Ethical Grifting

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Correction: Beastars was written by a woman, Paru Itagaki, and she's hilarious!

[@nassiemartinez4399]

She's also the daughter of the author of Baki, another dangerously, detrimentally horny person. In Baki the main character legit gets a Shonen power boost from losing his virginity while his dad watches.

[@yoXneo]

"I am hotter, smarter, and more bisexual than Karl Marx" just wrote that down on my mirror 😂

[@obcorc]

I see you (or really you see you), the daily affirmation thing doesn't *usually* work for me, but clearly I just hadn't found the right one😂

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Hell yeah!

[@leonjiang2318]

judging from the letters he wrote to Engels I might have to differ on the last part

[@selmaunsley6683]

@@obcorcaffirmations usually prickle my PDA but as you say maybe it’s because they were the wrong ones

[@Chrys4l1s]

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, there *is* ethical grifting under capitalism

[@something-from-elsewhere]

"I was a Mid-Level Salesman for a Satanic Cabal" reads like a light novel title and lowkey I would read that

[@nahometesfay1112]

A single family grift is simply unattainable for the common bi. I think the government needs to provide more opportunity to grifters through public grift programs such as lobbying groups, think tanks, or additional seats in congress.

[@Cathmore0]

Or the government could covertly assign bisexuals to rich families, having us seducing our way into a family and redistributing their wealth to those who need it.... We could be like secret agents but even more sexy!

[@Tempestchime]

"hotness is a service, one that I am providing to all of you right now. For free. You're welcome." I paused here to give a thumbsup XD

[@MykaSilence]

My new motto, 'Be like Rasputin!'. Ra Ra Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen....

[@stephe1506]

I was gonna just write "Russia's greatest grift machine" but on reflection he might have some solid competition

[@NattiNekoMaid]

As someone who cams, I worry a lot of the time that some of the people who pay for me can’t afford it. I’m trying to grift rich people, (the site takes 65%, so I have to charge a lot), and they added a feature I hope helps that dynamically adjust the rates based on what people will spend. But again I’m worried it just targets people with issues.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Yeah, that's a difficult position because some people legit have issues and spend all their money on that stuff but also you have to pay rent. It sucks.

[@marcomoreno6748]

Don't worry about me, I give my strongest challenges to my strongest credit cards.

[@Megaritz]

Is camming a form of grifting? I tend to think grifting needs to involve some kind of deception. Camming doesn't have to involve deception, as opposed to just selling a service. Be warned that I'm speaking from the armchair here, I don't know anything about camming beyond vague guesses. So my impression could be wrong at many points. I'd guess camming can involve creating an illusion of intimacy (like pretending to find one's clients attractive or charming, etc.)-- but the clients *ought* to know the illusion is part of the service and not real. I'd guess some clients don't realize this. There could be a question of what clients should be expected to recognize, and at what point the clients' failure to recognize it means there is grifting involved. But some failures are surely client-side and do not imply that the service-provider is grifting. By analogy, there are other cases where some clients come to believe in an illusion of emotional intimacy and may become delusional, but this doesn't mean the provider of the service was grifting. Some viewers of streamers (which overlaps with camming) get extremely parasocial and start to delusionally believe the streamer is in love with them or something. Or someone at a restaurant might think a waitress being nice to them at the restaurant (emotional labor which the waitress may be required by their job to do) means the waitress wants to date them. But this doesn't mean streamers or waitresses are necessarily engaged in grifting. The client/viewer/patron should have known better. So, I'm not sure that camming necessarily involves grifting either. There may be a difference of degree though, if camming involves more risk or higher prevalence or more severity. Again, very speculative on my part-- I'm just trying to nail down the concept of "grifting" and what sorts of things it would or wouldn't apply to.

[@judgebearist]

As a hot bisexual over 30 who was a clueless right-wing teen, I once fell for the grift of this one rich 12-year-old boy-child whose name I can't even look up anymore. He got paid to tell crowds of old men that Obama liberalism was "romanticism," along with other words that are fine in English Lit 101 but are complete non sequiturs in politics. That money (and probably also his parents) funded his education at NYU, where he proceeded to become an utter normie liberal. No one heard from him ever again, but he's probably carried his grifting skills into marketing, corporate law, or a radical centrist Xitter account with Ukraine and Zionist flags. Isn't it quaint that conservatives once thought that children repeating hundred-dollar words would be the thing that wins elections, instead of old men and incels repeating five-cent words?

[@AndImsomelady]

Amen

[@artosbear]

Rebecca Watson who is a science somewhat former atheistube adjacent youtuber, a Liberal more than a leftist but sort of riding the line, did a video recently talking about Trump's n@zi lies in that first debate w/Harris, and she made a point I'd never really connected for some reason, which is that duh, the trans panic stuff, which I have long recognized as the same as gay panic stuff, and D&D panic, and anti immigrant panic, and anti Black panic stuff, in terms of the concern trolling which is that "the ____ are coming for your children!" As a way to stir up violence...same against Indigenous people the same propaganda was used Is literally all blood libel against different groups I dunno why I never put that together before. Like definitionally "the ____ are coming to (do violence to) your children" is that phrase

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

I stopped watching Watson’s content awhile ago. She leans way too heavily into ableist language (constantly referring to grifters and bigots as “idiots,” “morons,” etc.). Having learned of the eugenic history behind those terms, I try to avoid using them as generic insults, but Watson just lets them fly. Honestly, she strikes me as one of the too-smart-for-the-room crowd of atheists and pseudoscience debunkers who conflate intelligence with morality and label anyone they’re criticizing as not intelligent enough to know better.

[@sykes1024]

@@GhostIntoTheFog idiot, moron, stupid, are all just synonyms for the opposite of smart in modern colloquial english. Literally no one is hearing these words and being motivated to do eugenics. 99.999% of people aren't even aware of the history of them.

[@Kymerahx]

I love the idea of horniness as a perspective because I don't think I have ever given horniness any credibility before watching this. You taught me a lesson that wasn't even the topic of the day

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Hell yeah! Thank you! I see a lot of good art as a reflection of fear or desire. Erotic art specifically is derided with statements like "they only made this because they were horny" but no, they were horny, yes, but they wanted to share their perspective and their desires with others, and that perspective happened to be being really horny about something weird. They made the art to share their perspective with the world. There's nothing wrong with that. Now, some of the content might be an issue, but horniness itself isn't an issue. It's just part of their worldview.

[@alexjames7144]

Well I was going to go to bed but I guess that plan is now RUINED! Thanks Trash, ruining my sleep cycle again.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

lmao, if it makes you feel better I've also ruined my sleep schedule!

[@EugeneHoverhand]

Funny how I aligned with Penn and Teller: Bullshit in high school but now I'm precisely the opposite Extract resources from crunchy upper middle class people - do tarot readings, you can just make shit up and charge $400 an hour, it's based

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

Coincidentally, Penn and Teller played grifters running a three-card-monte game in the Run-D.M.C. music video for “It’s Tricky.”

[@valdin98]

Does anyone else say "Hi Trash" like we're in an AA meeting when the videos start?

[@Spontamar]

Confession time: I have “Robin Hood”ed from every job I've had except FedEx Ground (that was just limbo) and it's all so depressingly true, they've got the insurance and profit margins to afford loss yet greed is always our downfall. Good timing, bad timing, it's all about timing. Now I grift through sniffies.

[@lily_borb]

I've been watching your videos and when you jokingly said 3,000 subscribers I was like, "hahaha wait what the hell?" I'm genuinely shocked you don't have more your videos are really good and insightful

[@Cathmore0]

Why do I have to be an ethical and non-hot bisexual? I could have made such a great grifter. 😢

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

You're probably hotter than you think

[@bloodyhell8201]

​@@Trash-Garbage-Trash i'm not

[@sarvodayashramadana]

@@bloodyhell8201 Are you fishing for sympathy?

[@bloodyhell8201]

@@sarvodayashramadana life of brian

[@kat-zi9kx]

Ur right I should say unhinged shit on main

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Yes, you should.

[@Jones-pj2jk]

'Suddenly converting to Christianity' has been a successful grift ever since Saul became Paul

[@lyrablack8621]

UNDERRATED COMMENT. Also I was literally thinking of grifting as a christian just with different beliefs like "hey if you're being rewarded in material ways by doing your job, god doesn't want you doing that bc you're giving into worldly desires. You shouldn't be making anything more than what you need as a christian worker"

[@Sugar3Glider]

"Being hot is a job" I remember Gabriel Iglesias talking about how he was approached with like a million dollar sign on bonus to be hot in some dudes house ... Just hang out with him all day. Crazy stuff

[@efkastner]

42:04 “you would have _loved_ testosterone” is such a funny line!

[@ClosetDemon]

"they're scared, horny, and mad about the same thing" realest shit

[@d33dr0]

I had that surgery too. I'll quote Heath Ledger here. "Whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you... stranger."

[@williamcooper8024]

Just checked and has anyone else noticed the AI image generators dont know what a possum looks like? Just thought you should know, NOT suicidal in case I end up not playing possum correctly(dead) o77

[@DracoGalboy]

huh. oh. Oh. OH. Holy trash that's a really good way to reframe it.

[@ClosetDemon]

due 15 for top surgery? i wasnt allowed on T until 16.... i definitely wouldve regretted it if i had surgery that young, especially cause when i was that age i was really fucked up by transmedicalism & thought surgery was some sort of right of passage, idk if ill even have surgery anymore

[@ClosetDemon]

yknow, more and more taking "fuck the rich" literally sounds like a great business plan

[@Allisonwonderland-qn3xr]

Big fan of ethical grifting

[@veqv]

Cold reading? in this economy?

[@matteodelgallo1983]

Ok new discourse, is it more unethical to work at Lokheed-Martin, or work in finance? Cos, like, weapon manufacturing is *just* involved in the suffering of war, essentially every hedge fund/finance institution is deeply involved with the suffering of war, *but also* the general, global suffering of capitalist extraction

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Great question! I don't know, they both seem pretty bad!

[@AndImsomelady]

I think it might be a chicken or egg question. Or a snake eating it’s tail. Can there be one without the other?

[@halfpintrr]

I’m trying to write really shitty corn for an episode game app, and I feel this.

[@mvrius26]

I just found a new bingeworthy youtuber!

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Sorry for the audio quality on all my old videos lol

[@mvrius26]

@@Trash-Garbage-Trash haven't even noticed that so far. Your texts are too good

[@AndImsomelady]

My former mother in law, gave 10% of her poverty wages every month to the Benny Hinn, TBN, and whatever grifter she considered to NOT be a baby Christian. She died alone, poor and Benny Hinn didn’t even send a card.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Yeah, they suck. Absolute garbage.

[@selenaphobia]

im a phone salesman, my entire job is a grift, im also a communist, lumpen proletariat my ass im just forced to survive

[@selenaphobia]

i think my job is morally bad but like, gotta eat, im good at it, its even kinda enjoyable, though it plays into my worst impulses as a narcissist

[@kevincrady2831]

If you're able to make a living as a phone salesman, you've probably got what it takes to sell cryptocurrency, NFT's, and Criminal of Mar-a-Lago merch to the MAGA's. And chances are, you'd make a lot more money. They're infinitely gullible, and they can afford $100K enormous ugly coal-rollin' pickup trucks and giant Criminal flags to mount from the bed. Then, once you've taken care of your own needs/wants, you can covertly fund the Revolution.

[@GilTheDragon]

Consider, for example, Stephen King, and the anxiolitic properties of stimulants. One must wonder if Howwie Love was imbibing patent medicines, stimulating the mind and his fear of math

[@billiepotts1541]

hold up, is this a confessional? is trash grifting us 😂

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

I'm not currently grifting anyone. I'm not nearly charismatic enough. I would have to do a really bad one like Chloe Cole, or god forbid Ben Shapiro. As I said, leftists are broke. So I guess my answer is, not currently.

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

Also, HP lovecraft was scared of air conditioners

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

That's so funny

[@btdtpro]

The battle used to be kings vs merchants. The king had ultimate power, but the merchants were good and keeping the economy active. The merchants resented the King taking a cut, and the king often felt the merchants weren't being honest with how much they made when they gave the king his cut. The interesting thing about the modern world in places like America, is that there is no king, there are just civil servants representing the people. The tax dollars don't just go to the king, but instead they're meant to serve the wellbeing over everyone though public services and such. So now it tend to be the merchants vs the government that if of the people for the people, or in short, it's the merchant resenting the people. While the merchants use public services like roads, GPS, electrical lines, etc, they resent having to pay a cut of their profits to the services. The companies even need people, often educated people to make their company function, but they don't think they should have to give a cut of their profits to taxes that would then be given to families raising children or to the education system so people will be educated to the level the companies need. Since the government is for the people, and merchants are people, the government should serve them, but not more than other people.

[@miamora3221]

"Stealing from rich people is fine and ethical", Awyep.

[@AndImsomelady]

Of course he won’t die The devil takes his time when he claims his own.

[@mrpieceofwork]

How is it someone contacted me about moving to this really bougie area to help them set up an epic gift OF THE RICH... and you post this vid right after? It's a sign!

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Take them for everything they're worth.

[@TheMayonakaMidnighter]

Sadly, I think I'll stay poor, I can't do any of this without staining my own soul, and I've already worked for the War Crime machine once in my life.

[@prodigal_southerner]

But you can get rich working at the warcrime factory, we couldn't possibly have immoral jobs that lead to wealth. Everyone knows god, specifically the god that said rich people won't make it to heaven, shows his love through wealth.

[@lemonlordminecraft]

Opossum merch spotted, I shall be attentive and focussed

[@mxpants4884]

I have to vehemently disagree. Ben Shapiro is not at all a competent writer. Please see exhibit 1: the novel where the self-insert character is mostly defined by being tall and therefore manly. Behind the Bastards did some episodes on it.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Oh yeah his book SUCKS, but he's definitely improved enough to actually get a point across. He simply doesn't have anything to say, which makes for bad art.

[@twisthermind2514]

Is there any ethical grifting courses or degrees i can get? Unfortunetly i am not bisexual.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Lmao sign up for my course for only $999 Damn that would be a good grift maybe

[@_iarna_]

I love the approach in this video (and I'm definitely subscribing) but it really really needs a lot more editing (or an outline or script), as there's so much repetition and off topic side tangents that it's hard to watch as foreground media. (Versus something that's on in the background while you do something else.) The tangents are fun -- I wouldn't necessarily cut, like, the bit about Rasputin, but could be fit into the narrative better, rather than interrupting an idea that's being setup.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

I appreciate the feedback, but unfortunately I'm just kind of like this.

[@Cathowl]

Yeah I was like, this is a great video with some interesting points but I didn't need to hear it multiple times all patchworked together?

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

Being an AuDHDer, I see tangents as features, not bugs. We may take a detour or two (or five), but we’ll wind up at the same endpoint eventually. Check out Blair and Carley from the Girl Historians podcast for an example of tangential style at its peak.

[@tristanunderwood6315]

I love this so much❣️

[@AbolishReality]

i love grifting! grifting is so cool!

[@AkiVainio]

Not to dismiss your bisexuality or anything, but from what I understand, the bisexuality competition between you and Marx might be closer then you think.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Huh, interesting!

[@kevincrady2831]

Yeah, but aside from the magnificent beard, Trash has him beat in hotness/cuteness.

[@artosbear]

I am in no way dimishing Trash's abilities here but history has suppressed Marx's hotness we don't really know. We only see the beard daddy illustrations of him. We don't get to see him in his 20s and 30s living the unemployed ND idealogue life, sponsored by his sugar daddy to write all day, spied upon by various governments, lounging around his apartment just being a bum. I bet he was very hot but we don't get to see it. I bet he had that autistic rizz

[@s2157-t5u]

Oh this was a good one.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Thank you!

[@WoohooliganComedy]

🔥

[@Sugar3Glider]

Oh shiii, I just realized you have a possum patch! Nice!

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Thanks! I have a possum bolo and a pin with a possum that says "If you ain't rich, you're poor" I got from a local tenant's union. Love the noble possum.

[@Sugar3Glider]

@@Trash-Garbage-Trash heck yeah, that's a good one

[@NattiNekoMaid]

Video on the penis size plothole in saltburn when?

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

lmao

[@Sugar3Glider]

Blood libel stuff, like in Springfield OH?

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Yeah, I recorded this before the debate, but yes! It's the same shit over and over.

[@Sugar3Glider]

@@Trash-Garbage-Trash here's hoping they're having a "dog who caught the car problem" and the Republicans have their "come to Jesus meeting" or whatever and get back to the community building aspects their religion preaches.

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

11:16 Beastars was made by a woman actually! And Boring Kieth here on KZbin has 2 videos about it that are really good!

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

That makes so much sense! That explains why Haru is actually so relatable (as a small animal myself)

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

@@Trash-Garbage-Trash oh yeah there’s def a lot of interesting commentary there and I do find the female characters so interesting and realistic

[@ianthompson1907]

quack nutrition is the grift that upsets me the most.

[@AndImsomelady]

That is shifty one. It’s hard to pick my least favorite, chiropractors and homeopathic have been climbing my list recently.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

@@AndImsomelady ghost bone magic would be an absolutely hilarious grift if they weren't actively harming people

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

@ianthompson1907 Yeah, there’s no end to people who claim they can cure anything or everything with whatever nonsense diet they’re promoting. Plenty of parents of neurodivergent kids get into that crap, because they’ve bought into the neurodivergence-as-tragedy narrative and will cling to whatever hope they have to transform their disabled kids into the non-disabled ones they dreamed they would have.

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

@AndImsomelady-fq6cw Most people don’t even realize the pseudoscientific origins of the chiropractic industry. I actually just read there are some people hawking it as a treatment for ADHDers. A pseudoscience can never grow into a real science, unfortunately. Once the house is built, the rotten foundation will always be an issue.

[@AndImsomelady]

@@Trash-Garbage-Trash I know a woman who has been in a wheelchair now for 20+ years after her last chiropractor visit. They are the worst.

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

Ah, Chloe Cole. One of several infamous neurodivergents I wish we could drum out of the club.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Right? Boot her right out.

[@brookelynshaw9738]

I'm a hot bisexual that took a career in academia. Does this mean that I made a mistake???

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

@@brookelynshaw9738 unfortunately yes

[@Suzaka]

What if you’re doing multiple of the hot bisexual careers 🤔

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

That's peak bisexual, babee

[@kristopherrobin4001]

Nice

[@leonhard.doerflinger]

11:28 H.R. Giger

[@JustinWolfe-s9j]

Hey now, left wing grifters exist, I know one thats basically a landlord 😂

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

@@JustinWolfe-s9j it's honestly more impressive when left wing grifts succeed because of the aforementioned broke

[@JustinWolfe-s9j]

@@Trash-Garbage-Trash success is a strong word. He barely scrapes by in the house mommy built but he hasn't had a job in like 20+ years 😂 He's got ALL the clout tho 😂😂😂

[@selmaunsley6683]

Beastars turned the world furry therefore genius

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

@@selmaunsley6683 it's amazing

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

12:15 a lot of people also want praise from a **dofferent** kind of daddy 😂

[@panickedlizard9829]

NICE

[@dylanhuntly3517]

A-fuckin-nother one? You're putting my 300 words a day to shame! Do you have a particularly stringent process for writing/researching?

[@alexjames7144]

Trash's videos are mainly opinion pieces/essays focusing primarily on a single source or idea. Not everything needs to be huge in scope or the deepest look into every aspect of an issue, and Trash isn't claiming to have done huge in depth studies of these topics.

[@dylanhuntly3517]

@@alexjames7144That makes sense, I really want to be able to make videos with as much personality as these more opinion based videos that also delve deeply into multiple sources without getting too dry.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

So what I do is I make really in-depth videos where I do a lot of research (Public Sex, this one I'm working on now) and in between working on those, I make videos like these where I just rant about things I've been thinking about, with more limited data and research only to fact-check myself (often I don't fact check these ones nearly enough). Which ones get the most research depends on what my autism tells me to do.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Honestly the well-researched ones usually get a lot more views and comments, while the "easy" ones (this, the one I did about A03 political fics, how to make sports fair) get way less.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

I've also told myself I have to post a video every Monday, which is nonsense but the self-induced deadline is working for now. I'll definitely need to cut back through the Fall/Winter though, as I'll be super busy.

[@dj_enby]

excuse me you have 4.21 thousand subscribers not 3 thousand!!

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Oh yeah I've hit it big now!

[@aprilmcelia1969]

Trashiqué.

[@ProfDriftwood]

I have sampled Ben Shapiro's writing, and I can assure you he does not have a baseline technical competence as a writer either.

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Lol I have been told I'm too nice about people's writing

[@Sharrakor6]

4k+ subscribers🎉 maybe ben will listen now😂

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Hell yeah we're in the big leagues now!

[@kylegovender6211]

Heavy ordinance cool So lockeed martin cool

[@Deluluyo]

11:12 That *gal actually :) (Who made beastars ! So h0rny lmao)

[@Trash-Garbage-Trash]

Thanks lol, I literally had no idea who wrote it just that it's horny

[@zevscozyplace]

as a Jewish person, Shapiro probably has a perspective full of existential dread which would be very interesting to read about. works cited: am Jewish with lots of dread.

[@Dr.Odd417]

as a fellow Jew with lots of dread that is so real

[@GhostIntoTheFog]

I get the feeling Shapiro doesn’t dread much. He seems to have convinced himself that when his fellow fascists fully consolidate power here in the United States, he’ll be seen as one of the good ones and exempted from their version of the Final Solution. He’ll be in for a rude awakening.