ETHNICAL MACEDONIANS ON A MAP FROM INTERNATIONAL HISTORY BOOK, 1922

[@Ghost1theturkkilla]

No,that only implies that they are macedonians that mixed with slavics,when they(slavics) showed up,meaning,the Ancient civilization (Macedonians) mixed in with some of the new settlers(slavics), while Bulgarians are Turks,who learned a slavic dialect,based off of the Macedonian Language, no matter how you try to twist the words,implying something that ANYONE who clearly understands English KNOWS isn't WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT SEEM!-SO, NO IT DOSE'NT PROVE ANY TYPE OF 'GREEK' POSITION!

[@MKDlover]

I am sure Stefoska did not talk about FYROMs, right?

[@ISTORICAR]

Odlicno video Bobo , bravo a i muzikata e super !

[@MKDlover]

How do you expect to find Macedonia as separate country in 1922? Our part was serbia at that time.

[@igorbog88]

50% occupied by Greece 35% liberated ! and free

[@igorbog88]

Greece invaded, occupied and anexed a part of Macedonia forcefully in 1913. Never before that day, has a "Greek" foot stepped onto sacred Macedonian soil.

[@cackodante]

absolutely fantastic

[@MKDlover]

FYROM is greek invention, nobody else has heard of that country :) While most of the world knows about Republic of Macedonia.

[@MKDlover]

The number of turists has also increased in Republic of Macedonia thanks to you. So, this dispute is beneficial in a way:)

[@jolemak]

very good video nice nice nice one day all "people" around macedonia will understand what exactly they are.

[@MKDlover]

How can Tito have influence on the modern tourism? You are out of your mind :)

[@igorbog88]

Macedonia was NEVER Greek, Bulgarian or Serbian. How could it be, when it 's our country - the MACEDONIANS

[@driftermorrelo]

hen Euripides who died and was buried in Macedonia (Thucydides apud Pal. Anth. 7.45; Pausanias 1.2.2; Diodorus Siculus 13.103) wrote his play Archelaos in honor of the great-uncle of Alexander, did he write it in Slavic? When he wrote the Bacchai while at the court of Archelaos did he not write it in Greek even as it has survived to us? Or should we imagine that Euripides was a Macedonian who wrote in Slavic (at a date when that language is not attested) which was translated into Greek?

[@driftermorrelo]

What was the language of instruction when Aristotle taught Alexander? What language was carried by Alexander with him on his expedition to the East? Why do we have ancient inscriptions in Greek in settlements established by Alexander as far away as Afghanistan, and none in Slavic?

[@oo111111]

bravo bre brat

[@igorbog88]

Imperaliasts? LOL Alexander the Macedonian was never geek !

[@UltraMacedon]

Бугари=Монголи

[@GznBz]

First of all THANK YOU for uploading this video... It also goes into my favorites... 1. In the map there is no name Macedonia.... Only Greece and Bulgaria. 2.Exactly the point of Greece. You are SLAVS that have nothing to do with ancient Greek Macedonia... Another own goal for Skopje.... Touchdown!

[@MKDlover]

I don't see it because we were not Peonia. Did you check the link for the map I sent you? Is your point that we call ourselves Macedonia only since 1945? Don't mix the things, then we got our indenpendence, but this piece of land has always been Macedonia.

[@ichalkias13]

@ivankoinarski I agree. The name "Bulgars" was known before the turks came, consider only that Basil II was called "Bulgarslayer" in the 10th century, and this is a proof enough.

[@driftermorrelo]

Alexanders father, Philip, won several equestrian victories at Olympia and Delphi (Plutarch, Alexander 4.9; Moralia 105A), the two most Hellenic of all the sanctuaries in ancient Greece where non-Greeks were not allowed to compete. If Philip was Greek, wasnt his son also Greek? "But Alexander proving himself to be an Argive, he was judged to be a Greek; so he contended in the furlong race and ran a dead heat for the first place". Herodotus V, 22, 2 (Loeb, A. D. Godley) There. Herodotus said it.

[@MKDlover]

Mr Wood is wrong, but even he was not, we exist, no matter at what basis.

[@driftermorrelo]

If they weren't Greek they wouldn't have been able to take part in the Olympic. It is THAT simple. They wrote Greek, look at the Pella curse tablet. They worshipped Greek gods. They and their cities had Greek names. According to you they were a separate nation who decided to get rid of their own culture and instead spread the Hellenic culture instead of their own. Right. That makes a lot of fucking sense. Bravo vdisavm.

[@mellake7052]

"He was at first refused as a barbarian, and it was only when by a BOLD FICTION he traced back the pedigree of his house, the Agreed, to the Herald Tameness of Argues, that he was admitted as a competitor." Key words: "Bold fiction". This is self-explanatory. Ulrich Wilken

[@igorbog88]

Genetic distances, neighbor-join¬ing dendrograms and correspondence analysis have been performed. The following conclusions have been reached: 1). Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians, 2). Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,

[@igorbog88]

Turk

[@MKDlover]

We are slavic and non-greek macedonians and that's it. Ancient Macedonians WERE hellenic tribe and they are part of history now. Modern ethnology recognizes separate greek and macedonian nation, whether you like it or not. I have understanding for the greek macedonians also, they share the macedonian teritory. But claiming that macedonian = greek is simply not true.

[@mellake7052]

“Neither Greeks nor Macedonians considered the Macedonians to be Greeks.” Professor E. Borza

[@MKDlover]

We are slavic macedonians, but still macedonians. No one denies existance of greek macedonians, too. What is so unreasonable there? How do you mean non-ethnic macedonians? We are separate etnos.

[@driftermorrelo]

So basically, since you are so sure, you must know a lot about ancient Macedonians right?

[@MKDlover]

Thanks for stating a greek / greek sponsored book :))) It must support your thesis :)

[@driftermorrelo]

lexanders great-great-great grandfather, Alexander I, was certified as Greek at Olympia and, in the words of the father of history I happen to know that [the forefathers of Alexander] are Greek (Herodotus 5.22). Alexanders father, Philip, won several equestrian victories at Olympia and Delphi (Plutarch, Alexander 4.9; Moralia 105A), the two most Hellenic of all the sanctuaries in ancient Greece where non-Greeks were not allowed to compete. If Philip was Greek, wasnt his son also Greek?

[@mellake7052]

‘It is noteworthy that only the reigning king of Macedon, and no other Macedonians, was considered sufficiently Greek to be permitted to enter the sacred Olympic Games as a competitor.’ Paul Cartledge, Alexander the Great: The Hunt for a New Past, MacMillan, London, 2004, p. 33

[@GznBz]

At that time YOUR part was indeed Serbian land. Before that the ENTIRE region was Bulgarian land... Before that the ENTIRE region was Ottoman land... Before that the ENTIRE region was again Bulgarian land... Before that the ENTIRE region was Byzantium land.. Before that YOUR region was PAEONIA... At the time that YOUR lands was Paeonia , Ancient Macedonian lands were GREEK and Bulgarian lands were Thrace and Walach... You see my point?

[@mellake7052]

Ditto Morea

[@GznBz]

this IS proof... a great proof that Macedonia was always Hellenic and that FYROMIANS are Slavs living in the wider region of Macedonia during the Ottoman occupation..

[@mellake7052]

“Neither Greeks nor Macedonians considered the Macedonians to be Greeks.” Professor E. Borza

[@driftermorrelo]

₪The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia... Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos (Thucydides 99,3 (Loeb, C F Smith) "No king of the Hellenes had ever conquered Egypt with the exception only of Alexander, and that he did without war" [Callisthenes of Olynthus 2.4.7-8; Oration of Demosthenes]

[@MKDlover]

None of this statement is true. Please tell me where did you get them.

[@igorbog88]

Excerpt from iGENEA research institute HLA genes in Macedonians and the sub-Saharan origin of the Greeks Abstract: HLA alleles have been determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing. HLA-A, -B, -DR, -DQ allele frequencies and extended haplotypes have been for the first time determined and the results compared to those of other Mediterraneans, par¬ticularly with their neighbouring Greeks.

[@AdmiralSpaceballs]

as shown by the map Macedonians in Bulgaria does not exist even propaganda can not create // според картата няма македонци в българия дори свястна пропаганда не могат да създадат

[@BG1878]

inteligentno momche kato teb trebva na vseka cena da gleda filma na BUGARASH-Българските исторически паметници в Цариград после ке поспорим...поздрав

[@mellake7052]

i.imgur.com/shWJXhf.jpg

[@driftermorrelo]

From Ancient Greek (Makedonia) "highland", from (makednos), "high, tall", from Doric Greek (makos), "height, length"; in Ionic Greek: (mekos). In Greek mythology, (Makedonia) was named after (Makedon), the patriarch of the Macedonians. Non-Greek people with a Greek name, hmmm

[@GznBz]

1. As this map mentions , you are not listed as Slav Macedonians but as Macedonian Slavs... This means only that you are Slavs that live in Macedonia. Exactly the Greek position on the matter. 2. You are Macedonian Slavs , but still a part of the wider Macedonia. If you don't want to join your true blood brothers(the Slavic people) , accept Slavomacedonia and be on your own. No one objects on that. 3. i got no link. send it again plz.

[@GznBz]

every way you look at it , nothing connects you to the ancient Macedonians... You are Slavs that came to the 6th century , when the ENTIRE region of Macedonia belonged somewhere else. You are not ethnic Macedonians , you are Slavs that through all those years gained a "Macedonian" conciousness... Therefore you are "MacoSlavs" or SlavoMacedonians... Be reasonable and no one will deny your acceptance to the EU and NATO.

[@delphic68]

Εξοχο το σχόλιο.

[@GznBz]

/watch?v=qSPPRoNIdfg At last the best confession from a FYROMian prime minister about Greece , Alexander the Great and Slavs.. People of Skopje started waking up!

[@mellake7052]

Fallmerayer

[@MKDlover]

Nobody is denying our slavic origin, what are you talking about? But it is not the only one we have. Be blind if you want so, reality says there are macedonians outside greece, that's us. Vardarska is no member anywhere because such country exists only in your myths :)

[@mellake7052]

Slavic-speaking. "Slavic" is a language group, not a nationality or an ethnicity.

[@driftermorrelo]

₪And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece. (Strab. VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones]) There goes your myth about Macedonia never being a region of Greece.

[@mellake7052]

"The fragments of Strabo's seventh book are quite uneven in value, and to cite Strabo for anything Macedonian is risky. For example what are we to make of an author (or his source) who puts the western boundaries of Macedonia at the coast of the Adriatic (freg.10), places its southern boundary at the Via Egnatia (freg.10), and has the mouth of the Haliacmon separating Dion from Pydna and Methone (fregs.20 and 22)?" (Borza 1990: 293). Most of the ancient geographers (including Strabo himself) unanimously placed the northern border of Greece at the Peneus River in the Vale Tempe, SOUTH OF Mount Olympus. "Beyond the river Peneus is the nation of the Macedonians", writes the ancient geographer Skylax in his work Periplous. Besides Strabo and Skylax, other ancient geographers that place Greece's northern boundary at the Peneus river include Dionysius, Diionisius of Calliphon. And a couple more: "I therefore draw limits of Hellas at the country of the Magnesiians, i.e., to the Vale of Tempe" (Dicaearchus). "Above Tempe towards Olympus is the region of the Macedonians" (Scymnus

[@artemiselene]

Slav macadononians/macedonians slavs.keyword: S L A V S ....aaaaahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!

[@igorbog88]

Turk girls, turk girls, how many times do I have to tell you... You are not Macedonian.

[@driftermorrelo]

lol ur kidding right?

[@ZeusTelemaxos]

Did I miss something? EVERY TIME it shows that ethnic breakdown..it clearly says SLAVS---MACEDONIAN SLAVS...Which means SLAVS living in GREEK Macedonia..If Slavs were Macedonians WHY would it call them "MACEDONIAN SLAVS"?

[@igorbog88]

" Great g(r)eek " ? hahahahaha Go home little muppet

[@rebellecci]

that's the only true even in your staff

[@GznBz]

1. i replied to this video 4 years ago. 2.Please let me clear your mind cause you can't see the obvious. IN THIS VIDEO it clearly states, at that time exist 7 different NATIONALITIES in europe. A. Slavs B.Slavo-mongols.Bulgarians C.Mongols D.Latins E.Albanians F.Greeks G. Germans All of them , NATIONALITIES... Macedonian Slavs CLEARLY belong in the SLAVIC NATIONALITY! Slavs that occupy part of the Macedonian region. They are NOT MENTIONED AS A SEPARATE NATIONALITY because they are GREEKS!

[@driftermorrelo]

Or should we believe that they spoke "Macedonian", a slavic language, which slavic didn't exist at that time and they didn't bother to write in slavic anywhere. Also they didn't bother to name themselves and their cities in their language. Instead they did it in Greek even though they didn't know Greek. They knew "macedonian". Dude what a load of bullshit you just said. Think about it.

[@driftermorrelo]

This video shows nothing. It just sais "macedonian slavs"................ If say, a chinese guy lives in Macedonia he could be called Macedonian chinese since he lives in the region Macedonia. Nobody said that they form a separate ethnicity.........

[@protokrator]

Към автора: Объркал си картата! Може би неси търсил достатъчно добре, за да намериш по-достоверни източници, откъдето да съдиш, че българите били монголи, защото ако потърсиш материали извън границите на своята македонска комплексарщина и си.

[@mellake7052]

imgur.com/a/0w7mB

[@terry387]

Bravo Corrinagirl, kala ta eipes. kurva einai kai doupa

[@driftermorrelo]

Besides it clearly shows SLAVS. Ancient Macedonians werent SLAVS.........

[@mellake7052]

Which part of the world is ancient today? Are there Pharaohs or Vikings roaming around, beating their chests today?

[@jempappas]

One word: dillusional

[@terry387]

bulgarian