EV Carnage MG 4 SE Milk Float Full Test

[@davidcook2076]

Don't you dare stop making these videos, you are getting the message out there...Well done mate 🤛

[@timsbird1971]

yep - people aren't buying EVs any more - not like the best selling car full stop isn't the Tesla Model Y...

[@Isclachau]

@@timsbird1971It’s the most got rid of car once people realise it’s cack 😂

[@pachy444]

​@@IsclachauYes because you have loads of experience owning and driving one don't you 😂😂😂😂 Lay off the funny cigarettes 🌴

[@Isclachau]

@@pachy444 Don’t cry, just because somebody knows more than you.

[@Glamrock01]

It's not an engine, it's not a car, it's a Mobility Scooter with attitude.....

[@andemnon657]

My wifes Mobility Scooter has lead acid batteries, which makes it a hell of a lot safer by comparison!

[@Glamrock01]

@@andemnon657 I am also in that position hence my comment, yes they are safer...😁

[@harold6863]

@@andemnon657😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@timsbird1971]

And is an ICE car a lawn mover with attitude?

[@Glamrock01]

@@timsbird1971 I'll take that, at least it does something - cuts grass and collects it gracefully...🤣🤣

[@strikeystrikey8317]

In 39 years of motoring i have barely spent much more than £24k cumulatively on all the cars i have owned in that time. You really couldnt pay me to drive an EV until cost/range/charge time is on par with ICE , which of course they never will.

[@DigiDriftZone]

Indeed, I bought an A4 for £7k back in 2008, sold it for £2k after owning it for 9 years, then bought a C Class for £12k, sold it for £6k (would've been higher if not for ULEZ), now bought a 5 series for £12k with a 1 year warranty, planning to sell it for £11k in a year when I move to Australia - total £13k over 17 years and these were all really comfortable German saloons. They also all do 60mpg, so cost about half per mile to run vs 70p/kWh public chargers in an EV... How many screws must you have loose to buy one of these MGs...

[@bwarey52]

At 60mpg that's around 11.5 pence per mile so around 10x the cost if you charge from home on the correct tariff

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@bwarey52 half the population can't charge at home, I live in a cul de sac and the parking is about 20m away from the house, similar issues with many apartment buildings, even in new builds, most do not have EV charging still. But regardless, your maths is flawed. Even if you do have a night tariff, that would increase your average day electricity bill by £20 or so, so if you drive the UK average of 7k miles per year, you're paying 4p per mile to charge but an extra 5p per mile in extra electricity costs - so at that point, your saving is only about 30% for a higher purchase price and inconvenience, hardly 10x. This 30% saving quickly evaporates if you charge on public chargers with any kind of frequency. Then you have either additional depreciation or a battery replacement which on average happens at 8-10 years, that averages around 14.7p / mile in battery depreciation or replacement costs - so no matter how you swing it, even with a night tariff you're still looking at around 24p / mile vs 11.5p / mile with diesel. This is actually assuming you can get the 10p / kWh tariff that was available last year, just checked the latest from Octopus in RM3 and the cheapest is now 16.58p / kWh, wowza! - I wouldn't rely on those discounted night rates to last...

[@bwarey52]

@@DigiDriftZone British gas have just released a 5p tariff ..👍

[@bwarey52]

@@DigiDriftZone you can try and blind people with lot's of flawed data but only a few luddites will listen. You just said the life or a battery is 8/10 year's when the majority of manufacturers offer 8 year warranty!

[@torino390]

400 volts and bargain basement Chinese build quality. What could possibly go wrong?

[@neildenniss4833]

Probably not £20000 worth of faults so just go and buy an id3 for £40000.

[@pauly9336]

It's all fun and games until it bursts into flames. The future My ASS. Cheers from Australia 👍

[@timsbird1971]

Except an EV is 1/6th as likely to burst into flames as an ICE car and 1/20th as likely as a hybrid, genius.

[@phenogen8125]

But it more than compensates with toxicity of its plasma demise; fulfilling very effective long term health impairment or death to those downwind and of course the toxins in environment; impossible to clean up and now in the food chain for all to enjoy. Lithium is a neurological cosh that lobotomizes and stupefies; maybe all going to plan. the Cobalt Kiddies Collective applaud your enthusiasm and niavety @@timsbird1971

[@HappyBagger]

@@timsbird1971 twaddle

[@daverichardson8918]

Tim’s Bird has more miles on her than an EV

[@pauly9336]

​@@timsbird1971 Hey EV loverboy. Try putting out that EV fire that is less likely to catch on fire😂😂. Burn baby burn because you ain't putting out that fire🤣🤣

[@petertaranscorsese2900]

From Daily Telegraph - A warehouse in France storing lithium batteries caught fire on Saturday, amid growing fears over their safety. The fire on Saturday afternoon occurred at a storehouse in the southern town of Viviez, in Aveyron, where 900 tons of lithium batteries were waiting to be recycled. Authorities ordered residents to stay indoors and keep their windows closed as thick smoke billowed over the town. No injuries or deaths were reported and the cause of the fire has yet to be established.

[@davidorr6627]

Another one in New Zealand last week. A pile of lithium batteries extracted from wrecked cars caused NZ$400k damage and destroyed about 74 cars in a salvage yard. The cars were wrecks already but that's a stack of possibly reusable parts destroyed.

[@STho205]

It's an MG. It won't go over 200 miles without stopping for service. The tradition continues.

[@Captain_Scarlet_SIG]

It’s not an MG mate I’ve got an MG F and it ain’t anything like this 💩

[@STho205]

@@Captain_Scarlet_SIG it's a joke. So you own an F....sorry bout that.

[@micksroversmg558]

Miss my old T16 Turbo powered van! That put few modern hot hatches bait up! 🇬🇧🇬🇧💪⛽💪🇬🇧🇬🇧! Can keep all the Chinese ones! Unless you want too supply some more body repair panels! 😂🤣😜

[@Actually-y7j]

It's a MGLGTBQ

[@stevewhitmill2037]

Don't blasphemer the name. MGs may have been a little unreliable, but they were real cars.

[@karencarroll1324]

9 years ago i paid 300 for a micra k11,never missed a beat,never failed an mot ,doesnt burn oil,and now worth 3 times what i paid for it,24k my a4se.

[@andyjackson8322]

And passed by an EV....😆

[@markburton8303]

k11 micra never failed an mot?! hahaha horse shit.

[@chrisaris8756]

Even if you normally only paddle around locally milk floats aren’t perfect. Our friend bought a BMW i3 (is that right?) last year because all she does is local runs and a 20 mile run to her son’s who has a home charger. All fine until last week she had a call that her father 200 odd miles away had been taken ill. She wanted to get to him immediately- but wait……virtually no charge in the car so she had to go find a charger - luckily there’s one fairly near - charge and then stop and charge again because the bloody thing has no range. So it took her an extra 3 hours to get there. She’s now driving a one year old 3 series petrol. Lesson learned. Almost forgot to say…. the dealer she bought the 3 series from didn’t want her milk float, so now she has to try and sell it privately. Good luck!

[@hunchanchoc8418]

Yep, MANY times with grandparents or in-law's parents, I've had to make a 200 mile dash with only a moment's notice. I'm always reminded of it, when I vaguely start pondering potential ownership of an EV. And it always dissuades me.

[@timsbird1971]

That's a total made up load of tosh.

[@gilleyb1900]

@@timsbird1971of course it is because you say so.

[@timsbird1971]

@@gilleyb1900 no - because it's not consistent and the times make no sense.

[@daverichardson8918]

I think timbsbird bought a milk float and now he’s pissed because it’s not worth a dime ⚡️💩

[@NickyB62]

So its got a Mk1 Austin Allegro style steering wheel & a Mk2 Austin 1100 style speedo red strip on your dashboard. So is the milkfloat sort of retro or was BL years ahead of their time?

[@andyarmstrong1175]

Ha ha nice to see that someone else still remembers the wacky Allegro steering wheel! 👍

[@andyjackson8322]

Same a some Porsches of Ferraris or Audis.....🙄

[@chriswarren2599]

Allegro years ahead of its time.

[@andemnon657]

£24k to buy, but to sell it after you have had it for a year or three, assuming its still working, is close to zero as even the dealers won't buy it back. When even a scratch on the battery cover beneath the vehicle is enough to write it off completely, there isn't really much to be said except perhaps, why would anyone buy one of those things?

[@moragkerr9577]

Where do you hear all that rubbish? Other KZbin channels that don't have a clue, like this one?

[@andyjackson8322]

Oh dear......😂

[@bigbillcarson]

My friend picked a used one, £1500 23 plate with 7000 on the clock

[@scaryfakevirus]

The star is a battery discharge button like most buttons on an EV are.

[@moragkerr9577]

The star actually changes the temperature and the fan speed so you can do it without taking your eyes off the road. Or you can assign it something else, but that's the most popular. You set these buttons up so you don't normally have to touch the centre screen while you're driving. But you have to have a wee bit of brain to comprehend this, which nobody who refers to an EV as a "milk float" actually has, so there is that.

[@scaryfakevirus]

@@moragkerr9577 It was a joke.

[@moragkerr9577]

@@scaryfakevirus I know. But sometimes a serious reply to a joke can be informative.

[@scaryfakevirus]

@@moragkerr9577 Yes that's correct, but I didn't think you realised.🙂

[@moragkerr9577]

@@scaryfakevirus Just took the opportunity to explain, since the idiot who made the video didn't. He wants to diss EVs, I get that, but driving around aimlessly in a car you haven't made any effort to familiarise yourself with and sneering about how you don't know how to make it do this or that therefore it's rubbish is something anyone can do, with any car. Once you DO know how everything works there are some annoying foibles (which are being fixed with software updates), but overall it's a joy to drive and fantastic value for money. If you want to sneer, at least take the trouble to find a genuine issue to sneer at.

[@philiptabberer9796]

The Austin Allegro came with a square steering wheel. So nowt new there.

[@matthewcoathupe8716]

#1 go to KZbinr right now - straightalking & funnier than anything on the TV for at least the last decade

[@martinhudson2552]

As my wife always says “that’s not an MG”. By the way she owned several classic sports cars including MGBGT. Now if i buy an MG it will be a classic BGT 😊. Great video as always. Very informative and entertaining 🤣

[@user-bz9cb8bp2y]

EV, love the tech, hate the price... Paid £100...for my 1.6 diesel. Into year 8 now and with 226 thousand miles on clock... Still going strong 😊

[@hunchanchoc8418]

What make and model, please ? :-)

[@user-bz9cb8bp2y]

@@hunchanchoc8418 citroen xsara Picasso... Doubles as the work van......

[@fredfred2363]

And it'll probably keep going to 500k miles if maintained. At 200k, it's just run in.

[@davidyoung9561]

EV, I hate them. No character at all. Just so boring.

[@jameswade4097]

You can put a MG badge on a Dodgem, but its still only good for the Fairground

[@micksroversmg558]

Rather have Austin Alegro me rocking a Montego estate and a rover 420 diesel never no Chinese MG for me best of British scrap for ever! The future is to drive stuff from the past! Keep old school cars rolling is best recycling!

[@bigfist255]

Last time I saw a shake like that was in a 1960s Ford anglia with rich tea buscuit tyres .

[@mikemcandrew9585]

Brilliant vids buddy

[@timhicks2154]

It’s re-VOLTing

[@Glamrock01]

I see what you did there....😁

[@ispy3836]

Watt?

[@timhicks2154]

@@Glamrock01 - I don’t charge for that comment

[@deansh8506]

Who do you think you are? The mac master?

[@timhicks2154]

@@deansh8506 - I wish! I’d like to be in Australia

[@jamessmyth5949]

Don't press those strange buttons on the steering wheel. One of them could well be the ejector seat control.

[@michaelketley1252]

My MG4 is perfect. I’ve had it for just over a year without any problems. It can easily do 200 miles without a charge, summer and winter. Cost peanuts to run from a home charger. Yearly service charge £108. After 7000 miles I have 5mm on the tyres. What’s not to like?

[@dmitrikhmelevski9214]

Do you have any guilt in supporting communist foreign state instead of local English manufacture?

[@mikewhitehead50]

@@dmitrikhmelevski9214 it'd be a bit limiting if you stick to English manufacture, but I agree buying Chinese isn't ideal. Same with a lot of products though, whether it's clothes, phones or tat off ebay, people don't care if it's cheap.

[@andrewwaller5913]

How much has it depreciated in that year though? Is the range the same now as it was a year ago?

[@michaelketley1252]

@@dmitrikhmelevski9214 No.

[@michaelketley1252]

@@andrewwaller5913 Range exactly the same (in common with all MG4 owners) . No plans to sell the car as it is so good, so no loss incurred. They don’t catch fire either !

[@carparkcampers8407]

Great video & just subbed 👍

[@peterrose3304]

Does the mg come with battery pre heater for winter use ,seems reasonable price too ,😊

[@sandyguest4622]

Tony,well delivered,great star,summed it up and delvered the finale,great job. also very fair as well.

[@bentullett6068]

MG now stands for Mings Garages

[@thomasmyers4089]

Have you found the seat ejection button yet.

[@nib213]

I’ve got a 16 year old VW Caravelle and I have no interest in changing it for a new car. It cost me £19k twelve years ago and has a range of 600 miles. There is no way an EV would last that long for that money.

[@Senior_Mustard]

Austin Allegro steering wheel?

[@longrange1977]

The "Quartic" steering wheel, 70's British Leyland at their finest. First thing I thought as well!

[@andrewwaller5913]

Austin Allegro build quality 😂

[@richardrichard9631]

Yes, but they attached it to the steering column in the electric car.. dam Chinese

[@michaelbolton7563]

Oh how's they laughed when the quartic steering wheel was fitted to the Allegro, just because it was British, and now they all have them and nobody bats an eyelid.

[@richardrichard9631]

I agree but Austin forgot to attach it to the steering column

[@DesperateForSanity]

Watched Father Ted and saw an actual milk float. Hilarious and probably a better utility vehicle.

[@micksroversmg558]

Speed 3 ha ha

[@michaelgodbold6247]

I used to drive a milk float 45 years ago.WHY would I want to drive one of then stupid things again???

[@EV-zc5uo]

Charge up to a 100% before you leave, plan ahead, get the right car and get to know the thing. Cornwall - Northampton takes one small charge in Chippenham Ionity (25% - 15 mins). Journey? 4h40mins. Cost? Whatever you pay at home to charge up (in my case 12 pounds) plus 13 pounds for the motorway charge (which is daylight robbery of course). I have a milk float as well - which would take over 6 hours and cost me 50 pounds - horses for courses I guess.

[@markrichardson4538]

We're the square dishes made by STC in Paignton?

[@barriewilliams4526]

I wonder what it will be like in 10 years time? Will it even do 10 years?

[@AntonyBall-hm4jo]

Not sure which model of MG it was but, I witnessed a near new one on fire in Cheshire (February this year) - it didn't do anything to improve my opinion of them!

[@russcattell955i]

Ah, the Par market special. Does it come with a complementary lone wolf design pullover ?

[@Stillbusy105]

Nice videos but would be nice to see some more of the car etc & interior maybe a quick walk around :)

[@bigmarkuk8374]

I think the square dishes were made at stc (later nortel) in paignton Devon

[@cliveteague2115]

Interesting review and very kind 😊of you

[@g8ymw]

Sqarial = Ariel Square 4, British motorbike of yore. Wasn't that steering wheel inspired by the Austin Aggro?

[@daveb2wright]

These were £27k last year. They must be discounting them to shift stock. Wonder what second hand values will be. Square steering wheel as seen on Austin Allegro in the seventies.

[@timsbird1971]

All EV makers are dropping prices because Tesla did and it rolled down hill. Sales numbers have been pretty static. But why bother with facts if you regularly watch this channel.

[@daverichardson8918]

That’s the problem with EV’s they don’t roll down hill, maybe if they did it would extend the range to within 30% of claimed range.

[@timsbird1971]

@@daverichardson8918 what rubbish are you going on about?

[@daverichardson8918]

@@timsbird1971 What I am saying Milk floats are💩 and only brainwashed dumbasses buy them

[@ryanjacques2007]

​@@daverichardson8918 They regen when going down hill, something ice cars don't do. Also this saves on brakes.

[@enclosingthefield]

One of you best rants, keep it up.

[@tomhilton5236]

Did you see that tosh last night on Channel 5, Petrol Vs Electric.

[@ThePanicman66]

If you have an EV car charging at home…does this affect your home insurance? I’m asking because of the cases I have heard about EV cars going up in flames when on charge.👍

[@bryanduncan6178]

No - another stamp on my bingo card, I'll be a winner by the evening!

[@norfunk]

Lol

[@grahamwalker9193]

I think the steering wheel is an updated version of the on fitted to the Austin Allegro from the late seventies

[@davelowe1977]

Bought my fully loaded 335d xdrive at 2 yrs old and 25k miles for £20k. I know what I'd rather have.

[@industrialmonk]

I still will never buy an EV but it's funny that the Chinese can do a better job of an EV than the rest of the world.

[@poliziagrammaticale9430]

There is absolutely nothing that the Chinese can do better than the rest of the world.

[@Kx110x]

It will be interesting to see what you would get one for as a one year or 18 months old car with low mileage . Presumably it will lose at least 50% of its value , as a shopping trolley it might not be a bad bet . Might be , maybe , could be , possible, Ok I don’t know so don’t shoot the messenger 😂

[@saxon-mt5by]

Lots on ebay from around 18 grand (so probably around £12-14k trade-in) - 1 year old and nominal mileage, none of them seem to be selling.@@Kx110x

[@andrewwaller5913]

​@@poliziagrammaticale9430They make nice Chinese food 😂

[@youbillyjojimbobtube]

Or as they call it, food!

[@brendanoreilly4846]

can you test drive the byd atto 3

[@cliveteague2115]

Interesting review and very kind 😊

[@terryosborn]

Had a star button on a previous Audi A3 which you could programme, I used to switch between radio and media.

[@shaonian]

The mg4 has two programmable buttons

[@oscarsurvey3853]

Hi, the jeans thing got me, we were so poor I had crossy-bots from the market and I am still damaged by it!

[@densalbeach1]

You poor lad, I feel your pain. All my mates had Wranglers and I had the same as you, only I knew them as X'ies!

[@AndrewTSq]

lol. most of my clothes I got from my older brothers when they grow out of them, brands no one have ever heard of.

[@moonshinepz]

A round rip to my hospital, which has NO EV charging points, the nearest being two miles away on an industrial estate would mean that I would get one day's charge out of one an have to recharge for the next day. This week I have been going every day for radiotherapy. Before that I have been going up every three weeks for months of chemo. That's he reality of these daft toys for rich people. How many EVs do I see in the cancer wing car park? Yes, that's right, none.

[@philsimpson3556]

Basically if you must have an EV this seems the one to try out. Cheap with reasonable range, looks OK, not too big like a brick. I have heard that the support from MG is dire though

[@stevewatkins228]

Give your finger to the EV ladies ! Lol! Tony you is a stud muffin!

[@nigelford936]

I own a mg hs and in my opinion it's one of the best cars I've ever owned best thing about it its petrol

[@ColinWatters]

Im in Delhi, India right now. Have seen three Electric MG here today. At least one appeared to be a Taxi.

[@davidorr6627]

I wonder whether for your 24k you get to actuall survive a major accident. I seriously doubt it. I bet the handling makes you more likely to end up in a serious accident to boot.

[@andemnon657]

Surviving a crash in an EV depends on how quickly you can get out, the very explosive nature of the batteries, not to mention the venting of cobalt etc. when compromised, it doesn't really matter which EV you are in, you don't want to be in a crash in one.

[@bryanduncan6178]

What a complete load of rubbish, this is a 5 star Euro NCAP car and the 5 they crashed for testing purposes didn't catch fire....

[@davidorr6627]

@@bryanduncan6178 You seriously think the Euro NCAP testing is valid. How cute. Maybe you should go and look at John Cadogan's videos about the Australian ANCAP testing, which is basically the same as Euro NCAP. Cars get a 5 star rating because they have all the fancy lane departure warnings etc, but will kill you in a side impact collision. Good luck with your Chinese shit-box cars. I'll be steering well clear of them.

[@bryanduncan6178]

Don't forget the tin foil hat as well....

[@davidorr6627]

@@bryanduncan6178 I won't be needing a tin foil hat as I'll be driving my non-Chinese proper car. You can keep the tin foil that the MG was made from.

[@MrChriss000]

The norm indeed, the range quoted by manufacturers is from that silly test where they use a rolling road and mostly run at 30 miles an hour equivalent. WITHOUT DRAG OR HILLS.

[@richardhowlett7398]

It’s a modern FSO , Lada , Yugo , etc .

[@normansmart7502]

Seems to be a lot of vibration on steering wheel going through your hands

[@davidedgar7338]

how much it lose me after a year with 30k miles on it? what is difference in running costs over this time? does it pay to have a slow pain in ass car that would take 2 - 4 charges for me to visit my family one way?

[@bryanduncan6178]

Why ask rhetorical questions?

[@DavidJones-lv6li]

This bloke I know got a floaty Tesla’s. Went to Exeter from Barnstaple. Thort had enuff charge. 3 peeps in car inc an 80yr old. No heating as red batt lite came on. She was not appy

[@nottmfunguy]

My jeans are badly fitting, as in they look bad on me, but comfortable and a cheap from Next, I guess I could qualify for one of these milk-floats. Never had a Sony Walkman, but had a personal cassette player with a radio as well. The radio never worked

[@johnwade1095]

Has the drivers door jammed yet? You could get a corolla for 28k and guess which one will still work in ten years.

[@lrg3834]

The 200 mile car (as advertised) that actually does 133 miles at highway speed. That's like buying a car that's advertised to get 30 mpg, and then when you drive it, it only gets 20 mpg. I believe that's called false advertising. Aren't there laws against that? Point: we need truth in EV advertising!

[@markburton8303]

you mean like every ICE car anyones ever bought?

[@emmettculleton7165]

Hyundai, I 10 seven grand 18,000 miles 53 miles to the gallon who wants a milk float 2019

[@actualfacts1055]

Around town basic transport, they look good in red.

[@bw1376]

No thanks. They are made in a CCP-owned factory. MG's parent company, SAIC, are now involved in a scandal where it looks like parts for their vehicles have been made by forced labour.

[@michaelgodbold6247]

The only mg I want to drive I've is a mg midget.now that's a real car

[@moragkerr9577]

Where did you get a brand new MG4 SE for £24,000? Inquiring minds want to know.

[@HappyBagger]

so what was its range in the end? And what is its range in "normal" non-motorway driving?

[@raychapman9247]

Remember allegros they did actually have a square steering wheel.

[@chriswarren2599]

Yes, and 50 years later Allegros are still trundling around? These pieces of shit?

[@Swaggerlot]

How does that price compare to the MG petrol equivalent?

[@bw1376]

They're all made in China. No thanks!

[@DigiDriftZone]

a Corsa is 19k new with 500 mile range and it's a much nicer ride in petrol, why would you get this lol - what's the range on this from 20-80% battery with the heating on at 70mph, about 80 miles (that's brand new, after 3 years, 70miles)? - hell you can get the mg3 in petrol for £14k if you're on a budget.

[@richardrichard9631]

To be honest a vauxhall corsa is a joke and always have been. I made the mistake when I was young of buying one and vowed never to waste my money on such rubbish again or a vauxhall car.

[@badchefi]

Car expert my arse - Tony is as clueless as ever.

[@chriswarren2599]

EV nonce alert!

[@6chhelipilot]

TBF, I would also not recommend buying a McLaren.

[@TNT-projects]

But for £12,500 I could buy a Kia picanta petrol and keep it about 12 years so almost a 2 for 1 deal ! 😂

[@alanc286]

Except in that time you will be spending more than £24,000 on fuel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidwright1752]

@@alanc286Thank god power is free

[@DigiDriftZone]

Assuming 12 years at the UK average of 8k miles per year, you'd be looking at around £10k in petrol assuming £1.40 / litre and 60mpg. Contrast that if you cannot charge at home, an EV with public charging would be about £23k in electricity at a generous 60p/kWh.

[@TNT-projects]

@@alanc286 public chargers cost more than petrol. And the depreciation is far less on a petrol car When you do eventually scrap the car you get £3-400 , where a “scrap my car” quote on an EV only offered £10!

[@DaveEtchells]

Sounds like a great deal, just don’t park it near anything flammable 😁

[@johnmcfarland9630]

Quartic steering wheel from a 1973 Allegro!

[@Cuzzazbuzz]

Funny how you can’t touch your mobile in a car but you can mess on with the in car TV screens these days!

[@acptelford1307]

Try the Cupra Formentor hybrid. I have a long, long list of issues with mine.

[@zitzong]

It is just a milk float! 100% correct

[@timhicks2154]

£24,000? For that? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Brian-om2hh]

You could pay £28k for a new petrol Focus if you prefer.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@Brian-om2hh Or £14k for a new petrol MG3 if you want similar quality to this EV.

[@timhicks2154]

@@Brian-om2hh - no thanks. FORD…Found On Road Dead / Fix Or Repair Daily. I’ll stick to my 22-year old Toyota.

[@BrainfromSpain]

Have no fear they are telling us that batteries are about to be much improved!! OK I'll wait or should I rush out and but a BetaMax before they bring out the VHS!!! Doh!

[@timhicks2154]

Sounds like a Kenwood Chef, I bet.

[@Ragnar009]

With 200m range, it would be annoying as an ICE vehicle. If I have to stop every other day for gasoline, I want to be driving a Ford Mustang V8!! Not a golf cart. As an EV it becomes even more annoying. How long does it take that thing to charge?

[@DigiDriftZone]

8 hours on a slow charger (e.g. your Tescos/Asdas, etc), about an hour on rapid chargers that usually cost about double per mile vs your common diesel.

[@Actually-y7j]

Maybe shocks, bushes or mounts have already gone.

[@david-hf3dk]

The 1973 Austin Aggro quartic steering wheel is back and it's bad !

[@richardrichard9631]

Yes , but this time they jabe improved it and attached it to the wheels

[@Critical_Stinking]

Only the best from Chairman LMAO

[@l00t3R]

Two charging stations near me were running off a generator.....oh dear the irony.

[@markday5797]

Would make a city car, grocery getter?

[@DigiDriftZone]

Or get tesco delivery and an electric bicycle? - will have better range :)

[@robpatterson754]

40000 new charging hubs being built as of this moment . How long before petrol forecourts start to disapear , and how will that effect fuel prices😮

[@robpatterson754]

Motor Fuel Group (MFG) is buying 337 petrol stations from Morrisons and more than 400 associated sites to develop ultra-rapid electric vehicle (EV) charging hubs in a £2.5 billion deal.

[@DigiDriftZone]

Well, you currently have something on the order of 100,000 fuel pumps in the UK, each one can service around 20 cars per hour. So to match the equivalent we'd need about 1.5m charge points as each. Around half of households can't charge at home, so lets say if half the population exclusively charge at home (which is not realistic with the ranges but let's go with that), that's still 750k charge stations you need, so around 19x more than they are supposedly building. The failure rate on the already built ones is astronomically high, that's excluding other problems such as vandalism, a lot depends on expanding the grid size which is 50 years away, charging speeds drop if multiple cars charge at once, etc, etc. Most of these also charge 60p/kWh or even 80p/kWh which make them over double the cost per mile vs a typical diesel. Enjoy your EV, those of us with any sense will hold back :)

[@robpatterson754]

get yourself a deckchair and get down to the beach canute

[@actualfacts1055]

Usable range is probably 150 miles .

[@mikehunt-w8u]

Cmon Tony,how about running it with the heater on,ect.Then we will get an idea on range,eh.

[@gordonyoung3668]

It's a Chinese MG a badge on wheels.

[@gordonbriggs2345]

200 mile range my arse.

[@HappyBagger]

He did 32 with the drop showing 48. Means he's gonna get around 130 miles. So less than 2 hours driving before he's got to waste hours at a charger again, paying 79p per kwh. Yep. Future? My arse

[@moragkerr9577]

Yeah, very droll. But I have no idea why your camera was shaking, because that car drives as smooth as silk. It may not have a deafening V8 engine, and it's certainly not "the quickest". If you want the quickest, buy the X-Power version because that does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds. And if you want to go long trips buy the Extended Range version because that can do over 300 miles between charges. Nevertheless the basic SE model will see off anything short of GTi at the lights, and the GTi driver had better be on the ball because this car goes *instantly*. It also gets up to over 90 before you quite realise what you're doing. Steering wheel buttons. You programme the stars with the functions you want. The right star usually does the HVAC so you can change the temperature and fan speed without taking your eyes off the road. The one above it lets you see different menus on the driver's screen, like check your tyre pressures and the 12v battery voltage. There are also buttons for voice controls for Android Auto (or Apple CarPlay) to enter a destination or make (or answer) a phone call. Just because you're too lazy to find out, or too thick to work it out, doesn't mean it doesn't work. And another thing. The right joystick button does alter the volume of the stereo, up for up and down for down, and left and right change the radio station or jump tracks on the USB player. So I don't know what you were doing to jinx that. I do agree though. It wipes the floor with the Peugeot e208. I had one of these as a courtesy car while mine was getting some sort of software update, and I was like "give me back my MG4 RIGHT NOW PLEASE!!"

[@jamesellis3535]

Just got back to the UK from a trip to Sri Lanka. Never saw one EV. Never saw a charging station. Don’t think they will catch on there anytime soon.

[@bumpkini30]

You didn’t look very hard - I’ve just checked ChargeMap and counted 29 charging stations in Sri Lanka. Why make stuff up??

[@jamesellis3535]

@@bumpkini30 unlike you I wasn’t actively looking for them. It was a general observation whilst on the road. When driving in the UK you can’t fail to notice them but over there you just don’t see them.

[@dodgerboe]

It’s pack of EverResdy of the market … you know they’re not but you Hope 😂