EU4 A to Z - Forming The REAL USA Is INSANE As Cherokee

[@TheRedHawk]

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[@abdulhakimazhari9894]

Even better, form Japan as Cebu

[@hs5312]

Form the Philippines and then invade and occupy all Japan

[@loganszymanski5279]

Do the first two part A-Z series and do the Phillipine Tiger achievement.

[@niluscvp]

upgrade the monument of Chichen Izta I mean Chika Isaw to level 3.

[@gijskramer1702]

Form cuba as cebu

[@sansparshsingh5154]

Ah yes...here we are with season Americas...where the whole season is based in the new world and is full of pain for hawk and full of entertainment of us😅🤣

[@Sam-hb6xo]

@@TheRedHawk but soon you will be able to play in Europe much

[@derekskelton4187]

A fun idea might be to head to Asia or the Pacific Islands. Just to keep things interesting. Fighting people you wouldn't normally fight or forming nations you wouldn't usually be able to form is always fun

[@jpthehistorian]

Still waiting for the skipped Cebu episode

[@jpthehistorian]

Still waiting for the skipped Cebu episode

[@dexterwilliams2520]

Actual Cherokee native on my mom's side here. This is a really fun video on what could've been and I’m really glad you enjoyed yourself with it. P.S. The flipping between two leaders, I think it's what’s supposed to happen, as historically we had two chiefs, the White Chief for peace time and the Red Chief when we went to war.

[@2Links]

That's actually pretty interesting!

[@Muck006]

"What could have been" is an illusion and I am getting scared by people actually starting to believe that "this COULD HAVE BEEN", because the gameplay isnt reality. The whole technological advancement wasnt going to happen before natives had contact with europeans ... and even then "nothing much changed", which is the reason why the natives suffered as much as they did. The game developers SADLY "change history for BALANCE" ... to make it possible for "primitives" to have a chance against the technologically advanced europeans, but they dont acknowledge that for SCIENCE you need to ABANDON EMOTION / RELIGION ... to allow CRITICISM OF "WHAT WE KNOW IS TRUE" and LOGIC/REASONING to develop scientific principles. This only happened in Europe ... starting with Galileo Galilei and Martin Luther ... and the ENLIGHTENMENT (which basically ended the political and social power of "the church").

[@dexterwilliams2520]

@@Muck006 Okay, you need to relax. It was just a joke.

[@Barista.Nathan]

@@Muck006 Well, looks like natural selection missed one.

[@kambar1647]

@@Muck006 Primitives? In my cycle, primitives would wrote comments so cringy and unnecessary that half the Empire would laugh their Prothean bottoms off. Oh, I see they still do.

[@crocworks]

Chikasaw. Chick + Saw. Chicks are just Livestock, and Saws are used to cut trees, so Naval Supplies. As Chikasaw, conquer provinces such that you hold an equal number of Livestock and Naval Supplies provinces and achieve the trading in bonus for both good. But those trade goods aren't particularly valuable, so I imagine a bankruptcy would be in the future. Bad investments and all...

[@grandaltis]

this sounds so painful but we need him to do this for our collective masochism

[@josephcola9662]

7:48 For reasons I can't quite understand, natives have two humiliate CBs. 90% sure one of them lets you take land. 1 is the standard humiliation war, and the other is available for anyone you border. It's really strong, because you can use it on significantly weaker neighbors to farm show strength peace deals to generate 100s of monarch points. In turn, you can use that to tech up or core more unclaimed land as your tribal lands.

[@Nobody-jx6xc]

Cherokee is honestly one of the better natives to play as

[@Muck006]

I still would love to know how that "border gore federation" happened ...

[@grayfox6930]

@@Muck006 they probably started bordering each other to leach off the institutions spawning from the Cherokee. Whether they formed by conquest or other means I do not know.

[@AllenorLP]

@@Muck006 That's what happens when the AI goes the federation development to the end. It unites all tribes in it and settles their tribal land. Because tribes dont really care about bordergore in the migratory phase, much less multiple tribes, it looks like this.

[@snake5070]

you know you can get all the intuitions if you do the tier 4 native reform trade with the Europeans or something

[@snake5070]

this is also how you can reform directly into a monarchy

[@TheRedHawk]

Yepp

[@aluminiumknight4038]

Yeah but that's cringe

[@cebulak6695]

The best thing you can do is to reform the native confederation. You get new ideas (not always) and your country will have the name of your confederation

[@BIGPIZZABOI]

Natives do have comets but if you're playing as Aztec they have an option that gives +stab and -doom

[@TimeToBeatFeet]

Indigenous ideas are super powerful. Give them a look over as Chickasaw.

[@jacklovejoy5290]

The Chickasaw are believed to have originated in the West of the Americas, so I think it's only right if Chickasaw formed Mega Chile and snaked from Patagonia to the tip of Alaska

[@Gustoberg]

pain.

[@birdofterror6628]

Super Ultra Mega Chile

[@michaelbrum1]

Love the series watch every episode! Keep it up!!

[@TheRedHawk]

Thank you for the support!

[@Super_Gman_Guy]

Hey Red Hawk, I have an insane challenge for you for when you get to the nation of Tonga in 20 years. Tonga has unique ideas, and some very strong diplomatic modifiers, like +2 Diplo Rep. So what if you somehow tried to become the Holy Tongan Emperor?

[@jabloko992]

See you in 4 years when he gets there :D

[@johnmcmanus2447]

When I was playing with Extended Timeline mod, the way I took territory was to declare on the ally of someone you border so your real target gets called in. Beat up your real target, then peace out with them first and take their provinces. Hope that helps

[@YorkshireSpud]

Always good to watch the EU4 native expert show me how to beat the 100K federations

[@Obloms]

Wait, I thought you would actually become USA as Cherokee. Now, that would have been truly cursed.

[@AllenorLP]

Federation Power level is determined by the Maximum Manpower, so you can get stronger than your Federation members by building the Manpower building.

[@R0dolphus]

ah, sweet land o'liberty!

[@AlphaZoa5]

Getting a national manpower advisor always stops the federation member from being stronger. None of the other advisors do for some reason.

[@davidwilliams7552]

Because strength is measured based on max manpower.

[@AlphaZoa5]

@@davidwilliams7552 Ah, that makes sense considering your neighbors probably all have the same base manpower. Thanks!

[@__-yu8vi]

Not always, on very hard they will still have more. But you can become stronger than others on hard by bulding the great trail and doing the enlistment edict (natives can't see edicts in state view, but you can still pass it through edicts interface)

[@migukmoonpark4312]

As Cebu, join the HRE and become Emperor. Secondary Objective: Become Catholic Defender of the Faith and/or have a Habsburg on your throne. Context: Modern-day Cebu City has a festival called the Sinulog Festival, which celebrates the local people's convertion to Catholicism. The logo of this festival is the Two-headed eagle of the House of Habsburg inside a Native Shield. The emblem represented the twin purpose of the Habsburg dynasty, the ruling dynasty of Spain then, as "Champion of Catholicism and Defender of the Faith." and the Native Shield represends, uh, the native people.

[@YuzuruHakushaku]

follow the trail of Aztec for they came to Mexico from near lands of Chiksaw probably so Chiksaw remember that and follow them to found and conquer Mexico

[@BSideWasTaken]

20:00 Hawk I think what happened is that because when a federation passes their final reform they absorb all tribal land belonging to their members, and I'm guessing you just hadn't finished coring so their absorbing of tribal land meant they got it.. really weird but hey

[@cyberm1037]

that cant be true because it wasnt a core of any of the members, unless you dont need a core on the land for that to happen?

[@BSideWasTaken]

@@cyberm1037 I guess the question is is tribal land counted as core?

[@carloscontreras1071]

Can you show europe at the end of your campaigns when you play outside of europe?

[@TheRedHawk]

If I discover it before the end, sure

[@carloscontreras1071]

@@TheRedHawk Thank you!

[@Muck006]

@@TheRedHawk Map sharing?

[@TheRusty]

I woulda liked to have seen whatever rachet state Europe was in. My guess, based on the size of Austria and the slow colonization, is that Castile PU'd Portugal after Portugal unlocked Exploration, and also allied Austria. Austria went nuts and kept calling Castile into central European and French wars, resulting in Castile / Portugal never having the resources to really colonize.

[@mateuszwesoowski9583]

Indigenous ideas op. Should always go indigenous if possible, the idea group stays after reform. Plus great policies with devcost and morale.

[@Blackbear147]

Starting settled down sucks cause you have to wait for people to neighbor you and you have to settle land that you get "claims" on

[@alexjar3144]

"The french? Kinda weird..." Not when you know that Jacques Cartier was the first to go in North America, founding Canada (on the Saint-Laurent), and was the first to settle on Manhattan (Naming it la Nouvelle-Angoulème) Signed a french person xp

[@rjs69]

Lief Erikson takes your jacques and gives him a 500 year older boot in the ass.

[@skinnybones4698]

Me coming out to lunch break for work: :( Me seeing a new Red Hawk vid is out: :)

[@TheRedHawk]

Have a nice lunch break!

[@alatamore]

I was waiting for this one. They can be a powerhouse but it’s not as easy as it might seem.

[@Nobody-jx6xc]

Also the indigenous govt idea is amazing

[@__-yu8vi]

Ok. One thing about these large native nations. You can prevent condotieri from sieging everything if you keep an extra stack of infantry in your land. Don't fight them, just chase them away before they start carpet sieging. It saves all of the manpower.

[@mr.admr1016]

Hey, how would you feel about sharing these save files? Some of these a-z playthroughs feel like they would be fun to continue

[@grayfox6930]

This 👆

[@cinnanyan]

I think they're available for discord members

[@DaGaJbmKojJe]

Is there a way to see what europe looks like, really curious about the possibly huge austria

[@TheRedHawk]

Not if I don’t discover it unfortunately

[@taylorthompson2067]

Enjoyed that Mitchell and Webb "are we the baddies?" reference

[@tadman105]

Might be fun to do something like Pass the Chickpeas: As Chicksaw conquer either all (or however much you can) of India or of Anatolia. India produces like 70% of all global Chickpea production, and Chickpeas are believed to have originated from Turkey

[@thearea51raidwasboring]

15:27 "Strengthen Noble Privileges"

[@slaviansky]

As Chickasaw you can try migrate to Europe and "blend in": embrace Christianity, convert to a monarchy/Republic and try to get into the HRE. This sounds "fun"

[@Queen_Serafina]

Anticipating Strengthen Noble Privileges even though I know nothing about playing eu4 lol

[@TheRedHawk]

Hell yeah

[@scaldabagnoblu384]

It's a good day when ,after studying, there is a new A to Z video

[@__-yu8vi]

Chickasaw is already settled. Unlike Cherokee, they can pass the last federation reform, which switches them to absurdly powerful generic Federation ideas (-4 national unrest, -10% core creation cost AND dev cost, +20% manpower, +30 settlers). I suggest forming a federation and annexing all of Peru before Spain gets there.

[@VenisDamalo]

Those last guys you fought, Wenro, is where I live. They're not around anymore as far as I know. I think the Haudenosaunee took them out.

[@Prany2]

Still waiting for conquest of Philippines as Cebu. Without transports.

[@TheRedHawk]

Soon

[@Prany2]

@@jakobinobles3263 Colonize and hire soldiers/mercs for every island. Naval supremacy for crossings.

[@fantastic_joe]

How the hell were you able to declare all the wars on natives without 5+ federation allies?

[@GothBoiCliiqz]

there’s LOOOOOTS OF Cs I think caddo doesn’t have them but I believe Comanche does, there’s sooo many Unique ideas in the US, just be glad they don’t all have them, I know there’s a couple Mayan nations with unique ideas and their name start with Cs Poor Redhawk is playing Sim City this season.

[@electricVGC]

I always love seeing you do native runs

[@bobbobinson6209]

To bad theres only 153 more to go!

[@aldbgbnkladg]

This "Strengthen noble privileges" thing should become an animated meme, just saying...

[@actualiygod6782]

BTW at 13:00 you should not state anything shortly before you wanna embrace institutions because the cost of embracing it increases with every stated province you have

[@DoRhado47]

You have teleported some explorers so you can see only Eastern Europe and Asia, big technology advancement in the future with the Satellites from US, man

[@TheMattastic]

Oh man, I had no idea natives could become hordes. I tried and failed at forming an indigenous Australian monarchy recently because I had no idea how to do it. I'm definitely going to take some lessons from this to apply there. Will it be enough to survive Europeans? Probably not, but worth a try!

[@mtiger1086]

if you have no idea of an interesting objective for very similar nation, do not hesitate to skip them

[@Muck006]

There is also the option of creating a few "tables of random options" ... kinda like a mix between the goals you draw in a game of RISK and the random encounter tables from D&D.

[@cristianradu8443]

Nice vid, keep up the good work

[@17Domy97]

Maybe, after all of this native nations, a relaxing "Cebu into Hawaii" campaign its what you need

[@oxjmanxo]

You really should play the federation game more. You can really grow it quite large and the final reform annexes everyone for no cost. Once the colonizers come your federation cohesion increases super rapidly. Once you do the last reform you can join another federation, take it over by being the strongest, then federate a second time.

[@Megas_Alexandros]

Have you done creeks before? They kicked my ass as venice in Florida, now they're in a coalition with France and Russia and i can't get my Florida back xD

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

19:28 EU4 North America moment

[@wouldntyouliketoknowdeli7640]

I think you should be able to form America as a Native tag by first reforming into a Horde and then a Monarchy or Republic in order to switch to Nomad and then Chinese tech group.

[@the_niss]

No tribal ideas, pain.

[@noahjohnson935]

if you play as the Creek conquer the Mississippi and Southeast regions to revive the Mississippi civilization

[@kesorangutan6170]

Pro tip: it's been a long time since I played this game(i don't play since v1.29) but as far as i know, many rulers in the Americas are randomly generated. This means you have a chance to get a good ruler by restarting the game. Don't be like Hawk and start with a terrible ruler :D

[@Scitch87]

Ah yes my bidiurnal dose of TheRedHawks *PAIN*.

[@yuuta6563]

Seemed like a nice little campaign.

[@jumpkidman8113]

im actually really excited for the chinook episode

[@eddy4505]

Love it! Will you try random tag switch mod în the future?

[@_Nohan_]

You should've gone into observer mode at the end to show us Europe.

[@ASTMVN]

I once played a game where the Cherokee formed the USA entirely on their own, ai controlled.

[@PrincessEowynn]

I’m convinced now Hawk is either gonna gaslight himself to the point where he loves playing in America or is just gonna end the series by the end of season C

[@Muck006]

He could also end up NEVER EVER GOING TO AMERICA in any future game.

[@xenox-cq9pb]

Some uga booga guys: ooga booga, ja ja me like that fancy cross Hawk: lh so you are reformed

[@angrygopnik2317]

Pretty chill campaign. I like.

[@spudzzy0373]

No internet? sounds like this was recored around the time you did the karaoke with Laith

[@TheRedHawk]

Yeah it was the next day

[@ok-lq6tv]

Wait what is that about?

[@spudzzy0373]

@@ok-lq6tv The Social Streamers did a Twitch "controls" the stream but it turned into a karaoke night and Redhawk joined. it was truly a great experience

[@spudzzy0373]

@@TheRedHawk i know my lore 😎

[@arcamean785]

In order to avoid burn out I think you should consider a-z except you go A,B,C,D and so forth unless that just adds confusion of course, also a shame you didn't have the option to form the United States, might require a tag switch IDK but when you can one goal NEEDS to be to own all current borders... Alaska and Hawaii not counted lol.

[@KrillixKai]

Almost Chickasaw time, I'm so excited. Shout out from here in Alabama.

[@soumajitsen1395]

Definitely the alternate timeline I would like

[@Jamie-st6of]

when a federation united into one country, their flag is randomized

[@EmperorOfAjvar]

Love how all of them are just "these guys"

[@n0ah711]

Are we the baddies? YES

[@dylanclark2037]

Do you have Spectrum? My internet was out today as well and it’s been really spotty lately

[@Iymarra]

Man, I always seem to get hard scuffed by bad federations / lack of willing federation partners when I try native americans (Wichita) and try to focus on dev.

[@BSideWasTaken]

I personally prefer to remain a tribe until the colonisers show up so I can keep the native tech group by jumping straight over to a republic/monarchy, republics are fun because of the mana points that make dev-ing up a lot easier for tthose institutions

[@gabrielbernier1047]

Another banger, as usual

[@TheRedHawk]

Thanks!

[@madhavsharma4896]

hey hawk quick question why not reform into a Monarchy without becoming a horde? what happens if you do that

[@BobBlevin]

You just turn into a monarchy, which is more optimal tbh i think he picks hordes for the meme

[@GhostKiller755]

you cant reform into a monarchy without feudalism. You can't get feudalism by deving since natives cant dev institutions. By going horde first you can skip getting feudalism.

[@woofpotato1234]

Possibly because he gets the horde superiority CB that mitigates the need for a spy network allowing him to expand a bit faster

[@BobBlevin]

@@woofpotato1234 i looked into it, he has to turn into a horde before turning into a monarchy because he can't pick the monarchy option at first

[@jpthehistorian]

Still waiting for the 'skipped' Cebu episode

[@froggerpirate]

Does the random new world thingy still work could change mix your next native game up a bit maybe more pain I know you like that

[@OddlySpecificGaming]

Imagine if this was actual history, ah yes that 10 years we were a nomadic horde

[@stygn]

If you have the monarch power to dev to feudalism right away, then don't state your other territories. Dev it up, embrace, then state. It'll save you a few bucks since you pay for every dev in your stated provinces that hasn't embraced it, but if none of your other territories are states, they don't count! Rarely useful, but this is one of those rare cases.

[@albertdower1078]

He’s gone from pressing c and accidentally declaring wars to pressing c and accidentally white peacing wars 😂

[@gamerx112]

How do you not get burnt out? I can't even bring myself to play eu4 anymore.

[@SketchyHippopotamus]

I think every native country should include defeating a colonizer in the goals :))

[@snake5070]

as england form america

[@TheRedHawk]

Bruuuh

[@teathesilkwing7616]

No, form France. And as France form england

[@Trollami]

From Chicksaw to Warsaw.

[@andrewgreenwood9068]

I wish you could still dev institutions with a settled tribe

[@jackbradley4737]

As Native American nations you can migrate to a province that isn’t your tribal land and add it to your tribal land for 200 admin points

[@georgb710]

What tech group are you if your reform this way? Wiki says you get chinese tech group if you are not christian/muslim, but that would be super weird.

[@albionjogos]

Day 3 asking Red Hawk to make a Granada Guide for 1.33. love you man!

[@felixcroc]

14:19 - I once got a comet as Cherokee on November 12, 1444. Seriously.

[@felixcroc]

Also for Chickasaw: Conquer Vietnam, since that's where the CHICKen came from.

[@DEFCONINFINITY]

I know you said you were tired of doing natives but I think it would be cool if you tried becoming holy roman emperor as a native nation.

[@faust8473]

Bro plz make company where you will capture only coastline provinces

[@corvus1374]

As Chickasa, form a Central American nation.

[@MuppetLord1]

They should have been called "The snake federation" instead of the Isleta federation. :O

[@OddlySpecificGaming]

Can you migrate the whole coast and stop colonisers dead?

[@Brakiros]

I want to see you play Cusco, Spain is broken right now they're the only ones who really colonize so even if you own a huge empire Spain is always going to beat you. My last game as Byzantium Spain had 3860 dev because they owned nearly two entire continents

[@viniciusyugulis7278]

Better to prevent them from forming by no-cbing Granada and force vassalizing