#Eurovision2023

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[@paidatomriehuja]

I think you hit the nail on the head there when you said we as a fandom are a minority. We’ve seen it time and time again where our fan favourites fail in the voting. We tend to forget that so many people go into the final completely blank. And some songs like for example Spain’s entry don’t get the time they need for people to appreciate them the way we as a fandom do. It just goes to show how little of an impact we have…

[@greyhavens9474]

Exactly

[@hlloret]

The fandom did not realy vote for Spain... You know that...

[@xander2609]

Yeah, I think so too. That also explains why commercial, generic and umtempo songs do really well in the televote, whereas more traditional sounds (which are appreciated by a huge part in the fandom) are not much appreciated, because of the casual viewers and general public

[@priyaravindran6150]

@@xander2609 Traditional sounds do well with Moldova and Ukraine, but I think their songs are catchier, so that helps.

[@xander2609]

@@priyaravindran6150 Yes, exactly. In those cases, they always mix folk sounds in catchy and upbeat songs, so that makes it more enjoyable to the public

[@momadama1]

Spain shouldn’t care Blanca was last in the televote. It was an amazing entry and they should keep giving us these performances, though I won’t blame them if they send another pop song… or another Manel Navarro or Chikilicuatre. I hope her results won’t discourage other countries from taking risks.

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Same

[@faiththomas1749]

@@AlesiaMichelleI’m going to say something controversial but Loreen shouldn’t have been allowed to compete again this year (she should’ve been a mentor ) I as a american was actually ( hate me if you want ) was rooting for Finland , Chezcia , Ireland , Germany , Sweden Belgium and Norway ( you don’t know how many times I played those songs on loop EVERYDAY SINCE THEIR RELEASE

[@priyaravindran6150]

@@faiththomas1749 I can agree with you to some extent, but it seems that people didn’t have issues with former contestants re-participating before, until Loreen, because of her popularity, which is understandable in some ways, but also reeks of jealousy/insecurity in others. Not many people were outraged when Sergey Lazarev, Alexander Rybak or Poli Genova participated more than once, and I say this as a non-Loreen stan. I wasn’t even that fond of tattoo this year, lol.

[@trao1938]

The problem with Spain's performance, and Alesia discusses this very well in the video were the sound issues. Spain's national qualifying performance was mesmerizing and organic, and I watched it several times. But at Saturday's finals, it wasn't the same. From the top of the song, the hand-clapping was significantly louder than the vocals, and that sound became irritating very quickly. I kept waiting for the clapping to stop. I don't think the performance fully recovered from it.

[@vixwza8553]

Blanca should come back next year !

[@valterssluka1945]

Juries saved this years competition. Without them Spain would have come dead last and Australia and Austria would have tanked too. On top of that Polanf and Croatia would have finishef in the top 10, which just simply would be disrespectful. Overall the juries and the televote do a great job at balancing eachother out and ultimately creating a decent scoreboard every year. Because of the both sides having 50 % of votes we have had a deserving winner almost every year!

[@akasapidxx805]

100% agree

[@TheESCHermit]

Completely agree. We need to increase the number of juries not take them away. It's so easy to criticise the jury when the televote are no angels themselves. There's no perfect system

[@joebloggs396]

Georgia missed the juries.

[@a.m.rifkia.3rd493]

@@TheESCHermit the 1995 and 1996 jury panel from each country consisted of 16 (yes, 16) people; and that was just one year and two years before the first ever televoting in 1997. the easiest way is just to reimplement that.

[@xander2609]

I wish everyone took some time to really reflect on the issue, because every non-biased and critic person would come to the same conclusion as yours. Sadly, there's much ignorance and fanatism which prevents that from happening. People who demand getting rid of the juries are not aware of the consequences. Most of them would end up regretting such decision in less than 3 years time

[@jonnywoo5962]

I was so impressed with Marco. I wasn't into the song at first (and I LOVE L'Essenziale), and was rooting for Madame / Lazza / Elodie in Sanremo (who would have all been amazing) BUT Marco truly delivered a level of quality and noticeable humility that really stood out and the fact that both jury and televote gave him almost identical scores shows how great he was. I loved the staging. It was intelligent and subtle and his vulnerability was moving. I like the Marco we got this year. He lost the swagger of 2013 and came with a real honesty and beauty and I think his carrying the flag at the start really was a 'this is me moment'.

[@dianas3627]

Totally agree with all your comments,well said,Marco was brilliant 👏🏼👏🏼

[@GRomance0804]

Looking at the results, I was surprised Slovenia didn't get a higher overall placement. I felt since We lost Latvia, Slovenia would hit harder. Although I am glad Australia made top 10.

[@neconeconeco]

aw man. you're right. it felt like so many countries this year sent something so authentically true to themselves and got crumbs for it. basically it says to countries like Albania and Portugal that your culture and language isn't appreciated here even though you blew the house down with your performance. i think reexamining how the scores work to make it fair for non-English, non-Western pop sounding songs to at least start on an even playing field is a good first step..

[@neconeconeco]

@Meima nope, I'm saying does not sound like Western /pop/ music specifically.

[@carlosporridge]

Alesia you're not hated on. I love your honesty and enthusiasm. Really enjoy your videos. Lots of love from France 💓

[@AlesiaMichelle]

TYSM.

[@Atlasss97]

I'm just really sad about the big 5 - the collective quality was really good and they were given crumbs overall, esp the televote. And funny how Italy, who everyone collectively had down as their least favourite, did the best. I was so happy as Marco was my third

[@dianas3627]

Well said,agree totally.I was surprised and frustrated everyone was talking about the other big 5 and dismissing Marco because it was a ballad but people forget no one does better ballads than Italy,they know how to deliver and perform them,the poetic beautiful language,Italy always class and thrilled Marco did so well and i admire and love how they bring different songs each year also …Jazz in 2011,classical opera with il volo,pop rock,Maneskin and Soldi by Mahmood etc,might not be ethnic but Italy can be diverse..

[@swedishmetalbear]

As long as they buy their way into the final and autoqualify... This is going to happen. People will avoid voting for them unless they send an exceptional song. Why`? Because people do not vote objectively. Which is also why we need jury's and industry professionals.

[@Atlasss97]

@@swedishmetalbear bro it's not bcs they're AQ lol, they just don't have the diaspora voting which provides a decent 20-40 points usually But also I do think both Germany and UK were alright to good - not great, in a year where's there's loads of great entries. But also some mid ones that placed higher. At the end of the day Sam, Chanel, Barbara and Michael proved the AQs can get some decent points, without AQ status hurting them.

[@arcticelephant4721]

You almost made me choke on my dinner when you started talking about the styling 😂😂😂😂

[@JuvatVivere]

Thank you for all these weeks, Alesia!!

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Thank YOU for watching.

[@asr6608]

Alesia, a los españoles que critican, no les importa la canción, si es buena o mala, si está o no trabajada, si hay simbolismos o su dificultad. O ganan (y todo es perfecto) o la canción, la intérprete y los meses de trabajo han sido los peores. Resulta tan irónico y a la vez bonito que sea una extranjera quien defienda la propuesta española.... Gracias Alesia por ese apoyo hacia la originalidad. No me importan los 5 puntos. Esto es Eurovisión y hay que sentirse satisfechos e ilusionados experimentando para el año que viene. Un abrazo desde Andalucía.

[@rebeccaed2018]

Spain chose the right song. It is absolutely beautiful. Gracias España! Voted from Finland!

[@tosvus]

So agree on the sound mixing - I don't get sound issues. Vocals were doubled up, echos, low vocals etc. (and that was on the broadcast)

[@kellyrocheleau4660]

I'm not going to lie, in terms of the sound mixing, if I can't hear Mimicat's final beautiful note in Semi-Final 1 all that well, there is a problem. I also feel bad for most of the Big Five. I would argue this was the best Big Five in years, and most of those songs were blown off.

[@kiwiceltic9]

Thanks for the season.

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

Yes, Käärijä came out of the box - Loreen remained inside it. Literally. 😂

[@hannaalenius1790]

She's basically open the damn box dude!

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

@@hannaalenius1790 She opened it. Käärijä punched holes into it. 😁

[@Molhedim]

I always tune to your channel each year when eurovision season starts

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Thanks !

[@maiasita]

Oh my gosh, I had to watch this video to see what you said because I thought until now that I was the only person in the world that loves EAEA! Still makes me cry when I listen to it and I can’t understand how it didn’t do better…

[@tosvus]

I'll bring up the staging and costume to the Norwegian delegation leader - it seems to be a recurring theme that they dropped the ball, so it was a bit funny how much he thanked everyone for those things after the show. PS: Norway is consistently ranking very high especially in the televote, so hoping for a win soon...

[@AmrodCulnamo1]

I'm afraid if we get rid of juries, entries like Spain 2023 will not even be sent to ESC anymore. And before soon we'll be back to the 2005-2008 era where one had serious difficulty defending the contest that it's not all just a big circus.

[@annip5573]

You are so right about Spain. Musically it was the best entry, but Eurovision is a bubble with no appreciation for interesting music! I was so angry about the sound, there were some crazy people in the hall and screeming they disturbed her performance, but the soundmix need to prevent that it is possible that such screems came through so much

[@nutnutnutnutnut]

I agree with pretty much everything in this video The hosting was great but the mixing really made so many acts just sound weird and sometimes really muted. I saw some videos of people recording the performances in the arena and it somehow sounded better than in the actual broadcast 🤷

[@priyaravindran6150]

Some acts, the music was way louder than their voices. That annoyed me, lol.

[@mercedesgc]

Italy’s ‘Grande Amore’ was my absolute winner in 2015. ❤❤❤

[@markeeecmarkoni2855]

I have one problem..... I have nothing against the jury remaining in the competition, but I want each jury to play by the rules and be a musically educated person who has references to judge performanse on stage. Somehow I have the feeling that this jury did not do a good job and that it was influenced by the favorites and there were no points for the others

[@AleLuciani]

What you say is valid but jurys at the end of the day are still People with personal taste.

[@TotalbadassX]

How can we measure if the juries did just that? They picked who they thought was good. You wouldn’t say that if Finland won

[@broerbier]

For me, Spain's entry was one that I respected more than I really liked. The vocals were pretty intense and juries tend to vote for songs that are easily digestible.

[@lemoneteclaraloptera2462]

Como fan española siento que estamos en el camino correcto, el cambio de delegación ha sido un éxito en muchos sentidos y nos han devuelto la ilusión con la preselección. Y sinceramente si lo pones en prespectiva un 17 no es mal puesto para nosotros en ésta década 😂 Viva la Blanca Paloma inmaterial ❤❤

[@trildi]

LOLing at the outfit rant, 100% agreed!!! 😂

[@notdallaslol]

ur so real homegirl💓

[@Flokarl1]

I am really happy for Albania!!!! Because since Knez, Adio , I have missing the Balkan ballads sooo much! ...And Albania was clearly in this directgion :-)

[@trao1938]

I couldn't have cared less about Albania's song this year. And then I watched the performance in the 2nd semi final. Her vocals shook me. Incredible. Easily my favorite of that entire semi. It's the quality of performance the jurors ought to be looking for.

[@GospodinNelson]

I rooted for Finland, I really felt that Finnish victory before the grand final and after the rehearsals, and I was right to some extent since Kaarija had +130 televotes more than Sweden. I never saw Finland winning the jury, but I was always saying that Finland needed over 200 jury points because I knew Loreen would have more than 300 points from jury. Once I saw he scored 150 points from jury I quite knew it was a done deal, even if I had some little belief Sweden could get like 170 televotes during split screen. It was always going to be between Sweden and Finland. I think jury could really give him those damn 57 points more he needed.

[@natashaesc]

Politics always influence the final result. It would’ve been too risky to let Finland host, and I’m saying this as a Loreen lover.

[@Dds123-l3z]

Thats the problem with hyping people up, always keep it cool before we know who wins ❤ Finland is such a welldeserved runner up and I hope we get to see him in Sweden Eurovision 2024! Loreen is such a great winner and ambassador for ESC. Lets make ESC bigger and better!

[@samuelgalea7679]

I would’ve been fine if he got 250 even 230 . But Sweden being 200 points above Finland was so wrong lol. Let me add to that: even second place jury was HALF the jury winner points. It’s like the juries watched one performance ?

[@erikafinland2162]

@@natashaesc why would it be a risk?? 😳

[@Sk88p]

I wish i could have been present at this live, but sadly had to work. I just wanna say this year in general was a big step up from last ear. UK/Liverpool did an amazing job. Especially the opening acts were indeed amazing. Audio was better at the final but not so good at the semi finals. The countries i loved before the shows, delivered!! Belgium, Poland really stood out. Also proud of Australia and Czech Republic making it into the top 10. Spain ending very low does not shock me, The song was too complex. Serbia also got a bit of a hit because of that. Georgia not in the finals was sad, but even i felt something was missing. Overall it was still a great Eurovision year.

[@tolliverist]

One question... without wanting to underestimate, just out of curiosity about your tastes and your opinion... how old are you?

[@hlloret]

Complex?...How old are you... or your mind is...? Sorry... It is not fair.

[@Sk88p]

@@hlloret My age is none of your business. I explained why i think it ended low. Too bad if you don't like it.

[@trao1938]

Good commentary. It's totally possible to discuss these issues constructively. Because not all criticisms are emotional or 'hate' driven ones. How anyone feels about Loreen's or Kaarija's songs truly isn't the issue here. This year is over, and fortunately a decent song won. This discussion is for the sake of next year's and future Eurovision contests. I've been going back and forth about the juries, and for me it comes down to the single question, "What exactly are juries there to do?" The responses to this question I hear most are: *to keep the contest fair * to prevent bloc voting * to stop a 'joke' song from winning. So my next question is, "Did the jury accomplish these things this year, or did they really just prevent the rightful song from winning the contest?" I get it, juries are "music experts." But we don't really know what's their field of expertise or the criteria they use when voting. Are they songwriters and musicians, or producers and promoters? Are they rating the song by degree of difficulty or musical complexity, or is it based on its likelihood of becoming an international crossover Top 40 hit? Because if it's the latter reason, then forget about culturally ethnic songs ever winning the contest. Ironically those are the songs which attract so many of us to follow Eurovision every year- if we wanted generic, AI generated Top 40 music, we could simply turn on our radios and have at it. The real issue at hand is whether or not 5 jurors should yield as much voting power as thousands upon thousands of televoters. Because in the end, we don't even really know if most jurors believed "Tattoo" was the best song. Here's why. Say the 5 jurors all ranked "Tattoo" with 7's across the board, for a combined total of 35. Then let's say each juror's higher ranked songs (8/10/12 pts) were all completely different from one another. In this situation, it's highly possible Sweden's combined 7's could end up with the highest numeric value, thus resulting in a douze point. This happens in competitions all the time with winners, where nobody thought you were the best, but everyone agreed you were good enough to be placed somewhere safe in the middle. Then the result is that everyone's 4th choice ends up taking first prize. I suspect this same sceario could have happened with Sweden and the juries, because - despite its charms and Loreen's vocals- "Tattoo" feels very much like a safe in the middle choice. Whereas televoting is altogether different, because it's all based on the total votes a song receives. Unlike jurors, televoters don't vote for whom they think should come in 4th place. They vote for the song(s) they believe are the best and that most deserve to win. Even if they vote for 4 different songs, it makes no difference because all votes get counted exactly the same. Add up the votes and the most gets the douze. And on Saturday, Finland received douze points 18 times from the televoters, a score surpassed only by the unstoppable Ukraine last year. And Finland still lost. That is the single greatest argument I can make for why juror points should not count equally to televotes. Because televote points cannot be disputed. And because, in a contest that's all about awarding the best song, it's possible that no juror thought Sweden had the best song. That's highly improbable perhaps, but then again, Sweden's lack of a single douze televote point is rather unbelievable, too. Maybe the juries shouldn't have that much power. Maybe juries don't want that much power. But if viewers start thinking that there's no point to voting, since no matter what they choose the juries ultimately have the power to silence it, that could be a very, very bad thing for Eurovision.

[@karinseregni221]

Yes, Mae Muller's outfit was NOT it. On the other had, Hannah Waddingham's stylist nailed it.

[@catarinaguerra840]

Would this rise of pop songs on the tip 10 be associated with the contest entering on a more mainstream environment and attract more casual viewers, which are more drawn into pop than ethnic/out of the box songs?

[@black_bean_paste]

@Alesia Michelle we need your Top 10 after the show!

[@GospodinNelson]

We need reform in voting format, we really do. They're gonna keep the jury and we all know that, and I don't mind! I wouldn't even mind jury having 50 percent like so far. The problem is that people in jury seats tend to be super subjective and always go for something that is accessible, poppy and conventional. There were professional jurors who ranked Kaarija in TOP 3, what was problem with others? Konstrakta delivered masterpiece last year and she didn't even get 100 jury points? Seriously? She could have comfortably be 2nd last year if the jury was truly professional. I'm rather sceptical about broadcasters picking more diverse jury and I don't think EBU is gonna bother itself with controlling who sits in jury apart from that jury members have to be from music industry, so I think EBU should just reduce jury power from 50% to 33% or 40%. I don't want to see a song winning televoting by big difference and then not winning.

[@turtellok4964]

I honestly thought the Jury result and the televote results were both pretty weird. Especially the televote. Like 16 to Austria and Serbia, also only 5 to Spain, 15 for Germany and 20 for Australia. That was all so unexpected and also so different from the semis. I'm really happy for Sweden's win though and also this whole top 3 feels pretty good. I'm also proud of Vesna for coming top 10. About the Juries: I feel like it should stay 50/50% and I also think it would give a weird signal to the past Jury winners if we just reduced the Juries influence. However I do think we should have more Jury members. I also lowkey want the Juries back in the semis just because of Georgia this year, but I don't really need that

[@msch7620]

It’s not weird to me Serbia was too dark and we couldn’t hear him (that was my least favourite), Spain felt a bit overwhelming, Germany and Australia’s entry felt a bit too clean/expected for rock. Some were too experimental, some felt too commercial.

[@turtellok4964]

@@msch7620 well but I guess that is exactly what bothers me: That being "too experimental" is a bad thing

[@Chanelistap]

We kinda have a problem with people who cant stand the fact not their fave won the contest and these people have no idea whatsoever whats taken into account while the juries vote. Juries actually saved Austria's and Spain's song who you all now seem to love so why didnt you vote? Thanks to your huge "support" Spain would have come dead last and that would be a joke. Jamala didn't win neither the juries nor the public vote yet no one said anything. Duncan won the same way (or even worse because he was 3rd in the juries and 2nd in televote) yet no one said anything. It just goes to show this years contest was watched by people who don't regularly watch it and wanted to prevent Sweden from winning because "its unfair to send her for the 2nd time blablabla" - where were you back in 2018 when Rybak, one of the must successful winners came back? Oh wait, his song wasnt that good to threaten your fave chances of winning soo yeah, we could let that go 🤡

[@valterssluka1945]

PREACH

[@ddraven3180]

No one said anything because the televote winner didn't have a 130+ lead on the actual winner in 2016/2019. That's the difference genius. The juries decided who won here, plain and simple. The juries also only favour bland pop garbage, and overrate Sweden every year. There needs to be a reform, and the Swede in charge of ESC right now needs to be fired

[@freshlypainted]

preachhhh

[@carloscamejo391]

If Morocco can leverage their large diaspora, especially in France, they could be big at Eurovision again.

[@pogodziej]

Well, Turkey is in no hurry to come back. So France and Germany (also Italy) are up for the taking xD C'mon Morocco. You've done it before.

[@GRomance0804]

Ps. No shade, I loved Alika's styling... that Periwinkle was really crisp. Maybe the backdrop could have a bit brighter.

[@Texaslawhorn]

At least it wasn't another red performance...

[@rf101259]

I knew the moment that it was announced that Loreen was even competing for Sweden’s NF, I looked straight at my daughter and told her “it’s all over. Don’t even hold the competition. She is going to win”. I love Loreen’s song, don’t get me wrong, but I was really rooting for Finland. Alesia, you said during the semi final 1 live stream “Loreen doesn’t need my votes” and that was such a true statement!

[@UsernameUsername0000]

A counterpoint: every time we think the results of an edition might affect the next one, they don’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if we ironically get many out of the box entries next year. Many countries will want a piece of that Kaarija pie even if he didn’t win.

[@Chanelistap]

Let me remind yall who keep saying "scrap the juries!!!" etc - without those "horrible" juries Spain would have come dead last. One of the best vocalists coming dead last would be adding fuel to the fire for those people who dont give a single damn about this contest (we all love) and keep mocking it saying its all political and other stupid stuff. The juries saved Austria as well, keep that in mind. And remember why the juries were implemented in the first place. To avoid tactical voting which, it pains me to say it, is kinda what Finalnds public did being THE ONLY ONE not giving Sweden even a single point (this automatically reminded me of Italy's last year shenanigans giving Spainc0 points🤡) Loreen didn't have to be your favorite but to say she wasn't one of 10 best performances of the night is ridiculous and biased. At least both Swedish and Finish juries showed some class. This whole "drama" is just spoiling the fact Loreen made history with her hard work and perseverance. The vast majority of people bashing her online have no idea she attempted to represent Sweden both in 2011 and 2017 but she failed to win Melodifestivalen (which ironically is sometimes harder to win than the actual Eurovision) I love Kaarija. I love Loreen. Imma support all of them and some other artists I got introduced to thanks to this year's contest.

[@barttrodd7918]

Well said!

[@ddraven3180]

Like the juries don't pull tactical bs all the time, lol. You actually think Sweden being that ahead wasn't planned, get real. Y'all Loreen simps are hilarious

[@diri_birb]

The fact that Sweden fans think that a nation of 5.6 million people is able to coordinate not voting a specific country is lowkey hilarious. Especially since finnish public did vote for Sweden, it's just that they were 13th in our televote, so no points. But i guess it's easier to believe that Finns didn't like 12 other acts (many of them heavier music, that Finns are known to love) more than they liked Tattoo than to not sh*t on Finland over points that Sweden didn't even need. Y'all are reaching to find reasons to defend the current jury system. Loreen is wonderful person and it makes me sad to see that on one side, some people take out their frustrations over the jury system and this years results on her, and on the other some people say equally vile things about her competitors instead of celebrating her win and her accomplishments. That's not an easy position to be in and frankly she deserves better.

[@adamtideman4953]

​​Mate just stop... Finland being the only country to blank Sweden the one time they both have a chance to win Eurovision is literally the most clear case of tactical voting there is. I still cant believe Tusse got more televote points than Loreen from Finland. Freakin Tusse!

[@dukebubblebutt5256]

Albina from Albania in the interview said she didn't see Sweden as a winner and MOREOVER swededish tv bosses want to see her as representative of Sweden in 2024! What did she smoke lol?

[@Schlachter14]

Perfectly fine with outcome but I do think we need jury reform as gap between public sentiment and “expert” juries seem to be getting bigger and bigger. Maybe tweak percentages between televote and jury, have jury members judge in isolation from one another to not allow groupthink, have jury members almost sequestered meaning not allowed to see betting odds or songs before live shows. I think such changes might help juries stop voting for countries and songs that are “safe” for them.

[@lighthouse620]

What happened to reiley getting through on his TikTok following?

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Did you even watch the video? 1)I didn't think he was getting through cuz of TikTok. 2) I thought his vocal would have been together. We've heard him sing live, so I thought he'd be fine- he was not. 3) NEWSFLASH: I actually liked the song, other folks I played it for (outside the bubble) did too.

[@annip5573]

About Germany, what did you think about Frida Gold "Alle Frauen in mir sibd müde", the singer got ill at the rehearsels for the national selection so they could not compete

[@AlesiaMichelle]

I loved Frida Gold, but my personal conspiracy theory was that they never intending to compete in the NS. Like they barely promo'd their inclusion in the NS and I personally reached out on several channels to legit NOT ONE response. Idk what happened ned. I liked the song but idk if they even wanted to compete forreal.

[@-_YouMayFind_-]

I think the reason why people are crying more about the Sweden and Finland thing is that this time Finland has 133 more televote points than Sweden. That is quite some point since most entries didn't even receive 100 points in the final so can you imagine hahaha. I voted for Spain(and I am not Spanish or anything) Me and my father adored that song and we considered it a piece of art. I was shocked when I saw the lowest televote score. She deserved better. I also expected Austria to do better at the televote actually. I was happy with the score of Norway. I was a little surprised by the high jury score for Israel, because I thought juries would vote more for Spain, but I don't know where the juries look at. Serbia to me didn't sound 100% like what you said there was something wrong with the sound. In general I heard problems with the sounds which is sad because it did have effect on the song and for some artists more than others. I can't remember hearing that previous years. I do know that Blanca is certainly a performer I would like to see live because from what I have seen she sounds very impactful live. In generally I had issues with getting headaches at this Eurovision because there was too much happening with the camera work. Am I the only one that experienced being annoyed by the constant moving camera even when the artist was performing?. It seemed somewhat chaotic. The hosts did well.

[@josecalero5005]

It seems to be an accepted opinion by most Eurofans and reviewers that most people listen to the songs for the first time on the Final night but then why would anyone not enough interested in Eurovision as to check the songs before the contest bother to vote? Nowadays the fans of the contest seem to be very passionate about songs and singers and i can imagine them jumping to the phones like possessed because for them A or B MUST be the winner,. I cant imagine this attitude in someone who just listens to the songs for the first time on Final night

[@danielhorder3724]

One of the twitter comments on the Australian broadcast of ESC about Eaea was ‘ this is causing me Spain without the S’

[@josecalero5005]

What I have never understood about Eurovision is how It is possible that jury "experts" from different countries in Europe end Up always giving their higher points to the same songs. Or the jurors profile and music background IS very similar or It makes no sense.

[@Wamubodo]

I think I have a question. We talk about the love of an ethnic song. We talk about Albania, Armenia and all the Eastern countries. And off course the Southern ones. But is there a way we as Western=Europe could send in an ethnic song.? What is an ethnic song? Is it just the language? Being from the Netherlands choose between Sieneke and S10? Why there is no real ethnic song? Same for Belgium, UK, Sweden, Denmark and Germany.. How we could improve this without being throwing out of the final?

[@msch7620]

France sent Celtic music in Breton last year but it wasn’t good. Spain sent flamenco this year. Western Europe has folk music.

[@Wamubodo]

@@msch7620 But do Albanian people see their music as ethnic? I think for them it is also folk music. If the Netherlands would send a song in Frisian (official language) would it be ethnic? It is more about the definition of the word. La Zarra was sooo French but somehow it doesn't qualify as ethnic. Was KEiiNO ethnic? It is not a big issue but just a thought. But as we say "we like a good ethnic song" (and I do) what do we mean? Not just a pop song? I voted for Spain this year but I wouldn't call it ethnic. It is a part of Spain I know so I'm familiar with it. Same goes for tango, salsa, fado, schlager and le chanson. Is it the language or the music or the combination of both? I think the last. But it's probably my Post ESC Depression (PED should be recognized). I really loved this year.

[@msch7620]

@@Wamubodo Fulenn in 2021 was indeed ethnic. It’s the type of songs that is popular in parties in Brittany and is specific to the region. In France, each region has an identity. Corsican music sound nothing like the music in Brittany. I don’t consider LaZarra ethnic. It was quite stereotypical and meant to appeal foreigners. Accordeon would be more ethnic Northern France/Paris. It’s not just the language, it’s the instruments used.

[@lizp4819]

If you liked this years flag parade you should watch the 2019 flag parade!!

[@AlesiaMichelle]

I saw it… 2016 was better than 2019 to me and this year tops them all

[@TotalbadassX]

The people saying the juries didn’t spread the points??? The televote has done just that over the past few years. Remember 2021? 0 points went to 4 countries.

[@abbyroed]

Guuuurl, what did France in was that staging!!! Zara was fine. But, there wasn't a WOW moment. I thought the pillar was going to be a reveal, and then it wasn't. And then she was on a pillar and then what? What she gonna do? Where are the dancers dancing? Where is the artist bopping! She really tried to deliver that WOW moment but it wasn't there sis. The French flag in LED and pyro ain't it sis. Might has well have had her on an Eiffel Tower, holding a bouquet of baguettes, gnawing on some macarones drinking wine à la John Travolta. 😐

[@ESC_ChrisM]

Just want to keep this short on jury final - I was in the crowd at it and a number of people are making the comment about Noa and costume malfunction - Honestly - it was completely un-noticeable - I didn't see it, it didn't matter, it had no impact. Noa performed excellently even if she wasn't in my personal top performers. Spain - As soon as I came out of the jury show (I had gone in telling my friends - just wait for Spain, it is incredible - none of them enjoyed it. It was in nobody's memorable performances). The main issue in the crowd for Spain was that Blanca Paloma was invisible. You couldn't see her - she was behind the curtain for so long and when she finally came out it didn't have any special feel. So as soon as I got out I dropped it from competing with Loreen for top jury right down to around 8th or 9th (which is where it finished in the jury - I do agree it was robbed in the televote). In the arena on jury night, the biggest reactions were for Finland, France and Belgium. Loreen didn't get such a big reaction, because her performance was made for TV, not a live stage. She was way at the back, she didn't grab the crowd, but obviously on the screens it came across incredibly and I do think she's a very deserving winner overall. I personally just didn't connect with her - I was at the Amsterdam pre-party and all the artists were coming out to get on a bus to go back to the hotel, coming over to talk to about 40 of us who were hanging around and taking photos and joking around - particularly Kaarija - and then Loreen comes out surrounded by 6 security guys and whisked into her own private vehicle. That for me was a switching moment on my feelings on her (although I actually think that was probably her management doing that, but as I don't know how these things work it was just super weird and put a downer on all the rest coming out to joke around and have fun). The song, however, the performance, her professionalism on stage, I don't think anyone can objectively say she didn't deserve the win. France's result still shocks me having been at the jury show. I didn't hear bad singing, but in the crowd it's always hard to tell, the reception was incredible. Everyone loved her, loved the performance, and that jury score was probably, post-jury show, the biggest surprise for me of the night. I wasn't at all shocked Belgium scored so highly jury-wise with the reception, professionalism, the campness and feel-good nature of the song.

[@benjaminblackburn7715]

Congratulations Sweden but I'm sad for France

[@allmight2795]

IMHO 49/51 is a fair system. Juries just need more diversity in age, experience, and genre specialties and aren’t just record label or radio people. Also an increase in jurors. 5? 🤮Give me a break. If Romania can spend 60,000+ euros on a lackluster staging they can afford to pay more jurors.

[@in_wino_veritas]

True, instead of minimizing jury power or outright abolish them, we should reform and elevate them and change the structure of jurors, like age, maybe send in people, who have written out of the box entries, maybe even performed them on the Eurovision stage. And maybe also people who are open to music outside of rock and pop.

[@RuddeyBoy90]

I voted for Spain from the Netherlands! It clearly did not work 😅. But I voted for Sweden and Finland too! I was not able to choose haha. And Armenia and Slovenia got a vote from me 😊

[@noamyoeli700]

DEF 60/40% tele/jury for the finals y'all

[@hlloret]

Blanca Paloma wrote the song, made the staging, the lights... everything....! And 5 points got from the televote... This is not fair in anyway.... I wouuld like another kind of Eurovision song contest.... Congratulations...!!!

[@alexandrenabais6053]

Im sorry what??? Best flag parade we have ever???? WHAT??? Alesia...girl...No. You seen 2019? NOW THAT was the best ever. I honestly thought this was a weak flag parade, and it has been a weak flag parade since that 2019 contest.

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Clearly I disagree. 2016 was better than 2019 and this year topped 2016. Boom.

[@marcosm1342]

We need all the juries have your professional mind. Can we have around 200 clones of you?

[@ssbubayo1621]

Booty, booty, booty, booty, booty so faaaatt😭😭😭 My fav moment of this years eurovision, and it will find a place in my heart till I’m in my grave!!

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Amen!!!

[@_xander_x]

WHAT 👏🏼 HAPPENED 👏🏼 ROBERT 👏🏼 💀 💀 💀

[@NoOne-ku4bo]

Alesia prefers new out of the box songs. She also really wants to stick with that Petra Mede thing. You know what you get. Now I understand how people think and vote. Shouldn't come as a surprise. Don't underestimate the recognizable. The out of the box gives you attention and the recognizable pinpoints your preferences. Some lean to like more the staging, dressing and charisma. Others like the song itself and the vocals more. Or you value the lyrics and the message the most. An out of the box song doesn't give you momentum unless there also is a recognizable trait making it relevant to the most of the people. Make your conclusions yourself.

[@mattiasp6554]

What if televoters gave points to the top 20? 1-16,18,20,22,24. Sort of 60/40. France would be 8th for example. Estonia 20th. Croatia 7th. Poland 10th etc. Sweden would get 989p (649+340) and finland 960p (810+150)

[@domshaheen7356]

The flag parade was perfect. Truly iconic.

[@noxpop]

to be fair about Spain, for a lot of countries flamenco isn't much more original or "new" than cha cha cha, on the contrary

[@tenjanuaryeverywhere]

I think most of the people voting are not eurofans, just locals watching Eurovision that night

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Well duh... LOL We know that. That's a fact. :-)

[@tenjanuaryeverywhere]

@@AlesiaMichelle Well, of all the comments, was it necessary to answer me with that? Sorry for stating a not obvious fact since we don’t know how many people vote in Eurovision and some years weren’t that obvious. Again, sorry for commenting facts nobody knows for sure. Great videos.

[@87leafar]

In the case of our girl Mimicat the running order just kill her chances to finish high, she deserve at least top 15, if this is the way jurys work in the next years than evrybody gonna bring a normal pop song so the contest is become more and more dull !! And let's be real this year was pretty mid to bad... but congratulations to Sweden, in the final I vote for Spain, Albania and Norway.

[@tosvus]

I'll keep posting this suggestion, I hope SOMEONE who can make a difference can bring it up... Please both Jury and Televote should give points to EVERY COUNTRY (Rank with 0 points to 25 points). That way, if you end up #11 in 26 countries you don't get 0 points and get below someone who got #25 place in 25 countries but #10 in ONE country (getting 1 point currently). There are some good entries that probably just fell off the cliff because they weren't ranked quite high enough to get points and then suddenly they get ranked equally to bad entries?? Blanka would have done better I think, probably Germany too. On the Jury side, I think Finland and Norway would have done way better.

[@sandrogattorno4962]

I agree that needed a new matematic formula that involves every entry. Maybe nothing change in the hight ranked but i feel that can be more faire for the middle and low positions.But I also think that more clarity is needed on what is voted and why, above all on the part of the juries, a vote by category and a final aggregate, type; Lyrics, arrangement, execution, originality etc. It would also be useful to give specific directives on the composition of the jury, 5 discographers (perhaps in their 60s) give a different opinion compared to 5 artists currently in their careers, music critics have different opinions and interests compared to retired musicians or singers and so on.

[@jordanwilson6490]

What does Latvia need to do to qualify at this point 😵‍💫 (just not be Latvia I guess 🤷‍♀️)

[@shawnverbonac5971]

First "Ads, Ads, Ads." In 2022, then Bob the sound man in 2023

[@GospodinNelson]

At least we should be happy Blanca Paloma has 3 digits number of points in total. I think that's still success given how usually Spain performs in the final.

[@Crowleas]

What?? Ukraine 2016 the last winner out of the box??? No no no. Italy 2021 was out of the box. Israel 2018 was definitely very very out of the box!!

[@UsernameUsername0000]

10:53 I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. Romania was in my top 10 before that performance. It’s now my dead last place. That performance was horrific.

[@AlesiaMichelle]

The NS performance was terrible. Please.

[@UsernameUsername0000]

@@AlesiaMichelle And? We were ignoring it for hopes of an improvement. Then the actual performance happened.

[@Mloofylicious]

Bosnia isn't coming back since the country can't repay the money they owe to EBU and the public media service stated it's no longer their priority anyway. If we'rew already bringing back small countries like Luxembourg, I'd love to see Vatican City join the party as well. That would be hilarious.

[@vixwza8553]

The big 5 countries should not qualify automatically, everyone should complete in the semis, both juries and public should vote, but public vote should have more power. Thank you 😊

[@Afer-Dita-]

Albania ❤️🇦🇱

[@Chanelistap]

And one last thing - you keep bashing Sweden but actually *THANKS TO THEM* we have this new voting format being presented live (split juries & public) so we got to see Kaarija's happiness when he found out he won the televote. Had he participated in 2015 or earlier he would have found out about it on a plane on his way home.

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Who is “you,” you must be referencing fans in general and not me

[@Chanelistap]

​@Alesia Michelle omg Queen hahaha you're right, I was ranting and obviously I meant other people, not you. If only English had different pronouns for the 2nd person singular & plural like other languages😂 cheers Alesia!🎉

[@ambicicek]

Alesandra 🇳🇴 was robbed by jury! 3rd in televote with 216 votes vs 17th in jury with 50 votes ...? I am so happy for Alesandra for finishing in top 5 and becoming internationaly sucessful with her hit. By comparison to winner Loreen, Alesandra is a fresh, young newcommer ready to start her carreer 🔥🔥

[@lighthouse620]

You need to listen to the jury show the quality was really bad nothing compared to how she was at the grand final

[@FranzSdoutz]

In culinary terms we would call "paella valenciana" or "pasta amatriciana" a REGIONAL dish, NOT ethnic food. "Pizza" became an international flavour since the English have no taste (at all). Still Sam Ryder is never referred to as a generic etho-English Elton John impersonator, nor is Loreen expected to sound regionally specific. I personally can not tell the difference between East Coast and West Coast Hip-Hop. Just Imagine me labelling such originality "ethnic" though ...

[@samuelgalea7679]

Next year more than half will be Swedish written songs 🤷‍♂️

[@mercedesgc]

To end in the last place anyways, I think, at least Germany should send a song in german.🤔

[@priyaravindran6150]

I’m not sure what you consider different. To me, Kalush Orchestra was different. Folk music infused with rap isn’t something you hear every day, let alone at Eurovision. Kalush paved the way for all the countries to send songs that had rap verses in them or were rap-based like Finland. I think Italy before that was also different. Yes, it was rock, but it was Italian rock and different from Lordi( or even different from any of the rock acts this year). Toy in 2018 was also different, because even though the chorus was your stereotypical female-empowerment type of verse, all those chicken noises and the way it was performed and sung, was different. 1944 by Jamala was different. It wasn’t folk nor was it pop. It had many different elements telling a personal story. In regards to fashion, it is subjective, so it’s fine for us to disagree, but I guess our tastes are very different, because I disagreed on nearly everything you said. I loved Alika’s outfit. I could have done without the tassels on the arms, but the color went with her staging, and I loved that it wasn’t a gown or a unitard that we have seen on Eurovision thousands of times. It was giving me Jamala vibes. Her earrings were stunning, and I loved the white shoes. Her outfit and Albina’s among the women were the only ones that were memorable to me. Blanca Paloma’s outfit was one of the worst. Those white pants did not belong on that stage, and I think her aesthetics is just one of the reasons she scored so low in the televote. She was singing a super traditional song, and she wore a clubbing top and trousers. Her dancers’ outfits were better than hers. Israel, I don’t really think there’s anything creative in a bra and underwear. Those baggy pants made me cringe. Reminded me of MC Hammer pants that needed to stay in that era. She did look nice though. La Zarra, yes, she looked good too, but there was nothing special about the gown. I hated Loreen’s outfit. The material looked cheap, and her hair looked straight out of Avatar, and those nails made me want to throw up. I loved Alessandra’s outfit. Yea, another unitard, but the suede green with gold accents, looking like a metal plate, and the crown on her head really made her look like “Queen of the Kings.” On the men’s side, I can agree with you that Tvorchi were the best dressed, both on-stage and on the turquoise carpet, and I also liked Croatia, coz even though their costumes were campy, they told a story. Their Croatian and Ukrainian-colored robes on the turquoise carpet were fab, and the faces of the kids representing children who have been harmed in Ukraine, made me sad and warmed my heart at their thoughtful and beautiful selves. Worst-dressed for me was Belgium, Romania and Greece. I would’ve liked Belgium had he not worn shorts. The whole jacket and shirt with shorts look is just terrible. Fine for 8 year olds, not for grown men or teenagers for that matter. Finally, it’s fine to not like Lithuania/Monika’s outfit, but why bring up her body? It’s ok for Kaarija to run around shirtless with his flabby stomach, and people celebrated him, but Monika cannot wear a short dress, because of her “thigh meat?” She isn’t even thick. She’s just not skinny, and that’s ok. Why not just criticize the dress without bringing up her body as a talking point?

[@mercedesgc]

I, personally, don’t think that Agonei’s song would have done well in the contest. Sorry

[@AlesiaMichelle]

I'm not saying it would have.... I'm saying MAYBE- ultimately we'll never know.

[@abbyroed]

Germany sent an AMAZING song, and INCREDIBLE artist!!!! It was just going against Finland, and Australia, and Serbia. Finland was already vacuuming a huge chunk of Televotes. Australia was STUNNING!!!! That performance, staging, the song, the visuals. ATE IT UP!!! NOMNOMNOM. Serbia's audio is what killed it, it was like ??? Where the singing go? Is he whispering??? You could make out with the TV you still couldn't hear Serbia. Germany was just in a genre where two power houses funnelled the majority of the votes. Germany is automatically going to be in next year's final. This year was all about the underdog. Especially with Sweden being the early favourite to win.

[@zeevmon1]

Norwhy take alot of scandvian points...

[@noamyoeli700]

Wattttt???🏳️🚩🏁 Just me UNDERWHELMED by this year's flags parade?

[@luchoney5868]

A friendly reminder to all the people saying Eurovision needs to get rid of juries or should be more like UMK Without juries, Chanel would not have won BenidormFest 2022 and would never have competed in Eurovision. Instead Tanxuguerras would have been sent and would have done a fulenn and flopped. So yeah, i think the juries should stay.

[@markeeecmarkoni2855]

I'm sorry, but I believe regardless of everything in authenticity, but for me the Spanish one was a very irritating song to listen to...very hard too enjoy that aggressive howling voice and I believe that's why it got 5 points. It was not good for regular listeners

[@samuelgalea7679]

I don’t get why Spain keeps being brought up. It wasn’t good for me? Expected result

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Because it was my number 1 song this year and people in the comments brought it up

[@samuelgalea7679]

@@AlesiaMichelleit isn’t just this channel tbh calling it an injustice. At the same time it was last in the televote so it definitely wasn’t just me I guess

[@GospodinNelson]

Regarding 2023 songs I said that multiple times, this wasn't strong year, but it could have been. So many countries picked wrong this year and then we ended up having average year. Now, I don't think winner contenders were bad, I think we can say that we had couple of strong winner-worthy songs, but speaking for other songs that were never going to win I think we could have better contest. Regarding BBC production and hosting I would say it was just okay to me. The sound was obviously the biggest issue this year, but at least the stage worked as planned. I didn't like opening ceremony, I think last year's turqoise carpet was far more glamurous and interesting. The hosts were great, no complaint, but I think I liked Laura and Alessandro last year a bit more. The postcards seemed to be exciting and interesting, but to me personally they were rather underwhelming and boring, still decent compared to last year. Overall the show was solid and I think BBC did it fine, but I must say tho I think the show would be bigger and the venue would be bigger if this was hosted because UK won instead of hosting on behalf of Ukraine. If UK won last year the contest would probably be hosted in Manchester.

[@addieb3193]

The Jewish population is literally 0.2% of the world so I doubt that was the reason Noa got the most votes from the world. I think they just liked her the best (interesting that there’s no “reason” for why others were first in votes, just her…).

[@AlesiaMichelle]

I said a few time throughout this video and my grand final stream that Isreal’s execution was great. She sounded good looked good- period. Also 0.2% is still 16/14 million people. Someone asked me SPECIFICALLY about her being #1 in the ROTW vote. I also noted I thought Spain would do better in the ROTW vote because of how many Spanish speaking folks are outside of Spain- but alas.

[@joshidol]

Alesia, the only country that having an “ethnic” song doesn’t pay off is Spain… the usual BS…I don’t understand if it is a language thing or what ! so unfair

[@drinkbob4557]

You forget Alvan & Ahez last year with France

[@ysteinlwer235]

Omg poor Robert!

[@AlesiaMichelle]

Don't feel bad for him. He got paid.

[@xavallokiyo]

para el tal Rui Brito q dice q sobrevaloramos nuestra propuesta: lo valemos, ok? tenemos mucha cultura, musica y talento q ofrecer. Y si nos ilusionamos con nuestra propuesta es porque creemos en ella. Un portugués como tú no tiene mucho q decir cuando vosotros pasais de las candidaturas portuguesas. Dile a la television de tu pais q dé mas dinero para el staging de vuestra actuación y luego criticas. Eso es lo triste y que gente como tú exista...

[@user-uk5dy4hh7g]

Stay mad toxic spanish fans 😂❤️

[@tomate3391]

Let's be real about the Spanish song, and I know it will hurt: People outside the Spanish cultur could not connect to that song. Even a lot of the Spanish people themselve had their difficulties with that song, read the Spanish comments after Benidorm. I mean, I as German, also would not very excited when they would send a German "Volksmusik" song to the ESC. I like the Spanish culture, I ve been a lot in Spain and my mediocre Spanish permits me to talk to the people. Once I was asked what I thought about Blanca, I said the same as here. And the answer was more or less: Don't beat around the bush, it is a ulgy song. Again, it is not an ugly song. Musicwise it is very well done. But people outside that flamenco bubble can not connect with that song. pure ethnic songs will always have a hard time at the ESC. I know there are always exceptions. But on the other hand to choose a song like that from Sweden and put it that high also not serving to achieve more risky or creative stuff. I have already forgotten how the Song "Tattoo" goes. That kind of sings we heard thousand of times, especially at the ESC. But I remember clearly "Eaea" and "Cha cha cha".

[@divineartofmusic1]

Sweden is great pop song , but yhis much better then the rest.... I dont think so. For me , she is top 3 , but winner.... I mean congrays...

[@BiteBolt_77]

Loreens song was kinda boring. Didnt deserve the win imo

[@AlesiaMichelle]

"deserve," hmmm that's a relative term.