Eureka Mignon Disambiguation! - Specialita vs. Perfetto vs. Silenzio vs. Turbo vs. Zero and more!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

What are the differences in the Eureka Mignon line? In this video, we talk about the differences and similarities between all these grinders, including silent treatment, display, timers, burr size, motor power, baffles, and more! Which one did you choose, and why?

[@territrawitzki5245]

Damn, this dude is BRILLIANT AND TEACHES MANY THINGS. I bet he is some kind of a “long term” Engineer-- that he is SO KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT MANY THINGS & teaches well👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thank you so much, for such kind words, Terri! I just wanted to show what the differences are, since they all look quite similar, and it is a little confusing. Thanks for watching! 🤗 🙋🏼‍♂️

[@arkotk]

Thank you for this extensive review about the Eureka Mignon models. I bought the Moccamaster KM5 grinder. It seems to have the motor and specs of the Mignon Filtro. Probably not the silent version, but okay. It fits my Moccamaster KBG coffee machine. Maybe you can review this grinder too?

[@jazzynotjeff]

I got the Mignon Filtro which is supposed to only be for filter coffee, but works really really well for espresso as well with the same stepless adjustment and 50mm burrs. There is a lot of evidence that the Chrono and the Filtro are both more than capable of handling espresso grinding and at a price of $240 and $200 respectively. Highly recommend. Note: I think the Filtro and Manuale are the same grinder for different markets, but I could be wrong.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Very nice, Joseph! I might get a Filtro to try as a second grinder then. Or rather a Filtro silent, because that silent technology is great. I can go without a timer for a big money savings. Cheers!

[@jazzynotjeff]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner There's a simple switch mod that I'd recommend since it ships with a button that you have to hold down for operation, but it's like $5 on Amazon and 5 min of time and works great. Check Reddit. Love your channel, thanks!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@jazzynotjeff Hey Joseph, thanks for that idea. I searched a little but I did not find the switch you mean. Do you have a link? Does the switch fit perfectly inside the casing?

[@kitcraft9516]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Tom, did you ever get a chance to try out the filtro? And if so, its performance with espresso? There is only one video, that I can find on youtube, where someone uses the filter specific brews for espresso and it's all talk and no demonstration. However, there are more than a few threads on reddit where people talk about using this and the crono for espresso both with the filtro burrs and the espresso burrs. It seems to me that this grinder is slept on if it works well for espresso at its price point. Regardless of whether you have to change out the burrs for $33 or not.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@kitcraft9516 Hey that's a good question. I will maybe have the chance soon to buy a Filtro Silent and give it a test. I will see what I can do. Cheers!

[@____wolli_____2163]

Ich glaube werde mir die Spezialita holen. Tolles Video

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Guter Wahl, Wolli! Ich finde die Mühle toll, und in der EU auch sehr preiswert. Gruß!

[@upscalebohemian5372]

I started with the Filtro for the past two years and I really like it, but I still wouldn't recommend it. The reason for that is I use it for a Moccamaster for the most part, and to get the grind just about how I need it I am practically having to turn the adjustment knob until it's loose on top, which means if I wanted to go coarser for French press or something, it wouldn't do that. Same thing with the Crono, I suspect, since it's essentially the same grinder with a rudimentary timer added. With the Brew Pro that I just upgraded to, that grinds the coffee a bit fluffier, and I strongly recommend making a batch at various grind settings because they can be quite different. If it's too harsh, grind it coarser and keep adjusting. At one setting the same coffee I've brewed for years suddenly really has a chocolate kind of character. The Filtro has been excellent for my needs, which are mostly the Moccamaster and pour over for the last two years, but it should also be able to do French press, and it simply can't go that coarse, at least on my particular grinder.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks for postnig your experience! I can confirm that since the adjustment wheel is screwed onto the adjustment post, unscrewing it too far will eventually loosen the knob itself. Glad you're liking the new Brew Pro. Cheers!

[@oliviainsd2103]

Question . . . What is the best single dosing burr grinder that allows a person to use a portafilter with a funnel? I liked the Libra, but there seems to be issues with getting error messages using a portafilter and it is not the best for single dosing. My daughter and I like different "low acid" coffee beans.

[@todwardtk]

Great Video! Thanks for your efforts!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Glad you enjoyed it! 👍

[@jakevan1969]

Thanks. Very helpful!

[@Chelko88]

Great video! It would be nice to see a similar video with the Eureka Oro line

[@danjv]

Hi Tom, thanks for this. I am eagerly awaiting delivery of my Mignon Facile. Got it from WLL discounted $50 down from $399. Cannot wait to pair it up with my GCP.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Sounds like a plan! I think you'll like it!

[@CobusGreyling]

Hey there friend, I'm planning this exact combo. How's your experience been last 6 months?

[@danjv]

Hey, I couldn't be happier with the Facile. Steppless and much quieter than my previous grinder. Built like a tank and paired up with another Italian icon, bliss.

[@CobusGreyling]

@@danjv thanks so much! Here's to many more great cups!

[@oliviainsd2103]

Tom do you have video on single dosing espresso grinder with a portafilter?

[@Robin77436]

Hi there, thank you so much Tom for this mostly useful review!!! One characteristic you don't mention about all these models, is wether the fork that support the portafilter is adjustable or not. I just read a catalog from Eureka. According to this catalog, the following models have a so called adjustable Hands-free fork: - Specialita - Turbo - Design - Zero - Zero Brew And the following models do not have an adjustable Hands-free fork: - Silenzio - Perfetto - Manuale - Classico - Bravo Finally, these models don't seem to have any fork at all: - Filtro - Crono - Filtro Silent - Brew Pro I don't know about Oro or Stark models. Since I'm about to get a Dedica Arte coffee machine, it's best for me to have an adjustable fork, is it? What would you say? Anyway, thanks again for all these details and differences!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks for that thorough list! I only use bottomless, so they all fit fine on the forks. The OEM Delonghi might be too deep...

[@aGabay]

Would you suggest the Specialita for a Dedica owner? I feel it is a bit overkill but looking ahead it can be a good match for a higher end espresso machine. The other cheaper grinders I can find in my region seem plasticy and not that robust.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, just get the Specialita. You will get the best out of the Dedica, and you will be set for later, too. Buy once, cry once. The Specialita is a beautiful, robust, quiet, capable grinder. It's the best damn grinder I know in it's price range, by a lot.

[@aGabay]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner great! Thanks a lot for the extremely quick response! It's a bit out of my price range but I hate to buy "half of the way" products.

[@virtuoso666]

Hi Tom, will the Manuale/Specialita be good for Delonghi Dedica? Or the powder will be too fine it won't extract?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Oh sure, that is a perfect Grinder for the Dedica, and you can use it with other machines as well, if you upgrade your espresso machine in the future.

[@garnettbrown]

The turbo is approximately $500usd plus another $40 for the voltage conversion plug when purchased online from overseas sellers. This mignon is THE best value deal of the mignon line.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Do you mean the turbo is the best value?

[@garnettbrown]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yes

[@dingnextstop]

Hi Tom, I have the Manuala which I bought about 3 months ago and I love it! I wasn’t bothered about displays or timers, I would say the adjust is “very critical” between different Beans, even 1 or 2 mm can make a heck of a difference in the final result, I have a homemade single dose bellows made from a silicone collapsible drinks cup which works fine giving me hardly any retention, so I would thoroughly recommend it as a solid well made grinder without all the bells and whistles..👍🏻 Andrew

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks for sharing, Andrew! This seems to be the best value in the lineup. How is the noise on the Manuale though? I found the MCi pretty whiny, so I wonder how the Manuale is...

[@dingnextstop]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner it’s fine Tom, I’m really not that fussed as long as the grind is consistent which it is, I binned my MC2 due to Quality of build and plastic Burrs…👍🏻

[@marc6652]

The main issue with the Eureka Mignon is the settings. How can a so popular brand makes an adjustment system where you can't know how many turns you did without changing anything for years ? Impossible to change from expresso to V60 or Moka easily. That's a deal breaker for me.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Hi Marc, I suppose you’re right there. I primarily do espresso, so no problem for me, but I can understand what you mean. Which one do you prefer instead?

[@marc6652]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner I seriously look at the Fiorenzato Allground. Cleaning and settings are so simple !

[@NoZenith]

Have you checked out the Perfetto?

[@YSCDIY]

Hi, Do these all made in Italy?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@YSCDIY Yes!

[@Nhope_Music]

Hi Tom! Thanks for this review, so 55mm is better than 50mm for grinding coffee for espresso, right? I found a good version of Perfetto at a good price but am looking for an answer. I like to drink espresso and moka but can't decide whether to spend more to get a good espresso grinder or go for a more versatile machine.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

In my opinion the 55mm is just a little faster. I wouldn't say better.

[@Nhope_Music]

thank you@@TomsCoffeeCorner! So I can make a good espresso even if I use the mignon Perfetto?

[@chetetv5262]

Hey Tom, what do you think about: Getting a Filtro and replacing the burrs with espresso ones. That would make it essentially a Manuale for like 70-100 euros cheaper? Am I missing something?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

That would be a sweet idea! Just make sure to get burrs that fit. They both use 50mm, so you should be good to go. Let me know how it works out!

[@lenso010]

nobody talks about if perfetto has fine tuning for espresso or not?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, it is very similar to the Specialita, so I am guessing that it can be dialed in well for espresso as well.

[@NoZenith]

I believe I've watched every available KZbin review and several blogger posts and reddit threads and nobody complains about being able to dial it in. It is however commented that it's just such a tiny tiny movement. I very much like the idea of being able to spin a dial a couple times and know exactly where to go back to, but as I understand it, dialing it back in is a little less handy when you go to the extremes (French press back to espresso for example) because you have less margin of error (if you remember the number of turns you made and the number you need to be near) but I don't think that's any more difficult than trying to remember how many times I've turned the dial on a specialita to get back to the precise espresso setting 🤷‍♂️

[@nikolasmoseskaplan3805]

Hi here Tom! Would you recommend the eureka Manuale/ Classico or even Silenzio for the duo temp pro sage machine? Which one will fit the best? To get the best out of this machine? I think the specialitá it’s kinda out of my budget for now..! Will the DF54 Miicoffee grinder machine be even better that the previous eurekas that I Wrote? I only think about one thing, quality before anything... and that’s Eureka I guess

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

All of those in the Mignon line will be great. Choose the one that fits your budget, because motor size and burr geometry will be the same. The DF54 I think will be about on par with these as well. Cheers!

[@nikolasmoseskaplan3805]

@@TomsCoffeeCornerthank you Tom! You’re the best. Thank you for taking your time ❤

[@back_to_the_bike8820]

Cool, thanks. In your opinion, and taking into account that the speed is not important for me, is the result in cup really better with 65mm burrs rather than 55mm burrs?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

That is a good question. I am not sure I would notice a difference. I think anyway that the grinder alignment would play a larger role there. Cheers!

[@back_to_the_bike8820]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Oops, there was already an answer here to a question I asked in another video. Sorry about that.

[@aligossas9431]

Thanks for your efforts TOM Please I find a brand new mignon chrono for 199 EURO is it a good deal ?? Or a Silenzio used to 200 euro Is it good enough for espresso btw am using delonghi dedica thanks for your answer 🙏🏻

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Oh that's a tough one. The Silenzio comes with espresso burrs, and has the nice silent treatment. I'd go for that one, if it was my choice. Cheers!

[@lmankj]

Which one delivers the most delightful grinds?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Haha, they're all delightful. Most use the same 55mm burrs. Some use 50mm. But they all have the declumpers, which work great in my experience, and also these grinders provide great consistency.

[@lmankj]

Delightful, after watching way too many product reviews, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on the ORO@@TomsCoffeeCorner

[@abc-cl3rb]

can you fit bigger burrs into a eureka mignon manuale for example as an upgrade?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Good question - I haven't tried that.

[@janala69]

Is the Perfetto easier to dial in with because of the different knob?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I wouldn't say so. It's similarly small like most of the range. Cheers!

[@ziyaaykut3041]

Which one do you prefer specilatta or Perfetto? Burrs 50 or 55mm makes any difference?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I like the Specialita better. 55mm is better than 50mm, for speed anyway. Otherwise, they are pretty similar.

[@nocose4999]

if you had to pick: would you choose this the specialita or the 1zspresso?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Specialita!

[@Murat1982turkey]

Hello, Nuova Simonelli Mdxs On demand, eureka zenith 65, eureka atom 65 or Nuova Simonelli mdx? Small boutique coffee shop. For espresso only. 5 or 10 tables. Beautiful coffee bean. Which one is better? They are about the same price in my country. But I couldn't choose. What do you think?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Hmm, the MDXS looks like a copy of the Zenith 65. I wonder if it is the same grinder, licensed to Simonelli. Of those. I would choose the Atom for aesthetics. They will all do a good job at grinding. But they are also all a bit louder. I would suggest a Specialita or Turbo.

[@Brave_Lion]

Hello! Is Zero quieter than Filtro? Can the filter work safely with an inclination of 15 degrees?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Hello! It is quieter, because it has the "Silent Technology". Operating at 15° should be fine, see this part here: tidd.ly/3Df4ltE (etsy)

[@Shadowguy456234]

I actually just ordered one you didn't mention - the ORO Mignon Stark 65. Not saying I blame you, their lineup is a bit confusing! Anyway, I am in Switzerland and the advantage of living here is that I can pick it up in D for about 530€. Not bad for a feature-rich 65mm flat burr grinder. Merci vielmal fürs coole Video sowieso ;)

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Oh wow, that Stark looks nice! Similar to the Turbo but with diamond burrs it seems. I guess this ORO line is a whole other product line from Eureka. I might have to make a second video someday. Can't believe I missed all of these: Single Dose, XL, Dolce Vita, and Stark. I guess they also have a Promethus and Zeus coming soon too. Cheers!

[@Shadowguy456234]

Hi@@TomsCoffeeCorner , actually after doing some digging I found a note from Eureka on Facebook stating that it is just the XL without the accessories. Which suits me just fine. But in any case I should say you've impressed me with your passion and knowledge on coffee, so congrats on your first Patreon subscriber (: Looking forward to your future content!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@Shadowguy456234 Haha, wow I am humbled by that, thank you very much for joining as the first Patreon supporter! I do really appreciate your taking the time to watch, comment and even support! Let me know how you like the Stark 65! Cheers, Tom

[@Shadowguy456234]

​@@TomsCoffeeCorner Quite welcome. And thank you for taking the time to reply to all these comments, it speaks very well about your work ethic :) (No pressure, haha!)

[@NoZenith]

I had not heard of the Turbo but it sounds like the Oro single dose burrset!

[@MarcS4R]

which one would be the best for double-shot Expresso?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I would say any of them! They're not much different besides ergonomic features.

[@jedherman7450]

Nice video, thanks. My specialita does 18g in my about 10-11s.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks! I have heard that some people have faster or slower Specialitas...I guess I got a slow one. Still love it though.

[@noncompliance4100]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Me too mine does about a gram a second but it does it so quietly.

[@nikoyochum6974]

6:32 one gram per second sounds really low. My specialita grinds over 2 grams per second (depending on roast level, obv, although I've never set it over 9 for an 18 gram dose). I currently have it at 7.2 seconds for an 18 gram dose of the beans I am using this week

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, I don't know why mine is so slow. It was one of the first models, so maybe the burrs have become faster since then.

[@nikoyochum6974]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner definitely sounds possible.

[@jakobw135]

Why didn't you include the Facile?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Hi Jakob, the Facilie is the same as the Notte or Manuale. They are just marketed differently. Cheers!

[@SonjaEdlinger]

Is the Turbo louder than the specialita too?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

The Turbo also has the "Silent technology" www.eureka.co.it/en/plus/id/93.aspx

[@joecomputers2740]

so many. what about solis eureka? same as manuale?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, seems to be just a Solis label on a Manuale.

[@Marysart]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner No, Solis Manuale 135 W. Eureka Manuale 260 W. So less powerful?

[@NoZenith]

Specialita or Turbo? I know the Spec is 55 and others are 50mm 🤔

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

The Turbo looks sick, if you can afford the up price.

[@NoZenith]

@Tom's Coffee Corner I tried to guess at the beginning of the video haha. Scrolling down through the other comments after I commented again toward the end, were you completely unaware of the single-dose units that they had released? I'm curious if maybe they didn't Market them in your region because I've never heard of a couple of the ones mentioned in the comments like the Stark. I'm wondering if the turbo is perhaps just the Oro by a different name outside the North American Market (and I think Australian) 🤔

[@RakanWD]

hmmm I know that Specialita is 55mm burrs, as well as a version of the mingion with diamond burrs has 55mm as well. The rest is 50mm burrs. Also, the XL is 65mm as well as the ORO single dose is 65mm.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Nice! I guess the Turbo is called the XL in some countries? And is the ORO the same as the Zero, I am guessing?

[@RakanWD]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner After quick search, No. (To be honest I thought they are the same with different country names) Eureka has 2 brands (Eureka 1920) & (Eureka ORO) After reading Eureka facebook page, this is the difference: The Turbo is by (Eureka 1920), and has 65mm hardened steel burrs. The XL is by (Eureka ORO), and has 65mm diamond coated burrs, with larger adjustment knob. Both have seem motor, but just different burrs, and small design changes.

[@RakanWD]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner regarding your 2nd question, (Eureka ORO) Single dose grinder is NOT same as (Eureka 1920) mignon ZERO. The ZERO has 55mm burrs, while the Single Dose has 65mm burrs. Seems that the ZERO is a cheaper alternative, and to be honest, the price of the ZERO is tempting. Looks like Eureka is trying to close all price gaps to dominate the market with new releases.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Verrrry interesting. Kind of like VW and Audi, or Toyota and Lexus, the ORO seems to be Eureka's luxury line, with nicer knobs and diamond coated burrs. Thanks for the info!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, it seems like Eureka is using the Apple pricing strategy, including products for all budgets. They all seem to be nice grinders, but I do feel like it's too many to choose from. Some might get analysis paralysis.

[@martinzhao7193]

None of these is muti purpose?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Sure, you can grind for pour over with the espresso grinders as well. It's just that it's kind of a pain to switch from one to the other, unless you are single dosing.

[@benehubar2423]

Specialita

[@hewmat43ify]

$900NZ for Specialita

[@jean-lucbernhardt8545]

Presque parfait, sauf que "chronos" est un mot grec, pas latin 👎 🤣

[@TheAlbaz]

The moment you pronounced Specialitá I had to leave….

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

In Italian, the “ci” is pronounced “chi” which is what I was going for. I probably butchered the rest.

[@NoZenith]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner 🤗 I want to learn some Italian before I visit that beautiful country... I grew up learning some Spanish being from the United States and... my brain keeps balking 😆