Ethel Skakel Kennedy, Ep. 10: “Two Untidy, Entitled Kids Get Married”

[@pamglass6007]

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​@@cheeredenise What is the origin of your lovely name Cheere?

[@caroldurant5907]

Yes! I agree!^^^ I remember those mornings getting everyone ready for school! We have 3 children (now adults...) All 3 one after another; April '88, June '89 and May '90....so our mornings throughout those years were ALWAYS BUSY! A kind of "controlled chaos"! Lol! Lol!! Thanks Cheere!!❤

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[@fabshelleyg]

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[@katemaloney4296]

It isn't a "rich person" thing; it's an entitlement thing. I've had poor friends who knew I was struggling, demanding money or groceries or a ride somewhere because I had a job and a car. It didn't matter that I was living on a shoe-string budget or that they could've gotten a city-funded bus or transit pass. It was because I had something and they felt that I owed them.

[@rebeccamae9720]

AMEN, Sister! I was a massage therapist who worked at a spa way out in a little country town. A young woman who lived in a very impoverished neighborhood came in one day with a voucher for a free massage that she had won. She complained about our spa, as if she were a resident of Beverly Hills and as if she were used to the most shi-shi accommodations. She of course did not leave a tip after I worked on her. When the receptionist her asked how she liked her session, this young woman snorted and said something like, "Well it was better than I thought it would be, considering that it's in this dump!" That moment taught me a lot. This girl was poor--even if the address she listed on her spa intake form hadn't confirmed it, her clothing and her overall appearance confirmed that she had little money. And yet, she acted like she expected and deserved something much, much better than this spa treatment. I learned in that moment that entitled attitudes don't necessarily come from a life of wealth. Also, this girl didn't say "thank you" after her free session. She took the lotion samples I gave her as a parting gift and slammed the door. I wish her well, wherever she is today...

[@LouisaWatt]

Yes! People from all demographics can be entitled users.

[@gingermaynor495]

Removing a tray of caviar for yourself, flashing around expensive gifts, not training your dog and allowing it to wreak havoc in the house and with someone else's belongings is the lowest form of behavior. Uncontrolled. Entitled. Pathetic. It is no wonder it is reported Jackie did not fit in.

[@sharonsmith583]

Wow, i am loving this book! It really explains a lot about why RFK and Ethel's kids turned outcthe way they did.

[@emmahunk5692]

We love you and your readings & commentary SO MUCH!! Appreciate your time, energy & talent. The early starts to your days of entertaining us & then, no doubt being a full-on wife & mom! THANK-YOU for EVERYTHING!❤

[@deborah-irl]

"Do you have a couple a bucks?" "No. No I don't actually. But YOU do. Why don't we go to a bank and get some?" 😄Ha love it cheere Denise! Love it.

[@cheribee968]

They had money yet didn’t care enough about their home environment to keep it livable.

[@ryanlewandowsky2077]

@@cheribee968 that makes the most sense because they could afford staff.

[@clarefenton6246]

Ethel as a nun. I would have paid good money to have seen that!

[@MARYREED-nh7gb]

I worked as a night nurse for a religious order caring for elderly and very ill nuns. I knew a few who were x-marines! More than a few had been real tomboys back in the day and taught PE to young boys! In college, an elderly college nun (70s?) tossed a baseball for the start of the Red Socks baseball game. No kidding! She was a famous in Boston! (She could toss a 60-mph softball well into her 70s!) Lesson learned: NEVER underestimate a nun!

[@lorrinatreadway2938]

You have to admit, her wedding dress was exquisite. I somehow think the two, Bobby and Ethel, never fully grew up.

[@aimforlifenow]

I think so too. Arrested development seems to be a common theme in this family.

[@carolhamm7645]

They sure sound childish 👍

[@katiek.9180]

Sorry, last one, last one. Is anyone else imagining this whole tennis scene playing out in your head?? All I keep seeing is #1. The competitive tennis scene from the movie “Bridesmaids” OR: #2. The “Joanie Loves Chachi!” scene from the movie “Dodgeballl” You’ve got Bum Leg George over here w/ some random Scandinavian gazelle woman, BEATING both Bobby and Ethel at their own sport. 😂😂😂 I CANNOT…it’s just too much.

[@mapleleaf902]

What a wonderful start of the day!

[@clydare]

I so love this book. Always look forward to the next chapter. Will be heartbroken when it ends. Thank you so much 🙏

[@gingerdavis8071]

I look forward to your commentary. Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. I often laugh at the same things. You're providing a great service to people who could read the material themselves, but find your comments far more entertaining. For all those who may read the comments as well, please check out Rory Kennedy's documentary "Ethel" before Cheere posts her next video.

[@Shirley72800]

Can you give us the link please.

[@gingerdavis8071]

@Shirley72800 I came across it on KZbin. You should be able to Google " Ethel documentary " to find a full length video.

[@TheRutledgest]

​@@Shirley72800Google it.

[@JenniferNefdt-tm5cv]

It sounds like neither family had any class.

[@MizzTH-G]

Absolutely true. New money, old trash 😂

[@samanthab1923]

What’s the old saying? Money can’t buy class 😊

[@run4cmt]

Many women of this era were not raised to do anything useful if they were rich. It was shopping and lunch. When I was in college in the late 70s I was in a sorority. I had to interview the other members. When asked about their ambitions after school almost everyone said go out to lunch and go shopping.

[@kerprice]

I'm painting my living room and this is perfect while I'm painting!

[@infinityinfinity2253]

I’m painting as well, although having day off today but it’s great listening as you paint!

[@hilaryjohns4049]

​@@infinityinfinity2253I like watching Cheere's facial expressions.

[@katemaloney4296]

Am I the only one who is creeped out by how much RFK and Ethel look like blood siblings than husband and wife?

[@yolandacroes5491]

I remember reading a book where Jacky called his sisters in law, the toothy girls. But both her husband and later lover JFK and RFK were toothy as well. A family with prodigious teeth, Ethel fit right in.

[@mariadegan1029]

In Italy they have a saying “chi si assomiglia si piglia “ something like those who look alike take eachother 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@pamglass6007]

I thought so too! 😂

[@colleencarpenter1200]

Omg....yes...they do look alike! It's creepy...glad I'm not the only one!😂

[@julietrask7497]

They do look like siblings. They’re both little too, which may count for their competitive personalities.

[@kiminder4763]

I’m really enjoying this book. The Skakels were nuts.

[@shecandance9500]

I saw an interview where Ethel gloated that she wouldn’t let her grandchildren win at anything! She always won! Loving grandma!

[@AlysonMcNulty]

I saw you had another episode and I saved it for my reward after cleaning my Guinea Pig's cage. I get to go to my official Perkins (as in School for the Blind) blind/low vision once a month book club today. I had always wanted to be part of 1 now I am part of 2.

[@christinepaige2575]

Ethel’s wedding dress was so beautiful! - and timeless; I think it would be just as beautiful today. Somebody had exquisite taste, imo.

[@sallymiller6139]

Actually the dress looked very similar to the wedding dress worn by my sister at her wedding in 1961 Dress complete with sewn on pearls Only difference Our mother made this dress on her sewing machine She also.made all the bridesmaids dresses and hats All.sewed down in our basement But the result was phenomenal And she made it out of love

[@MaryBarry-ks6hn]

@@sallymiller6139. Out of love,the best but cherished and special lives on forever in a different way ❤️

[@familycompactthegrange7014]

Thank you: I am a newbie to your book readings, but I look forward to them now!

[@infinityinfinity2253]

Just sat down with a cup of Tulsi tea, opened my phone and another chapter! Yay!! 😊

[@fionabegonia7802]

I look forward to listening to your reviews. You are very good!

[@JoAnnMiller-f1v]

Really enjoying this book! Thanks for finding these interesting reads!!

[@CowboyRc743]

I look forward to your commentary so much. I see "Operation Paperclip" in your library. Great choice!

[@mariadegan1029]

Looks like I’m a simple person too🤷🏻‍♀️ just simply prefer a tidy clean home and a good meal!! You’re right, how much Tennis can you play🤔🤷🏻‍♀️

[@MizzTH-G]

Just love these reading sessions and amusing expressions and comments. Takes me back to early childhood having my parents read me bedtime stories every night.❤

[@BellaRainDrops]

Yay new chapters ! thanks Cheere

[@DawnSuttonfabfour]

I have come to a sad conclusion. I don't like Ethel or Bobby. At all. I am however still totally gripped by this book. What an eye opener! She behaves like a spoiled kid who was dragged up. IMHO a trend rich folk follow is a stint in a finishing school - something the Skagel girls could have done with.

[@TheTinkyewinkye]

Cheere Denise, you are the best!

[@janevosper712]

Ty for your wonderful way of entertaining us all 👍

[@roseannburke6512]

Great chapter... this book is so entertaining.

[@lynn6221]

How could Ethel even have any "life-long" friends?

[@_AeliAna]

😂. Maybe it was because of her money or power, maybe it was a friend's exaggeration because she wanted to look good or important in this book. But I agree if this was true, what a challenging and enduring task !!

[@wendywilliams3098]

You have done this book a great justice. I am so enjoying it!!!

[@DebbiSmithDC]

I’m catching up-binging the last three “episodes” today after being so invested in the most important election of our lives! 🎉❤

[@sabsmcdabs7139]

Oh my goodness these people were rich and feral. How on earth were they so powerful? 19th century wealth has a lot to answer for!

[@katiek.9180]

Thanks for sharing! I’m enjoying following along

[@miaque6460]

Some people pick up accents quickly, without trying. I’m one of them. I don’t try to pick up accents but if I spend enough time in a foreign, English-speaking country, it grows on me. I have no idea why. One of my daughters is the same way. It wears off after a couple weeks at home.

[@cheeredenise]

I can completely understand the desire to mimic what you’re hearing…I feel the pull too whenever I’m around people with strong accents but doesn’t it feel a little silly knowing it’s not the way you actually speak?

[@bridgetmclaughlin6198]

Agree. I know ppl who’ve lived in another country for years and their accent hasn’t changed at all. Others whose accent changed after a short time. Not sure why.

[@cliftafrizzell4687]

After spending a year in London I unconsciously took on a slight British accent. I never heard it but everyone was asking why I was talking like that

[@AlEdJedLee]

@@cheeredeniseit’s not mimicry in my case. I just speak the way I’m spoken to. A musician friend said it shows my musicality. Though I don’t have a beautiful voice, I usually hit all the notes. So no, I don’t feel “silly” to take on the speech patterns around me. It’s unnatural for me NOT to do so.

[@MizzTH-G]

@@cheeredenise travelling to australia was a nightmare for me. The most infectious accent. I started ending each sentence like a question 😂 I have lived in London for 28 years but still have my S African accent a bit watered down now. But after any trip back ‘home’ i return with a much stronger SA accent. Currently in Spain on hols but i’m a bit limited to Ola, Gracias etc 😂

[@katiek.9180]

Short idea @cheeredenise: 9:20-10:00mins “so which is it, Pan??! I don’t like Pan. Anyways..” 😂 #CheeseDreams 😂😂

[@ryanlewandowsky2077]

As a neat freak I too have a hard time imagining playing tennis all day long just to come home to filth and no food! The slobs are lucky because literally everything is easier but I have to live with myself and I hate messes!

[@cheeredenise]

It sounds so unsettling! I’m not a neat freak but I do want some general order and edible food in the fridge 🤣

[@infinityinfinity2253]

I totally agree!! I like my home to be clean and tidy, I take my shoes off if I’m going to anyone’s house. Bobby would have been booted out the door if he behaved like that in my home.

[@MARYREED-nh7gb]

I know, right? I would have had to be medicated to survive in such environments!

[@donnaparker3417]

@@MARYREED-nh7gb 😂😂 I’m the same, I can’t live in filth. I would have a major breakdown 😂

[@carolinemcgovern8059]

​@@infinityinfinity2253But it's the shock when people behave like that.

[@sueannnatter5295]

Thank you. Cheere. I started off my day with a huge belly laugh hearing about Bobby and his holey pants. I needed that!

[@colleencarpenter1200]

This is just fabulous! Thank you , dear Cheere❤❤❤❤😊

[@evacherie214]

Yayyy! I work overnights so I look forward to another installment every morning when I get home 😂

[@nicgolightly]

I am so excited for this chapter- what a life!!!! What an extraordinary story…

[@thetruthmatters341]

Delighted to see this video come up, enjoying this series and Thank You x

[@ryanlewandowsky2077]

Oh no not busting mother in law for rewriting Paul R’s midnight ride!

[@atticusk8548]

Thanks for another great episode!

[@Juanita-gf4te]

Did Ethel not know the way to a mans heart is through his stomach? As a young 17 year old pregnant bride who was very poor I at least knew how to cook meals for my hubby, and keep our tiny flat clean. We managed on our strict budget and hubby worked over time when it was available. The only things we had were wedding gifts from friends and family, and a donated old bed that sagged in the middle.

[@janicew8338]

Enjoying this book so much! ❤️

[@San-zu8qx]

Love watching this Cheere.. You make it hilarious and interesting..😂

[@dianasmith8617]

Good morning Cheere, thanks for the new chapter.☺️

[@marylamont982]

Thank you for always doing such a good job. It's always enjoyable ❤

[@gonefishing167]

Wow, how much one learns about people. So admired them all once ( Kennedy’s I mean). Thank you 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺

[@fabshelleyg]

Excellent chapter!!

[@bridgetmclaughlin6198]

Really enjoying this book. I’ve always wondered how Ethel got on with Jackie as they seemed so different but now I see they both loved horse riding so had something in common

[@maggiemay5618]

Thank you. Just subbed. Love the channel

[@cheeredenise]

I am so grateful for new subscribers! I hope you enjoy the channel.

[@raelenelabby6407]

Thank you, Cheere ❤️

[@kaybrown4010]

Oh, the entitlement. Pearl-clutching cringe!

[@carolhamm7645]

The tennis scene was hilarious. 😂

[@lindamaloney1651]

Love your reviews and your humor while reading the books for us! I look forward to every one! Thanks Cheere! You are AMAZING!

[@CathyListens]

This is a fascinating book! Thank you! ❤❤❤

[@SharonSeaver]

Good morning, Cheere 😊❤

[@NadiaAmra-w4m]

Ethel was good at making babies

[@cheeredenise]

Stay tuned for the start of that saga in the next episode!

[@judyholiday1794]

She was pregnant for 10 years is what her daughter said in an interview..The weird thing is that Ethel didn't like being pregnant because she had a really rough delivery with her first born..I knew a couple that had 9 kids and the joke was that all he had to do was take his off boots and sit them by the bed 🙄..I had a rough time in my 8th month with an emergency C-section at 9 months .So let's just say we decided not to have another because I had just turned 35 when our son was born and I didn't feel like I could have another at my age..I have no regrets but I do admire women that can push out a baby while reading a magazine..😜

[@MizzTH-G]

Good Irish Catholics!

[@merrywalsh2809]

I think it would have been a nightmare if I had woken up suddenly a member in either of these families. Sooo interesting. ❤

[@dianacooper-havlik4115]

Great reading!💫

[@atticusk8548]

@cheeredenise, just another book recommendation for your 'Royal Series'. King Charles III: The Making of a King by Robert Hardman. The Daily Mail has been doing series now. I'm no Charles fan but perhaps this book might shed some light on his history that might be interesting.

[@maxinefreeman8858]

I believe I would've had the wedding at a hotel, anywhere but a house that was dirty and rowdy.

[@BellaRainDrops]

What kind of a name is PAN lol !

[@AlEdJedLee]

Just read an older review of this book, centered on Ethel’s treatment of her kids, especially Robert, Jr. CONTEMPTIBLE WOMAN! She also slapped an African-American servant and called her the N word, was viciously rude to another employee who was either Asian or Indigenous. And then her expectation of free services from caterers, etc., because “it should be a honor just to serve the Kennedys.” I’m noping out. People who act like that have NO welcome space in my head. It’s a service of the biographers and Cheere Denise to remind us of these true stories of how NOT to live. Thank you, C.D.

[@pinkyjay1881]

Loved that thanks!

[@maryriley8077]

Thank you for reading this book with us. I honestly don't think I could have gotten through it on my own. My takeaway so far of Ethel is she was unlikable, entitled and useless. I have to roll my eyes when hearing present tributes of her singing her "humanitarian" praises. She couldn't even take proper care of her own house nor her surroundings, and eventually not even her children. Regardless of one's upbringing, at some point one becomes an adult and realizes what is right and wrong. Apparently, as Ethel became an adult, she missed that memo.

[@carolinemcgovern8059]

This is Ethel at the start of her life, there's a long way to go. Ethel RIP, RIG went on to do good in her long life.

[@maryriley8077]

@@carolinemcgovern8059 Jackie Kennedy once said that if you bungle raising your children nothing else much matters. It seems that Ethel did some bungling in raising her children. Just sayin'

[@SomeOne-mp6ym]

Ethel wanted to be a NUN???😂😂😂😂

[@gracemcgeachie3366]

I always loved Bobby. He did a lot of growing up and learning about the lives of others as he got older. Started to see the entitlement of his earlier life and wanted to change things. Ethel was just along for the ride!

[@ozmaoz325]

Thank you ❤ x

[@sherrimcgrath5910]

Been waiting for this!

[@judyholiday1794]

Here's a little tidbit The Brady Bunch stayed at The Royal Hawaiian during their 1970s TV series..I love Charlottesville because I would spend summers there with my Grandma ..I have heard about how awful Ethel's cooking was ..🤮

[@Zzxhing]

Ethel's wedding dress is gorgeous!

[@angelaarredondo4115]

I'm with you! I hate to come to a messy house and I wouldn't like myself very much, if I couldn't cook Something Good to eat! ❤️

[@sallymiller6139]

I knew some wealthy kids in high school who never had any money on them alto lots of credit cards for expensive department stores And were always borrowing money and never paid it back Or almost never

[@judyholiday1794]

Bobby had way too many groomsmen..Talk about intense

[@aimforlifenow]

LMAOOO 😂

[@Ann-Margrock]

Cheere, when are you coming back?? 😂 This is soooo good ❤❤❤

[@Margot5twofor53Oh]

Omg where are your play lists???

[@sarahhunter1114]

In Pat’s defense on picking up an Irish brogue: I’m an auditory learner and I can’t help but take on a accent when I’m with people who aren’t from my home state. I literally think in their accent. It was really bad in college when the women I hung out with one semester were from Persia and Brazil. I had to retranslate everything in my head to my accent before I spoke. I was even dreaming in an accent. If I’ve been binge watching a UK show, and I’ve had a couple glasses of wine, forget it, I’m speaking in their accent and I couldn’t change it if I wanted to. It’s embarrassing. Especially when it becomes racial ie. I’m a white woman with black friends🤦🏼‍♀️

[@jean9l187]

I can understand that!

[@athenaf8278]

I’ve lived in Europe, in New York and now in the South. Originally from Canada, people have difficulty in placing my accent but the giveaway is my pronunciation of the words out and about… then I’m pegged as a Canadian! Some things never leave you!

[@sarahhunter1114]

@@athenaf8278 we have a friend like that from Cuba. She’s lived all over so her accent isn’t just Cuban.

[@grandmajudy4895]

Question: The area that Ethel's parents flew off to in California and were developing, is that the same Rancho Palos Verdes that is sliding into the sea? That area was known to be prone to landslides and was built upon anyway.

[@julietrask7497]

Yes !

[@Jassyangelina]

Ethel looked gorgeous

[@MizzTH-G]

Not keen on her stiff hair or buck teeth, lovely dress though!

[@robertmontgomery1310]

@@MizzTH-Gditto…I would never describe Ethel as gorgeous

[@SusanCahill-fb6ey]

I appreciate you, honey, and l will share with my loved ones.

[@judyholiday1794]

I thought Ethel was pretty on her wedding..She could rock a tan thats for sure..

[@Kitty-v2i]

One reason she looked like a prune in old age.

[@brendatucker35]

Wow, what a family!

[@_AeliAna]

I found it interesting that both Ethel and Pat (her elder sister) were so different in personality but both seem to get an "identity" based on their husbands (and their families or country). They don't seem to just get married but to "convert" to another family ( their opinions, habits, dinamics, way of life...).

[@rosiekeays9143]

Rose Kennedy never carried money either. As a young girl, she would just get on public transportation and say, I'm Rose Fitzgerald.

[@NiniM8154]

Hi, Cheere! I wondered if my opinion of Ethel would improve as the book progressed. So far, she seems more obnoxious and self-involved than before. Ugh.

[@MizzTH-G]

A ghastly person. I struggle to find a single redeeming feature…

[@DianeHayes-t4n]

She lived to be in her nineties! Maybe she did a few things right! 🤣🤣 she was a character!

[@MizzTH-G]

The rotters always seem to live the longest- except the Kennedy lot who were shot or killed in various crashes.

[@LocustIvy]

I was told hotels in Colorado were left with damaged properties and unpaid bills when Ethel and her children vacationed there.

[@katrinbarbey]

I think all the pranks she did throughout her life was her way of showing control over others.

[@baz7055]

Just wait till the beautiful, well bred Jackie comes in with JFK. Competition takes new heights. My first memories of what they called movie magazines covered with Kennedy woman and their clothes and hairdos. My mom never bothered but a couple of aunts had them and loved to visit and look at everything in bed. Hollywood stars were on them too but in the 60s the Kennedy woman dominated with photos and articles. I remember photos of them driving around cape cod in their convertibles with head scarfs on their hairdos.

[@vickiebrezee2799]

Hi Cheere, This might sound like a strange request, but I've been listening to your commentary for over a year, and I think you are smart and probably a good 🎉. I know you review books before you let your children read them, which is great! I have a 12 year old granddaughter, and I want her to love reading like I did at her age. Can you suggest some books that might interest her and give her that spark she needs to put the phone down. 😂❤ Thanks!

[@davidhinkson8856]

Since Ethel's family wasn't house trained, and the Kennedys were pretty slovenly too, I guess you couldn't expect miracles from their pets either!

[@carolinemcgovern8059]

Here's my thinking regarding Fat Ann, as the Bible says 'the love of money' for some they fall in love with money, it's an addiction.