Bach: Musical Offering in C minor, BWV 1079 (2000)

[@jorgeurzuaurzua4011]

I particularly liked this rendering of Musikalisches Opfer. It is clean, open, one can see the unbelievably complex structure of the fugues, canons and trio sonata with a clarity rarely achieved in other versions. This does not mean that the work loses its complexity and deep mystery, the root of its depth. Douglas Hofstadter comments regarding this work in his book Gödel, Escher, Bach; his analysis is worth reading. Musikalisches Opfer is a mathematics treatise, besides being some of the most complex music ever written.Its beauty is not easy to grasp, it results from its perfeciion and complexity. Thanks EuroArtsChannel and Kuijken Ensemble.

[@Galdring]

Heh, that book is the reason why I am here.

[@jorgeurzuaurzua4011]

@@Galdring Thanks for your answer. Douglas Hofstadter changed my life I read his monthly columns replacing Martin Gardner's in the "Metamagical Themas" in Scientific American. I bought the book Gödel Escher Bach in a small book store in Beacon Hill (Boston) perhaps 40 years ago. After all these years I still do not fully understand Gödel theorem. Buy I certainly got a better approximation to the genius of Bach.

[@StewartMNash]

I do think the music is beautiful and I love Bach. However, don't you think your comment is a bit bombastic and perhaps a misapprehension of music? Music is an art which is meant to communicate emotions and feelings which lie in the depths of the human soul. In the end, it is an abstract but spiritual affair. Mathematics has an entirely different purpose, and many try to conflate the two, which I think may stem from a superficial understanding of art and mathematics. But who am I to speak? Is there someone with both a PhD in mathematics and a Master's in music who would like to respond? It is a bit far-fetched (to me at least) to say that an algebraic topologist such as Allen Hatcher is doing the same thing as a composer such as Hans Zimmer.

[@jorgeurzuaurzua4011]

@@StewartMNash Stewart, thanks for your comment. I will, if you allow me, answer in "Shakespearean": "Stewart says Jorge is bombastic. If it were so, it is a grievous fault, and grievously shall Jorge answer for it". Now, "bombastic" is in itself a bombastic word, don't you agree? Perhaps "presumptuous" or "overstated" would do the job without offending. As to the mysterious relationship between music and mathematics, a relationship that is known to have been studied during classical Greece and possibly before, this is a difficult subject and the space we have in youtube is far too restrictive. I will be delighted to initiate such analysis in a more appropriate format. If I may suggest, for starters you could enjoy reading Douglas Hofstadter account of Bach, Friedrich and Musikalisches Opfer.

[@danielbiebel4012]

@@Galdring me too.

[@RevantuZ]

The level of musicianship and craftsmanship on display here is almost impossible to equal and must certainly be unsurpassable..

[@RicardoMora-n1u]

Gracias EuroArts, observando y escuchando este hermoso video de BACH, me doy cuenta de la importancia de hacer buenas obras mientras dura nuestra breve peregrinación en la tierra. BACH vive!!!❤😊🇮🇱🇩🇪🇨🇴🙏🙏✡️🙏🙏🕎🙏🙏🇮🇱🌺🌷🌳💟

[@TheBrokenConsort]

Bach's Musikalisches Opfer is one of many pieces that shows what a true genius he was. The Sonata Sopr'Il Soggetto Reale a Traversa, Violino e Continuo at 30:00 is the crown jewel of this entire concert.

[@anne-mariedegand6957]

'l Pgp

[@naydaespinozamunoz4069]

The Queen / Sonata Sopr' Il Soggetto Reale

[@juanmanuelmartinez1747]

Es como una cascada de belleza continua, inagotable. Gracias, Bach.

[@lordlufas4347]

El Padre de la Música.

[@jean-gabrielbarbagli9936]

Incredible, wonderful masterpiece, Bach's genius is in this music

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

An excellent performance of this masterpiece, fully respecting the complexity of each fugue and canon. Well done to all!

[@carlosolinas7397]

fantastici!! Ottima interpretazione dell'Offerta Musicale, mi sembrava di vivere nel periodo Bachiano.! Bravissimi

[@albi400]

...pubblico spiritualmente assorto, come partecipe di un sacro rito...che civiltà!

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

Fredreich challenged Bach to improvise a 3 voice figue of the theme, which Bach did on the spot. Bach's son Carl Phillpe Emmanuel, was employed at Frederich's residence as a court musician and Friedrich invited Bach to come for a visit. Frederich then challenged Bach to compose a 6 voice figue from the same theme. Bach said no, that he would need more time to properly work out the musical score and would send it to him later on.

[@thenewfire]

What is a 6 voice fugue?

[@Rayenn_19]

​@thenewfire Fugue with 6 voices. It starts at 19:10 Or you can watch this one (animated) to help you visualize each voices separately kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYrSpouqqtBjipo

[@teunbakker6202]

Fantastisch! Stil zijn en genieten!

[@agustinmaruri9079]

My favourite for years.

[@tamed4171]

I appreciate the order that you have the pieces played, I prefer it this way

[@carriehilber8974]

I just loved listening to classical music. I love Johan Sebastian Bach. I also love Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Ludwig Von Beethoven,Thcasvsky.Sorry for my bad spelling. I would love to listen to them. Thanks again for sharing this music video channel. Please send me more

[@somehow3707]

This is not classical, this is baroque. It's a very common mistake, don't worry.

[@victoriafrancesyoung8382]

@SomeHow Actually, music spanning across the Baroque period to modern-day contemporary music is all “classical music”. So, Bach is considered classical music, though he belongs to the Baroque period of classical music; on the other hand, composers like Haydn and Mozart are from the Classical period of classical music.

[@HyShroomOfficial]

@@victoriafrancesyoung8382 Actually only the laymen call all of it classical music. Really, that period from 1650-1908 is the common-practice, not classical.

[@georgebreidenthal725]

@@HyShroomOfficial Victoria is correct. Classical is the generic term for Renaissance, baroque, classical, romantic, and modern.

[@HidyDae]

Sehr sehr sehr schön! Very very very beautiful!

[@j.d.berends1903]

Thanks EuroArtsChannel for this upload, please change in the comment "super Thema Reqium" into "super Thema Regium" (about the royal theme).

[@j.d.berends1903]

Thank you.

[@elijaguy]

0:37 beginning

[@curtvaughan2836]

As a late composition of Bach, not long before he died in 1750, I at 71, living six years past Bach's death at 65, think that the great Master is crying in this piece. It is profound musically, and so full of sorrow. The very theme is a dance of sorrow.

[@danielwaitzman2118]

Exactly so.

[@marciogentil2624]

Gad...these grossartig germans and their sublime music and,tell you what....this guy Bach could and did write some pretty tunes...

[@alexandraappel4712]

This is Magnificent.

[@ferdinangenius]

In this piece are revealed the most deep beauties of the musical art. Is as comnplex as Tensor calculus but far more pleasant...

[@agustinmaruri9079]

Karl RICHTER version for DG is the reference version.

[@TheStockwell]

I was given the 100 disc complete DG-Archiv box set. Astonishing! I knew that Richter was an extremely important name in Bach performances. Now I know why. He is a transitional figure between Romantic and overblown earlier performances and the painfully accurate and bloodless approach of today. So, he's not popular with either camp. But, wow! The thought and passion you hear in his recordings is thrilling. ☺

[@cillyede]

Großartig!

[@Kekspere]

These chromatics almost make me mad! The melodies are so delightfully bizarre

[@erdemoz2187]

Absolute best way to describe it! I've been searching for words to describe the music for 15 years, now I think I've found it!

[@baxter5431]

Since was a "musical offering" for Frederick the Great who was a flautist himself, I wonder if performed this himself. Or did he have his court composer/fkautist Quantz perform it along with his other court musician/composer Carl Philip Emanuel Bach?

[@jamesohara2787]

I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned the connection with D. Hofstadter's book, Godel, Escher, Bach, for which Bach's M.O. is the seminal work. Perhaps someone with greater musical expertise than I could comment on a particular passage or two...

[@jorgeurzuaurzua4011]

James, I just answered a comment by Marbles mentioning Gödel, Escher, Bach. Hofstadter was not a professional musician (he was a physicist) but his perception of Bach was I think very deep. Thanks for your timely comment.

[@Yuriy21]

Bravissimo!

[@mrtoast244]

It's crazy how Bach improvised this whole thing / basically wrote it on the spot.

[@willisbodine878]

What is the actual date of this performance? Since Robert Kohnen, the superb harpsichordist, died on December 26, 2019, the presentation must have been before the advertised date of "in the Bach year of 2000." The posting date is April 1, 2018, which may give a clue . . . .

[@WKelly42]

Since 2019 is 19 years after 2000, I'd say that the performance was probably in the year 2000, 19 years before the harpsichordist passed.

[@HyShroomOfficial]

It was probably "during the Bach anniversary year in 2000".

[@automatofix]

7:01

[@jmrecillas]

It is sad to see how poor and lame are comments here. This is such a impressive masterpiece that almost any word is out of question. Nevertheless, I really enjoy this performance from the Kuijkens. Very Lutheran approach, wich means a little restraint, according to Bach's intention. This is not by any means an easy music to play or to listen to.

[@jorgeurzuaurzua4011]

I agree with you, it is a difficult work to grasp. Myself, I am a long way from cracking its mysteries. Now, to be honest, the comments of the public on other, more ppular and well known pieces are equally general and emotional. Nothing wrong with that

[@davidklein5007]

Well it's a good thing I kept my mouth shut then. :)

[@TheStockwell]

The Musical Offering - along with the Art of Fugue - is the "deep end of the swimming pool" of Bach's works. It's not full of great and memorable tunes. It took me repeated listenings to get used to it. I'd never recommended it as an introduction to Bach. That would be like telling someone interested in fine whisky to hunt down a $795,000.00 bottle of Yamazaki the next time a bottle comes up at auction. 😬

[@antoniomasotti9712]

Gli annunci di KZbin interrompono i singoli brani. Così è impossibile ascoltare.

[@tikitak9132]

바흐 음악의 헌정 프리데릭 대공이 준 주제를 즉흥적으로 변주하고 새롭게 쓴 작품들 2곡의 클라비어 리체르카레, 트리오소나타, 20곡의 카논 구성

[@louiscouperin3731]

27:48

[@danielwaitzman2118]

Sensational musicianship! But the music is still better served by a Boehm flute, either cylindrical or conical.

[@yssong5806]

This sound is a live recording? I think I'm listening to a CD.

[@user-in1ev1sp1k]

The only way I can tell these guys apart are by their hair cuts.

[@piergiuseppebarbero1752]

Ma come si fa ad interrompere un tale capolavoro universale con della meschina pubblicità...?😢 A cui tra l'altro non si presta neppure la minima attenzione? È un sacrilegio. E comunque non acquisterò alcuno dei prodotti/servizi pubblicizzati, posto che mi accorga di cosa trattano.

[@awreckingball]

The 90s/early 2000s were a better time.

[@mariacristinagarulli4831]

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