Conversation between Edward Said and Daniel Barenboim, part 1

[@platero814]

What we see today should make everyone of us realise how increidibly valuable is an initiative like this one

[@prammar1951]

Edward Said is the hero we need now.

[@mrnarason]

Yes now more than ever

[@mozartsbumbumsrus7750]

AND John Pilger!

[@mozartsbumbumsrus7750]

And Wilhelm Furtwängler also!

[@hayleyanna2625]

I agree but I would not wish for him to witness this genocide. It would break his heart.

[@prammar1951]

@@hayleyanna2625 😥

[@JazzfireflyNZ]

The world needs more minds, souls and friendships like these men. And love the closing joke of Berenboim, in jest about one of the central pillars of Said's academic writings: "it was my duty to dis-orient them."

[@747rkl]

HAHAHA yeah i loved it too!!

[@cheri238]

The Maestro Daniel Barenboim and Scholar Edward Said. Bravo 👏 👏 🙏❤️🌎🌍🌏🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵💫✨️💫✨️

[@AdVO1980]

wow. what a treat to listen to this. I love how expressive Edward Said is. Its so refreshing to hear him in conversation with a professional from a different discipline.

[@leonelborja5043]

Inolvidable señor y su espíritu...

[@hayleyanna2625]

I adore listening to Edward speak and this is a delightful informative conversation. Thank you for sharing this. ❤

[@mikefullermikefuller4711]

Don't you just love these intellectual types!

[@NikoHL]

TY for posting this wonderful conversation between 2 good people.

[@pannie1000]

Two great men in their field. Thank goodness for their intellect. If only the world would take on board what they believe in. The world would be a far, far better place and hopefully peace would reign.

[@ZAIDHAMDANY]

Both are great

[@akikoyanagisawa3916]

These interigent people' s vision and passion can change the world. It is sad that Said passed away.

[@reinfeddedewolff5565]

🎆THANK YOU VERY "MUCH"/ FOR THIS CAPTIVATING😮/ STILL END/ TWENTHIEST CENTURY🌟/HELD/CONVER- 🇪🇺SATION/ ABOUT MUSIC🌟/ BETWEEN 🌷THE TWO FOUNDERS😚 OF THE MAGNIFICENT/ MEDITERA- NEAN🌷/ MULTI-CULTI/ WEST 🌷EASTERN/ DIVAN/ ORCHESTRA/ AS "SUCH"🎆.

[@voraciousreader3341]

To comment on just a tiny bit of this wonderful conversation….in my life, I have found that if there is a paradoxical element to any concept or belief, then I know it is the right interpretation. I can’t come up with an example, of course, and it’s too difficult to explain, but music also presents itself to me as a paradox, which is why I loved playing and singing with other people.

[@alfiecdyson]

A paradox is where the inherent symmetry of universe asks of us to relinquish our ‘logic’ and trust our faith. You’re right, music is the epitome!

[@mrnarason]

11:00 I remember a story from a book on Beethoven on how played a played in piece for some friends and how the friend say this great piece of music he just played would be lost. Beethoven replied by saying it is not lost and decided to replay it note by note.

[@mustafakandan2103]

I can understand why Daniel Barenboim is to this day so affected by Edward Said. I don't believe Barenboim fully understood Said politically, but is definitely enchanted by his intellectual charms.

[@adlg4234]

And that goes with any high intensity moment. You can't get it back, because the period has ended, but what's good with music, is that you can always replay the piece.

[@Chicag343]

every time when I listen to Edward said always cry

[@lilypad999-i9v]

because he thinks he's an Arab?

[@Elenihellas963]

​@@lilypad999-i9v Wasn't he?

[@lilypad999-i9v]

@@Elenihellas963 Does he look like an Arab to you? He is clearly Jewish convert to Christianity from Israel, most Christians in that country are the Jews who converted when Jesus came along. plus he's half Lebanese, so that also makes him even more Canaanite, not Arab. Native Lebanese are NOT ARABS. Levantines in Ancient Times were never Arabs.

[@essaubeid721]

Very nice

[@m.a.3322]

16:00 very interesting. The language we think in.

[@nelbanelba6998]

Cuál es la razón que tantos hispanos parlantes no podamos disfrutar de éstas entrevistas. Quisiéramos solo que los subtítulos sean en español....

[@lenablochmusic]

This process reminds me of European musicians trying to play jazz. Some will remain on "translating" stage, but some are speaking the language as their own. Fascinating. BTW, Israeli jazz musicians also prefer to leave Israel for good and go to Europe or US.

[@gerardbedecarter]

Most interesting.

[@monacojerry]

I believe that deep down, they were cousins. I mean this intellectually, metaphorically, and genetically. They were close cousins intellectually and probably distant cousins genetically. (This is my political program.)

[@charlesmugleston6144]

Beautiful - Unity amidst diversity - "Truth is ever expressed in paradox" just like Edward FitzGerald's world famous mystical masterpiece The Ruba'iya't of Omar Khayya'm. Charles Mugleston Omar Khayyam Theatre Company.

[@paulwhetstone0473]

Lucan, the Latin poet wrote in his epic poem, Pharsalia, AD 65, “…Whose charming voice and matchless musick mov’d The savage beasts, the stones, and senseless trees”(of course music can also make you mad as hell). Is that the paradox? Lol

[@organboi]

Said keeps interrupting Barenboim. Very very frustrating.

[@phanx0m924]

Clap, clap, clap...

[@mikefullermikefuller4711]

I think I am a bit bisexual. I certainly think that Edward Said was a lovely, intelligent and good looking man.

[@doublethink6996]

checkered shirt with checkered suit tho

[@RedfilmMovies]

U gay bro

[@bobmcgahey1280]

edward was very sick here--in his final illness

[@gamingwithslacker]

I find his voice very beautiful

[@Caravaggio44]

Great dialogue but...what's up with the height differential in seating - looks ridiculous lol!

[@paulturner1973]

Said says that people understand music differently from how they understand a poem - because people can dislike an idea in a poem, whereas in music the same aversion is not possible [because, he implies, musical ideas are not parts of people’s lives in the way that stuff mentioned in a text does evoke an experience-based response]. I humbly beg to differ… I could have a tremendously powerful response to a musical idea, regardless of its context. I could dislike a sound from early music as much as I immediately fall happily under the spell of a sound from modern music. In other words, I find his distinction completely wrong…

[@organboi]

A bit disappointing. I thought this would be deep and moving.

[@voraciousreader3341]

“They are all from the Orient, so it is my duty to dis-orient them!”

[@paulwhetstone0473]

Best comment!

[@Elenihellas963]

What do you define as Orient? It all depends in which part of the world you live in... Only a voracious reader of comics would write such a comment!

[@tompommerel2136]

The Marxist-inspired Edward Said has done enough damage. Thank you.

[@lilypad999-i9v]

TWO J3WS IN CONVO, NICE

[@erpollock]

Said has a totally American delivery. No accent.

[@UnbeknownToHis]

I don't think that Barenboim understood 3/4 of what Edward said was talking about

[@TheGarryq]

This was the year Said and Barenboim founded the Western-Eastern Divan Orchestra, the Barenboim-Said Akademie funds up to 90 students. The two knew and understood each other. It would be pointless designing a conversation to destroy the work for which they were both working.

[@organboi]

I think it is reverse

[@ahmedbutt1975]

what as boring g g g g

[@ranashair2312]

Ahmed Butt really hahaha

[@mohammadshahade8753]

Ahmed Butt Your butt is the only boring thing here..