How top tourist destinations try to overcome overtourism and touristification | DW News

From Canary Islands, Venice to Amsterdam, Europe’s popular holiday destinations are pushing against ‘overtourism.’ But what exactly is ‘overtourism’? And how can we change that?
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[@alvarotorres9057]

I went to Europe recently and I was shocked with the amount of influencers recording their content. I hadn’t gone to Europe, since 2007 and I forgot how much the world has changed since 2007.

[@jdotsalter910]

I was in Spain this year visiting friends and we were in a restaurant when some other American women whipped out a huge phone light specifically made for influencers, and started doing their review. Crazy.

[@enriqueprizefighter]

Same here

[@hanipasha8859]

Influencers are 🤡🤡

[@truegrit7697]

Ugh - sounds awful.

[@PM2024-]

Avoid Bali then

[@CaptCanuck4444]

I've stopped travelling to the most popular destinations, and instead visit 2nd and 3rd cities, and less popular countries. The locals are generally happy when you visit there, as it benefits the local economy without the negatives.

[@zzizahacallar]

Yes I did that when I traveled Europe

[@suesol3548]

I live in Puerto Vallarta Mexico and we are having a similar problem. Us locals cannot afford housing anymore, rents sky rocketed, new million dollar condos are only for rich foreigners and we are pushed further away inland. Tourists return to live here after they retire cause its cheaper than the US and Canada and then they still have the audacity to boss around over the locals, so entitled.

[@mandandi]

This is why Botswana 🇧🇼 decided on the high value low volume tourism policy many years ago. The environment needed to be protected. Wise decision.

[@enwi3nd]

Bhutan too.

[@truegrit7697]

I am so glad that I traveled the world 30 years ago, before influencers existed. I met loads of local people and befriended them. It was great. You could actually experience the culture, and not be bombarded by tourists.

[@carmenl163]

Those are my thoughts exactly! Also, staying somewhere was affordable, and you felt welcome.

[@kontopoulos3107]

Local places loose their identity, restructured for tourist expectations, costs escalating unaffordability for locals!

[@Matthewt756]

That doesn’t matter if countries in Europe don’t protect their borders from foreigners.

[@timezero5949]

How do these places lose their identity? If they were generic and lacked identity then tourists wouldnt bother with them because they'd be unoriginal. The only argument I'm seeing from the few poor people griping about this is foreign patrons are overcrowding their favorite cafe in the summer. Which is dumb in my opinion.

[@timezero5949]

Inflation is going to skyrocket after all of the tourists leave. Becareful what you wish for.

[@user-ki4vh3xj1u]

😂😂😂 nonsense

[@nunyabidness3075]

You mean the locals who voted for the government that subsidized the tourism industry and many of their jobs? Look, if a bunch of retirees come in and buy much of the homes, and then try to strangle all the local businesses, that’s pretty gross, but at least it’s the will of the people. Still, they are basically coming into an area that the government invested a ton of money in to create jobs and revenues, and sort of stealing that infrastructure.

[@calexico66]

The problem is that locals benefit very little from tourism, most economic benefits go to a small portion of businesses that provide accomodation and services to tourists. But these are often low wage jobs and these businesses tend to hire non locals that will settle for less. So people that live there often have to deal with unaffordable housing and higher prices, plus having to deal with the aftermath of the messes that visitors often make.

[@JD-tn5lz]

You said it, brother. However, just a fraction of their evils. Most of us Alaskans hate tourists, unless we're employed by or in bed with Holland America. Nearly all the tourism workers up here are 48ers or foreign students. Our state motto should be "come to Alaska and bring your women and your money...leave Alaska without either."

[@princepeterwolf]

That's the best summary for this crisis I have ever seen online, well put!

[@bananaempijama]

THIS!! Been living in Lisbon, Portugal for almost 40 years and it's getting worse by the year.

[@kmick8108]

Air BNB hurts everyone

[@scch4056]

Housing is a basic necessity and should never become an investment business.

[@mrmoshpotato]

Absolutely. AirBNB not only has people (or companies) buying properties for investment purposes, but AirBNB is an unregulated hotel industry. You could be renting a nice place at a good price, or renting a dump that shouldn't be on the market at all.

[@pavloss3119]

No it actually doesn't hurt anything

[@scch4056]

@@pavloss3119 troll?

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

It's not airbnb, it's too much airbnb. It's too much of everything tourism related really. There has to be rules and limits.

[@jamestk656]

I've been to several places in Spain, France, and Italy. They're nice but not irreplaceable experiences. Not only that, but you could tell the locals are sick of dealing with tourists too or even just foreigners in general. At this point, they might as well charge tourists 100 euros per visit and that should fix their overtourism problem overnight.

[@zeegeejay]

All these probelms exist in my hometown of Moab, Utah, here in the US. I'm glad overtourism is being discussed. Overtourism makes it impossible for the locals to afford anything and sometimes impossible to get around. This town wouldn't exist without tourism but too much is too much.

[@PM2024-]

Bar Harbor, Maine too 🌊

[@BlueredCatalan]

€5 Euro daily fee for someone who was able to afford a trip to a foreign country, hotel, shopping and other activities. Somehow the Italian government thinks this will reduce tourist overcrowding in Venice 😅😂

[@scch4056]

They (Government) are just increasing their earnings....the average citizen has no benefit in the mass tourism but only looses.

[@msg4alexandre]

Exactly, better off to shut down their airport and port, nobody in nobody out.. problem solved... and please don't ask for EU money to save your sinking city, Sunk Venice would be another option to keep tourist away.

[@emmanuelnaranjo8114]

It should be 1000$

[@FailedFlea93]

@@emmanuelnaranjo8114Why?

[@Limecat88]

@@emmanuelnaranjo8114 With your logic lets just make it $1 million

[@jenniferhorstmann2279]

I don’t want to be anywhere that I’m not wanted. I’ll just stay home, thanks.

[@tpop3723]

Time for diversifying the economy and not solely relying on tourism.

[@user-84-rg9-8n2]

Excellent idea. Manufacturing, high tech, office work . . . but those have been mostly relocated, outsourced, automated. And nobody wants to do organic farm work.

[@Joey-ct8bm]

🤣 Yeah, sure. People won't come to Venice or a gorgeous island anymore.

[@vrrr.j]

The economy will never healed. That's why many countries must rely on tourism. Understandable, but if not treated right, many places will destroyed.

[@flaviopinto8283]

Thats pretty much what they have now. Once its gone the misery and downfall will take place

[@shauncameron8390]

The Canary Islands don't the land mass or expertise for anything else.

[@TesterAnimal1]

What does the economy of the Canary Islands produce without tourism? Be careful what you wish for.

[@morningsunshine0216]

Exactly. They’re biting the hand that feeds them

[@AMG-BENZ-1]

Why am I not surprised? I'm a 5 months/year traveler and I'm perfectly OK if restrictions are set. Adjust according to local people's needs. Cruise ships are the first that need to go.

[@minhlede]

all these measurements target the tourist who is just consuming and using the offer that's provided by greedy investors. that's the source of the problem. your aunt who is renting her room or apartment to tourists is not the problem. the students who book that offer are not the problem. it's the companies and investors who are buying and renting real estate on a big scale and drive the locals away until the city turns into disneyland.

[@watjejanssen7535]

stop tourist coming in but dont cry if there is no tourists money coming in problem solved !

[@MargaritaMagdalena]

Een land moet niet afhankelijk zijn van toerisme. Er is voor autochtonen genoeg ander werk nodig en mogelijk.

[@michaellynch1132]

For places like Venice, there isn't much money coming in from tourists. Most of the tourists come in from the Cruise liners and they eat and get everything from the boat. All they do is come, walk around and take pictures and leave their plastic in Venice. Mass tourism, particularly Cruise ships is not good for any place.

[@trnq4397]

obviously they know they can survive without relying on tourism that’s why they started protesting

[@elulugnie4250]

They're not against tourism. They're against OVER tourism. Massive difference.

[@watjejanssen7535]

@@elulugnie4250 how much is over and how much is normal according to you then

[@mintheman7]

The world is a big place, there are a lot of other places for tourists besides Europe. Not only are they cheaper but also more authentic if you stay away from the tour groups.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

It’s fine to visit Europe, just visit some of the lesser know cities and towns and they will be happy to have you there. Trust me, I do it a lot and it’s a really enjoyable experience.

[@Marcel.Miranda]

For starters, stop the locals for having theirs homes as "alternative accommodation". If regulated hotels were the only accommodation option, the number will reduce significantly. But then, most of the "tourist" destinations have businesses and significant part of the economy based on tourism. So guess winning "tranquility" and "serenity" would represent damages on local business.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

The answer is finding a middle ground in which tourism and locals can coexist; in which (more)local businesses are actually better for people's lives, and don't make them worse. You don't have to forbid anything, but there has to be rules and limits. Hotels are too much also. Amesterdam just fordid the building of new ones for example.

[@quantummotion]

The locals will sell their homes to the hotels for good money, and you will still end up with the same problem. The people with new money in hand buy cheaper property outside the cities, driving up prices in the towns and countryside. People will still complain.

[@msg4alexandre]

They want to have both. it's like getting paid but not working for it.. free meal.

[@user-84-rg9-8n2]

@@msg4alexandre It's the hotel and restaurants that are reaping most of the revenue, but locals having to pay more.

[@delta_glider4362]

@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh >tourism and locals can coexist OK. What local busineses Vienece have aside chained with tourism?

[@revivemtb5961]

No problem will go elsewhere

[@ednafernandez8455]

Jajajaja 🤣

[@Neeper78]

Yup

[@urimtefiki226]

For years I have not been on vacation, only the rich can afford it.

[@julierogers1155]

It IS expensive.

[@icwiener9935]

ryanair flights to portugal are like 30 euro and a room, if you dont need anything fancy maybe 35 per night

[@andreiavieiradasilva7534]

@@icwiener9935And meanwhile the population in Portugal can’t even afford to rent a whole house

[@trildi]

@@andreiavieiradasilva7534 Entirely down to the Portuguese politicians, even Central and Eastern European countries are overtaking Portugal when it comes to the minimum national wage.

[@MarkWongMD]

​@@andreiavieiradasilva7534Nobody can afford to rent a house today anywhere in the west. Portugal acts like this situation is unique to them. Wake up. It's even more unaffordable in the US and Canada.

[@mikethespike7579]

It baffles me how so many people think they all need to spend their vacation in one single place. I mean, come on, 20 million visitors in Venice per year! I've travelled around a lot in Europe, seen and spent time in many gorgeous places where the folk are begging for tourists. If all these millions of tourists were spread out over these places you wouldn't notice them and everyone would be happy.

[@anonymous..-]

I stopped visiting tourist destinations years ago. I got disgusted at the amount of people allowed to trample on human antiquities. Rome is sad. I now do more natural and physically active travel, not walking around and looking at old stuff and eating.

[@johnerikson2107]

What about the strains on water supply, sewage treatment, and trash disposal?

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

and the architectural heritage of some of these citys. There have been several reports of it becoming severely and rapidly degraded because of the amount of people visiting them. In the end, tourism can kill itself.

[@matthewmccarthy2406]

Air BNB should be banned and each country come up with it's own version that can be regulated to benefit the local communities where it operates. Why should the uber rich in San Fransisco get 15% of rental spaces in Barcelona and else where? If it could be kept local in would provide good jobs and could be tailored to local conditions. Boycott Air bnb and encourage local versions to be developed.

[@BlueFrenzy]

Barcelona has a population of 1.5 million people. There's about 20 million tourist every year. If we cannot see the problem...

[@cyberfunk3793]

And those tourists bring a huge amount of income to that city and without that income many of the people living in Barcelona would be left without a job, so how is having more jobs a problem?

[@benavidesruiz]

Barcelona already has other industries (medical research, TECH, car industry, etc, etc) ,and too much tourism is disturbing the other business and living population. Too much greed of tour operators and Airbnb. The government (local, regional and national level)is taken strict measures about this, if not greed of just few may destroy everything and also jeopardise other industry sectors.

[@Joey-ct8bm]

Spain has a one good economic year and they think they can do without tourism. Amsterdam has also 20 million, but is a lot smaller than Barcelona. 900k population. We also get the stag do's of the UK.

[@masterkraft4746]

@@cyberfunk3793 Barcelona is already shifting paradigm, but can't be made too fast due to politics. Barcelona has a tech hub, and many other industries thriving as well. It doesn't really need that much tourism, or at least mass tourism

[@masterkraft4746]

@@Joey-ct8bm Barcelona is not as bad as it was 8 years ago. AirBnB is already almost banned unless you got a license and they don't mint new ones anymore

[@eksbocks9438]

Short term rentals steal homes from the locals. Tourists are supposed to stay in hotels. And all that money goes back to the community. Instead of one selfish property owner.

[@stevenalvarado-doc7334]

so its better that a multinational corporation gets the money as opposed to a local?

[@TurinStark5]

​@@stevenalvarado-doc7334it's not even locals... I've seen many rooms / places being managed by companies...

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

Hotels are too much also. Amesterdam for example has just forbided the construction of new ones. There has to be rules and limits for everything. They all can exist. To the point they don't become harmful.

[@quantummotion]

​@@JoseFerreira-zb7whExactly. I would rather stay in room/apartment in an AirBNB in the Alfama in Lisbon, and see the family that lives in the same building get the money so they can afford to stay in the Alfama. The local.pays taxes. My last trip to Portugal (Azores and Lisbon), both locations the landlord stayed in the building where I rented a room, both landlords only owned the one home I stayed at.

[@SK-lt1so]

​@@quantummotion Disagree It's like zoning-an Airbnb is in a residential area, in a residential home, these places are not supposed to be businesses. A hotel is in a location for businesses, labeled as a business. The neighbors of the place you stayed probably weren't happy.

[@Pou1gie1]

This is why NY has become less and less affordable since the early 90s. I think that there should be a retroactive state and federal law banning non-citizens from buying land and/or property. This would help to decrease rents and make buying affordable for more citizens.

[@Illisil]

Time to simply raise the prices. If you have too much demand relative to what you're able and willing to supply, then its time to raise prices!

[@TurinStark5]

And then you worsen the experience for the locals. You can't charge different prices in cafés, restaurants etc between tourists an locals... This would hurt the locals a lot

[@user-84-rg9-8n2]

@@TurinStark5 No, only for accommodation . . . wait . . . that's already affecting locals.

[@Illisil]

@TurinStark5 when I said raise prices, I meant in the hotels. An increase in hotel prices would reduce the number of tourists coming to the area. Also, with fewer tourists, restaurants would see falling demand and would lower their prices to compensate. This is basic economics

[@user-qy4ov8dp5y]

Това няма да спре туристите, само ще влоши качеството на предлаганите услуги. Омагьосан кръг.

[@user-qy4ov8dp5y]

@@TurinStark5 В Турция в ресторантите неофициално има различни цени за местните и туристите. И много мамят.

[@LA90598]

Careful what you wish for Europe. I don't see lots of other industries lined up for when the tourists don't go any more

[@ludovician]

Don't you dare point out how the Euro hit parity with the dollar recently

[@BTG07]

It seems like they forgot how many business suffers and went bankrupt during covid.

[@missakhaladjian]

20 hour work week consequence

[@imnobodywhoareyouu]

I was thinking the same, don’t those places live from tourism?

[@FunnyVideosImedia]

They hate turists but they love turists’ money…. What ironically dilema

[@shauncameron8390]

Because tourism is what's keeping their locale afloat.

[@bradfordjhart]

Be careful what you wish for, if the tourists leave and never come back, and you have an economy that's based on tourism 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JD-tn5lz]

WOW. You drank some KoolAid and said "Good!" That is precisely the attitude that the large multi-nationals like Holland America wants you to have. I've lived in some of those communities. Here's how it is, at least in Alaska. The multi dominates the market. There is no competition, every "independent" operator has to pay a kickback (anywhere from 20 to 35%) to the multi or the tourists brought in by the multi (easily 75% of the traffic) never learn of those indie operators or are guided to a different operator cooperating with the multi. Nearly the entire staff of the multi on site is imported. Close to 100%. In Alaska it means, non-Alaskan Lower 48ers in management, and a few in customer contact roles and usually eastern Europeans and South Americans doing all the menial labor. The foreign imports are brought in because Alaskan minimum wage seems a fortune to them, they will each easily work 60 to 70 hours a week, and they make few complaints about living conditions and rarely know about overtime pay. The tourism workers also spend (when they spend) their wages on site with the employer. I could go on and on. So if you ever visit Alaska, odds are great that if your guide speaks unaccented American English, he or she is a 48er and is highly unlikely to have any first hand knowledge...they also put NOTHING back into the local economy. Nothing. That guy bussing the table or the gal cleaning your hotel room? Romania or Malaysia or Brazil or etc. No, tourism is a bane. We locals pretty much hate you, but we'll take your money if we can and your wife if we want to.

[@ecastel1977]

To say that local population does not benefit from tourism is so wrong in so many levels.

[@renanbp]

Funny how many of the Canary Islanders were once tourists that decided to move there.

[@neothaka]

A podcast phrased it quite accurately. Traveling for many people today is not about the experience, but about building your social media character. Everything is done for validation on social media platforms it seems. If less than 1000 people like the instagram shot, the trip was considered a failure I suppose.

[@akinigiri]

Travel has become way too easy And people flexing holidays on social media doesn’t help … Back when, traveling was a luxury and not many did it

[@shauncameron8390]

Because only the rich and privileged could travel.

[@ebarbour71]

If tourism is limited, unemployment will go up. The pandemic kinda showed what happens when tourism stops to those popular destinations.

[@msg4alexandre]

Instead Canaries Island, go to Cape Verde next door, there you will be welcome, they appreciate Tourists spending their hard earn money in their country.

[@masterkraft4746]

because they are poorer

[@ChristineFisher123]

Cape Verde is already developing with some tourist resorts going up..

[@Captain.Pugwash]

Nothing there tho. Only the beach. No culture worth talking about.

[@shawnbell6392]

Just having money in ones pocket does not mean they own other places or have more rights than those who live there.

[@kenhunt5153]

Do not travel in August. Try to avoid the summer. The time has come to avoid the hotspots: NYC, Rome, Venice, Amsterdam, Paris, Prague and many others. Off season travel to Perugia, York, Lecce, Northern Spain, Poland or inland Croatia. October or April should be considered.

[@shinyshinythings]

Um no not northern Spain thank you very much.

[@kenhunt5153]

@@shinyshinythings So...visiting Northern Spain is a no go? Could you say that about any area then? What % of Spain's GDP comes from tourism?

[@markycypress8484]

I 'm glad the too many breaks a year thing was mentioned. So many people fly TOO MUCH, it's just not viable any more.

[@user-sm1eu1sl1r]

then stay home pal.

[@movdqa]

I think that this exists in a lot of places to some extent. We have this in our sleepy state from time to time. It creates a mess in small towns that aren't designed for traffic, visitors, and trash.

[@Suehuskins]

Maybe check to see if officials are advertising your town as a getaway to boost their pay-er I mean bring more dollars for the town. Two towns near me had ads all over(even yt) as a getaway and now it takes over an hour to get home from work in what use to be a 10 minute drive. As far as rent, there is NO way locals can pay rent for a decent home anymore. Try to buy a home and unless you know someone, it is impossible. Homes are sold within 10 minutes of listing and at crazy prices. .

[@movdqa]

@@Suehuskins We're a tourism state but we already have more than we can handle. People want a ton of recreation after the pandemic and someone doing a viral video of some out of the way place is more the problem than small towns advertising. One example (not in our state) is what happens to Salem, MA in September and October.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

In destinations like the ones mentioned it's all the time like this. Numbers are crazy! And they aren't small towns, so there are a lot of people getting harmed.

[@thomasm5714]

From the tourist's viewpoint, the answer is to select places as yet unspoiled by tourism. Example destinations would include the rainy, crime-ridden city of Buenaventura (Colombia), Elephant Island in the Antarctic some of the more remote villages in the mountains of Afghanistan. In such resorts, the tourist can experience an authentic taste of local culture without the annoyance of meeting other tourists.

[@odiii1966]

Same thing here in Holbox, Tulum, Playa del Carmen, etc. Too much turism and poor infrastructure.

[@ThatGuy68580]

That's a shame I am a respectful tourist and I really wanted to go to Spain soon. Oh well

[@zapfanzapfan]

The problems of being popular...

[@mikevarga6742]

Since they don’t produce badly any product anymore. They need tourism. They will be crying in a few years about it

[@markmd9]

I was in Venice. The city center was transformed in a big Mall. You can find there all international brands. That city is built for tourists.

[@stellarsjay1773]

It was not when I visited it a few decades back. There were no cruise ships, no influencers. A short walk from the central square and you were in quiet corners with no one but a few locals.

[@timezero5949]

I'm willing to bet the few complainers have been tourists themselves.

[@teachmetheway928]

Way to many people on the earth already

[@scch4056]

No, earth is big enough. But there are way to many greedy people...

[@voyd1507]

Volunteer to sign out

[@oldsenpai4337]

Actually, were in population decline and many countries want their populations to have more children to combat this decline.

[@gomperhooblet]

​@@oldsenpai4337People are making that choice because there are too many people. Governments just want more taxpayers

[@trildi]

@@voyd1507 They won't let us. Assisted dying is illegal.

[@Captain.Pugwash]

Where would the Canary islands be economically if there hadn't been decades of tourism?

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

That Hong Kong accent though.

[@lazylad8544]

Airbnb is not just a problem in tourist areas. There is one opposite me and we live in the suburbs.

[@jackfenton2271]

You're a local in one place, and a tourist everywhere else.

[@JesusLopez-vv9du]

Take the tourist economy away, matter of time before the beg to have it back

[@gaborrajnai6213]

I like tourists, they bring life to our city. Although my city is built for millions of people, so I can see thatr they are too much for a smaller community.

[@sedecim]

This has been going on in places in the Caribbean , and other parts of the world for decades. But now more European and western cities are dealing with the problems. Not to mention the climate problems that tourism is effecting globally? More and more flights means more air pollution and noise pollution for people who live near airports.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

the list of problems is endless. Do low cost flying companys fly to the caribbean?

[@miguelmelchior986]

Most visited countries on the planet are European, France being first and Spain second

[@lg206]

I watched a documentary where in Jamaica the locals don’t even have public beaches anymore in some cities. All the beach land is owned by hotels, putting small fisherman out of work. Tourists have an ethical responsibility to also advocate for locals.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

@@lg206 in Greece tere have been recent protests on that too.

[@lg206]

@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh I vote with my money. I don’t visit any place where tourists > locals. The whole point is traveling is to meet different people from different cultures

[@pattyofurniture]

Perhaps we should only go to places we've been invited.

[@Alos-yt2it]

Some just claim overtourism to stabilize theire declining currency

[@HuskyOwner-bl1jf]

Tourism is a double edged sword Local businesses want the money that tourists bring in, but tourists are looking to let loose and have a good time They rarely are very considerate of the locals Even Fort Lauderdale in the United States wants college students to stop coming there for spring break because of all the havoc that they cause But if they actually got their way the community would lose a lot of money and I mean a LOT

[@Lux2]

I lived in San Diego for most of my life and it's a different kind of tourist city. Parts of downtown and the beaches are being exploited by the homeless junkies and people are afraid to visit Tijuana due to the drug cartels.

[@kyungshim6483]

Tourists chasing Instagram photos is the problem.

[@scottduke2809]

come to MIAMI baby!

[@nigelmansfield3011]

A hard problem to solve now when so many areas, countries and businesses have become dependent on tourism. I remember a time when Paros was a quiet backwater. Even local, domestic over-tourism is a problem. I visited an area of Italy, not far from Rome, where the town and lake were overrun with Italian tourists in summertime but were dead in winter. I am from Jersey by descent there is a two tier property market that precludes visitors from buying certain properties. Perhaps something like this could be expanded but I can see local businesses objecting. Florence is a nightmare in the summer.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

Amesterdam is also forbiding the building of more hotels. Barcelona also ended some tourist bus' routes in the city centre. Canada is about to tax the richest to pay for more housing. Enough is enough.

[@cyberfunk3793]

And the richest in Canada will just move to US instead, how is that going to help Canada?

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

@@cyberfunk3793 then there will be more houses for the rest. But i doubt most of them will. By the way, they also forbid foreigners from buying houses there. There is no magic recipe that spontaneously solves the problem, but all of these are examples of good starts. By the way the rich sould pay more taxes either way. Inequality is a cancer in the developed world right now.

[@masterkraft4746]

Barcelona has also forbidden the building of new hotels, and also heavily regulated Airbnb

[@user-sm1eu1sl1r]

@@cyberfunk3793 it will clear the air you breathe.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

@@cyberfunk3793 supply and demand. if they leave there are also more houses available, so it always helps. Either way i seriously doubt all will leave. If they would want to leave to pay less taxes there are options for a long time. It also depends on how much they have to pay more, don't have the actual numbers. There are no magic solutions but it has to start somewhere. All of the measures refered are a good start, but only that. Whatever happens next, we'll just have to wait and see, and then apply new measures, or maybe even back up on these ones. What you can't do is nothing. The market won't solve this for the people being harmed, that's for sure.

[@michaelmoran3372]

Yeah I'm pretty sure the carrying capacity of the tourist areas was exceeded long before the tourists arrived. It's just being exceeded by more now.

[@MT-ys6ju]

This is all a little bit exaggerated! In Malta we have these problems too and sometimes i do think to myself that it's frustrating as we are a very small island and live here can be extremely claustrophobic.. this is why i in fact, spend at least 6 months per year elsewhere. But I must admit, without tourists Malta would be a very boring place indeed and I would certainly not want to live here.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

Maybe diversifying and having other activities might help with it not being boring. Also it's good for the economy not becoming dependent on a single sector (covid was a good example of why). The problem isn't tourism, it's mass tourism. Can't seem to grasp that what's good for the economy of a country is bad for the people who actually live there and the conclusion is it's good for everyone. ???

[@trildi]

Balance is key!

[@stevenr.rodriguez9997]

A majority of people can't just spend 6 months away, you are very fortunate to be in that position.

[@user-qy4ov8dp5y]

Може би е добре да се пътува извън активния туристически сезон, макар че основните дестинации са целогодишни. Бях два пъти в Малта през зимата, когато е приятно времето и цените са значително по-ниски, и се насладих на острова без тълпи от туристи. В Рим малко след като Италия отвори границите след епидемията. На фонтана Треви бяхме около 20 души и във Ватикана спокойно разглеждахме музеите. Отказахме от натоварени места, за щастие сме ги посещавали през годините и търсим алтернативни маршрути. И никога не забравяме, че ние сме гости на дадено място и дължим уважение към местните жители. Така опознаваме тяхната култура с която се събразяваме. От България

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

@@stevenr.rodriguez9997 that explains a lot.

[@user-yy9hk9od9u]

This means higher entry prices for tourists.

[@danmayberry1185]

Tourism revenues rarely "trickle down" to ordinary citizens.

[@bog1dan]

I don't think they know what they want. Some areas only survived and evolved due to turism . Otherwise, the'll be dead zones. Or it's just a way to extract more money from tourists ?

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

It's not a question of all or nothing. It's just become too much of a good thing. It's harmful to people now. There can be a middle ground in which it's good for the local economy while not harming local people and surroundings. There has to be rules and limits.

[@quantummotion]

Some places have forgotten how desperately poor they were before tourism. Tourism was the one thing that worked because the location in question had nothing else economically to offer the market. Amsterdam certainly can restrict tourists hard, but the Canary Islands? Not so much.

[@filipepedro8272]

Just cos you need to feed yourself, it does not mean you have to overeat... Everything needs balance. This over saturated tourism creates other social problems. It needs to be accessed and tackled so it can benefit both the industry and locals

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

@@quantummotion there's always something else. You just have to get past the obvious. Most industries don't depend on geography. Also, tourism exists in those islands for a long time and only now they complain. So tourism isn't the problem. Too much of it is.

[@folddealfeal2740]

​@@JoseFerreira-zb7whfacts, people don't understand the middle ground anymore 😂. Not everything should be all nothing. There can be compromises

[@msg4alexandre]

People are never happy, always complaining.. if there's no tourists in this places most of people would be unemployed, and very likely migrating to other places, want to stop tourists? Just Shut down the airport. Let's see how long until those ungrateful people will be asking for tourists back or for their government give them social benefits.

[@koushikdas1992]

Are you from that island!?

[@AnthonyEvans-gf8fd]

If they don’t want us there that’s absolutely fine with me, Asia is absolutely full of amazing places that really want people to visit

[@ant647448336]

We have the touristification problem in Gibraltar. Many shops are aimed towards visitors, many jewellery shops, tobacconists, alcohol establishments, souvenirs etc.

[@frankyymilkyy9001]

Are these shops run by locals? If so, it's their decision.

[@yuyij6703]

Is it? I went to Gibraltar last month. It was devoid of tourists

[@ant647448336]

@@yuyij6703 Wait until the cruise ships come in or it's a public holiday on the other side of the border. It gets very busy.

[@ericbishop3468]

They have it easy! Hawaii has only 1.4 million residents, and 15 million visitors per year. That's a lot of sewage to handle with a 70 year old system.

[@eddiepang7822]

I definitely won't go there. Why waste time/$$$ to go those areas that make you unhappy 😔

[@soundscape26]

Good... stay where you are.

[@frankyymilkyy9001]

@@soundscape26 your logic is broken

[@detlefschnepel2723]

Completely agree with those people!!

[@i86ij99]

Even if people think AirBnb are ok because of "free market" or "capitalism", they are actually getting more expensive than regular hotels (including cleaning fees), plus they may not have nice pools or dining services or bars.

[@tryrightbrain]

Very reasonable hotel (and food) prices in Paris and Italy last month. No crowds and restaurants, small businesses (hotels, coach company) were VERY happy to host a single event for 40 visitors instead of 10 groups of 4 visitors. Siena charged a very expensive "vehicle parking fee" for day-trippers, but that seemed understandable when you see how Siena is set up (city wall, etc). Beautiful! Social media who push "off the beaten path" travel likely are directing MUCH foot traffic to places without the infrastructure to support it. Venice and Siena and other places have limited space, limited paved roads, etc. Makes sense that super short visits (not much spending) could only be supported with some fees to keep these small places functioning under the load of extra people.

[@phyarth8082]

Jarvis Cocker - 'Cause everybody hates a tourist.

[@teleopinions1367]

I think that some European countries need to diversify their economy so they are not extremely dependent on foreign tourism. Develop industries that can help people in your respective counties to have a better standard of living. Charge a lot of money to access sensitive historic centers. I go to Europe off-season. I hate the massive tourism in some cities, so I go after most of them are gone because I want to talk to locals in their language and see how they live and how they move around their city when the tourists are not there. It is usually a very rewarding experience.

[@kimberlysoto6864]

Look to your neighbors for huge part of this problem being fueled. Renting out rooms , airbnb properties they own for money grab…. Then complain of all the people there in their city. Can’t have it both ways. Choose your city and home or all that extra cash you want renting your places out. Air bnb is poison to these cities!! And I call out the hit and run tourism if those giant cruise ships. One day in port. Not much spent as the ship is sustainable in all they need. Hotels and restaurants not needed . They load in ship and go, one day.

[@user-sm1eu1sl1r]

well Kimberley, you can always stay in your cosy living room for the rest of your life. I personally love airs'n'b and will use their hosting as long as I possibly could. and hate your neighbours that will bring some satisfaction in your life. will also damage your liver but hey what the heck.

[@thxnsry]

Why don't I see this much backlash in places Bangkok, Thailand or Bali, Indonesia?

[@keithpalmer1843]

A suggestion would be to make the best of what comes to you and how to use it to feed other industries in a industrious innovative way that sets out long term goals for future growth of your countries. Tourism can be a positive use as a utility to teach and inform human beings to connect spiritually through cultures and the land sceneries hopefully developing more humility towards the earth and one another. Visitors should spread out there visits through a country and not to just go to the most popular reviewed destinations but be more adventurous with planned safety protocols in their travels.

[@ACJando]

I'm still travelling everywhere!

[@shareika]

They need to make laws to restrict mass-tourism, increase affordable housing, support environmental tourism (farm stays, conservational projects), ban cheap plastics, educate the public constantly (on conservation and respectful behaviour), and make quality offers in order to attract quality people.

[@JR-gh8lp]

As a tourist I agree with the Canarians.

[@DownwardElevator]

What's interesting about these protests is that it's only the people who don't depend on tourism for their livelihood. I'm sure those who depend on tourism are not protesting. It's the job of their governments to strike the right balance. Personally, I like to travel, and I will not visit any place that has these protests. I want to travel to where I feel welcomed. This is one more thing that "influencers" are ruining for everyone though. They are the most annoying tourists.

[@pomperidus]

I would not blindly trust the market to solve the problem itself, but I would be interested in knowing if it was ever observed somewhere that a place become so overpriced, overcrowded with tourists and unattractive to the locals, that for these reasons tourists themselves stopped being so attracted to it and demand “naturally” decreased.

[@user-kh8mv2be8t]

The problem is caused by the rise of low cost airlines and cruise ships. Go and watch travel videos and you see that a huge number of them are dedicating a lot of time to show people how to spend as little as possible. When a small number of people are spending large amounts of money it is great for the economy and the impact is barely noticeable. When you have thousands of people arriving, spending almost nothing, the upside is gone and downside is massive.

[@Zzzooooppp]

Germans when talking about too many Europeans going somewhere, spending money, and leaving 😡 Germans when talking about too many Non-europeans going somewhere, disturbing the local way of life, breaking social cohesion 🙈

[@lucieciepka1031]

I don’t see how this could be managed the soft way.

[@TheBearAspirin]

Sadly, on the other side of the globe, Hawaii, Japan, and Tahiti are suffering the same thing.

[@urimtefiki226]

I need desparately a vacation.

[@frankyymilkyy9001]

You won't find it here 😄

[@dlewis8405]

Just institute a tax on hotels and Airbnb rentals. Market economics will do the rest.

[@jstone247]

This is happening in tourist spots all over the world. Actual citizens living in towns are being priced out of affordable accommodation by wealthier transients. A tourist "experience" is deemed more important than ordinary residents rights. Increase taxes for tourists, so more homes, roads can be built.

[@frankyymilkyy9001]

Why do you think that it's tourists make shop owners to re-organize their former businesses to selling souvenirs? Isn't it that the shop owners want more money and that's the reason why they re-organize? Tourists can't make locals to re-organize, they just consume what's suggested and pay more than average.

[@jerrymylove1754]

Thailand is becoming the same way. Lot of hostility towards tourists. Especially, if you’re a westerner.

[@makak11]

easy sollution just raise prices , double or triple

[@ninjesus4079]

yeah so only the rich will be able to travel, great idea

[@Jabarten]

This all arose from the popularity of Air BnBs...I feel it down here in Florida, minutes away from the Beaches of Pinellas Co. Long term rentals are getting squeezed out by Air BnBs..why would a landlord have someone rent long term for say $1500/mo for a 2 bd. 2 bath., when you can rent it for that much for a week on Air BnB! $1500/wk. beats out $1500/mo every time. Rentals are geting pricier and pricier, same with home sales. And the population of this county is now decreasing. No one can afford to live here on minimum wage jobs.....have to move away...glad my place is owned...just my views...

[@withgrowinginsanity198]

Without tourism the island is nothing

[@SteveI-fg5qt]

I'll never understand the impulse to travel in hordes. You can have fantastic travel experiences by just going a bit off the beaten track.

[@DTF-eh3xi]

Limit tourists coming in by giving quotas of how many people can come each season. Not based on race or countries of course.