Eurovision 2024 faces backlash amid allegations against Dutch contestant, Israel’s involvement

[@lucianmafteiRO]

The incident unfolded at a highly emotional time for Joost. At the end of his performance, he saluted his father, a gesture that moved him to tears. Understanding the sensitivity of the moment, Joost had previously requested not to be filmed as he left the stage. However, after his semi-finals performance, a camerawoman continued to film him despite his repeated requests to stop. Overwhelmed and seeking privacy, Joost made a gesture towards the camera to insist she cease filming, although he made no physical contact with her. The camerawoman, perhaps feeling personally affronted, chose to file a complaint. The decision by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) to withhold footage of Joost's alleged "threatening movement" has only fueled further speculation and confusion. Releasing this footage could have clarified the situation, potentially exonerating the artist and demonstrating that the decision to disqualify him was unrelated to this incident. Instead, it appears the disqualification may be tied more closely to Joost's controversial remark about Israels participation in the song contest. During a press conference, a Polish journalist asked the Israeli contestant, Golan, whether she thought her participation might pose a security risk to others, given Israel's ongoing military actions in Gaza, referencing the pro-Palestinian rallies in Malmo during the Eurovision Song Contest. Swedish presenter Jovan Radomir quickly intervened, informing Golan that she doesn't have to answer this question. It was at this moment that Joost Klein, interjected with a simple "Why not?", that challenged the avoidance of this delicate subject. This indicated his support for transparency and dialogue on difficult topics. His disqualification followed shortly after this interaction, not immediately after the alleged threatening gesture made days earlier toward a crew member. Additionally, if a formal complaint has been filed with Swedish police, the EBU should have allowed the legal process to conclude before taking action. Presuming innocence until proven guilty is a fundamental principle that should have guided their actions.

[@SJP1504]

Not wanting to be a conspiracy thinker: but it's all being too coincidental... Knowing that there already was an agreement made not to film Joost after his performance. (Keep that in mind!) Then the specific interview where Joost was just being Dutch: being honest and to the point just that things are clear for the world, instead of going around the matter in circles... (That must have peed off the EBU...) Then after the performance he gets filmed against all agreements and being emotional, what would you do? Knowing that the agreement was made! They all talk about a threat, but I reckon he was in another state of mind and to the "victim" it must have looked like a threat. (Especially if you already had a brush with Joost about the same issue...) And funny enough she is/was hired/working for EBU... Then if he is filmed, what happened to the specific footage? If the police final report states he never touched her they could have shown it... But they didn't, so that's fishy... Then comes the verdict which was irreversible, if such an organisation can't sit around the table with Joost and AVROTros and give a first and last warning (which could warn others at the time of possible measures for certain actions) you give countries the time to rethink possible actions in the future. Now the irreversible measure would cause fear than time to rethink, so tensions rise with future festivals... So you just created a kind of dictatorship. (Hooray for EBU...) Looking at the timeline you would nearly say it looks like the situation was orchestrated, just because Joost was being Dutch and they were not having it. But I love the line from Switzerland in the aftermath: maybe the Eurovision may need some fixing. 😎 Briljant!

[@tom_stephen]

It was him asking that question? It wasn't shown on footage I saw on this interview with Eden, but this would make much more sense now.. such a disgraceful move from EBU.

[@VB-qv2ze]

​@@SJP1504👏

[@lwgg742]

Joost did nothing wrong. A lady filmed him repeatedly with her phone in a no-camera restricted environment and he made a "threatening movement" towards her phone so he wouldn't be on camera. He didn't touch her.

[@elenabob4953]

I don't know if he did or not something we on but not showing any proof, disqualifying him while saying that the investigation is ongoing is shameful and careless. That man was voted by a country to be there.

[@ivegotahandle]

​@mewho6592 Please say you're being sarcastic

[@ivegotahandle]

​@@Markiboy3 Well it's not harassment like the woman did

[@hvermout4248]

Joost allowed himself to be provoked by the Israelis into a stupid act. Against the agreements and despite several warnings, he is continuously filmed backstage by "camerawoman" Keren Peles (the songwriter of the Israel team). When he gets angry and loses his temper, the Israel team presses charges. Joost does not need to feel ashamed. Millions of Israel's neighbours have preceded him over the past 76 years. Israel is the largest financier of the Eurovision Song Contest, Maroccanoil is an Israeli company. As long as this is the case, we better not participate in this nonsense anymore. Israel is not a European country, let them organize a festival in their own region...

[@ttt5205]

​@@kknn523several delegations entered formal complaints of the Israeli delegation's behaviour days before the contest.

[@barrydechef7619]

United by Music Divided by Politics

[@nzelver559]

@mr-andrew more like Israel's contestant was peaceful and did what she was there to do - sang her heart out and got in the top 5.

[@psnaris]

He's the least of their problems.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

He proves there is something wrong with EBU with corruption that needs to be investigated

[@figaro-dg5c5]

This was just wrong. Feel bad for Netherland people.

[@Fern19671]

There's no excuse for expelling Joost from the contest! And if the organizers really wanted to separate politics from entertainment/music than the Russia Federation should take part of Eurovision song contest just as Israel took part. Why should the artists take the blame for politicians wrong doings? Something to think about: before there was something called Ethics that could distinguish Politics from Art and from Sports!

[@aelix56]

Even the funny moustache man allowed the olympics to happen and invited everyone, literally worse than him 😂😂

[@Fern19671]

@@Markiboy3 Please tell me where is this rule written in which asking "Why" will lead to desqualification? And how about the journalist who posed the question in the first place to the israeli participant? was the journalist unaware of the rules or was he having difficulty to grasp?The point is, the dutch participant was not disrespectful in any way, he was neutral towards the Israel conflict. Now you may specify what rules prevent the journalist from being charged and the participant being eliminated since he wasn"t the author of the question.

[@Fern19671]

@@aelix56 True. Good point

[@devildevil2271]

There's a word for this called complicity by Eurovision

[@ttt5205]

​@@Markiboy3The EBU broke the no camera agreement they made themselves.

[@ttt5205]

@@Markiboy3 Damn, its almost as it it takes absolutely nothing to get a case going. You know he hasnt been proven to have done anything right? Plenty of people walk away scot free after a trial. The EBU will do anything they can to pin the blame on someone else, regardless of the fact that several other delegations are also blaming the EBU for an unsafe work environment.

[@ttt5205]

@@Markiboy3 The account of the Dutch delegation is pretty solid. If the EBU had a significant story they wouldve told it already. It must suck to be practically the only one with your opinion huh?

[@ttt5205]

@@Markiboy3 I presume I dont need to tell you about the presumption of innocence do I? The EBU is only doing this trial in an attempt to justify its earlier disqualification and to take attention away from its main Israeli sponsor and the drama surrounding the Israeli delegation. Its nothing more than a show trial to take the heat of thing the EBU doesnt want people to talk about. Seems like you're not exactly the bright type for taking their accusations seriously.

[@DLG24]

Ah! The business-as-usual contest.

[@freddydebruyn1027]

And we woke again

[@zsom1987]

How sad and pathetic must your life be if eurovision is the highlight of your life. 😂😂😂

[@Rita-gq9hp]

Joost Klein song has also a story but they choose the story of Nemo. So eurosvision which country you will disqualified next year?

[@zaidal-hindawi1784]

Israel 🇮🇱 got Joost disqualified because he was a favorite to win, rigged the televote and STILL didn’t win 😂

[@elenabob4953]

I don't think it was Israel but because the votes would have been split between Netherlands and Swiss and they didn't want Croatia to win.

[@aelix56]

@@elenabob4953 Croatia was so much better than switzerland. And europapa would've won by a landslide if there was justice in this world.

[@SuddenReal]

@@Markiboy3 You mean the EBU rules that he wasn't allowed to be filmed after his performance? The one that EBU broke?

[@andriedemetriou3113]

Yes…FREE FROM WAR AND LAND DESIRES. Peace!

[@nicholasdelaney1407]

I pray that Joost gets the love and justice he deserves! 😭 He was thrown out while that crazy satanist was allowed to stay...

[@MarkMiller304]

If Israelis are Europeans why is their country in the Middle East?

[@creamacutelittlecat1243]

same with austraila lmao

[@devildevil2271]

There's a word for this called complicit to geno

[@marlene8344]

Trash news

[@bob-p7x6j]

yup

[@Lickymaballs]

its just another issue where the men get blamed for a problem caused by a woman. in this case she would not stop filming him when asked to stop. i guess women don't know no means no.

[@fryingpandryingpan]

I don't think you should be blaming woman, and missing the point about EBU abusing their power just because joost wouldn't kiss israels feet

[@nicholasdelaney1407]

I find it so hypocritical that Israil was allowed in Eurovision but Russia wasn't allowed in because of the Ukraine war. I bet the Palestinian protesters would be patting Joost on the back after hearing how he was treated by Israeli's 😢...

[@NoNo-sj2ly]

F the EBU

[@HZV1911.]

Stand with joost Stand with Izrael

[@andriedemetriou3113]

IN MY TALENTED MUSICAL INSTINCT, THE BEST EURO V SONGER WAS THE FRENCH 🇫🇷

[@NoGattsuNoGlory]

Just an allegation... meaning automatic disqualification. And pro Palestinians don't remember the hostages or Hamas for some reason

[@bjorn____]

Agreed 💯

[@SuddenReal]

Palestinians are not Hamas, just as Jews are not the government of Israel. There's a big difference.

[@Yuri-z2y]

Freek show. Nothing else....

[@The_Dinner_App]

Man that look like Joost will last in Palestine few hours - max few days before execution. And Joost was very rude to Israeli member of ESC- maybe got fame sickness. Sad

[@patrickcowan8701]

Check out the entry from Ireland. Crazy what passes as music nowadays

[@steampoweredratt]

alt music has existed for decades lol

[@vincelemaire]

No backlash from the public obviously 🙂 Publics of Switzerland and the Netherlands gave 12 points to Israël! 🎉 ❤️🇨🇭❤️🇳🇱💙🇮🇱💙 ✨✝️✡️✨

[@user-rh6ru5oz2o]

Lol comparing Isreal with Russia

[@helenpauls1496]

Both the same!

[@marufjaved6551]

literally both doing same but russia is villains and israel heroes . Israel stealing palestine since they came in Palestine as rich refugees coz europe dodnt want them. Now europe wants them

[@elenabob4953]

Insane but loud people. Russia=Hamas and Ukraine=Israel

[@Natalie09800]

Now we know what Europe really thinks about Israel 🇮🇱. And it makes me unbelievably happy and proud. Am Yisrael Chai 🇮🇱♥️🇩🇪

[@elenabob4953]

Same here.THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, Israel no2 in people's votes after Croatia. Even countries with huge Muslim community voted for Israel so the extremely loud MINORITY

[@Natalie09800]

@@elenabob4953 Exactly 👍

[@Special-Creature]

Germans never change. Embarrassing. Btw: can you please tell Germans to stop praising the death of 15.000 children in Gaza?

[@melisadirilish6466]

FREE PALESTINE !! VIVA VIVA STUDENT INTIFADA !!

[@worstknightmayor4439]

Free from islam

[@bob-p7x6j]

@@worstknightmayor4439 free from pure idiocy, the cause of the week,

[@bjorn____]

Free Canada

[@bob-p7x6j]

@@bjorn____ yup, next year

[@sunkiis]

ASIAN/DUTCH PEOPLE ?