Eurovision 1989: Much closer than it looked! | Super-cut with dynamic scoreboard

[@thereorderboard]

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[@AUTCPINBAD]

Remake!!!!!!!!

[@wyacheslawkodanev2107]

Is there any way to watch your 1988 video? It seems like it's deleted for copyright (at least it's not available on KZbin in my country).

[@AlmostDon]

Very good desing here, where flags are slightly waving, lovin it 👏

[@sizorunyon-13]

Great song of Yugoslavia and Denmark to! 😊

[@tumclift]

This is so much closer than people realise. I once saw this scoreboard in reverse somewhere, such a more suspenseful voting! Fab job again :)

[@thereorderboard]

Yes I agree, although Wogan's commentary largely misses it out...mainly because of the lack of a reordering scoreboard! I almost wondered whether it would be worth showing a 'what you'd need to win' element, like in Darts lol :-) Before Yugoslavia got that 1 point, the UK could have taken it, but only if Yugoslavia got nothing from Germany at all (which was close, they only got 1 point), and Yugoslavia gave the UK 12....perhaps less likely, but it could say 'requires 24 from two juries'. No where to fit in in anyway! Overall, I didn't think the UK deserved to be second, but the singing in English thing gave us an unfair advantage I think.

[@crossingfrederic]

@@thereorderboard Your last sentence tells a lot about your feelings about the entry XD

[@giannis93FUL]

@@thereorderboard is there a case when the purple light appears in any country that gets points that the country does not appear in other languages? Is there a case to change it?

[@markwrenn8569]

When the points are indicated, the receiving country's name is indicated in German and Italian, which along with French (the board's "mother tongue", so to speak), are the three main official languages of Switzerland.

[@jordicamps7379]

Spain's song and performance were amazing...and 6th position

[@ponyclub3198]

A total winner

[@yoni393]

The way we would get another 1988-voting moment if Iceland was voting last, your work is incredible!

[@Pawhlen]

Amazing job, I really like the detail that you made the flags wave

[@JeSuisRene]

During my spare time (read: procrastination), I tried to conduct this voting in reverse order. It is first a Sweden vs Austria contest, then it transitions into a Sweden vs United Kingdom contest. Italy also seem to do extremely well in the first half. After a particular round of voting, three points separate the top 5 (Austria, United Kingdom, Spain, Italy, Sweden). Denmark and Yugoslavia come out of nowhere (at somewhere around the halfway mark).

[@lorofcb3]

Great work as usual, you are a treasure even if I don't know you. Finland and Spain are my winners that year, so good.

[@JeSuisRene]

This is incredible, well done!

[@losvizzero6176]

How nice, thank you!!

[@thereorderboard]

Glad you like it!

[@ttheone3518]

Had the scores been presented from end to beginning of the running order (yugoslavia to italy) it would’ve made a much more spectacular voting sequence, with Sweden and the UK battling it out for most of it, until Yugoslavia and Denmark comes up out of nowhere at the end and Yugoslavia snatches victory at the last second

[@ariccua6101]

17:32 Based on the current rules, the youngest entrant to take the stage is Victor Vernicos (GRE 2023).

[@underattack1972]

A great entry for Finland! :)

[@GordonHugenay]

30:16 "trying to predict the weather at Eurovision. it's the most difficult thing in the world" - how times have changed, lol

[@lindakristinekjlibraten777]

Well it's still hard to predict the weather!!

[@dramaticScar]

@@lindakristinekjlibraten777 sorry it’s very easy to predict the weather… internet killed eurovision… star…

[@lindakristinekjrlibraten5759]

​@@dramaticScar well, I don't know! Here in Norway it's almost impossible! They predicted sun shine and blue skies...... and got the worst thunder storm in ages instsad. They nearly promised a week of sun shine for days for then to end up foggy and raining. Believe me : I was there at the last occation. I don't know where you live, so I can only speak for myself and my country.

[@dramaticScar]

@@lindakristinekjrlibraten5759 Well I'm sorry to read that... but when I say "predict weather" I mean predict the winner and where do 12 points usually go... I live in Portugal so yeah our factual weathers cannot compare :(

[@Kokolo-ze2cp]

A well deserved win for Yugoslavia, still an iconic song from the Croatian band Riva 🌴🇭🇷🫒

[@benpsmith77]

Not. Uk was robbed.

[@lombo0075]

How t f... can a pore cuntry like yugoslavia robbe you ???!! 😂😂😂

[@alijabilalovic4937]

@@benpsmith77 NIJE OPLJAČKANA!!!!MALO JE POBEDA IMALA VELIKA BRITANIJA PA JOJ FALILA I OVA!!!!MY DEAR YUGOSLAVIA!!!!

[@ariccua6101]

This was apparently the closest CRO got to Eurovision, even hosting in Zagreb in 1990 because of this.

[@Hercules1977]

​@ariccua6101 it was still Yugoslavia!

[@MrPartridge37]

I never knew that John Cleese had presented the Eurovision Song Contest.

[@lindakristinekjlibraten777]

The guy is so talented! 🤣

[@michaeloreilly8215]

Classics from Spain, Austria, Greece, Switzerland and Belgium.

[@redknapp]

It's bizarre how some songs seem like yesterday while others feel like they're from Jurassic Park. Here's an alternate top 10 12 - Spain 10 - UK 8 - Iceland (so under-rated!: and winner of best trousers 7 - Greece 6 - Yugoslavia 5 - Cyprus 4 - Turkey and after that it's anybody… 3 - Belgium 2 - Austria (winner of best hair) 1 - Sweden

[@davek303]

Amazing job again, mate!

[@thereorderboard]

Cheers! Love your concept with doing them in under an hour! I did struggle with whether to speed it up....the old viewer habits of wanting something snappy and all that!

[@stefanmellstrom9096]

How I miss these days, every song sung in native language. To me this is what ESC is - and should be - about. An absolutely wonderful mixture of what the contest should sound and look like.

[@moboha]

Fantastisk sang ❤

[@terrybaker8156]

I noticed right up until Luxembourg’s last participation in 1993 that their jury had a tendency to vote quite highly for Portugal

[@JeSuisRene]

Yes. 1990 is a shining example. That year, Portugal received 7 out of its 9 points from Luxembourg (the other two came from the United Kingdom)

[@wdym100]

It’s because of the high Portuguese population in that country

[@lexezlao]

there's a lot of Portuguese descent in Luxembourg so yeah, block voting

[@stefan4997]

@@wdym100 And how should the Portuguese population vote if it is just a jury voting???

[@rubendelmoralpin3417]

Another great job, congratulations👏👏 Are you going to do The 90's??

[@thereorderboard]

Yes, but as years roll on the designs get more complex, so it'll take a bit more time. Hopefully there'll be a decent collection by the end!

[@ponyclub3198]

Sweden and Spain were the best of the evening. However, wonderful entries from Greece and Cyprus which brought small delicate songs that aged very well. Portugal yet again underrated, Finland showing they can be top 10 if they want and an Israeli kid who hit puberty while performing :)

[@stefan4997]

No, Austria was the best, one of the best in ESC history!

[@WillHearteChannel]

Make scoreboards like that to old contests too (1957-1979)

[@WillHearteChannel]

@@dawidjan1993 It doesn't have to be in the same order... The graphics can just follow the order of the existing votings...

[@ariccua6101]

@@dawidjan1993 That's gonna be a lot of work.

[@JeSuisRene]

Not a great year by many means, but my top 5 are great. My personal points for 1989 (EDITED) 1p 🇨🇾 Cyprus 2p 🇹🇷 Turkey 3p 🇭🇷 Yugoslavia 4p 🇵🇹 Portugal 5p 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 6p 🇫🇷 France 7p 🇪🇸 Spain 8p 🇩🇰 Denmark 10p 🇸🇪 Sweden 12p 🇫🇮 Finland

[@stefan4997]

very strange top 5!? ... Austria was best with one of the best songs in ESC history

[@crossingfrederic]

Great job there once again. I really love the purple light appearing across countries when they got their points, it looks amazing! Nice idea wit the waving flags too, but there's something I noticed about them, you never use rectangular ones! Is there a reason behind that?

[@thereorderboard]

Thank you! Yes there is a reason - there's a great resource called countryflags.com and they have free downloadable images of flags and you can get them square or circular or rectangular etc...however, the rectangular ones aren't standardised in shape. The Belgian flag is practically square, the Luxembourg one is different to the French one and so on...not to mention Switzerland! So I'd have to artwork them up to work in a grid - to make them a similar size, otherwise it'd be really noticeable that they are all different shapes. That's why I've largely stuck with squares or circles so far.

[@MiroHeinonen]

Cities where the points were awarded from and languages this year Italy: Rome (French) Israel: Jerusalem (English) Ireland: Dublin (English) Netherlands: Hilversum (English) Turkey: Ankara (English) Belgium: Brussels (English) United Kingdom: London (English) Norway: Oslo (English) Portugal: Lisbon (English) Sweden: Stockholm (English) Luxembourg: Luxembourg (French) Denmark: Copenhagen (English) Austria: Vienna (English) Finland: Helsinki (English) France: Paris (French) Spain: Madrid (English) Cyprus: Nicosia (English) Switzerland: Bern (French) Greece: Athens (English) Iceland: Reykjavík (French) Germany: Munich (French) Yugoslavia: Novi Sad (French) Lolita Morena dealt with the odd-numbered juries, while Jacques Deschenaux dealt with the even-numbered juries.

[@mj2888]

Yugoslavia ❤️

[@terrybaker8156]

5 juries in and Austria had gained more points than they had amassed in the 3 previous contests combined (86-88)

[@stefan4997]

that wasn't difficult after 0 points in 1988 😉Greetings from Austria

[@tariqkhader6196]

@@stefan4997 a well deserved 0 points. It's sad that Thomas Forstner , who did amazingly well for Austria in 89, gained another 0 for Austria in 91. Here's a fun fact. The 2 closest finishes since 1975, in 88 and 91, Austria got nul points both times.

[@stefan4997]

@@tariqkhader6196 I know ... I'm from Austria and that was my time when I watched the ESC ... today this event is just horrible shit

[@meskbren]

EDIT : for some reason, I have warmed to 'Rock Me' in recent months. I still wouldn't rank it as the winner but I no longer feel hostility to it (I mean, we did get the wonderful Helga and Oliver the following year after all). I have long felt that the fact it was an upbeat song closing a generally dull selection of songs that helped it to win. I have changed my points below accordingly but, as I said, it is not my winner. My points: 1pt United Kingdom 2pt Germany 3pt Austria 4pt Sweden 5pt Yugoslavia 6pt Spain 7pt Finland 8pt Portugal 10pt Italy and Denmark 12 points

[@thoukisth]

AGAIN Italy had the best song but did not win (I am not Italian) ... and this one is an absolute classic ... one of the best songs EVER ... and in my top ten of all time Avrei voluto is really a gem ...

[@lucaswallo8127]

Sweden caught up massively

[@ariccua6101]

The scoreboard in the actual show looked like something for JESC.

[@andrijadjordjevic9584]

The voting would have been much more exciting if the order of voting countries was opposite. Yugoslavia scored 85% of their total points after first 14 juries (117 of 137).

[@JeSuisRene]

It would have, absolutely. at one point in reverse order, five countries at the top of the board would be within three points of each other. Yugoslavia and Denmark would be nowhere in the voting until past the halfway stage.

[@andrijadjordjevic9584]

@@JeSuisRene They would be 11th and 12th place after first eight voting countries.

[@gussanchez90]

The Spanish song deserved a better position. A song by maestro Juan Carlos Calderon and the great voice of NINA. Whichever country came behind Yugoslavia deserved to win. It's a shame to say that the only time Yugoslavia won Eurovision was with this song, remembered as one of the worst winning songs of the Festival.

[@lindakristinekjlibraten777]

I think that their songs from 1983 and 1987 would have been better winners. They should in fact have won in 1983, if you ask me! However I think that there would be worse winners both in 1989 and before and after that year too. However tastes are different, though! I wonder who would have won if there was a televoting in 1989.....

[@bulgaria9003]

54:00 So sad 😢

[@eurovisiopedia]

You look funny

[@terrybaker8156]

It's hard to believe that ESC 89 has any relation to the Esc Of the 2020s

[@baptistedelelcourt7946]

Yougaslavie,Suède ,Allemagne my French Top 3.

[@mirva3810]

Thanks everyone for liking Finland's song, we were REALLY robbed that year.

[@redknapp]

You so weren't!

[@terrybaker8156]

Never understood why she scored so highly, I thought it was very dull

[@stefankoch1517]

51:50 Is that Anne Linnet on the couch with Birthe Kjaer?

[@Gajol1000]

Loads of good songs in 1989. I like all of them but l LOVE the likes of Sweden, Finland, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Italy, Belgium, Greece….well… I can mention all of them, basically.😊

[@wdym100]

Portugal was so robbed this year

[@pimmagrimm]

Maybe this should have been titled ... 'nooo! Not Yogoslavia again!'. (Said from U.K perspective)

[@FlavioGirl]

what happened to 1988? :(

[@orcungokce4126]

What a grudge, what a hatred against Turkey, It's unbelievable

[@MiroslavZelenovic-f2s]

Bravo jugo kako se smorio ovaj mali engleski komentarcic

[@stefanoorru3097]

Ho sempre pensato che l'Italia mandasse canzoni non all'altezza proprio per scongiurare l'organizzazione dell'Eurofestival

[@andrewscott1253]

Its a nice score board, but I keep mistaking these for the real ones and then realize the computer generated score boards were still much more primitive that year. As someone who is interested in the evolution of computers and broadcasting technologies, I prefer to see the scoreboards presented as authentically as possible.

[@thereorderboard]

Thanks for taking the time to comment, and thanks for the comment before the comma lol. Otherwise there's plenty of videos around on KZbin with the actual scoreboards, as you know. I do make an effort to state the aim of the channel on both the video description (which is a useful read, sometimes) and the channel 'about' page. I even talk a little about the evolution of the technology and how design has been applied to it, so although I am replacing the original design, I'm not ignoring it.

[@andrewscott1253]

​@@thereorderboard I must take this opportunity to praise your scoreboards, they seem based on the 1998 design principles and that year had one of the best (it not the best) score boards ever. Would your software extend to emulating an electo-mechanical scoreboard?

[@kaik368]

My favourite was Italy 🇮🇹

[@esc9726]

My ranking from Turkey🇹🇷 1-🇫🇮Finland 2-🇵🇹Portugal 3-🇩🇰Denmark 4-🇸🇪Sweden 5-🇳🇱Netherlands 6-🇮🇪Ireland 7-Yugoslavia 8-🇦🇹Austria 9-🇬🇧United Kingdom(🇹🇷Turkey) 10-🇫🇷France 11-🇬🇷Greece 12-🇮🇸Iceland 13-🇪🇸Spain 14-🇧🇪Belgium 15-🇮🇱Israel 16-🇩🇪Germany 17-🇨🇾Cyprus 18-🇮🇹Italy 19-🇳🇴Norway 20-🇨🇭Switzerland 21-🇱🇺Luxembourg

[@euroboy4]

Why you write Turkey next to UK?

[@esc9726]

@@euroboy4 ıf ı put Turkey in the list ı would put 9th place

[@mawe1979]

@@esc9726 Turkey my winner this year

[@esc9726]

@@mawe1979 ooo it is great to hear

[@rigolonzinbrin]

Deserved for Yugoslavia but for me Austria is second

[@terrybaker8156]

Iceland didn’t deserve nul points

[@belgiumjan]

Netherland was the best when they could sing at the end they would have won

[@Atlass2023]

Turkey

[@mfi_7419]

Cyprus 12p

[@lovelyjubbly1.]

My ranking from croatia (ex yugoslavija) 1. France, greath song! 2. Yugoslavija 3. Denmark 4. Finland 5. Israel

[@mihaelajukic1314]

tbh I totally forgot how awful most of these songs were...I wasn't born then,but as Croatian we watched this few times...and to this day UK and Riva were the best for me...sorry not sorry

[@dreasbn]

probably one of my least favorite years.. alongside 1982

[@yamirzender222]

SORRY guys but SPAIN WAS THE BEST, sorry ex yougoslavia,,THE WORST SONG WINNER

[@ponyclub3198]

Not the worst ever, but the weaker winner of the 1980s

[@ivanbilobrk4696]

rock me baby is still so iconic. And is techincally the only song croatia won with, but it sadly counts as yugoslavia's win :(

[@rhrabadan]

YES!!!! BY FAR

[@Kokolo-ze2cp]

Lmao Yugoslavia was hands down the best, this Croatian band rocked. Sit tf down hater and shut it.

[@stefan4997]

I agree Yugoslavia was worst winner, but best in 1989 was Austria with one of the best song in ESC ever 😉

[@irondasgr]

The worst second place for the UK for which at large they are still paying with last places that they seem they can't get enough of.

[@thereorderboard]

Now now, we're just seeing what it's like down the bottom of the board :-) We're building towards another 1997 any year now...I hope.

[@kaitlinbilous4605]

"Why do I always get it wrong?" how appropriate

[@irondasgr]

@@thereorderboard A nice chance was that of 2009 and 2017. Too bad people can't appreciate real good music but root for bs instead.

[@nannasmor]

Uk should have won denmark nuumber 2

[@PE-dq2em]

Dreadful.

[@belgiumjan]

weakest off all contests

[@dirkpieper5746]

was ein scheiss

[@kulera]

This year sucked!

[@stefan4997]

This was my first ESC I saw live on TV ... I'm getting old 😉 Austria had the best song, one of the best in ESC history and should have won instead of Yugoslavia (what a shit song - one of the worst ever)