EU directive to BAN Chrome plating! Why it is more serious than you have been told!

[@Ghryst]

FuctFact#69 : reducing overall global carbon outputs emitted by steel manufacturing plants by extending an objects useful lifespan many times over by protecting it from rust with a coating of *CHROME IS MORE POLLUTING THAN A DIESEL ENGINE* ⁽ᵖʳᵒᵈᵘᶜᵉᵈ ᶜᶦʳᶜᵃ ¹⁹³⁶, ᵒᵖᵉʳᵃᵗᵉᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ⁰.⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰⁷ ˢᵉᶜ⁾

[@Tripnode01]

nickel ?

[@jefferyboring4410]

Nitride coating

[@PAVANZYL]

So let's replace it with stainless steel. Oops...

[@virus-hoax]

What about powder coating?

[@Ghryst]

a well applied coat of chromium lasts far longer than any of the above suggestions. as he mentioned in the video, shock absorber pistons are a prime example of the wear-ability and lifespan of chrome plating. plus is has excellent anti-friction properties for moving parts that none of the above can even come close to.

[@jakobusphsteyn3500]

Maybe getting rid of the political class in its current state is needed to keep sanity going.

[@varmastiko2908]

Perhaps that might reveal the people calling the shots. So I doubt that will ever be allowed to happen.

[@simonthompson3627]

This I agree is a major problem. It is obvious that politicians appointed as ministers are generally inept and unqualified to run a ministry and so the cycle of the Civil Servants continues. If, however, you appointed ministers with the right skills and gave them the power to sack the Civil Servants if they did not toe the goverment's line, then maybe, just maybe we could make some progress. We are politically, without a doubt, in a shitty position and have to do something drastic to change the way we are being controlled and dictated to.

[@MucaroBoricua]

History has proven that your approach works.

[@cuhurun]

jak... not a maybe, it's an affirmative. They're nothing less than evil.

[@brianblithe2271]

I tried to figure out the Netherlands and why the anti immigration man is still not the President as an American and I cant even understand how Europe has made intelligent thought so complex and drawn out that it makes not much actual intelligent and needed work being done.

[@martinharris5017]

"How to sabotage your own industry 101". The CCP must be laughing their tits off.

[@bluedragontoybash2463]

Dont forget the Russian

[@yfelwulf]

Actually its CPC maybe we need their Government sensible politicians planning for the future putting their people first. FYI AmeriGoy China has more BILLIONAIRE'S & MILLIONAIRE'S than the rest of tge world combined the buggest most technically advanced country in the world. Poor Israelistan a failed state.

[@Lurch-Bot]

Maybe don't get all your info on the topic from one stilted and misrepresented view....Chrome is a road safety hazard and this ban only apples to decorative chrome plating on vehicles.

[@muncheymuncher3368]

@@Lurch-Bothow the heck is it a road hazard????

[@celuler22]

@@Lurch-Bot please explain how its a road hazard?

[@5ebra1]

The future stinks if we let these politicians have their way. Nobody voted for this nonsense.

[@rutessian]

What do you mean? One of the EU's core values is democracy.

[@Umbrey_Dunctum]

If you don't want to trade with EU don't, no one's forcing you to.

[@rutessian]

@@Umbrey_Dunctum Great job on missing the point! Are you an expert?

[@foxstrangler]

Love the sarcasm. @@rutessian

[@Janet-v7v]

They are not politicians they are unelected bureaucrats with conflict of interests

[@mprime6807]

I'm still trying to figure out how we continue allowing a small faction to dictate what the majority can legally possess.

[@asandax6]

Fear and ignorance. People don't realize they can actually create new institutions to oppose the old ones if they don't like how something is being regulated.

[@tonn333]

​@@asandax6problem is... small group with too much power Solution according to you: more groups with too much power 😂

[@vmcauley]

By voting for anti British Conservatives Labour Lib Dem & Green parties....

[@stevemartin7464]

The issue in the EU is the democratic deficit; they can issue "Directives" with no way for people to stop them. I think the EU parliament as a whole needs to go, there needs to be more democracy.

[@mprime6807]

@@stevemartin7464 We seem to have a similar issue with unelected/appointed positions in the States. By design, insulated from direct public accountability.

[@jimjoelliejack]

It’s bloody ridiculous, how the hell do you build diggers and hydraulic plant without chrome? All of my machines in my company have chrome protected rams. Another pathetic EU knee jerk law.

[@G4WYZ]

Have you read the EU directive, ie what it actually says?

[@fredmercury1314]

Electro-hardened stainless steel?

[@pamelablake7647]

Its MrT correct even chain saws cutting teeth are hard chrome coating to give long lasting cut

[@jimjoelliejack]

@@anthonybrown4874 on machinery such as hydraulic rams quality chrome will outlive the machines life, stainless steel isn’t as strong as hardened steel.

[@CharlesStevenage]

Lol you deserve it 😂

[@savagegfry]

Being a Metallurgist, who specialised in manufacturing, retired, I can tell you that we cannot do without Hard Chrome. Everything from Automotive to Mining and various farm equipment, depends on it, as does wear part reclaimation, for said equipment. You're right, this is a significant step to intentional deindustrialisation.

[@sergiozammel8261]

Thank you for some sanity.

[@juliogonzo2718]

You are lucky to be retired. I am 40 and realistically, unless I die in a politically induced famine, have like 20 to 40 years left on this shitty planet

[@smnkumarpaul]

Instead of banning list, EU should come up with allowed list. That would be a smaller and easer one to follow. Everytime I hear EU is doing something, it is either banning something or giving others money for war.

[@paulkopp3634]

You should be grateful, after all thousands of unelected bureaucrats in Europe are doing this all for our own good . We should have stayed in the EU shouldn’t we so our nice German and French nanny’s could have looked after us better with ever more rules and regulations to keep us safe , from ourselves.

[@smnkumarpaul]

@@mikethespike7579 Hitler was also a Elected. So, just because you gets to elect someone, does not mean you get to choose policies.

[@TheGrobe]

Someone has to test the policies they implement in North America a few years later…

[@MrBowsmith]

I think the unelected, unaccountable and unwanted EU, have no business making any wish list(s) at all.

[@PrivateSi]

They're just like Trad. Cons in that respect, especially Christians and Muslims (although Christian Westerners were by far the worst).. More and more desired products and services banned until the black market is bigger than the real economy. Conservatism and Communism are two sides of the same bent and twisted coin. Bunch of banners.. Why can't they just be proper Liberals? It's not a lot to ask. All they have to do is let people just get on with it, let the market decide and all that Liberal philosophy. Lefties aren't liberal to me. They're like Conservatives.

[@johnd6325]

Ban the WEF, unsupport your local politician.

[@patrickcannell2258]

Lock Klaus up. Solitary confinement

[@davidbrown7538]

I don’t see how chrome will be completely eradicated as it is used for brake caliper pistons and of course rams on industrial earth moving equipment.

[@preonmodel9906]

It’s everywhere… Even in heat pumps that the EU insist that you have to heat your home 😬

[@Denise-vn8wz]

Probably in medical and dental instruments too.

[@anneloving8405]

Well not one of these WEF people has any experience in the real world,they think chrome is only used to decorate cars...

[@Biochemechanic]

It will be farmed out to other countries that will be happy to not follow any basic environmental containments.

[@bigglyguy8429]

@@anthonybrown4874 Tell that to the 'stainless steel' of my jetty that broke the other week, after rusting through?

[@wq5lb]

It's not about chrome plating or the environment... it's about control...!!!

[@Frank_inSA]

I don't get what they want to control with a (chrome) plating ban... It's idiocy like in the film idiocrazy

[@The_Future_isnt_so_Bright]

@@Frank_inSA Ball bearings and all machinery use chrome. They want you back in the dark ages. No power, just serfs in the fields.

[@MFKR696]

@@Frank_inSA Think of it this way... They're probing the lines, to see how far they can push before we start pushing back.

[@Mr-84]

EU directive ? , UK isn’t part of the EU anymore . What am I missing here ? Surely this can’t become reality.

[@colinmartin2921]

We never left.

[@mattsta1964]

We never left the EU

[@rockerjim8045]

@@colinmartin2921we just abandoned our involvement

[@paulroberts7561]

After brexit we have all the disadvantages but non of the advantage.

[@colinmartin2921]

@@paulroberts7561 Not true - we can vote out our political rulers and stop Net Zero, no-one in the EU has that ability.

[@treimar]

I work in the automotive industry in EU. Our factory in particular started to phase out Chromium-6 years ago. Chromium-3 is now used. Plating for decorative purposes was banned in 2019 and our industry was given a grace period until 2024. Chromium-3 isn't as durable of course but it still gets the job done and is far less toxic.

[@TremereTT]

I still remember when they banned lead from fuel or CFC from spraycans and all the idiots all cried out... And as in many cases Chromium-3 is ok, there is allready good enough replacement and I'm sure the industry will find a even better replacement, innovation is driven by pressure.

[@NanClaymore]

@@TremereTT Innovation is driven by a lot of things. Yeah, being forced to get around restrictions is one. It's also driven by access to a multitude of different options and processes. So likely some innovations will come about as a result of this ban, likely some other innovations will be lost. If the EU was serious about improving people's health they would outright ban smoking long before Cr6 plating. Smoking causes orders of magnitude more cancer cases than Cr6 electroplating, and as far as I know, there are no established useful engineering applications for lit cigarettes.

[@domingodeanda6113]

@@NanClaymore Exactly

[@nos9784]

​@@NanClaymorei think the good' old lit cigarette and match booklet time delay is technically an engineering application. But i don't know if thats more hollywood or OSS.

[@simonthompson3627]

There is only one way to deal with these sociopaths - walk away! That means voting in your independent MP's that have to work together to have a job and who will tell the EU to p155 off. Due to the fact that the mainstream parties will just go along with what the WEF tell them to do. Change your government and make them once again, afraid of the electorate! Sorry for the rant Stu.

[@LukeTPZ]

Because the EU is a huge market, the manufacturers won’t make separate products for separate markets, so chrome will all-but stop altogether anyway…regardless of what we do with our MPs

[@Ofelas1]

​@@LukeTPZAsia will ignore and move on, what do you think the BRICS are doing? Green energy or no Nuclear Power? The West is committing suicide

[@leswatson8563]

No rant sir just well put 👍

[@varmastiko2908]

Time to put aside all childish fantasies. Voting is a scam and democracy never existed.

[@kevinbartram5302]

Do you really think that voting will make any difference? it never has before.

[@2dollarbill650]

Working in the aerospace industry we work with "hard"plating all the time. I can't imagine what we would do without it.

[@cojones8518]

and hydraulic cylinders, chrome is good for wear resistance in those applications.

[@Saviliana]

And don't forget chemical resistance pipelines, good luck putting your toxic corrosive things through the 1202 without chromed the inside. Last time people with "Big brain" done that, let's just say that things went south very very quickly and a whole town paid the price of it, and still to this day the result of the problem haven't ended/

[@anthonyprice5596]

I though Hitler had been dealt with, but now we have his offspring making the rules! Im sure Klaus and Ursula are his children.

[@anneloving8405]

Mmmm,probably part their Eugenics programs...

[@bobbod8069]

Ooops. It didn't take long to bring Hitler into it.😆

[@burnthetv007]

Well, his daughter Merkel wasn’t opposed to it. That speaks volumes.

[@a8f235]

Well, Nazism is national socialism and most people are just talking about socialism or fascism or communism or marxism. I believe we're in a messed up salad mix of all the ism's and the one that most people ignore that is rather the mastermind behind it all is nazism. So many see nazism only as far-right winged, while it's got a bit of everything. When you look at Klaus Schwab you clearly see a cold and rotten person who would simply like to rule the world alone. He is public enemy number 1, no doubt. I see the same kind of mentality in Ursula, and it's quite sickening to hear these people talking openly about their plans. Nobody but these nazis want this and they have convinced themself there is no other future for humanity, except that's just a choice which means they can UNchoose it. They believe in their own doomsday nonsense and talk of AI and what not. If they would just stop what they are doing, it all would stop. These people want no accountability so how can they see anything but their lies...

[@shaundadson8302]

Klaus's dad did have business links to the Nazi party, so he's just carrying on the family business....

[@IvanMectin]

Until we all say no, our freedoms will continue to be taken away. "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing" Edmund Burke, Pini Dunner, Thomas Jefferson, etc.

[@stevemartin7464]

Yup, but people are slowly waking up, the farmers are just the start. The people will have to stand up and say "no more" at some point. This is insane.

[@TheZebinator]

Don't get me started fedposting about our current world leaders

[@colinmartin2921]

Chrome has been effectively banned for the last ten years at least, due to the cost! I took some old bike parts to the chrome platers about five years ago and he told me that the price would be ridiculous, due to the regulations that they have to now comply with. As for the EU, it is simply the new colonial power, taking over and dictating to countries what they can and cannot do.

[@paul5683]

Part of the problem is that decorative chrome is a very labor intensive process. First the steel surface has to be polished to a mirror finish. Then it's a multiple step process, first a caustic cleaning, then a nickle plating, then a copper plating with cleaning and additional polishing between each surface and then a thin flash of soft chrome. Yes, soft chrome because it needs to be able to flex and bend. Hard chrome can't be put on thin steel that will bend . These are two different materials.

[@howardosborne8647]

@@paul5683 The classic decorative chrome plating is often referred to as triple plated chrome as it relates to the 3 step process of Copper then Nickel then the chromium over the top of the previous 2 metals.

[@snuffle2269]

@@paul5683I think of every hydraulic and pneumatic cylinder shaft as being plated along with bore and sections of bearings. Take us back to the stone age Ursula. And please don't threaten us. If you think the farmers are threatening best think about D-8 bulldozers advancing on the police.

[@marshad82]

​@@snuffle2269 You reminded me of the myth of the English calendar riots of 1752, when Britain switched to Gregorian calendar (some 170 years after other European powers): "Give us our eleven days!’

[@Superliegebeest0]

Nickelplating or copper is an option

[@leonmadden2449]

Eu trying to force cars and bikes of the road by any stupid means possible

[@hurricanefury439]

How have Europeans not revolted yet?

[@stuartfillingham]

Err I think the farmers already have!

[@ryaandnice]

Because for 3 generations their school systems have created nice little sheep that have been told speaking up against anything that claims to be for the environment or "equity" must be evil. It worked. The people are fangless, except for the farmers.

[@ffs5532]

Europeans are no different to Brits or other critically thinking humans...they just happen to have been born in another country

[@gefparx6442]

They are , but it's all kept hidden ? Corporate media isn't reporting any of the protests going on all over Europe ?

[@TonyTheTruthWhisperer]

What is the point in revolting ? Chrome is a miniscule issue in the face of illegal immigrants and most folks recognise the end of western culture is at hand.

[@omniversling]

Fits perfectly with the WEF plan to phase out private transport vehicles...

[@dirtmcgirt168]

Why not just switch to Trivalent coating? Much less harmful gases during production. Have a quick google sometimes before you take things at face value. Im not sure the wef are involved in this one…

[@crazycoffee]

​@@dirtmcgirt168it's only really advantage in practice is more rust resistance. It has a tendency to sheer under pressure and heat loads. Why we stopped getting new rams. look at all the surfaces chrome is used in. Brake caliper pistons, bearings, hydraulic rams, pneumatic rams, certain screens, heat pumps in your house. There is a lot that we can swap chrome plated parts out with internally. On the other hand the consequences equal more parts which means more production which leads to more pollution. This is sadly about power because the people wanting it have no clue what they're talking about

[@pgtmr2713]

@@dirtmcgirt168 Who else would have a financial interest in sabotaging every industry? Someone had to pay the politicians. Also the bills that go in front of politicians are not written by them. They're pre written by the interested party. Also there is no competition for the WEF, only the WEF, and their idiots have been placed strategically already. Climate changers, whether wittingly or not, already work for them. They're all going to find themselves in prison, or running from the law by 2030.

[@clutchkicker392ison5]

Rich ppl making rules for the rest of us .

[@gefparx6442]

THE GREAT RESET ? It's all about devaluing societies ? Make them poorer , to make them compliant ? Bigger profits for half the amount of product and produce ? "You will own nothing , and be happy " ? Klaus - the goose step - Schwab ?

[@proudbucketbucket9205]

Here in Lecheria, people die of cancer from chromium pollution. The factory closed decades ago but the groundwater and soil are still polluted.

[@stuartfillingham]

same is happening with particulate pollution from automotive tyres. 1800 times more pollution than tailpipe emissions. Thats before you even consider that it is now in the food chain! should we ban tyres too?

[@geofrancis2001]

@@stuartfillingham not where the factory was, that land is contaminated along with the water, but its a small price to pay for a shiny bike..

[@ragemachine4991]

Nasty chemicals from chroming and disposal of waste, now look at the way EV batteries are and will be disposed of, Shredding and smelting is the cheaper option and is therefore more commonly used, unfortunately it is not the most efficient process as materials are lost and the process is powered by fossil fuels. Using acid is more expensive but preserves a lot more of the material, however it consumes a lot of energy and produces toxic gas and wastewater. It is estimated that 500,000 gallons of water is required to extract one tonne of lithium. Hypocrisy! you decide?

[@Demopans5990]

lithium extraction just uses brine aka seawater, and a lot of sun. It's why a lot of lithium mining happens in deserts Theoretically, you could just extract the lithium from seawater, however the price of LiCO3 currently doesn't justify such a process

[@mcmullen7143]

I remember when the first of the extractor legislation was introduced. In Germany their government paid for every installation. In the U.K. our industry was told to pay for it themselves and install extra kit not required by Europe. We had one local factory that plated a great many aero parts and were recognised as world leaders. They soon closed down being unable to compete on a level playing field. Very sad all round.

[@ianseddon9347]

Our weekly dose of EU joy 😖😤 Since all social democratic ( and leftier) leaders seem to believe we serfs should not be allowed independent travel then I guess another nail in our coffin won’t matter. I wonder how they’ll get the planet saving buses and trains (and even pushbikes) to work without hard chrome!

[@ryaandnice]

That's right - you guys are turning back into serfs. It's happening in the US too, but we had a longer way to fall. The grapes of wrath are growing large.

[@Ofelas1]

WEF=EU but also UK, see 15minute Ghettos etc. They try and implement their agenda here and there, ultimately everywhere

[@kronop8884]

This has been coming for years and its not just in the EU and there are perfectly good replacement methods to achieve the bling factor, switching from the current hexavalent chrome plating to trivalent chrome delivers the same level of finish and protection while significantly reducing toxic substances used. The main drawback of the trivalent method is that it can’t yet be used to manufacture the hard chrome required for aerospace components, for example. This, however, is largely irrelevant in the context of automotive styling, as large manufacturers can simply make the switch from hexavalent to trivalent chrome once the ban is enacted. Aerospace firms, meanwhile, could well be given special exemptions that allow them to continue to manufacture hex chrome until a viable alternative is developed for certain components.

[@stephensaines7100]

California's regulations are even more strict. Do some research. Here's a novel idea: Use Google.

[@Frank_inSA]

​@@kronop8884sure, sure But he didn't talk about bling but hard chrome. It's not only the aerospace industry which needs the properties of hard chrome

[@jdesaavedra0432]

The big global challenge we face is this creeping fascism in the name of "climate"

[@drachman3149]

No ICE, no chrome, no reliable energy.....and nothing to replace those things. Good move, EU.

[@jimhallinsn1023]

I think our supine government and public servants will go along with it after all in there world we.Don't we need farmers or reliable cheap energy.

[@spaceshipearth356]

You will own donkey and be happy. 😂 Untill they tell you it farts too much that is.

[@shadoman7682]

They won't be happy until everyone is living in cave's & not eating anything because it's environmentally unfriendly.

[@robinwatters572]

Don't forget that a lot of motorcycles have chrome cylinder bores as well!

[@terraplane49]

EVs use bearings. Someone should tell them. Mind you, they are, after all, the Ministry of Truth.

[@howardosborne8647]

Bearings are made from steel alloys that contain a percentage of chromium but that is not chromium plating.

[@stanbondarev9256]

​@@howardosborne8647some bearings need hard-Cr plating even having been made of INOX steel.

[@lizard450]

The EU is becoming a serious problem.

[@dianaroach3093]

So is the UN and WEF.

[@GT380man]

Thank you, Stuart. I’ve been busy fighting the EUs and of course our home generated misinformation, such as on the safe & effective injections. So my hobby, vintage Suzuki GT380/750 have been ignored. I didn’t know about the chrome ban. Apart from the control & irritation aspects, what a shame. Those final, top quality chrome platers I’ve helped keep in business must have recently closed. I’m lucky to have had chromed a remanufactured full set of pipes for my Kettle in my loft, along with a set of chromed Allspeeds from Holland and a couple of NOS outers for my little 380. But the other bits I was always going to get done later & never did, like the rare single stanchion (sp?) front mudguard for the 380. I remember being chuffed to have won it on ebay a decade ago and I often find that lightweight box, saying to myself, “I must send that off somewhere”. Unless I can persuade someone it’s a mudguard from a Messerschmidt, that’s not getting chromed. It’s definitely being done to degrade our lives, because that’s all the EU is for. I think you’re correct in that there are no practical alternatives for several critical applications. The end of hard chroming effectively ends the motorcycle restoration business completely, because in most cases, a functional as well as aesthetic restoration usually involves sending your fork legs off for grinding back, hard chroming and then precision fine grinding to finished exact size to a fraction of a thousandth of an inch as well as straightening them as part of the process. If you cannot get this done, the bike cannot be done to the highest spec. I will be treating the two pairs of perfect fork legs I have at present like the irreplaceable objects they now are. One minor off and that’ll be the end of the bike. I might buy someone else’s very nicely restored bike, just to have a source of nicely chromed parts I can filch, but that’s not an option for most people or the rest with any sense. I’m stubborn like that. Your wider point is well taken. In numerous applications there really isn’t a good alternative. Nickel plating is inferior and was superseded by chrome plating about a century ago. Yes, it’s particularly nasty stuff in solution, but like you, I’m extremely dubious about the environmental gains from banning it & estimate those gains as too small to be calculable. Exempting aerospace is breathtaking, isn’t it? I’m making a bet that Formula 1 is going to be classified as aerospace, with some justification, as engineering standards have been equivalent if not higher for all of its existence. And of course, those private jets to convey his & her nibs from a G20 to the annual WEF meeting in Switzerland, to COP whatever, to “Summer Davos” (did you know these have exclusively been held in China for many years?) via Monaco for the Grand Prix surely mustn’t be interrupted in any way. They actually land at Nice airport, where we own a modest gaff and around the local F1 shindig, the waves of very expensive executive jets parked side by side extends halfway down the Promenade des Anglais, followed by furious helicopter shuttles to Monaco. Do you know if the chrome used in Porsche nikasil plated bores is likely affected? If so, they will not be able to use completely aluminium blocks any more and will need to use pressed-in cast iron liners (or said liners cast-in to the ally blocks in manufacture). That’ll also mean all European spec GT550LMAB motors needing very expensive modifications to any cylinders where Nikasil is damaged. It probably won’t matter, because bike restoration will anyway have stopped. I’ll say absolutely nothing about pandemics or anything safe & effective, because I don’t want this post deleted, though it probably will be anyway, because the cockroaches who moderate YT don’t like me (the feelings mutual, you idiotic traitors!). All the best, Mike

[@GeorgeMcRay]

ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY RIGHT!

[@varmastiko2908]

Oh but you have no worries about deletion. If you argue about safe&effective you're very much in the clear because the real issue isn't mentioned then.

[@boyfromblackstuff7859]

Excellent post, right over the target!

[@montaguable]

What will they do for hydraulic cylinder rods?

[@job1bf]

No more airplane landing gear!

[@FutureSystem738]

“500 times worse than a diesel engine”? What a load of utter garbage! Thanks for this - we live in interesting times. 😢

[@themekfrommars]

I replaced a table top for a customer this week. Their previous one had lasted a year before skin oils softened the water-based paint and turned the whole massive chunk of chipboard into landfill. Environmental policy at work no doubt.

[@TheOwlman]

No surprises for me here, I remember how ROHS impacted the electronics industry when we had to eliminate lead from solder and electronic components. The company I worked for managed pretty well but my friend's three man company was forced to completely redesign some of their equipment because the microchip they used contained a fraction of a gram of lead and no lead free version was available. The ridiculous part of this is that the board controlled solar charging of a lead acid battery containing a couple of kilograms of lead and exempt from the regulations, so bravo EU. Nice to see footage of part of what used to be my journey home from work; if that is up to date then I can look forward to southbound -contraflow- lane closure next week when I make a visit north - something I became used to in 40 years of using it!

[@simonthompson3627]

Thanks!

[@stuartfillingham]

Thank you Simon!

[@Ifitwerks]

Stainless steel contains chrome in varying percentages, is that next?

[@joecandy6490]

I think you have a gross misunderstanding of what stainless steel is and how it is made… this video and the EU directive is about chrome “plating” and the current process that is used to achieve it, not the chrome itself.

[@Ifitwerks]

@@joecandy6490 10 to 12% content in stainless steel is a fact. go and troll someone else, I simply asked a question knowing the predictability of EU dictat.

[@clivemilnes1560]

Thanks

[@stuartfillingham]

Wow! thank you clive!

[@jjrider6758]

Interesting factoid - One of the reasons why plumbing products are often chrome plated is that when un-plated brass comes into contact with a damp or wet atmosphere it starts to produce a green waxy deposit called 'Verdigris', which has highly toxic biocidal properties.. An indication of just how extremely toxic Verdigris is was discovered during an archaeological dig on the World War One battlefields of the Somme which was tasked with trying to find evidence of the infamous 'first day'.. In some areas the diggers kept finding fired brass bullet casings (British), obviously this is not at all unusual on World War One battlefield digs, but each one of these was laid on a small patch of what looked like straw. Of course we normally think of the Somme being a shell-blasted muddy 'moonscape', but on the 'first day' parts of the battlefield were actually still covered in long grass, Archaeologists realised that the small patches of 'straw' under each spent bullet casing were in fact flattened down grass that the bullet casings had landed on just after being ejected from a rifle and which had probably been buried almost immediately with soil blown out of shell craters. These patches of grass had then been prevented from rotting for almost 100 years by the biocidal effects of the Verdigris that had formed on the brass bullet casings, meaning that the casings were indeed very probably fired on the 'first day' of the battle..

[@davidwhitehouse2162]

The European Commission granted authorisations for five uses of chromium trioxide in December 2020, including functional chrome plating and surface treatment. The current authorisations expire in September 2024, but authorisation holders can re-apply by submitting a review report to ECHA by March 2023. The European Parliament took legal action against the Commission in March 2021 to annul the decision, saying it is in breach of EU regulation. The legal process is ongoing. When you understand that MEP's hardly ever know what they are voting on, who knows what legislation gets passed at the Brussels Club. I am surprised that the motor manufacturer lobby hasn't been busy to kick this one down the road, giving a few 'incentives' to the bureaucrats to forget this particular crusade. With the present financial problems across Europe, I would have thought trade and particularly supply chain security, would be of utmost importance so banning an industrial process instead of maybe adding more protections, is a dim witted approach, but that's bureaucracy for you.

[@wough_tanker8254]

but it won't matter in the long run as the plan is that ordinary people wont own cars or motorcycles - or houses or......well, anything - but apparently we WILL be happy

[@paulkopp3634]

As a regular watcher of events in the USA , the speech from the lady with the excerpt regarding disinformation and misinformation is startlingly similar to what’s going on across the pond where there is also this this “ Our truth and our information ( government) is the only thing you should trust . I’m with you . Let’s remember the old saying “ Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you “.

[@varmastiko2908]

And when they accuse you of being paranoid then you know you bloody well have a reason to be.

[@EvanHeisler-w6l]

Great video! I love the look of chrome. Just look at a 1964 S Series Jaguar in the sunlight - glorious! The trouble with chrome today is that the quality has decreased significantly from the "old days". Modern chrome plating doesn't last unless you spend countless hours cleaning and polishing the wheels. My Triumph 1200 Speedmaster started to rust after a couple of years especially the wheel rims. Similarly my 2019 Bullet Trials is showing signs of corrosion on the rims despite being regularly washed and polished and stored in a ventilated shed. So I am not too fussed about the probable end of chrome.

[@alan-sk7ky]

Exactly...

[@Richard-r1x7d]

When they came for chrome I did nothing……. It is impossible to recognise the thin end of the wedge if you don’t know what a wedge is.

[@stetsonscott8209]

I was talking with my lady last week about the strangest or most unlikely items that would destroy the world instantly if they dissappeared, ball bearings were one of them.

[@mikelight]

This is very concerning. This will have far reaching consequences for the agricultural and construction sectors who depend on hydraulic systems. Even the smallest tractor has hydraulic rams on the steering system! Thats before you get any where near the large tractors and impliments that facilitate our food production and the excavators that build our homes. I dont know where to begin when it comes to bearings.....

[@grahamsmith8091]

Don't worry about farming. There won't be any.

[@anneloving8405]

The Elites will still have their Chrome covered cars.

[@MrDoboz]

u don't need tractors for worm farms lmao

[@etienneprinsloo6799]

You can’t place a blanket ban on all chrome applications. What about hard chroming on hydraulic cylinders? This will destroy earth moving, mining, automotive and a slew of other industrial equipment.

[@adamcousins2459]

as another commenter said, it is intentional de-industrialization. You will own donkey and be happy!

[@gadget1473]

In California USA what I notice is its going underground. It can be responsibly achieved if one can avoid big brother government. Most people want to be safe and good to the environment however the powers that be are not in anyway respected. Common sense is and life goes on .

[@gavinminion8515]

To paraphrase yourself at 6:59 - "It became so prohibitively expensive for (Safe Chrome plating) businesses to run that all chrome plating was moved to Asia where environmental and health protection is less of a concern". I would be concerned that you are balancing your desire to have shiny motorcycle parts against the health and wellbeing of tens of thousands of people in Asia, and justifying this desire by saying "This is about policing the rest of the world". In this case I would argue that we are not policing the rest of the world - China and India are free to continue to produce as much unsafe chrome plating as their internal markets will demand until their governments realise the health concerns and ban it too. This is about prohibiting the sale in Europe.

[@stuartfillingham]

No! Its you that is doing that by taking what i said and presenting it out of context. Which is a pathetic way of entering into a conversation!

[@stevewalker1677]

You have just proved exactly what he said in the video. its a protectionist racket intended to cripple developing economies. You cant compete so you are trying to hold their economies back! shame on you!

[@gavinminion8515]

@@stuartfillingham Interesting that I am concerned and you dismiss my concerns as pathetic. If I have somehow misunderstood your video, then it appears so have many of the commenters below (who are only too happy to agree with you but appear to be sharing the same viewpoint I am disagreeing with). To clairfy, EUREACH is proposing to move Hexavalent Chromium from 'Authorisation' status to 'Restricted' status in 2024. My belief is that you are against this proposal? My belief is that you do not consider trivalent chrome plating to be a suitable alternative? I could not find any specific reasoning in your video regarding why trivalent chrome is inferior or unsuitable - please feel free to enlighten me. Whilst I am unsure what you are advocating in your video, your comment at 6:59 does appear to be the jist of it. Please let me know what this comment actually meant - or alternatively just dismiss me in the way you did in your first response. I try to understand the arguments of those I disagree with, but you are under no such obligation.

[@timhicks2154]

Is this more Eco Bilge?

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Yes. Everything the EU does is some eco BS. They don't care about health, wealth, or happiness of the people, just the environment.

[@rl7881]

RE have already addressed the chrome plating ban by introducing their range of black finished motor cycles over the last few years. Bob Black has also addressed the issue with his black bobber. We recovered nicely from eliminating asbestos from every day materials, thus saving many future generations from horrible deaths, having had to work with it. So I’m sure that we’ll all come to accept replacements for chrome plating, in the knowledge that we’re not poisoning waterways and areas of sea, and ultimately our own food sources. There will be suitable replacements, even if they haven’t been developed yet. Necessity will drive this.

[@ApocGuy]

While we're trying to save the planet, Japan I'd releasing millions of highly radioactive water into the seas...

[@Demopans5990]

@ApocGuy Tritium has a half life of about a decade. They've been holding that water for more than 10 years now Tritium also isn't that radioactive, night sights for handguns use tritium these days, better than back when a bunch of products used radium of all things

[@ataphelicopter5734]

@@ApocGuymillions of water huh? Man tritium in that concentration makes absolutely no difference, probably get more irradiated from a granite building

[@regd.2263]

Thank God we're not in the EU says he knowing full well we never really left.

[@philaudiostrike8746]

What material are hydraulic cylinders supposed to use ?

[@manuelhaug4053]

The the EU market is peanuts compared to the global market and could be ignored by the big manufacturers. We shouldn’t over estimate our importance

[@leswatson8563]

Morning Stewart. 2017 my old mate just finished rebuilding his 1981 or 1982 Harley Sportster when this announcement came out. He called me to chat about this. Why, because of the wheel and engine bearings he just fitted. As we chatted that day I remember saying that this ban must have exceptions. Because if not, ships, wind turbines and power station turbines shafts would soon grind to a halt, literally! John passed away in 2020 just before my wife. He kept telling he could find no published data to support this pending ban. Nor what harden chrome bearings would be replaced by? And as for John, myself and many old mates no longer with us... We're a huge fan of chrome. Made our motorcycles stand out once a rebuild was completed. That's why we were once big fans of them old bike mags like Back Street Heroes. Even some of them spray jobs were to die for! So how long before certain known toxic paints will be banned causing more problems for industry??? Brilliant vid again Stewart so in the mean time, safe cruising sir 👍😊. Now I will read the comments other have left 🤘...

[@iwb316]

The Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive 2002/95/EC was the start the ban but as you noted there were exception. In the turbo-machinery industry sector hard chrome was used as a repair process to journal and seal areas of turbine and compressor shafts as an alternative to repair by welding. Repair by hard chrome of seal areas fell out of favour during the 90's with welding becoming the dominant repair process. Since late 2000 HVOF spraying has gained favour for repair.

[@leswatson8563]

I have retired, but my old company mates keep me updated of changes every now and then. Not sure if these changes are for the good though?

[@kenandbarbie-b6c]

The UK was correct in distancing themselves from the EU because they come up with stupid bans like this, so why does the UK still follow the EU without much real thought? Moving pollution across the world to a more environmentally reckless country is irresponsible & shameful. It’s not just the automotive industry affected by this.

[@driverjamescopeland]

"...manufacturers worldwide are going to have to start looking at alternatives to chrome..." Edit: the world is full of alternatives to the EU. Keep the chrome.

[@NewWorldHoarder]

Burning a candle produces 500 times more pollution than peeling a standard carrot.🥕

[@JoeBManco]

Hydraulics in tractors and aircraft always use chrome. What will replace that?

[@JackosJingles]

I thought we had left the evil empire.

[@anneloving8405]

There is a new evil empire in town and it's much worse than the last one.

[@tobymaltby6036]

We have. It's decisions still affect us, that's all. Evil Empires are like that.

[@JimboXX78]

Market forces

[@johnanson2396]

I do wonder with the 7 years notice, what alternatives for the millions of wear products the worlds industrial R&D departments have been working on. I worked in the plant industry, and I am at a loss as to what the powers that be thought the alternatives were, before launching this.

[@sergiozammel8261]

HA! don't worry , these unelected sticky beaks know far more than Engineers and scientists. It'll all come to fruition you'll see !

[@michaeledmondson5100]

Politicians should learn to😢 think. If anybody tries to steal my chrome plated taps they'll end up in hospital. The grotty thin plating used on car trims is a pain, but proper chrome plating and resilient bearings are life and environment savers. Them buggers'd do better by banning politicians instead.

[@rationalityfirst]

Oh, they think. But only of their political clientele. They are completely compromised.

[@brianmorris8045]

The EU can tell all they want. What makes them such an authority to dictate to other countries? Chrome has been around for so long. I've had no trouble cleaning chrome. And looks better when it's nice and clean.

[@bernardabrial2318]

Thank you Stuart for this video. As always, your English and your pronunciation are delighting ! I was not aware of this chromium ban project ! Please carry on with your wonderful work. I live in Brittany and ride my Interceptor as often as the sky make it enjoyable.

[@demand15]

like governments all over the world, the sooner we all unite and say 'NO' the sooner it all stops

[@7891ph]

The last I heard, Great Britain was no longer a member of the EU; doesn't that mean that local laws and regulations apply???

[@Daniel-lk3sy]

And the other problem is with all that fake chrome paint is going to put a lot of extra particulars in the air because it's just going to keep flaking and everything else and I'll have to keep removing it and redoing it which will be very unhealthy worse than this chrome plating and stuff and leave it alone

[@Daniel-lk3sy]

Yeah and when they start actually doing that they'll find themselves without products being bought does people will go to where they can get what they want

[@rtt2634]

The surface of the steel rolls used in the production of steel plate are Crome plated to enable both the required product finish as well as the life of the rolls themselves So no Crome ,equals pore steel surface finish and greatly increased cost of producing the steel that we build every thing out of,

[@darrenteoh8753]

Keep in mind that a lot of hard chrome parts don't end up in the end consumer but it's in many machinery parts that make this world function well.

[@swskating3865]

We shouldn't care because fundamentally we should nor be affected by that lunacy , or was Brexit a pointless divisive exercise ?

[@JFirn86Q]

Besides the decorative use, the industrial use of chrome is really important. Super hard, very lubricious, very corrosion resistant. Not much else gives these benefits. There's a reason virtually ALL hydraulic cylinder rods are chrome plated. Machine ways are sometimes chrome plated, and on and on.

[@pammccracken7032]

Good Morning! Thank you for another informing video.

[@ruuman]

Nearly every hydraulic cylinder rod is hard chromed, that is nuts.

[@Idontwanttosignupist]

Stainless is not going to be a replacement because stainless steels also produce hex chrome when ground, welded or worked hot. OSHA is already going after it here in the US.

[@thedarkknight1971]

Ahhhhyes... Klaus, WEF and ALL THE OTHER unwanted, unelected, cough cough 😒 'Officials' spouting their bullsh!te to support their own means... 😒😒😒 😎🇬🇧

[@neuralwarp]

We should tighten vehicle standards, so the Euros are forced to comply with us.

[@laszloujvari2938]

The manufacture of lithium batteries on the other hand is totally green and completely eco-friendly. Let’s flood the world with those!

[@briancooper562]

Except for the fires in - cars, trucks, aircraft, boats, garage, homes, factories. etc.

[@deanwcampbell]

Polished stainless steel is an alternative.. it's actually better in most applications.

[@tmack1]

Back to nickel plating. And since Chrome plating is a 3 step process (Copper then nickel then chrome), the EU will get a partially processed part.

[@harveysmith100]

So what about all the chrome tools we use. Are they going to be banned?

[@Pompomgrenade]

She says the problem is the absence of compliance to DESPOTIC, central planning 😈

[@darrinmcneill534]

They haven’t got a clue

[@Aquila-sz8pl]

If chrome plating was ‘minimal impact, nota big issue’ then it would have disappeared years ago, as, even back then chrome plating was not cheap and for manufactures ‘another process’. So, the idea that it is not necessary is naive and misinformed. It is arguable that to dismiss and belittle the process and its valence is ‘MALINFORMATION AND MISINFORMATION’ peddled by the EU/WEF. Destroy your own country is their mantra.

[@jean-charlesgonguet1909]

Dear Stuart Thank you for this information. Look like we already can see the effect of this EU measure on the RE Shotgun . I thought it was just a deliberate aesthetic choice, but may be it was done in anticipation of this new rule to come.

[@Xsiondu]

Can you make stainless without hexavalent chromium? And if not what's the point of the ban

[@daimonmt]

The EU doesn't ban gold though, although it uses heavy chemicals to recycle and synthesise from rock. And sorry to burst your bubble but, stainless steel has around 10% Chromium in it depending on the type so that is also out of the question.

[@sidweazel2883]

Absolutely 100% correct, gold production is 4x more polluting than chrome. I think we should ban gold…..

[@nevillewatkins4997]

They just don't want us to have shiny things.

[@dzzzzbutube]

They don't want you to have things, full stop.

[@cardboardboxification]

they want you to be just as dull as them

[@pgtmr2713]

@@cardboardboxification OH no no no. THEY will still have nice things. Such as private jet aircraft that ferry them around the world at a great cost to the environment... that they care so much about. Immediate, ridiculous, hypocrisy, tells us all what it's really about.

[@freeforester1717]

Are guilloutines available with chrome moly blades? Asking for an old knitting gran…

[@matthewkonopka3012]

I came here for the comments. not disappointed

[@RobertRobert-d2r]

nickel plating a wrist watch case is the environment destroying equivalent of 475 diesel engines [the size of those used in massive container ships] operating 24/7 for 30 years. That must go too.

[@pgtmr2713]

Says who?

[@RobertRobert-d2r]

Me!@@pgtmr2713

[@OverlandTT]

Why?

[@grahamcrooks3581]

We've been using Chrome piston rings for the first compression ring since the fifties, because nothing else works as well. Is it only decorative chrome that's banned or what?

[@jessecooper6310]

How would something like DLC work as a replacment to chrome in bearings and suspension?

[@boosted242]

Hey! Great video! Nice to see the old severn bridge. Used to live 1 minute from it a few years ago! Be well!

[@davidn1562]

Another great video, getting off the chrome subject, one question. most of the vids on KZbin on the Kent cam for the 350cc No one shows how to install & time the clutch cover back on the engine, do you know of anyone that has done this?

[@keithhorsfield6290]

Several people have commented on the use of hard chrome on earth-moving and excavating equipment - the very equipment that mines the materials for the electric car batteries the powers are so keen on.

[@rationalityfirst]

They don't need excavating equipment, they use slave labor. That way they'll reduce even more carbon.

[@liveyourbestlife1513]

What are they going to do about hydraulic pistons that need chrome to work?

[@Dzeroed]

Thought we left the EU? Take it we don't make it in the UK?

[@68bonneville]

Thanks Stuart for this timely and informative video.