EU4 - What if Europa Universalis 4 Started in 867?

[@TheRedHawk]

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[@ashwindar]

Do 1066 please :) or rise of islam in the 600s (I think)

[@dreadvoice7285]

Do the Fall of Rome Timeline next

[@asterixs259]

The other ck3 start date

[@R0dolphus]

When "what would happen if eu4 started in 10000 BC"

[@thearea51raidwasboring]

For your Tier 2 Tribal Reform, you should take "Unga Bunga Caveman Privileges"

[@scsports7281]

@@thearea51raidwasboring I prefer curtail mammoth privileges

[@marcgdr7038]

Is there even a mod

[@leifkjnny5424]

Remember "Caveman to Cosmos", the Civ4 mod?

[@irmaosmatos4026]

Dinosaur cavalry and club warriors at tech 0.00004 is overpowered.

[@qwertystania]

The Extended Timeline mod has a system for Medieval kingdoms to split based on Gavelkind succession, which is probably why nations like Lorraine and Provence showed up.

[@DeLeonHD]

Sadly a lot of real nations don't spawn. I've attempted to create Castile and it never happens

[@maxwellentertainment914]

Kinda funny how Hungary has the cross in its crest when they aren't even chrisitan yet, but i guess the mod team has a lot of timelines to work on so these details aren't added in yet.

[@acey457]

it is the pagan cross of saint jâvid

[@Oskiinus]

it might also come from the limitations of country tags; if I remember correctly, 9th century Hungary uses the same country tag as a modern one, which would also explain Korea's flag

[@maxwellentertainment914]

Maybe they should add a decision for Hungary witch makes them change from nomadic people (to a principality and then) to a kingdom, also they are commonly referred to in this time period as the magyar tribe, but again, this is a lot of work to do for only 1 country and there are so many others to focus on...

[@Pigraider268]

@@maxwellentertainment914 It could be done. CK does it. Nomadic Hungarians are called "Magyars" (which ironically is "Hungarians" in hungarian xd)

[@feelingnether158]

As a crusader king player this cursed…. There is not even any incest.

[@johncohnor9655]

Just more blob but with the map in different colors and different time-line, I would like to see some empires collapse, but I reckon that would be a pain to code

[@umchen1192]

@Hunkulous damn, looking forward to play the mod

[@TheSuperhoden]

"What if every 'same development province' is it's own nation"

[@acey457]

unga bunga 1-1-1 collective will reign supreme

[@ghaliblaith9733]

He suold defintly do that

[@irmaosmatos4026]

@@acey457 1-1-1 should be uncolonized

[@3dbee47]

A world where all of the uncolonized land becomes a great power, pretty cool. And then immediately collapses due to governing capacity and stability

[@schizochlops]

Absolutley LOVE the content! Keep taking them W man

[@Stevonicus]

Cathars are a Catholic heresy that pop up in pretty much every game of CK

[@feelingnether158]

Always gotta fight these annoying revolts in the middle of an important war.

[@-Faris-]

Cathars are basically protestants before Martin Luther was born

[@whaleofdarkness]

@@-Faris- The Cathars differ much more from the Catholic church than Protestants. You weren't allowed to marry, have sex or have children. You weren't allowed to kill animals. The Old Testament was seen as the scripture of an evil god different from the god of the New Testament. But you're right they were alike to Protestants because they didn't preach in Latin and because they were repulsed by the excesses of the Catholic Church of their time.

[@poool6463]

19:37 you cant form romania if byz exists

[@Otterly_luna]

Cordoba expanding into France was like the battle of Tours 2.0 electric bugaloo

[@feelingnether158]

21:51 "whats cathar ?" Me a crusader king player who fought dozens of cathar revolt in my own kingdom. pain… its pain..

[@custos9209]

It's more pain for them though xD

[@feelingnether158]

@@custos9209 yeah i suppose but still ! How dare they trying to be free from my tyranny.

[@alexanderlipowsky6055]

@@feelingnether158 bastards...

[@kindadumb916]

East Francia is going to be a mess according to ck tradition

[@randyyy2609]

Another suggestion for a "What if": what if EU4 started a year earlier? When the Crusade of Varna hasn't happened yet, Wladyslaw was still king of Poland, Lithuania, Hungary AND Croatia. What would happen if he survived? Think of how Europe would look like if that happened!

[@sneediumminer]

meiou and taxes starts in 1356 which in my opinion is a better start date than 1444

[@Oddn7751]

I'm so sad you missed the HRE getting established by Germany. It's one of the coolest features in Extended Timeline and the AI never does it

[@combrade-t]

I could swear that Extended Timeline has a Mongol Empire to spawn, maybe that's only in the specific start date though.

[@Pigraider268]

"Lorraine" is just "Lotharingia" in French. It's funny that it's two different nations in game

[@cenarius555]

Transylvania could not crate Romania because Byzantium existed :D

[@patrikkalus5567]

Cathars are one of early Catholic heresies. In Panonia (today Hungary) that was not Hungarians at the start, but remnants of Avars steppe nomads .

[@pygmybisoncomtedebournon4207]

You should do one on the ck2 Charlemagne start date (769)

[@ticklezcat5191]

"CK3 start date" has CK2 religions instead of CK3.

[@moonshinei]

CK3 religions don’t import to EU4 as well as CK2’s do, which are already coded to transition in the game

[@Mrfox-YouTube]

Eu4 but every country has a core on every province

[@HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman]

I played tang in extended timeline and I got an event to became Xia, song, ming or stay Tang.

[@fyodorogustavus]

Me that play both eu4 and ck3: wow NICE video

[@kanishkbhardwaj9965]

are you planning on playing some crusader kings in the future? Idk about everyone else but that would be dope imo

[@kiwuuspurr1927]

agreed

[@sentinite]

Agreed!

[@feelingnether158]

I agree its a great game less war focused but i personally like it. You can basically gain lands without doing any war.

[@PAINNN666]

Ming rebelion replaced Yuan in late XIV century

[@grant2063]

What about the 1066 CK3 start but carry it on into EU4's timeline?

[@quartztemplar3676]

They're Hunyadi because many Khazars migrated with the Magyars

[@EmporerDragon]

What if idea: What if the New World nations started with max tech?

[@dodobirdhistorian5115]

Ming Dynasty ruled from 1368(roughly) to 1644 A.D.

[@Ratich]

Burgundy inherited lands in Lotharingia but Burgundy at this time is considered to be to the south of Lotharingia in the lands currently held by Italy.

[@DocMaestro]

Man so early and first few seconds got me interested lmao

[@iwatchDVDsonXbox360]

We still didn't got "Maratha empire in 1444", but they are trying. 👍

[@viniciusyugulis7278]

Transylvania couldn't form Romania because Byzantium exists

[@StalwartTirith]

Not going to lie, I don't really like the Extended Timeline mod. I mean, it's fun to see more timelines and that sort of thing, but this mod just doesn't handle it well, especially as the game progresses on.

[@alexanderlipowsky6055]

They do work on it though, you can for example form the hre, ai doesnt do it though

[@thetruecyrusplayz1256]

fun fact: ming formed in about the 1400s

[@Dylan-gc4he]

I have been trying to guess your accent for months, and i finally think i have an answer, are you finnish?

[@aggebojkalos6518]

Definitely not lol

[@acey457]

red hawk is native greenlandic

[@feelingnether158]

He is from the US.

[@12345678981010]

im actully surprised you dont know that romania cant be formed as long as byzantium is alive.........

[@juanmendez3290]

I can't wait for the rashiduns escenario timelapse

[@paulipynnonen9445]

Really good pronunciation of Suomenusko 👍

[@BooTleg_AristoCrat]

Oddly enough nation of ganga don't even own most of ganga river but they didn't start with the river so atleast they have some of ganga

[@CaspianNomad]

Would be cool to do a video like this but put random development on and see what weirdness and hell that unleashes

[@yusufk6712]

Hey Hawk, the Hazars actually were not jewish from the getgo but the turkic people moved there and If I remember correctly there were a jewish population and since they were surrounded by the most popular monotheist religions they did not want to embrace them because they would succumb to those nations so the jews invited them to their religions and they became jewish. Feel free to correct me this is just what I remember whilst I researched that timeline history some years back. Also that nation somehow disappeared all of a sudden and no one knows exactly why they did not get conquered

[@violet_silly9929]

rise of islam start date is a very fun one, ive played it quite a bit and it is extremely variable, at least with my lack of a lot of dlc, dont know how it interacts with all at once

[@jonhart4563]

Should be a dlc with ideas and missions.

[@Emanon...]

Germany seems to always dominate in these "what if" scenarios... Is Deutschland, in fact, uber alles?

[@copiusgrimus6671]

What if theodoaius never spilt the empire

[@АлександрВасильев-б9ь1в]

You never heard about cathars? You must search them out.

[@dani7372]

Anyone listen. Where was Redhawk when the Westfold fell. Top left corner of the starting creen

[@sigma_fil1529]

What? Orthodox in 867?

[@thomas3236]

24:07 Country: Song Dynasty: Han Hmmmm 🤔

[@Prany2]

Requesting 'what if' scenario where some small nations get massive tech boost. Again.

[@DaviSonata]

What if 1822 Brazil, a Catholic Monarchy, existed in 1444? (200th independence anniversary)

[@macasmosqueradavid6046]

What if the Imperio Español existed in 1444

[@kevinkk3092]

I would like to see germany and the abbasids clash

[@xandyreoch8d874]

Love these videos :D

[@historydude6022]

What would have happened if eu4 started in 600. It would be fun to see the Byzantine at there near peak and see if they can retake France from the lombards and if they can survive the arabs

[@kojbo]

isnt their peak 117 AD?

[@historydude6022]

@@kojbo That is the Roman Empire’s peak

[@classiclife7204]

@@historydude6022 The only correct answer.

[@davidkacmar6522]

Great video enjoying it a lot, hope the beloozero is gonna rise soon :D seeing how hard it is, you must form Russia and expand to make Soviet union great again :D

[@MuppetLord1]

Really wish Byz were better at getting decent allies, wonder if they hardcoded AI byz to not seek friends. xD

[@denniswilkerson5536]

Catholic Germany isn’t real, it can’t hurt you. Catholic Germany:

[@NotAHamster]

What if yugoslavia existed in 1444?

[@huginmunin8253]

khazars where jewish or turkic-jewish to be more precise i belive. And if im not mistaken some went to either Latvia or lithuania later on and lived there and still does with some different culture compared to other jewish and turkic people, but as I said im not sure it was khazars that went there

[@faust8473]

"Что если Османская империя - это Ludi et Historia"

[@ohNojames]

Where are the Rurikid’s? They moved into Russia around 867 they are in CK timeline? Edit Oh I seen them

[@rhodrison]

Strathclyde should be welsh culture imo

[@GusThePrankster]

Uh, The Red Hawk, I have a suggestion for you. Once you get to Desmond (the strongest Irish nation, btw), create a potato union. How do you do that? Simple. Conquer Ireland, Idaho, the Baltics, and Peru (the birthplace of potatoes). Okay maybe not _that_ simple but it's an idea anyway!

[@arabian7645]

Do what if all major powers were deleted?

[@rasmusb.3551]

Great video, I would love it, if you would show the development of the provinces at the start of the time-lapse

[@bunnygamer4394]

This is definitely Not CK3 map

[@countrygameskid2100]

You should do Cold War start

[@isimiel3405]

some rando will become a great power

[@bhuvan.s153]

Norse prussia kinda cursed

[@salamipitza]

do what if Britain is connected to mainland europe

[@MPrae]

you can really have Catholics and orthodox prior to 1054 rather Christians, Muslims, Jewish etc

[@husted5488]

This mod is so historically inaccurate. Denmark wasn't united, and Germanic and Norse are the same religion.

[@gazamidori2866]

Xia is prolly pronounced similar to zha or sha

[@semyonmorozov849]

Catholics in 867?

[@jpanda79]

Crusader kings is the best

[@arabian7645]

Can u turn colonization on ?

[@violet_silly9929]

also, a lot of the nations popping in where larger ones were is due to government type, the salich monarchy splits the nation for each heir to have land once the ruler dies edit fix: each male heir*

[@HalukOgeturk]

fun fact khazaria is turks but jewish turks :D

[@arabian7645]

Do rise of islam

[@kiwuuspurr1927]

ya

[@Ponanoix]

NIce!!!!!!!!!!1111oneeleven

[@aluminiumknight4038]

japan going full ww2

[@aluminiumknight4038]

how many times did he abuse the word "vikings"?

[@arabian7645]

Do what if europe was colonized Delete all European countries

[@matheusadriel4177]

Should be all catholic, orthodox only born in 1054

[@heisenstein6392]

Wait... so the AI can form Germany 1000 yrs early but Cordoba can't form Andalusia? That's some bullshit, if they formed Andalusia, they would've curb-stomped the French/Burgundian tags. Good to see Salah ad-Din's empire going so strong though, he's an absolute legend 🙌

[@alexandervolkov97]

Ukrainian and belorussian culture in 867. peepoClown