthewnoto9380]

"How strong are these ships?" The Lexington class carriers began life as battlecruisers. They carried heavier armor than cruisers, but less than battleships. So, they were quite well-protected. Later carriers would dispense with much of this armor to gain speed, and dispense with deck armor altogether, as American carriers in the Pacific did not usually expect to be attacked by the plunging shellfire of enemy ships, like British carriers could expect in more-confined European waters (British carriers retained all of their deck armor, and were better-protected from Kamikazes later in the war because of it) Both (Lexington and Saratoga) were converted to aircraft carriers while still building, under the terms of the London Naval Treaties of the 1920's and 30's (both ships would be launched in 1927, I think. The Yorktown class (Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet) would be launched in the early 1930's). The Japanese would have a similar circumstance with their Akagi-class carriers, which started as battleships before being converted. The amount of damage needed to sink a ship, especially an aircraft carrier, depended on a variety of factors: 1. Armor, as just discussed 2. Water-tight integrity (compartmentalization below decks) 3. Machinery spacing and redundancy 4. Most important, damage control methods and efficiency. Throughout the war, Americans were better at damage control and had more resources to repair damaged ships than the Japanese. One of the major weaknesses of the Imperial Japanese Navy was that it so tightly focused on offensive action and capabilities, that it often neglected the more-mundane-but-necessary aspects of war at sea, like underway replenishment, convoy of merchant vessels, damage control techniques, adequate reconnaissance methods, which came back to haunt them at almost every major engagement of the war. One of their biggest flaws of all was command structure: Japanese admirals were given a plan to adhere to, and did not dare improvise when the plan went to shit. Improvisation and an ability to deviate from The Plan might have saved the Japanese carrier fleet at Midway, it might have turned Coral Sea into a decisive victory. Their continuous quest to achieve surprise in every engagement also caused lots of problems with co-ordinating operations. Another failure, is that while we generally view the Japanese through the lens of the Bushido Code, ad honorable warriors of great bravery and daring, Japanese admirals tended to be very timid and often broke off successful operations when they were on the verge of success (see: Coral Sea, Savo island, Battle of Santa Cruz, Battle of Samar) for fear of losing ships that could not be replaced by Japanese industry.

[@TexasGreed]

Imagine a full scale modern carrier fleet battle. Shit would be terrifying. Swarms of fighters, giant missiles flying from ships over the horizon. It would be a fight to take out the enemies radar ships and anti aircraft launchers.

[@MrSmithla]

Comparing a modern carrier battle to the carrier vs carrier battles of WWII is somewhat problematic. Modern navies would consider the ranges at which, for instance, the Coral Sea battle took place to be like a ‘knife fight in a phone booth.’ With improved surveillance opposing carriers would never get anywhere close to 100mi apart. I’ve read that evading a single surveillance satellite isn’t overly difficult, seeing as how we know the locations and courses of all relevant satellites. I’ve read evading two is difficult but not impossible. Three? Fuhgedaboutit! Taking out the relevant satellites would be very high priority for fleet protection but performed, most likely, by the Air Force. Then a carrier fleet itself has orders of magnitude better intrinsic surveillance from 70+ years ago. A full-fledged attack on a carrier task force would certainly be chaotic. Conventional wisdom would call for some sort of synchronized ‘swarming’ attack, involving OTH cruise missile attack, air-launched attacks and, preferably sub-launched torpedo attacks. The idea would be to threaten the carrier task group with as many simultaneous threats as possible to overwhelm the escorts’ and carrier’s defenses and allow as much ordnance to penetrate the defensive screen and strike home. To actually sink a carrier w

[@chuckt9us]

The early years of the War in the Pacific the Japanese Navy Pilots were the best trained (hand picked from jr high) most experienced (years of combat time) in the world and the best Naval fighter in the world (Zero). The problem for Japan was the small pool of pilots and the sacrifice of those pilots. American pilots were well trained but had no experience. American policy was to rotate pilots out and have them train the next generation of pilots before returning to "The Front". The combination of better and better training, a new fighter (F6F Hellcat), American industry kicking into gear ground The Japanese Navy down. By the end they were throwing teenagers in to planes. Then the Kamikaze.

[@qp2qp226]

By time this event took place we had refined the Double Hull ships with better protective belt around the hull just below the water line to bulk up protection against torpedoes. As for the flight deck: Japanese sacrifice armor to gain speed. Americans added more armor for better protection. Also allowing for quicker repairs too. The industries of both countries very greatly, Japan had limitations to what they could accomplish from the start. America had much much more resources at their disposal then Japan. Not only did they produce items for the war for its own military, it was running major supply line to Allies on its east coast side long before even stepping into the war. Yamamoto knew this and which is why even though he was against it followed through on the pearl harbor attack. He knew that if they failed they would not last to the end of the war against America. He had attended college in america on the east coast, he knew well what the full might of america would bring.

[@aethyr6776]

You are right about the industrial imbalance and Yamamoto being well aware of that. However, I'm sorry to tell you you are very wrong about the flight decks. The US wouldn't use armored flight decks until the Midway class, while the Japanese had at least a few carriers with armored flight decks during the war. Drachinifel has a couple videos on the subject. Of course, the British built CVs with armored flight decks. The exception to this was the Ark Royal, which was designed more for operations in the Pacific before they realized they had a bigger threat closer to home. British CVs after that had armored flight decks, since the North Sea and the Mediterranean were the most likely operational areas. Unlike in the Pacific, those areas are much more confined and basically always in range of land-based aircraft. So you couldn't hide, and you were going to take hits. Hence the armored decks.

[@qp2qp226]

@@aethyr6776 thank you for the correction, I will research better next time. 😉

[@victorwaddell6530]

I was a US Navy Operations Specialist ( radar operator ) from 1985 to 1995. A lot of the lessons learned from these battles were a part of our training . Radar was in its infancy in WW2 , the British and US forces had a great advantage over the Axis powers in this technology.

[@Nyx_2142]

I highly recommend watching Montemayor's videos on the Japanese perspective of Midway. Its a 3 part series that he finished a few days ago.

[@JM-ji9kx]

Japanese forces did technically end up invading Australia in January 1944, though it was only a few officers from a reconnaissance party on a small fishing boat. They kinda just left after a day or so. Also, if you want an idea of the immensity of American production...on the eve of Pearl Harbor America had just 7 Fleet Carriers and 1 Escort Carrier. By May 1945 the US Pacific Fleet boasted 28 Fleet Carriers and 71 Escort Carriers. America also produced 300,000 war planes, 73,000 of which went to the US Navy and Marine Corps in the Pacific.

[@jorritvanderkooi939]

Keep in mind, sometimes just cruisers or battleships with 2 or more airplane catapults was considered an ‘escort carrier’

[@protorhinocerator142]

Early in the war across the Pacific, Japan had already converted a lot of their navy to aircraft carriers. The USA was still thinking along the lines of battleships, while aircraft carriers were more of a curiosity. Japan learned the lesson demonstrated by Billy Mitchell, while America did not. Japan ran amok over Pearl Harbor and laid waste to Battleship Row. As for Pearl Harbor, the carriers were all missing. The Japanese had plenty of battleships to blow up, but no carriers. This adds to the impression that FDR saw the attack coming and had the Navy pull all the carriers out. He did want America to enter the war, and Pearl Harbor gave him that opening. America began making more carriers but were behind the curve. America spent the early days of the conflict playing defense. Japan already controlled most of the Pacific. Destroying the Japanese carriers early made a huge difference. This meant their pilots couldn't train new pilots. Toward the end, Japan had no pilots. The kamikaze warriors were trained enough to take off and just barely control their planes. They didn't need to know how to turn around or land. Just aim for something big and gray, and ram right into it. If it's a flat top, so much the better. Japan knew the value of carriers. Also by the end of the war, the Americans were closing in on Japan. Instead of sending in aircraft carriers, that could be sunk, America invested in technology that allowed longer range bombers. This allowed America to keep invading small islands and establishing new airfields. This tactic was called "island hopping". Japan made it hard to capture those islands, and extracted a steep price in blood for each. Eventually it was not enough. America got close enough to launch long-range bombers on mainland Japan. Then of course, the atomic bomb would mean the end of the war.

[@hahanatorz5309]

I haven't watch this channel for a long time

[@Eatmydbzballs]

Drachinifel's video on the Battle off Samar (also known as the Battle of Leyte Gulf) is really something. You should definitely watch it.

[@crowscurge]

you deserve more subs for this content

[@AidanG925]

my grandpa fought in this battle and the battle of midway and was on the yorktown as an AA gunner

[@UntiltedName]

My grandfather was in most of the later battles in the Pacific on the USS Boston. He was a quad bofors gunner. But she (the Boston) did not make it out to the Pacific until 1943. I have a large amount of his memorabilia from this time, including photo albums and journals and documents.

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Love the video man! He just released a part two to The battle of the coral sea! Also, I have a younger cousin who's in the Air force reserves.

[@jtcash2005]

Check out the "Code Talkers" , Native Americans whoes language was used as a military code. Bing: "During World War II, an elite team of Navajos left their homes to join the US Marine Corps and solve a communications challenge. In the Pacific, many of the US combat codes had been cracked by the Japanese army and navy, leaving US troops vulnerable to attack by Axis forces. But in 1942, the first 29 Navajo recruits helped develop a new undecipherable code. They used common words and phrases from their tribal language to convey some messages and created special codes to describe military terms; for instance, various weapons of war were assigned Navajo bird names. Code Talkers could encode, send, and decode a three-line English message text-without error-in roughly 20 to 150 seconds. It took machines of the day at least 30 minutes, sometimes longer, to do the same thing."

[@MrSmithla]

Technically the use of Navajo was not a code, per se. The advantage was that the Native language could be used ‘in the clear,’ unencoded. The Japanese realized the Americans were using a Native American language and, I believe, even identified it as, specifically, Navajo. They scoured their POW camps and, ap

[@MrSmithla]

Apparently found a single, identifiable Navajo speaker. They worked the poor soul over and forced his cooperation. This individual couldn’t properly translate what he heard for the reason you stated. The language was Navajo but it was, to this man’s ears, gibberish. He heard references to, for instance, “turtles walking in the forest”: tanks in the trees, but he, of course, didn’t know that.

[@MrSmithla]

You’ll notice that so many battles in the Pacific boil down to the small areas of land and which ‘passage’ the enemy will choose. If you guess the two, possibly TINY bits of land that your enemy will choose to use, you’re a hero. In the extended Battle of Guadalcanal, Japanese sorties of ships down ‘the Slot,’ were often detected not by fancy radar or air searches but by Mk 1 - eyeballs belonging to, predominantly, Australian coast watchers in possession of shortwave radios to the Americans. Generally speaking ships in the middle of the vast Pacific were, by and large, safe. The chances of intercepting even a fleet at sea is rather low. When ships travel near land, though, the chance of detection rises precipitously.

[@itzdylan7665]

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[@theportuguesehistorian6093]

OVERSIMPLIFIED uploaded again. It’s on the Russian Revolution

[@mclovinU2night]

Also a good carrier attack for accuracy would be the battle of taranto. Alot of carriers were dealing with wooden decks until the Essex class so it was easy to damage a ship severely. Only the Americans had a great reputation in damage control in saving ships. I dont remember in history about issues with elevators other than atagi having a bomb go through its elevator at midway, if the elevators are destroyed then the carrier is inoperable since all the ordinances are below.

[@zhubajie6940]

Ages ago I had a grizzled old neighbor who was on the Lex as a cook during the Battle of the Coral Sea. He later was on the Saratoga. I was too young to ask more questions. He like many veterans only mentioned it in passing.

[@americankid7782]

This guy is worth watching. Both of them.

[@deadfreightwest5956]

Hey, Artur, I just got my Rohje Antarctica watch, No. 159 / 200. Holy smokes, this thing is boss! Guys, seriously, if you want a absolute stunner of a timepiece, visit Rohje via Artur's link in the description. Mine was made on the 10th of August and arrived on the 13th.

[@arturrehi]

Truly ;)

[@kemal1232]

@@arturrehi React to the Russian Revolution by Oversimplified

[@maxfilkins-decker9642]

I’ve been on the Yorktown in a naval museum in Charleston’s South Carolina

[@knowack2843]

Patriot's Point is an amazing place! That Yorktown (CV-10) was named in honor of the Yorktown (CV-5) lost at Midway.

[@angeladaley]

The Yorkown is now a museum. It's erie to walk around the ship knowing its history. My Uncle was on the USS Cabot, look it up.

[@ristusnotta1653]

i have noticed that to foreigners the term "conscript" is pretty unknown, there is a good video on Finnish Defence Forces YT channel named "conscript", would really like you to check it out, it is something every Finnish male has to go trough once they turn 18 years old, kind of a milestone in the Finnish man's life, the one that officially turns the boy into a man and conscription has been used so long here that it has became part of the Finnish culture, also clarifies the term to foreigners and the video gives an introduction of the FDF training

[@ristusnotta1653]

In Estonia you got conscription too so you can compare the events and training

[@MrAlex_Raven]

To be honest, I thought the first action involving aircraft carriers was the British versus the Italians, but I may be remembering it incorrectly. Edit few minutes later: Oh, first battle between carriers on both sides of the fight. I had forgotten.

[@MrSmithla]

No, you’re not. The British strike on Taranto with antiquated wooden biplanes was an inspiration for the IJN’s attack on Pearl.

[@alexblankenship7831]

The holes in the sides of the ships have to be about the size of a person to wound an aircraft carrier do to the size and thickness of the hull

[@MrSmithla]

There’s a GREAT video called ‘The Physics of Dive Bombing.” To put it in perspective, from 20,000ft, a ship as large as a carrier has the same aspect as a ladybug on the toe of your shoe while you’re standing up. Add to that, as you pointed out, the ship/ladybug is m

[@MrSmithla]

Ship/ladybug is moving, your eye/the level-bomber is moving and the bombs take.... oh gosh, somebody do the math, please. 20,000 ft at 32ft/Sec/Sec. It’s a not an inconsequential amount of time. The ships would be moving upwards of, say, 25 knots/hour. That’s, what, at least half a nautical mile/min? Just a glance at the numbers shows why dive bombing was always to be preferred. Now, even dive bombing had guidelines that experienced pilots learned to ignore. Accounts of dive bombing in the Pacific, especially later in the war, of Allied dive bombers “pressing their attacks especially closely.” I believe regulations stated planes should release at 1500ft. Accounts of American pilots holding their dives and releases MUCH lower to ensure hits.

[@MrSmithla]

Even this video talked about an American pilot releasing below the guidelines, scoring a hit but losing his plane and crew’s life.

[@clintlarvenz2570]

Lexington was a battle cruiser that was converted into an aircraft carrier thats why she was able to shrug off some hits.

[@lordpatriot445]

I love WW2 history and yet never heard of this battle

[@timmooney7528]

Planes probably had to be pushed off if the deck was damaged, and planes could not be moved to another location in order for other planes to land.

[@arandomyorkshireman9678]

You should react to Russian revolution by oversimplified

[@kennethbedwell5188]

Need to react to the Battle of Iron Bottom Sound. And Taffy 3. At that time, the US was using wooden decking for their Aircraft carriers. Their damage control crews could chop out the holes and replace them extremely fast. However this came at the cost of being more vulnerable to fire. Also, at this time, US equipment was trash. Wildcats were no match for Zero’s, they were heavier, slower and less maneuverable. Their advantages were they had armor, self sealing tanks (unlike the Zero) and could take more damage . If a Wildcat could hit a Zero, it would kill it. SBD’s and TBD’s had brave crews but they were shitty. Slow, unmaneuverable and either the Torpedoes didn’t explode or the electric arming switch was faulty and release the bomb early. The US was a Depression era army trying to become a modern army to fight a modern war. It would be late 1942/ 1943 before the US was ready for that. Why do you think the US Island hopping strategy really didn’t get going until late 1943/1944. Or D-Day didn’t take place until June 6 1944.

[@BHuang92]

The SBD did fairly well in its role unlike the TBD which was hopelessly obsolete far beyond then it should've been. In Midway, all four Japanese carriers were sunk by SBD Dauntless bombers and continued to serve up until the end of WW2 where it served as primary bombers for escort carriers and other roles aside naval use. Some of the equipment didnt work but those that did were greatly improved upon. Plus, the U.S had another major advantage, beside greater resources, is the manpower and professionalism that was shared. The Japanese heavily relied on their best soldiers to carry on to the front lines where they stayed. Losses like Midway proved devastating to Japanese resources and professionalism. The majority of Japan's fighting elite sank before their eyes, never to recover again. The U.S however, were able to transfer their best soldiers to training schools once their time in the front lines was out. They build up more and more of professionalism to the point that the U.S Navy became one of, if not, the best naval forces in the world. So the island hopping strategy was built on lessons they learn along the way. The U.S was right to hold up until they have the right moment to strike.

[@MrSmithla]

The Iron Bottom battle was related to the landings on Guadalcanal. Taffy 3 was a famous part of the Battle of Leyte Gulf. Both are awesome stories. In December of ‘41 America’s military was smaller than every combatant and, for instance, Portugal. That would be total military personnel. The US Navy was larger in ships but, for instance, 50 destroyers were in mothballs and traded to England for bases in Jamaica during Lend-Lease.

[@shawnc1016]

Once U.S. pilots figured out their respective strengths and weaknesses, Wildcats were more than a match for Zeros. Six of them took on and bettered 20 Zeros at Midway.

[@MrSmithla]

shawnc101 Well, the fighter pilots were overjoyed to fly Hellcats and Corsairs. I’ve never heard of an account of a pilot willingly choosing a Wildcat over a Hellcat. The capture of a more or less intact Zero in Alaska (and a FW-190 mistakenly landing on a British airfield) meant the Allies could study, fly and take apart, bolt by bolt, two particularly feared airplanes. The Hellcat was a direct result of these tests. The Hellcat, made by Grumman as the Wildcat was, kept the (few) advantages of the Wildcat (armor plating, ruggedness, self-sealing fuel tanks, superior performance in a dive) and added a more powerful engine, I want to say super-charger (though I’m not 100% sure on that one). It’s almost like, from what I’ve read, two SETS of tactics existed to offset offset the Zero’s advantages. Claire Chennault lectured his Flying Tigers to NEVER try to dogfight a Zero. They were flying P-40 Warhawks, like the Wildcat, heavier and slower than the Zeros. Chennault advocated climbing, diving on a Zero, continuing down until reaching clear airspace, then climbing again, rinse & repeat.

[@shawnc1016]

@@MrSmithla The Wildcats were a match for the Zeros. You said they weren't. The newer planes were obviously superior.

[@Thextoastxisxbob]

That Japanese air crew deciding to turn back and lead the next attack was very honorable and courageous.

[@matthewnoto9380]

Re: Ineffectiveness of carrier strikes at this time in the war, it was an entirely new form of warfare and neither side was quite certain how to do it correctly. Check out the battle of the Philippine Sea, 18 months later, to see how it evolved into a deadly-effective method.

[@MrSmithla]

In fast-paced carrier warfare, where a mere 5-15min delay in launching, recovering or rearming can cost the battle, it often wasn’t necessary to sink a carrier. In a certain way of looking at it, the carrier itself meant nothing. The carrier’s ability to conduct air operations was the issue. An afloat, underway carrier that couldn’t conduct air operations was less lethal than even a destroyer. At Midway, the Yorktown conducted flight operations, was then hit and couldn’t for several hours, waved its planes to another carrier, then returned to air operations, then was hit again, ultimately causing its scuttling. So the number of carriers available to the Americans varied from hour to hour. Also recall the Japanese carrier that survived the Coral Sea had to put in for repairs that eliminated it from the Japanese order of battle for Midway. Extensive repairs to capital ships, especially on the Japanese side could only be achieved in a very limited number of ports. So, we may not have known where an enemy carrier was coming into a battle. But if a carrier was struck hard enough a priority for the submarine service would be to patrol the approaches to those major repair facilities after the engagement. This task was often easier given the common habit of struck ships trailing a river of fuel oil all the way from the spot of being hit into port. A not so well known Japanese carrier, from memory the Shinano was struck minutes into its first ever voyage by a US submarine. It was, literally slid down the ramp of its moorings and sunk while on the Japanese roll of ships for mere hours only. My point is while the notion ‘sinking a ship,’ seems fairly cut and dried, it often took multiple attacks and ship types to finally make it happen.

[@bradleynugent4991]

The Yorktown was repaired in less than a month and played an important role in the battle of midway

[@aethyr6776]

Yes and no. Yorktown only spent a grand total of 48 hours or so in drydock before putting to sea again for the Battle of Midway, which makes the repairs even more impressive. It is true that the crew would have been repairing everything they could while the ship was sailing to port. The Yorktown's crew must have been wondering what evils they had committed to deserve the undivided attention of both Japanese attacks at Midway.