European migration? How a continent is sealing itself off | DW Documentary

[@tamoc2354]

The purpose of refugee conventions is to save lives temporarily, not for permanent immiggration.

[@tamoc2354]

If democracy does not work, then stop preaching it.

[@tomaccino]

Ok but is that what it says in the law? Which line? The law matters, not anyone's opinion.

[@Hathur]

​@@realqualia7175 Sigh.. no. You are mistaking immigrants with refugees.. the two are VERY different. I say this as an immigration case worker. Let me briefly explain how it works, from the perspective of an immigration case worker that helps newly accepted IMMIGRANTS into my country of Canada. A typical application process for immigration here (and much of the western world) takes 9 to 11 years before someone is granted full citizenship. This isn't because the system is slow and inefficient (though that plays a small role.. but not why it takes 10 years).. it is because the country builds CENSUS data over time. We calculate approximately how many people are applying for citizenship in a given year... then we calculate how much HOUSING the nation currently can provide... how many HOSPITALS we have... how many DOCTORS we have... how much social assistance we can provide.. etc... we then use that data to make long-term forcasts about 10 years down the line and say: "We have _____ number of immigrants expected by 2034... We have _____ number of housing available today in 2024... We have _____ number of doctors and hospitals to take care of our people today in 2024.... In 2034 we will need _____ number of houses and hospitals and doctors to ensure all the new immigrants we accept have adequate homes and medical care." It takes TIME to build housing and essential facilities like hospitals. That's why we have immigration laws, to allow the country TIME to build for the future immigrants (and domestic growth of citizens), because you cannot snap your fingers and magically conjure new houses on the spot for people to live in. Refugees BREAK the system when there are too many of them. Suddenly you have 10x the number of people flooding into your country than what your predicted regular immigration census data planned for... which means now there is a shortage of housing, hospitals, etc... which drives up the cost of homes and living for EVERYONE, making the lives of citizens even harder, and the lives of immigrants or refugees impossible when a home costs 4x more than it should because the nation needs 20+ years to build enough homes for all the new people.

[@luv22119]

@@realqualia7175 that was before such laws were invented. Try again.

[@danielfarmer62]

@realqualia7175 life saving is retoric arguments, but not reason for majority to emigrate. They want better life at the expense of locals. It is not fair in addition that emigrants are not invited

[@johnhamond6379]

Most of these guys are economic migrants, not refugees

[@davidd.c.9344]

DW News seems to omit that little fact on every report.

[@Big.Bad.Wolfie]

Sunt teroristi, nu refugiati economic.

[@wincentywiewiorczak4114]

The third world irresponsibly produces bandits and beggars and sends them to Europe, which also does not have unlimited resources. I don't understand why the media supports this. It's suicide.

[@codejunkes4607]

If we stop migrating and return to our place of origin, we will all have to move to Africa.

[@wincentywiewiorczak4114]

@@codejunkes4607 We dont need people who are not tolerant. There are plenty of religious imperialists in Third world which want to spread islam in free world. We must stop them.

[@1ForTheShieldz]

Eu for the Europeans. Dont turn away from your citizens who need you. These people are not runnijg from war. They are NOT WANTED

[@AllHope23]

We can agree if your politicians aren't US lapdogs supporting wars in Africa and the middle east.

[@msjapan112]

No muslims, no Africans. Get real, Europeans. You got to be more direct than being nice.

[@emptyhad2571]

So North Americans can come?

[@PGN1967]

​@@emptyhad2571 Absolutely not!

[@denmark2680]

@@emptyhad2571 Yes because they are not causing problems to the Europeans, they adapt and fit in to our society and culture which the people from the Middle East and Africa doesn’t….

[@RazorMouth]

North Americans are Europeans 😂😂😂 Seriously do you not understand that? ​@@emptyhad2571

[@rikirex2162]

nice did no help

[@stjepankovacic5956]

Birth control is solution in those countries.

[@BrinJay-s4v]

That's were the west came in in the 60's. Now we are told we need immigration what ever we think or say.

[@gryphons22]

Someone needs to tell them that pulling out isnt effective lol

[@devincampbell5007]

@@gryphons22Castration and total hysterectomies >>>> all other methods

[@MiSt3300]

I am an EU citizen and I demand that our politicians SHUT THE BORDERS for good. Not a single illegal person who doesn't want to assimilate into our society will be let in!

[@henrik1743]

Swede here. Agreed

[@loislewis5229]

American here. Agreed, not only for America but for the Europe I know and love.

[@irokpe6977]

I am a Nigerian and I 100% agree. Block them. There should be no room for guests who doesn't respect you.

[@BinaryBlueBull]

​@@loislewis5229 That love is mutual, both for the country and even more so for its people. Traveled around parts of the US four times so far, each time between one and two months. I have memories that will stay with my until the end and that make me smile every time they cross my mind. I love how outgoing and forward (in general, it varies quite a bit between regions of course, as in Europe) a lot of Americans are. Where I live in Europe this is much less so, which is fine and has advantages but I like the American social mindset quite a bit more. Second day of my very first trip over there I found myself at the dinner table of a married couple, random strangers, just because I said hello and they noticed we were European. Far from the only time that something like that happened either, the amount of people who came up to us just to say "hi" and talk for a bit was staggering. There are many more aspects that I love about it (the diversity of your nature and landscapes for instance, oh my word...) just the one that stuck with me the most. I need to go back there, soon....

[@loislewis5229]

@@BinaryBlueBull I’m glad you had such a wonderful experience traveling through America. I too had a similar experience backpacking through Europe the summer of 1971. The end of my trip was the Oktoberfest 🍺 That experience shaped my life and world view tremendously and I look back fondly. So much so, that my 3 children have been there. 👋 from California

[@btbshk]

Sealing off? Where? Have you seen what London or Paris looks like now? They are not European cities anymore.

[@bitGbit]

They are still European, but to the fascist colour is something hard to understand is like they're dealing with mathematical equations

[@bobby5678-ck2tc]

@@bitGbit Europeans are people who are white get over it already the color of our skin is not what we are talking about we are talking about of ethnic origins which comes downstream of our cultures and heritage and history people of color have only been here for the past 60 years before that they were less than 1% of the population and that's what we want to make it back into by force if necessary.

[@SuperEyesandEars]

@@bitGbit yeah there is still european in paris but now as the minority in their own country, irony.. am I right?

[@bitGbit]

@@SuperEyesandEars the whole world is changing it's globalization nothing is going stay the same that's just the nature of how humans are evolving and moving from one place to the other it's been like this for thousands of years. It's not going to stop for anyone.

[@PorciunculoMoreno]

Weird: This video is not available in Germany!

[@fer9-g3e]

There were 250 million people living in Africa in 1950. The expectation is that there will be 4 billion people in africa in 2100. If 1 million people move to Europe each year, this will not solve the poverty problem in Africa. The number of people living in poverty will only be bigger, and Europe will have a segregation problem.

[@briopalumpus8676]

the only solution is for africa to become economicaly sovereign, its a cathc 22 situation for europe and even the us.

[@shrek769]

Not only would Africa's poverty problem go unsolved, it would create a new poverty problem in Europe.

[@giovannip8600]

Yes indeed, check the population growth in african countries, it's a cultural problem, they could have developed instead they quadrupled their populations and then beg on charities to help rescue them...

[@mensreus]

we are all livestock for the elites

[@shaaravguha3760]

@@giovannip8600 Well a lot of the problem is because of Europe. The old colonial empires just left africa to their own devices without considering to install a proper, uncorrupt government. Due to that africa has been unable to develop (with some clear exceptions, egypt for example who had a good government way before the decolonisation of the rest of africa developed quite well) Add on top of the neo-colonialism where western (and now chinese/russian/indian) companies basically bribe these corrupt governments into never developing and selling all of their valuable resources for cheap and you get economies that will never really escape poverty. (even nigeria, a country that should by all means be developing to a similar scale as a country like indonesia, can barely grow because all of their oil/resources is being mined by foreign companies and the corruption is only getting worse.)

[@PecosChico]

"European values abandoned in the desert." Oh, cry me a river.

[@JacobRashap]

Haha, yeah I almost died from cringe😂

[@numeprenume512]

I wonder if people of Africa would like to exchange continents with europeans... And if so, how do you think Europe and Africa would look like in 100 years from now? Are they going to be able to run the infrastructure of Europe? Do they think that all the "good" life in Europe comes for free? Should someone inform then about what it takes to live a good civilized life? Are they aware of all the restrictions and rules europeans have to follow in order to live a civilized life?

[@editfazekas3854]

Look at South Africa...

[@giuseppegiovani2748]

You just need to take a look at Zimbawe

[@lolaaaaa4583]

kind of easy to say this when europe is rich thanks to colonization ahah. So we just exploited the people, the lands, everything to develop and now we are saying no. So hypocrite.

[@numeprenume512]

@@lolaaaaa4583 i'm not sure you remember Genghis Khan, the Ottoman empire, the tatars and others...

[@Kosovar_Chicken]

They are not refugees!!!!!

[@Faris-nr4km]

Yes, European colonizers were

[@danielgospodinov5786]

@@Faris-nr4km May be you have better army? There is very good refugels videos from Bulgaria whit smashed criminals.

[@fitness7268]

There are different type of refugee, economic cause by climate change, political persecution and death treat

[@danielgospodinov5786]

@@fitness7268 They are not our problem!

[@rogerleonard5351]

​@@danielgospodinov5786100% correct, worry about citizens first and only.

[@ricardocosta-xy3ek]

Potential for what?...And where?... Here in Europe we strugle to make ends meet aswell, do these people think that money fall off the trees round here????... Because of this mass migration our rent prices have gone thru the roof and our lives became tougher...We need to stop this flow of people, no matter what!!!

[@Aurica34]

Someone or something sold them the idea that life in Europe is good. Human rights, morals etc etc...

[@madrilenoalameda4097]

And AirBnB has nothing to do with rent prices going up? Do you really live in a tent?

[@1921Mathew]

Clearly you know nothing about what "making ends meet" means in Acrica --- the continent that EUROPE ruined

[@bobby5678-ck2tc]

@@Aurica34 Yeah mostly russian and chinese propaganda they also fly them into their countries send them to our borders in huge waves to destavalize our countries in their military doctrine they call it weapanized migration.

[@maximenot2714]

In their countries they live on 50-100 euros per month. When they see European salaries, this is fantastic money for them. Their standard of living increases 100 times People from Eastern Europe also look to the EU as a springboard. For the same work in your home country you receive 300 dollars, and in the EU 2000 euros. (In Russia, for example, outside of Moscow, people live on $340. In Ukraine, people live on $300.) But in Africa everything is much worse.

[@patriciareis7758]

DW just miss again the point telling us what we are well aware of. Who are these people? Fleeing what? From which countries in Africa? What can Europe do for those countries so they do not produce waves of migrants? What can be offered to the camps so they can be productive and maybe self sustaining? Are there new experiences on refugee’s camps? What kind of illusion are these people seeking? Please, get serious on this theme. We do not need more clichés

[@InnocentKayumba-q4h]

Climate change effects are pushing political and social safety nets in the 'recieving States ' to their breaking points. Africans are being blamed for it, as though we invented the problem. This needs a better negotiation, not grants to governments for receiving environmental migrants. 🇿🇲💚💯

[@SeeLasSee]

We do have European values, and there is a lot that is good about them. It’s wrong though when business interests hijack the concept of values for their desires, namely cheaper labour and profitable extra contracts caring for these people.

[@deidradahl2802]

These reporters only want a '''good''' story, they will not ask the relevant questions.

[@stevenoscar5805]

Stop crying like this, Europe once have such history.

[@ceasar8679]

And the blame never goes to the corrupt govts of the immigrants countries. Growing Tired hearing of this points.

[@TheKristianSchmidt]

A follow up question always seems to be missing from these stories. “Taliban was mistreating my tribe, so I went through seven safe countries with similar cultures and labour markets to the one I know. I had to go through all those countries to get to Germany” The whole premise for the discussion is absolutely absurd.

[@tinasturgeon7087]

Taliban now help run the UN, great isn't it,

[@loukmanoulkadi7525]

Europe gets some of the refugees, there are like 7 million Afghans in Pakistan which isnt really a rich country, so obviously some will go further especially if the quality of life is so much better in Europe.

[@brianminder2561]

There for the "free money" and stuff.

[@johnwagner7154]

@@loukmanoulkadi7525but it’s not europes responsibility to take care of people who won’t assimilate into their country. There’s so many other countries out there in Asia and Africa yet they want Europe.

[@Rildar]

@@loukmanoulkadi7525 except Pakistan is miles more culturally closer to Afghanistan than a single European country

[@anderslarsen4912]

I'm poor in Europe so why would I endorse a situation where the competition for space, housing and jobs gets intensified as I get older. That said I would do the same in their situation. That does not however mean that Europe should not defend itself. I predict more conflict, violence drugs etc. in the coming years in Europe.

[@michaelmanningly8984]

THEY are the future ? ! ? Dream ? More like nightmare !

[@SlashHarkenUltra]

😋

[@glenyth4847]

This documentary seems so one-sided, designed mainly to elicit sympathy for African dreamers rather than spark problem-solving ideas to improve what has become a real and significant challenge in Europe. What is driving people from Africa? What is being done in Africa to improve life in Africa so that people can and want to stay there? It is so easy to blame Western countries for the sorrows of the world (this video is case-in-point) - I challenge DW to think harder about what and how to report.

[@valentineisraelshabangu4069]

This is a well designed and a very complex system in Africa we have puppet presidents who do anything being imposed by the West. If for example fortunes changed in Africa many Western multinational corporations will crush trust me.

[@Faris-nr4km]

So western countries were not the ones who colonized and looted these poor countries of every last bit of their resources, arts and cultures?

[@erenoz2910]

They are driven by the absurd and unsolvable levels of corruption in their countries. When African independence movements succeeded, they simply took charge of the same colonial power structures put in place by European states centuries prior. So instead of being saved from economic abuse, the people in Africa suffered the same abuse under local leadership. So basically, it is a combination of European colonialism and corrupt local leaders. This is what drives them away.

[@elizluv]

No they don’t want to think MGOs is a big industry of their own They get paid more than they help refugees. They love the smugglers.

[@ashwinipingle8832]

If one were to really solve the problem, then none of the western nations will be able to extract any African material resources and it means that your western countries will have to take a loss in new inventions and manufacturing the modern comforts of life which you cannot live without. You can't compete with china and Russia and mostly will eventually end up having to cut firewood to keep yourself warm. So instead of hardships, you are better off taking in all these people.

[@FuzzyV]

“And the losers are the migrants” - well, lady.. shouldn’t the priority be the people that already live in Europe? 😢

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

She is there just to push her agenda and NOTHING more. Those are the ENEMIES of Europe and Europeans.

[@henkvermeer8652]

A point wich is allways neglected.

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

They are the enemies of your and mine genetics dude and enemies of your and mine culture and history too.

[@JaELGo]

@@Just_another_Euro_dude 🤣 ✋🥸 is it 1945 again already?! lol

[@JVSwailesBoudicca]

Exactly so. We get "forgotten".

[@kitkatcats3360]

If DW staff and reporters offered their homes to migrants, this would be a sign they really cared. DW, you can do better.

[@carolechapman7857]

why don’t they put their skills into building up their own countries … Africa has resources!!!

[@kedaiboencit7351]

They went to europe because they arr dreaming of prosperity. But once they were settled in they want to change it back to where they came from. A system once made them suffered 😂😂

[@soundscape26]

They want to change it back?

[@dennykeaton9701]

Exactly

[@run4eva]

Well said

[@lanalee8634]

They are dreaming of welfare

[@LeahDyson-kq4bd]

America is headed that way too no offense I'm from NYC area we were built on immigrants but the further we move away from the northern European ways the worse it gets

[@sumitschitoll]

DW you should make documentary on how Europen citizens life has suffered due to uncontrolled immigration from their countries with paying thousands to smugglers and they what European dream when EU citizens life in big cities becoming nightmare, STOP over sympathy for there people and start to care for taxpayers and their life and society are destroyed by having to see this people in our neighborhoods

[@nuukizmir]

European companies should not recruit high skilled workers from China and India. These emerging economies are suffering from the brain drain crisis.

[@tomaccino]

They've already made such a video. Do you not know how to check their channel?

[@nimbo6576]

are the 2 mutually exclusive? if one cares for migrants and sees their lives as equal to the lives of a european can they not at the same time be sympathetic to the social ills sometimes caused by such migration. Your perspective seems however noit to regard migrants as equal in their lives to europeans.

[@Altnet89]

Recent information from Poland: One of the soldiers was supposed to fire warning shots at the border, since then all soldiers have been banned from using their weapons. Their weapon magazines were secured so that they can't shoot. And the soldier who did it was arrested by the MP. Yesterday died one of the guards that was injured by a migrant.

[@moodley1465]

​@@Altnet89 why do you have alot of polish immigrants in the uk and germany, tell your polish mob to leave, they are taking away German jobs

[@EnronnSierra]

My fear is the lack of assimilation. Many see Europe as an opportunity for personal gain: money, smartphones, fancy clothes, cars. Its not about, am I going integrate and help make this adopted home better?

[@egertroos-qh7hw]

Europe is for europeans only

[@lolaaaaa4583]

do u think that people risks their lives for fancy clothes??? Like please be aware of situations of country like somalia, nigeria, lybia where people are risking death if they are staying.

[@Rildar]

@@lolaaaaa4583 I do not care.

[@barexampasser]

LMAO EVEN THE TUNISIANS ARE FED UP😂😂😂. Europe, take notes!!!

[@dingus6317]

This is all happening because of the power vacuum of Gadaffi

[@darrinatorrr]

Zero benefits equals zero migration

[@mrwesleyrainrain]

Asylum should be stopped for economic migrants

[@Kim-J312]

Arrested at the border for illegal entry into a crime . Once the EU arrest them , jail them and deported back to country of origin. They arrest charge will prevent them from ever entering again . Arm your guards/ border agents

[@sonurejuven3209]

It should be stopped for colonised?

[@kopynd1]

should be stopped anyone invading a country with no I.D.

[@eviken1982]

Our governments must stop to give them benefits, everything for free. If they get nothing when they come here, they will not stay and eventually the boats will stop coming

[@Major_Himbo]

How can you test if they’re economic migrants or not? No one will know

[@John-kv2ec]

"we are the nation we are the future" - runs away from country

[@hourbee5535]

"Fortress Europe" sounds amazing.

[@mishzguafa]

I sympathise for those that are coming from The war, Ukraine, Afghan,etc., woman and children especially. but the one that coming from Africa .. are mostly are economic migrants looking for better opportunities which is very wrong. I have friend from Kenya, Nigeria and they are living good in their country. Same goes with Syrian, I know a Syrian people that even still come back to his home country for a holiday. EU definitely need to stop and be very firm with their immigration borders. Myself as a SEA tourist coming to EU for a holiday, it definitely feels weird to see that it doesn’t look like EU anymore.

[@luv22119]

Imagine if all these people stayed to improve their own countries. Not everyone in the world can move to the west. Resources are finite. Building a society they want should be the priority.

[@madrilenoalameda4097]

How can they improve their own countries when their land and resources are being used to serve European interests and industries (textiles, beer, etc) instead of growing crops to feed their people.

[@jackieblue1267]

@@madrilenoalameda4097 The corruption needs to be sorted and Africans have control of their own countries. It is now the Chinese who are investing in Africa. Europe has been out of Africa for decades.

[@ryanwalters6184]

​@@madrilenoalameda4097 fake news

[@onwardstovictoria7541]

Fair, but I don't think there's much you can do as a woman with two children against the Taliban. Some problems just seem insurmountable; I would migrate, too

[@domdom6624]

@@onwardstovictoria7541 Just have more firepower by any means possible. Whether that involves a million people who share your views or better weapons.

[@phutilanga2047]

I have refused and will continue to refuse to leave Africa!! To be devalued and seen as a sort of cockroach infestation in foreign lands. WE THE YOUTH WILL IMPROVE THIS CONTINENT.

[@valentineisraelshabangu4069]

😂😂😂bro these things are Engineered by Europeans and most migrants are middle Eastern,somalians, etc

[@margauxkol8124]

And your attitude is right. Kudos to you. Stay and improve your country cause that's your home.

[@guusgeluk3693]

Huge respect for that. Hope it gets better soon. Africa has lots of potential.

[@AmandaQuincey-xy2kn]

That’s a shame that more people are not proud and stay where they’re from and get their economy better for their country than paying thousands to go to Europe

[@Daniebraids]

You are right

[@TheKing75691]

If he got so much potential, why can’t solve the issues in his own country

[@Pou1gie1]

I wish the Europeans who came to the Americas, Canada, Australia, etc. had felt the same way and stayed where they were, so as not to trouble the indigenous ppls

[@TheKing75691]

@@Pou1gie1 Those people actually created some real change not just came on to someone show us looking for a f****** job

[@Godfrey544]

@@Pou1gie1 but they then started a space program and advanced humanity as a whole.

[@elizluv]

@@Godfrey544right! And assimilated and integrated as well.

[@tynubernard]

Cheap labour is not the way forward for Europe, because you can’t produce cheap things like China if you have regulations. In China a 14 year old can work with no restrictions in Europe no . Europe need skilled workers that come legally. Europe must produce high tech things.

[@HelenEk7]

I read a news article yesterday about a man that lived for a few years during his childhood in Norway, before his family moved back to Iraq. He is now an adult and came to Norway to apply for a living permit, which was denied. Because he has no family here, and no other connection than having spent a bit of his childhood here. And he safely lived in Iraq where he has a factory job, but was still poor. But being poor wont give you asylum in any country. Wealthy countries can receive all poor people that wants to move. The math doesnt add up. So denying him living permit was absolutely the right thing to do. Rather help people who are actually in need of asylum, but even then you have to do it in a sustainable way.

[@Sunshine-un5ww]

I feel for them but pass through so many countries. You are not wanted in Europe build a life there

[@renewklear]

My thoughts exactly, they are determined to get to “western” Europe and skip over perfectly other good places along the way. Just find the first nice place you find and go from there, no one in western europe wants anymore of them.

[@cecillyrowe6339]

try one of those many countries!!!

[@malsietah9403]

No more! Go home!

[@tedcrilly46]

Go to Nairobi, Addis Ababa. Go to Lagos. Abuja. Kinshasa. Go to Jo'burg. Capetown. All big modern cities.

[@Pou1gie1]

I wish the Europeans who came to the Americas, Canada, Australia, etc. had felt the same way and stayed where they were, so as not to trouble the indigenous ppls

[@malsietah9403]

@@Pou1gie1 self-hating woke leftist?

[@tedcrilly46]

@@Pou1gie1 read about the carthaginians, the caliphates, the huns, the mongols. The ottomans.

[@theoldgods8229]

@@Pou1gie1 trouble the indigenous people? The smaller minority tribes welcomed the Europeans and convinced them to fight the Aztecs who were brutalizing tehm... In 1487, the great Templo Mayor was dedicated in the main Aztec city of Tenochtitlan with a four-day celebration. How many were sacrificed during that time is a subject of scholarly speculation: some put the figure as low as 10,000 or 20,000, several others put it as high as 80,400 people sacrificed during those four days. Scholars think the Aztec priests used four sacrificial altars for the dedication ceremonies. However, if that’s the case and 80,400 people were killed, then the priests would have had to sacrifice 14 people every minute, which is a physical impossibility. This was the reality of human sacrifices.

[@Oldguard_8]

They are neighter refugees nor migrants. There are no major wars occurring. The same countries are not fixing themselves.

[@Microphunktv-jb3kj]

"Fortress Europe" is the future.

[@soundscape26]

There are no major wars occurring??

[@christchaik8317]

He's a political refugee on the basis that he would be persecuted back home due to his sexual orientation. He would be an asset to Europe. They *should* be processed and those not eligible should just be turned away.

[@maximenot2714]

Ukrainian-Russian war. A very big war. Especially for Europe, after the Second World War. And in terms of the number of victims per quarter, it is ahead of the Iran-Iraq War, the Iraq War and other conflicts.

[@lemonade_ib]

You're uneducated that's why you're saying there are no major wars, so what's happening in Sudan?

[@daniellybaert1958]

No food no money and making baby's making baby's

[@MariaAlmeida-u8l]

And abandoning them, as they were planning an “orphanage” for the children left by their parents that made to Europe.

[@wawrzynieckorzen78]

If they want to go to Europe they should visit an embassy and apply for visa. It is much simpler than risking your life in crossing a desert and sea.

[@e.t.291]

Those migrants have better phones than me, and I'm European 😂 These people are just looking to upgrade their lives, not escape from deadly conditions. Europe has no responsibility to take care of them.

[@W_Bin]

You deserve to exchange places with them. Then you will have a better phone.

[@colinlock-lv9vv]

you are absolutley 100% right

[@lolaaaaa4583]

kind of easy to say this when europe is rich thanks to colonization ahah. So we just exploited the people, the lands, everything to develop and now we are saying no. So hypocrite.

[@e.t.291]

@@lolaaaaa4583 If by Europe you mean Western Europe then yes. Eastern Europe has been a victim of colonization, but moralizers like to forget that detail.

[@JOHN----DOE]

"We move because we have potential in us." To do what, exactly?

[@soundscape26]

Well, construction for a start. It already is that way anyway.

[@finance485]

Potential to take your tax dollars?

[@christos1917]

Live gang life,same they see in US,so demand free houses,pocket money and women from EU bureaucrats

[@ember1471]

@@soundscape26 then they should construct their own countries and protests against their corrupt governments.

[@MariaAlmeida-u8l]

Potential to overpopulate Europe

[@Altnet89]

Recent information from Poland: One of the soldiers was supposed to fire warning shots at the border, since then all soldiers have been banned from using their weapons. Their weapon magazines were secured so that they can't shoot. And the soldier who did it was arrested by the MP. Yesterday died one of the guards that was injured by a migrant.

[@colinlock-lv9vv]

well a solider was killed in britain as well by muslim .the soliders name is lee rigby.

[@TadejDV]

Crazy! :/

[@Dropthesoapto]

Now under the ideological orders of Brussels. Tusk has happened to Poland. Are you happy youngsters that vote him in?

[@botshelomoatshe3153]

Neopleon murdered 10 million

[@frank-hd6ts]

If these people are the future, why don`t they make a future for themselves in Africa. It is a big continent. There are 59 states in Africa that they can choose from. There are also many Arab nations that they can choose to move to. The people of Europe have had enough of all the lies and trouble these people bring with them.

[@olivierdidonna1662]

If Africans and Europeans would swap continents .. how long would it take for africans to want to come back .. ??

[@animalmother4]

Deport now

[@Sensitive_info]

Until you tell your leaders to stop funding wars to Africa, you will always have refugees. What did you expect when France led a war in Libya in the name of Democracy? None of you protested.

[@tomaccino]

Can't deport them. Who will work on construction sites? It won't be Hans, he's receiving welfare and watching his favorite Twitch streamer all day long. You need Ibrahims and Kwabenas to sustain your economy!

[@agnescraig2912]

The countries refuse to take back its citizens something no lawmakers in the West will acknowledge. Only way is to stop other visas in exchange for illegals like Trump did with criminals from a Far Eastern country.

[@subcitizen2012]

Agreed. You included.

[@arcabuz]

@@subcitizen2012were millions supporting his idea. So it is most likely you being deported. Or even ended in a ditch

[@richardduplessis1090]

It is now time for the concept of "Fortress Europe" to emerge, where it's borders are sealed from unwanted migration.

[@samiulhaque3338]

are you sure you dont want free slaves?

[@tomaccino]

But you still need migrants, it's not like native Europeans are lining up to do hard construction work to build these walls and fortresses 😂

[@othellox1064]

@@tomaccino we have machines for that lol

[@richardduplessis1090]

@@tomaccino Things can change and be made to change. Just because you hire someone to build a house doesn't mean they have a right to live in it and get to own it.

[@Bukkawarnis]

@@tomaccinoBut these positions can be covered by legal migrants and actual refugees. Also construction jobs often require either vocational education or experience so it is very naive to expect illegal immigration could cover any skilled workforce shortages. It is easier and more reliable to get temporary workers from abroad via agencies.

[@MVUK358]

You mean, like all other continents seal themselves off ? 🤔 Actually, in the wide majority of countries on this planet, migration policies are VERY restrictive. Europe has been an exception - too generous and for too long. Now the negative effects are showing. Migration is a privilege, not a right.

[@michaelwang6125]

>___< Gotta leave it to Putin and ... even Beijing to exploit the weakness of democracy and fair society. Even America's stance on "trust - evidence before a conviction" had become "verify before trust"... after too many abused the system and the negative effect had cost countless lives.

[@onwardstovictoria7541]

Well very few countries have such an awful history of colonization and exploration as Europe. Poverty in a lot of places in Africa has roots in European colonization. Maybe this is their way of atoning for past mistakes? Countries like Germany have an entrenched culture of repentance after ww2, so "okay, we f**d up with the holocust and we f**d up with the DRC, let's help syria now"? I can't tell you that it's right, just that they're probably trying their best to learn from the past.

[@prolarka]

They get what they paid for. That is immigrants.

[@carlislebailey8902]

🇪🇺🔹🐘🔹

[@YaSunny0409]

Arguably the US border is more open. It doesn’t have as bad a migrant crisis because majority of its illegal migrants hold similar Christian values. Even so, mass migration has caused strain in resources and pressure on low skill workers.

[@LanielPhoto]

The first duties of any government is to protect its people, its culture, its traditions and even its religions.

[@behemoth2273]

The water they are drinking "Why not throw trash in it" - "the water gives us headaches"... OK. You are too unthoughtful to be in Europe.

[@imcbocian]

Who told you that helping migrants is european value? Since when? What a bs is that. There is a reason why we settled a law which say that asylum seekers have right to do so in FIRST SAFE COUNTRY. Not to cross half Africa!

[@lolaaaaa4583]

kind of easy to say this when europe is rich thanks to colonization ahah. So we just exploited the people, the lands, everything to develop and now we are saying no. So hypocrite.

[@imcbocian]

@lolaaaaa4583 7 european nations had overseas colonies. 2 had their colonies in europe. Maybe 6 nations in europe were free and had nothing to do with colonies. But most of them were colonized themselves, some of which still are, to this day. Kind of easy to blame your wretchedness and failures on colonization, huh? And don't forget that some of the richest countries today are those that were once colonies. Only Africans still blame colonization. And they will still be there for the next few thousand years if they fail to change anything.

[@janmarispiper3771]

So sad. I don't know what make them think Europe is a better place for them. They think anyone make it , the government will give housing, money but they don't realise people are suffering here. Housing crisis, high inflation, .... . They should rise and make change in their own country.

[@rigbyrigbone5407]

They try but somehow the Europeans and their allies always interfere.

[@maximenot2714]

benefits in Europe for them are like 10 salaries per month. You just have to work at home, but here you just get paid. Maybe the EU should be like the US and not pay anyone? Because African and Middle Eastern migrants don't just go to the EU. They go where there is the greatest benefit. Ask how many of them want to live in Romania? If you ask them, they all want to go to Germany, and not be hunchbacked in the fields of farmers in Eastern Europe.

[@Faris-nr4km]

Oh, Europe is suffering as well? I think the resources looted form colonizing these poor countries had to start running low at some point

[@maximenot2714]

@@Faris-nr4km And I’m from Eastern Europe, we didn’t have any colonies. Therefore, these are not our problems. Many colonies live very richly. For example, in Asia. And we know a very rich US colony.

[@startarot5876]

​@maximenot2714 💯 Right Eastern Europeans didn't colonise..

[@bersinrooder143]

The absolute irony of Ylva Johansson talking about European values whilst being a former member of the swedish communist youth is insane

[@HVS-gk7oo]

You never did stupid choices in your youth? People evolve with age.

[@henrik1743]

She is horrible

[@peterp4037]

50k migrants entering the Canaries last year alone. But as you can see DW don't say a word about it.

[@AngelSonevski]

Well communism is a European ideology

[@MVUK358]

@@peterp4037 And interestingly in DW News whenever their reporters interview African migrants who arrive in Italian, Greek or Spanish islands on boats, their answers are always the same - "I want a good job", "I want a better life for my family", "No opportunities in my country". The big majority are economic migrants. But then they will apply for asylum, making up stories, to see if they can stay!

[@suprauro]

The point is that they weren't able to manage their own countries after independence, now their countries are ruined.

[@PamelaAttwood]

So true, some of these African countries were independent since the 1950s and 1960s. Also many have natural resources and productive land. They spent their money on the Military and some of their leaders were wrongly seen as Freedom Fighters when they were corrupt con-artists.

[@flicksbyhans]

I am a guest in the UK and am privilleged enough to leave when I am done studying. From what I can see, the UK has its own problems. Migration is a frustrating issue because it distracts from the real day to day issues. I imagine this is the same in Europe. I can't say immigration is bad or good but surly Europe cannot continue to accept them. It will be the undoing of the Union. Look what has happened with Brexit.

[@0ptic0p22]

I DONT WANT TO BE RIGHT OR TO BE WRONG I WANT *MY* BORDERS TO BE *CLOSED*

[@DWDocumentary]

Hi, we encourage discussion on all our documentary topics, but we kindly ask our viewers to please remain respectful and stick to our netiquette policy: p.dw.com/p/MF1G

[@acetylcoa9324]

@@DWDocumentary what is disrespectful about wanting borders closed?

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@DWDocumentary He sounded polite.

[@bigmememan748]

​​@@acetylcoa9324because it would actually solve the problem and some people don't want that ahah

[@JoshEdmondsTheSophisticated]

⁠@@DWDocumentary🤡🫵

[@gerhughes6854]

iPhones and the best of clothes, Europe is full, Build up your own countries have some pride

[@Pou1gie1]

I wish the Europeans who came to the Americas, Canada, Australia, etc. had felt the same way and stayed where they were, so as not to trouble the indigenous ppls

[@maximenot2714]

@@Pou1gie1 This was hundreds of years ago. This is history. Well, if we compare it with the emigration of Europeans of that time, then Africans should come to Europe with weapons and an army and then create colonies there. You compare conquest and land grabs to migration. Or do you think the Indians themselves settled the Europeans?

[@trevormcdonald385]

@@maximenot2714that’s cope on your behalf because empire and colonies are a thing of the past now. So this slow drain is fair game. Don’t complain now.

[@zainzoala1083]

😂😂😂 People like you turn blind eye of who is destroying their countries.

[@dingus6317]

@@trevormcdonald385 So would you complain if the "empires" came back and fully curbstomped the natives instead of giving them reservations and government handout money?

[@Osk5r67]

North Africans complaining about migrants who are violent and not respecting their values is so ironic 😂

[@Dorr234]

agreed lol

[@tedcrilly46]

They must be far right.

[@canelo1728]

Not ironic in any way. They need to defend their borders as this will also save europe.

[@tedcrilly46]

@@canelo1728 yes. Europes defense starts in n. Africa. We must use both carrot and stick. Europe also needs production. And n. Africa needs investment. Both can benefit.

[@joaoamaral7818]

North Africans don’t miss an opportunity to migrate to Europe. The way the refugees were treated in Tunisia made me realise that Christian countries do a lot more for humans than Muslim countries!!!

[@cheersmodreams691]

Once again, a very thorough doc from DW. I've always thought Europe's immigration problem would be far worse than our problem. As an American living in the border state of Arizona, it seems to me Immigrants trying to get into Europe have it far worse than those trying to come through our southern border.

[@Truthtellerhere666]

The only reason is the Mediterranean Sea, which protects Europe.

[@dangercat9188]

Because us hispanics have similar culture to white folks or anglo saxons whatever. We're Christians, we like to drink, we have traditional values, our women don't have to cover up entirely, family is important, etc. But, the reason for this is because many of us have European blood, hence the reason why we even speak spanish in the first place.

[@andyx7488]

European values should prioritise its people first

[@mohameddawood97]

It's not worth it!!! I'm aware of life hardships and extreme conditions of poverty, etc,etc.....but this is uncalled for!! And some Africans need to have dignity, I can't blame Europeans for being upset, because all countries are already dealing with economic hardships! Unless there's a war tearing your country apart please don't humiliate yourself and have some dignity!!

[@flippe555]

That migrants go through these conditions is horrible, however they could choose to improve their own country or to go to just a neighbouring country instead of crossing the whole of Africa. They absolutely all want to come to Europe but this is simply not possible. There is not enough space and no appetite from the existing population to have so many people with totally different cultures and values settling here.

[@RopekingRopethemall]

It's called colonization

[@mtoghana4469]

The choice is an individual struggle. For them to improve the conditions of their country, it requires collective action from the populace to ensure the leaders ( the only ones with power) do their jobs. Now in Africa most of the masses are enslaved by religion and lack of education and so they are asleep to the idea that they can and should come together and demand more from their corrupt leaders. So then, as an individual you have a choice to make. Go through the horrible migration conditions to have a chance of a better future or stay in Africa and suffer with no hope at all for the future.

[@flippe555]

@@mtoghana4469 You have a good point, of course, from individual standpoint it makes sense to risk it for at least a chance on a better future which is understandable. The moment is now though for the African people to ´wake up´ and and build a better Africa. The European dream is often a dissapointment as well and as Europeans are losing their patience less and less of a solution. It´s easily said and I wouldn´t know how to start, but the African people need to get organized and create a better future in their home countries.

[@carlosacta8726]

Again, the critical question no one in Brussels appears to be addressing is, why?? Why are all of these people fleeing in such massive numbers?? Why doesn't the EU/NATO really do something useful for once!??

[@dayne9559]

​@@carlosacta8726The why's that no one wants to answer.

[@goodphone156]

You not have right to entry in Europe!!

[@JamaaJamaa-sp7po]

You have no right entry Africa

[@JaELGo]

Apparently, you not have right to use English language correctly XD

[@dingus6317]

@@JamaaJamaa-sp7po No one wants to go there anyway really except for maybe tourists who want to see the pyramids in Giza

[@kark2422]

@@JamaaJamaa-sp7po Never even planned to do so.

[@eviken1982]

​@@JamaaJamaa-sp7poWell I am from Europe and I don't have any interest in going to Africa.

[@user-bv3lr3en2q]

Nah bro, we need a documentary about all the crimes migrants do after immigrating to eu or na

[@angelawhitehead6187]

I was gonna visit Tunisia. Changed my mind. I am European. All should stay in own countries.

[@USA50_]

Where are the documentaries about individuals who come legally and prepared? ... This is misinformation

[@zen1647]

Just enforce immigration laws. And help border states to enforce their outer borders too.

[@dion789]

I've always been leftist and voted left again today. But the overpopulation and tension in the Netherlands is taking its toll on many people, including me. Being packed so tightly together is hard enough on everyone's tempers, but when you're stuck with people who don't respect women's rights or other values we hold dear it becomes impossible. Africa is huge, far larger than it appears on maps because of the distortion, with tons of countries they can go to. I fully support neighbouring countries supporting each other with migration as we would do with our neighbours and they with us, not waves and waves of people coming from a different continent. Cooperation is important and some immigrants belong here, but the vast majority should not be here.

[@gaiagba]

I see the problem but the solution doesnt get me prestige so i will continue to vote for the problem parties.

[@henrik1743]

Yep as a swede we have the same problem for 10+ years

[@Lala-up3ib]

Keep voting for it. Sounds kind of stupid to keep voting for it knowingly. Yikes. May God keep you safe and bless you always

[@jacques.cousteau]

So why tf are you still voting for the left?? If you correctly identify this as a problem why do you keep voting for the people who don't want to fix the problem? It doesn't make any sense

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Don't forget to vote on Sunday.! Send a message to the establishment politicians who have betrayed their own citizens ...!!

[@nessymejah8888]

I come from Kenya, we have little to none illegal immigration abroad. Majority of us are comfortable at home. Personally, if i come to Europe it's either for further studies or tourism. Dont group us. Africa has 58 countries.

[@BinaryBlueBull]

You are right in saying that. Africa is a very diverse continent with huge differences between the countries or even between areas within the same country. The same goes for Europe though, while here in the comments everyone is also saying "Europe should accept...." or "Europe is responsible for..." or "Europe has done....". We are lumped in together as well, while there are enormous differences between European countries. But I do see your point. It isn't cool to be associated with things or people with which you have nothing to do. I will try to remember that also. I hope when you come to Europe you will have a good time. A tip for you: the Netherlands is an amazing country to go study in as a foreigner. I live in Germany but the Netherlands is better for foreign exchange students. Greetings from Germany, to you in Kenya.

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

Don't worry. We all recognize north Africans, Morroco, Tunisia, Algeria, and Nigerians plus the Asian Pakistani as the biggest problem. Kenya is not a problem what so ever.

[@hakeemhakeem7696]

You mean 54 countries

[@nessymejah8888]

​@@hakeemhakeem7696Well, if you count only the UN recognised countries. If you include unrecognised countries like Western Sahara, Reunion, Mayotte, Somaliland, it brings the number to 58

[@bellaolum9768]

Thank you, I couldn't agree more with this comment. Majority of us are not illegal immigrants in any of those countries!

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

Our ancestors were physically eliminating ANY threat at our borders. For hundreds and even thousands of years. We wouldn't look European and we wouldn't be who we are today if our ancestors didn't do their DUTY properly! Now majority of the Europeans will start to do their duty properly again. And no one can stop that wave.

[@Native0123]

I don’t blame them for not wanting more immigrants. The Europeans received thousands of immigrants. The USA received half of the amount of immigrants and don’t have enough resources to help them. I can only imagine how bad it is in Europe.

[@brunok1028]

It's pity to look at local residents suffering around EU, when there is forced mixed population with migrants.

[@SuperEyesandEars]

so to peoples who said that europe should help all of those peoples, I have questions for you why the richest country on earth like qatar, saudi arabia, UEA, etc not helping all these peoples?.... IMO we have to admit that we ourself cannot help too many peoples, let alone to help the whole peoples of another countries, right?... these peoples have to fight for their own country it is not inhuman its just being realistic...

[@sema7197]

Ehat about the rights of the citizens of the country's getting invaded? Illegal inmigration is not acceptable, their governments are responsible!

[@adaslesniak]

Citizens and democracy doesn't matter. Human rights of people who can't get their home in order are more important.

[@philipwood9526]

If its so bad stay at home.

[@alexmintz7786]

You ALWAYS forget to add one critical word: ILLEGAL migration. Maybe you don't see any difference between legal and illegal migration?

[@jarede.789]

Protect your culture border and the future of your children at all cost

[@drewbranch7700]

Meanwhile,my country has a high influx of migrants at our US borders from Latin American countries and other nations.

[@stevenobinator2229]

Better title "saving itself from replacement and violence"

[@JaELGo]

exactly, bc Europe is historically known for being the most peaceful and homogenous region in the world! XD No wars or acts of violence where ever comitted by the nice upright and morally surperior europeans 🤣 give me a break

[@NicolasHaufe]

​@@JaELGowho invented democracy? who ended s!Avery?

[@JaELGo]

@@NicolasHaufe I'm pretty sure it's not you 😅

[@editfazekas3854]

@@JaELGo Yep, it was his great grandfather.

[@lukemurray4950]

No other country accepts this but look how they word it to make it seem like we shouldn't.

[@TomNook.]

That's not true. Most western countries accept this.

[@MVUK358]

@@TomNook. Not true!! The only countries in the world who have been generous are Western EU countries + USA. Go try to enter illegally in Mexico, Brazil, etc, and ask for asylum -- they will put you in jail, or reject most applications. And in Asian and African countries, migration is extremely restricted.

[@lukemurray4950]

@@TomNook. That's what I am saying. Only the West accepts thus nobody else does but yet we are made out that we must do it.

[@jamstagerable]

​​​​​@@TomNook. Not a single 'Eastern' nation allows such unfeathered immigration. The negative repercussions of such have become all too apparent inside Europe, Canada and the U.S. to where even the politicians that have pushed for and allowed it to become so disruptive to society and systematically unmanageable have been forced to take notice.

[@gloriaf6971]

The USA is accepting thousands of immigrants from South America, Central America, and Mexico.

[@prashant4598]

Just to clear one thing, calling a person african or black is not racist

[@spanishmasterpieces5203]

Its not about a fortress itsabout our culture and country.

[@remyborst7686]

Rich people who make these documentaries don't have to deal with these """"refugees"""". For them it is far from their bed and home and the poor have to deal with their good intentions.

[@BinaryBlueBull]

That is exactly the issue, indeed. And not only rich people but the (also rich) politicians making these decisions as well. No wonder that they think that their decision opening the borders to anyone that wants to come is totally fine and the issues are just edge cases, when they life in a villa in a wealthy neighbourhood and surrounded by a wall, have a driver who drives them everywhere, an assistant to get their groceries and their kids go to expensive private schools. They never encounter the people they let in who are causing all these issues. It will only change (too late) when they, too are confronted with the consequences in real life. Sadly, by then it will have gotten so bad as to destabilize society itself. I don't see this ending well

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

I put it to you that you are a “””rich””” person to these “””refugees””” and you do not have to deal with multinationals sponsoring the pillaging of minerals in your country, or dealing with a oligopoly underpaying for cocoa. But you are partially right, the real rich don’t have to deal with it. But l hope you also realize that these are symptoms of something that may have its roots in those same rich people and those rich people are definitely not Afrikan.

[@farsalami8605]

@@BatsiraiMusuka don't make thieves your leaders then....right? Multinationals don't pillage..... africans are pillaging africans. Why?

[@Denussy]

@@BatsiraiMusuka yes we are dealing with multinationals pillaging our countries and oligopolies corrupting everything. Almost everyone can play the victim mentality. The extreme poor are not capable of imagining the struggles of others in the same way that the extreme rich can not imagine the damage they have done. 95% of people are awful at understanding anything more than their own personal experience. Everyone is focused on eliminating middle class people whether from jealousy by the poor or by greed from the rich.

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

@@Denussy what the world’s majority needs is empathy for each other and unity. The sooner you realize that if we solve each other’s problems, we all do better. The ultra rich are insulted from reality. They have no idea the suffering they are causing. The ones that know are deliberate with extracting even more from everyone else.

[@matimbakwinika72]

In South Africa we don't run away from our problems

[@willankhatter]

You demand everything from the government, free money, housing and even toilets. Why would you run anywhere else 🤔

[@rigbyrigbone5407]

@@jamstagerable and yet you just gave your votes to the DA descendants of the same Europeans who ran away from their countries to impoverish Africans, ain't that a paradox? We all saw the lines of "South Africans" mostly Europeans for that matter waiting to case their diaspora vote in a country they don't reside in, who are you lying to?

[@FHi349]

​@erikholberg5070 better than suffering as second-class and third-class citizens in other nations

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

We used to say that too🥺

[@SifrPro-qs5jo]

Because you are the only african country still run by Europeans ;)

[@davidsmithy123]

The perspective from migrants is important - but this is really horrible one-sided shallow reporting. How about you look at why attitudes have changed? Interviewing regular Europeans - maybe we don't feel safe as anymore? Violent crime has been rising as well as serious sexual crimes. Especially in Sweden and Germany. Are we willing to sacrifice our safety? And are we willing to pay for millions of people who come here and don't share our values and culture? Are we willing to risks our childrens future on the alter of a Utopian dream with open borders, multiculturalism and rainbows? Or should we face the facts? I think many people would answer these questions very clearly. We are not willing - we want a safe, democratic and united European Union. With regulated migration and proper screening of people coming in.

[@rthelionheart]

How sad and tragic. Europe has long since lost its battle against that problem.

[@om-nj2hw]

Europe, please,please, please fight for your identity. Dont let other natioals take over, you are very special, please preserve it.

[@jimihayes2763]

Why dont they stay in their own nation if they are so proud of it

[@nicholasballard2403]

No one wants that guy in his neighborhood.

[@Laurel143]

Why are these military-aged men not enlisting in the military and police forces there in their origin countires!? Why not help their homeland, instead of running away and assisting gangs and terrorists by funding though smuggling?

[@fionagregg3511]

"You have to solve some problems" I totally agree but the problems in your own countries instead of running to a continent that is becoming overcrowded. Too many African people are encouraging their neighbours and families to come here and the reality is we in Europe, dont have the resources to cope with a rising problem of homelessness Europe-wide.

[@RodneySlinger]

North Korea has an excellent border policy.

[@gianhs8]

as Greek i aspect from my coast quard to protect me and my country from illegal immigrants, stay safe stay in your country

[@orawancarlile6192]

They need to build their own paradises through education and reinvest in their own people. The UN is doing a poor job of distributing resources to solve the problems.

[@lenniefei6710]

U mean if they can't afford bread, they should buy cake instead 😂😂😂😂

[@orawancarlile6192]

@@lenniefei6710 This type of thinking will never get out of the rut. No wonder they are looking for someone to provide income and be taken care of.

[@madrilenoalameda4097]

They're trying to take what's been and being stolen from them. Their own land caters to European interests instead of feeding their own people.

[@theoldgods8229]

@@lenniefei6710 you cannot spoon feed a country for its entire existence. Eventually these economic migrants are going to need to figure out a way to take care of themselves and build up their nations.

[@lenniefei6710]

@theoldgods8229 Really?! Are u versed in the matters of geopolitics dynamics?! Of not kindly just educate yourself first before anything else please!

[@hydronpowers9014]

Make Europe Great Again

[@Pou1gie1]

....off the backs of the colonized countries it stole land, resources and human slave labor from??? Because that was why Europe was successful...because it took and took and took.

[@coriolan1963]

But not through poisonous and nationalistic politics.

[@egertroos-qh7hw]

​@@coriolan1963Nationalism is great

[@coriolan1963]

@@egertroos-qh7hw it is a poison. Go and learn something about the WWII, and the wars in former Yugoslavia.

[@egertroos-qh7hw]

@@coriolan1963 Nationalism keeps countries pure

[@Azaria-fp6pe]

The migration problem would've never emerged if African nations remained under the European colonial boot that brought about peace and prosperity throughout the continent. Decolonisation was the genesis of the migration crisis that Europe is facing today

[@johncoppinger3208]

Johannson is correct it IS a battle for the soul of Europe. And one we dare not lose .

[@jamesbyrom9346]

What’s the solution? Import the whole African continent?

[@dingus6317]

Certain small-hatted tribesmen would have you believe so

[@2msvalkyrie529]

A fortress ?? Too late ! They're already here..!

[@oneshothunter9877]

Still millions thinkimg about a trip North. Not too late.

[@BinaryBlueBull]

​@@oneshothunter9877 It's too late. In the capital of my country, >30% don't have the local nationality. Note that this isn't counting those that were born here but have migrant parents. Count those and you're looking at near to 60%, and that was 5 years ago. In the second largest city of my country, statistics dating four months ago show that 72% of the children under 12 have foreign roots or have an actual foreign nationality. They are simply making so many more children than the original population that it's just a matter of time. That is, unless drastic measures (which are against EU law) like general deportation are taken. Actions that could have halted it or even mitigated it should have been taken one, preferably two decades ago. Exactly the same thing as with climate change, waaaaay too little, waaaaaay too late (not that we shouldn't do anything mind you, that's not what I'm saying)

[@oneshothunter9877]

@@BinaryBlueBull Yes. Seen from that pov it s in many ways a little late. But if illegal immigration is stopped it will make it easier to do something. I also live in Europe, but in a part not easy to illegally enter. Happy for that. Best wishes.

[@BinaryBlueBull]

@@oneshothunter9877 I'm glad to hear that and I hope your country keeps it laws that way and keeps protecting its original population. Mass migration is destroying the fabric and social cohesion of my country from the inside. The crime statistics are absolutely insane. 40% of our prison population has a foreign nationality from outside the EU. And note that this doesn't include those born here to migrant parents. There aren't any statistics about those but I'm willing to bet if you count those you will get a number saying that the vast majority aren't the native Europeans. I'm glad that there are still countries protecting their original inhabitants. May I ask which country you live in? Poland by any chance? My home country is Belgium, though for work I live in Germany a few months each year. Both countries are suffering because of what is happening, the situation is the same

[@oneshothunter9877]

@@BinaryBlueBull I live in Greenland, born and raised here. Danish father, Greenlandic mother. Used to go for vacation every year from Greenland to Denmark while being a child. Later on when I was grown up I lived a few years in Denmark, but returned to my home town. Yes, I've seen Europe change since my childhood. I am a leftie politically, but...being a leftist doesn't mean that one has to think that Europe can save the whole southern world by taking them in. Especially those who doesn't even and/or try to follow the laws and rules in Europe - those who want sharia laws and such - only one way. Out! Greenland is part of the Danish kingdom/realm, but not a member of the EU, so we are not even obligated to take refugees. And we don't have the infrastructure to take a lot of people in. Impossible. Peace and quiet(-ish) - at least compared to big European cities. No gangs hanging around corners. We are in need of trained/educated people though. Come to Greenland 😉

[@GuppyMilk334]

RIP Europe. Its already over in many places.

[@N7Tigger]

When will you get the message? We. Don't. Want. You. Here.

[@PoulNoergaard-j3f]

It does do any good to talk to the migrants. You need to talk to EU politicians - we should be in charge of our own countries at least a short while longer.

[@stefbaldfish2982]

DW you should be ashamed. While the voters in Europe vote more to the right then ever, you give us the feeling that we as citizens are the problem? Our societies have changed for the worst through all this migration. I think DW is payed by the NG organizations who live from the asylum crises. The EU is not obligated to take in more people. And the people of the EU don't have to welcome those refugees. So build the fortress EU fast!