EV’S FOR SALE WITH HUGE DISCOUNTS - BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS THEM!!!

[@leaulife569]

Anyone who paid full price gonna be proper pissed off.

[@andyireland1856]

They won't care because they think their saving the planet, and can walk around with huge sanctimonious grins on their faces and look down on ICE owners 😁😎

[@rogerfroud300]

Much the same as if you bought any new luxury vehicle at an inflated price, or a Camcorder when they first came out.

[@trickshotish]

@@rogerfroud300 Yep I just got ripped off buying my wife gold for Christmas but an electric car makes me happy and gold does the same for her . What the hell you can’t take it with you 😂

[@mariemccann5895]

Most are on public sector lease deals, so it is the tax payer 🤣. Easy money for the trade.

[@johnsimpson1637]

OCE cars will start to depreciate even faster as we approach 2030. EV haters must also be ignorant of pollution and the environment. If you buy an EV and keep it 10+ years depreciation does not matter. And buying g a 12 month old Tesla for 18k is a barginwhich may not last.

[@gillb2268]

kia are going to do a sports version, the R Soul....

[@0skar9193]

And to follow that will be the 'lute' version which is the Soulless

[@ivortoad]

I'm waiting for Nissan's N-Trail

[@andyhobbs2812]

​@@ivortoadGassy 😂😂😂

[@timhicks2154]

😂😂😂

[@timhicks2154]

Is it good on ring-roads?

[@liverpoolscottish6430]

I run a vehicle rustproofing business in NW England. I am rammed with bookings. WHY? Just about every customer tells me that they have no intention of buying an EV, or swopping their existing car for years to come. People are battening down the hatches and hanging on to what they already own. I am convinced that within ten years time, people will be openly talking about how the EV 'solution' was the biggest scam run in years.

[@MStanleyRoss]

every cloud has a silver lining for those who can see it. Good luck, fill your wellies!

[@Youtube_deleted_my_favourites]

I've just gone out on a limb and bought a new diesel! Volvo, last they have made, for now.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

@@KZbin_deleted_my_favourites selfish; or don’t you know about pm 2.5’s that come out of your tailpipe!

[@The_Macaroon]

How much to do a 2017 Yaris?

[@MrFryfish]

Finallycar iwner begin to understand that they can ACTUALLYSAVE money maintaining they car that paying lump sums of money for new one.. My bank account is safe because I am not, DEFINITELY NOT, spending 2-3 even for £400 every month on maintaing my old car. Definitely not. It is THAT SIMPLE. How much money comes out of you pocket on the car you drive to work? Monthly payment in hundreds of pounds? 😂 You're definitely get robbed... you just don't know. Sorry..

[@bobstirling6885]

If people don't understand the scam and why they are stockpiling, they really need to open their eyes!!

[@AquaMarine1000]

Yes, the windows are open, but nobody is home.

[@KimSenior]

Or go for a brain scan!😂

[@DanTheCox]

there are massive communication campaigns on the channels (tv, radio, msm, etc) that average people consume mindlessly and they use the bandwagon fallacy abundantly.

[@mariemccann5895]

What scam?

[@likelikelikelikelikelike3971]

@@bobstirling6885 there isn’t a scam. It’s just a different way to power transport.

[@keegan773]

The panic has set in. They can’t meet the governments targets already. Every discount slashes the second hand value. It goes from bad to worse.

[@blogg9922]

It's going to get worse Some makers are holding back deliveries of ordered ICE cars until Q1 2025 in order to game their numbers for 2024

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

But not for those who weren't taken in by the BS about how EV's "are the future" Long live the mighty Peugeot 106d

[@michealridgway7607]

Great buy a 2nd hand EV then

[@keegan773]

@ what a stupid statement. What about all those people who bought an EV only to see its value drop by 5 figures overnight. You really are a simpleton.

[@rogerfroud300]

What's bad about that? In the end, the dead wood manufacturers go bust, and the ones that make compelling EVs at a good price will give us what we want.

[@christownsend7602]

My son owns a 2006 Jetta TDI with 300,000 miles on it here in the States. It still gets 45 mpg and drives great. Not worth much anymore, but it is 110% better than any milk float on the road. I drive a 2003 BMW Z4 I bought new and will drive it until the wheels fall off, then I will fix it and drive it some more. I have a 45 year old Ford E-150 I bought new, and it is a daily driver. My gas tank holds just as much gas as it did when I bought it. Can't do the same with an EV. No EV for me or any of that silly self driving garbage.

[@Rexbilly9819]

45mpg in a Jetta to drive 300000 miles has cost £42500 in fuel at current UK diesel prices of £1.40 litre. It will cost me £4200 charging my EV on my Octopus energy Intelligent Go tariff to drive 300000 miles saving me £38300 and more if you price up the oil changes and servicing costs.

[@jondonnelly3]

​@@Rexbilly9819Factor in cost of depreciation.

[@chris1newbury]

@@Rexbilly9819 your ev wont do 300 thousand miles and any money you think your've savied. has allready been lost in depreciation. your cars worthless, the gorvernment are about to tax the shit out of you and your insurance is going to double...... again. stop pretending your saving money and show some dignity towards people that have not made the same mistakes you have

[@sunnybnk]

@@Rexbilly9819 And I thought EVs were about saving the planet. Turns out that the EV drivers are a mercenary bunch of bandits only interested in their own pocket, stuff the planet.

[@BillyRiff-RAF]

​@@chris1newbury😂👌, nailed it 💯

[@daveb2wright]

I can't get my head around the affordability of these vehicles, or lack of affordability in reality. Where on earth are ordinary people expected to get that sort of money from? Bonkers!

[@gartgreenside3657]

I barely get how people afford (long term, I get how they can borrow to buy) £15k cars and I am fairly well off!

[@alexdunphy3716]

They can't afford them. They buy them on credit.

[@Tailspin80]

Not by earning it, that’s for sure. Inheritance, starting a business, good financial planning and a bit of luck with your investments. I’m retired and able to buy new for cash but I never could when I was younger, bringing up a family and working for big companies. Then I ran very old cars, sometimes from auctions and fixed them myself.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

apparently, a lot of people use PLP (?) financing for their vehicles, and EV's do NOT cost that much more per month compared to an ICE car. Ant extra cost is off set by running costs at 6p - 9p per mile compared to 15p - 18p per mile for dino juice.

[@xTheZapper]

It's no different to all the high end Audis, BMW's and Range Rovers you see on the roads in Britain. People can't afford to save for a mortgage deposit but are happy with a £500 a month car finance agreement. I saw a statistic saying over 90% of UK cars are on finance, which seems bonkers, but based on the average salary being around £33k and the number of nice cars you see I can actually believe it's not far off.

[@tomjones7593]

One of your best, Tone ! Sadly, my motto has been 'buy high, sell low'- but even I wouldn't touch one of these things with someone else's barge pole

[@geoffmansfield2668]

How do you make a profit doing that?

[@mikeuk1954]

I will drive an ICE car until my dying day. I will never be forced by any government to purchase something I don't want. Net zero is the biggest con of our time.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

Well said. 100% agree.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Looking at the viewers and posts on this site, it seems most are old and set in their ways. My Grandad said the 'horse and cart' would never be replaced.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@geoffmansfield2668 Conversely older people have a mass of knowledge and experience...

[@FolkinghamRob]

@@geoffmansfield2668 If your grandad was replacing the horse with a mule, which the government says you must have, which doesn’t have the same efficiency, costs more and would be knackered after 5 years and worthless then your analogy might work - idiot

[@FolkinghamRob]

@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne agreed

[@RalphDuff]

Long live Petrol and Diesel ❤.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Yes definitely need to keep Shell, BP, Exon and the Saudi Prince's in wealth.

[@xTheZapper]

I don't understand this mentality against electric. I've got a Civic Type-R so I'm not in the electric camp, but I just don't understand why people are so opposed to them for some reason?

[@camlegs2423]

On a life support to help with the cancer it causes

[@geoffmansfield2668]

@@xTheZapper Older people cannot cope with change. They prefer to cocoon themselves and ignore the factual data put in front of them. Heaven forbid they should actually take one for a drive, as they might be impressed (I was a petrol head, but could now never go back).

[@xTheZapper]

@@geoffmansfield2668 It's not just old people though, I mostly see middle aged people complaining. It's the vandalising of electric charging points and keying car doors that really blows my mind. Like electric car have come and taken all their homes and jobs.

[@BulletSpoung]

We rented a car, they tried to give us an EV and I told them no thank you. They insisted that I take it, but I refused and walked to another car rental place.

[@dcasteaux9181]

Sam when I was on holiday: they wanted to 'upgrade' me for free to an Audi eTron: I said absolutely no way.

[@Rexbilly9819]

I tried to hire an EV on holiday, but I ended up with a Fiat panda petrol. What a load of gutless crap that was and cost me. €14 to refuel after just one days rental. I really missed my EV. ICE cars are rubbish.

[@liberty0758]

@@Rexbilly9819 you've driven a tiny Italian shitbox and came to the conclusion that ICE cars are rubbish. All I needed to know about what type of an NPC you are.

[@rickyjulian496]

Let me guess, your Ice says powered by fairy dust on the rear?

[@spice3767]

@@Rexbilly9819…..lol…..

[@thomasreilly6362]

There are over 2 million 2024 built vehicles unsold worldwide..New vehicle sales in the UK have gone from 100 thousand to 60 thousand from 2017- 2023 40% decline. It seems people are putting of buying any vehicle regardless of what it is.

[@orwellboy1958]

Because you cant buy a new ICE car.

[@thomasreilly6362]

@orwellboy1958 Yes you can, stop talking nonsense. The majority of the 2 million 2024 built vehicles are ICE.

[@DwaynePipes]

​@@orwellboy1958🤔

[@mjcamp01]

It's the Osborne effect

[@bobstirling6885]

Expensive car tax bracket is based on list price, not discounted price.

[@stevelong5510]

Just about to post that but yes, a £40k plus car at rrp will incur the the ‘luxury’ car tax even if it’s sold at a discount below the £40k.

[@andyhobbs2812]

​@@stevelong5510 Ouch, bet many are unaware of that!!!😊😊😊

[@fredfred2363]

Yeah, and every registered keeper (owner) for the next few years, even if you didn't buy it brand new! Ouch.

[@martincox2864]

You would think someone purporting themself as a car expert in the trade would know this.

[@watto7728]

@@fredfred2363 until the vehicle is 6 years old.

[@mpersad]

Great video, really funny and informative...but then all your videos are! Thank you, FMA!

[@markholmes6831]

I wouldn’t pay the discount value, let alone the price once they have taken the discount off.

[@Twmpa]

Of course you realise that these huge discounts are going to absolutely murder the second hand prices of those examples of the cars already sold. Huge car finance crisis coming down the tracks methinks.

[@markholmes6831]

@ yes, that’s what happens when you flood the market with a product that people don’t want.

[@zarroth]

@@Twmpa there is no second hand market for EV. The only people who would have ever bought them in the first place already have; since most of them are yuppie types, they will want a new one every 5 years. Now they won't be able to unload their garbage and can keep it in their garage at home. I don't see a problem with that.

[@trickshotish]

I onlybuy Electric because I love pulling away at the lights and seeing the petrol heads face when I let him catch up 😂

[@trickshotish]

@@zarroth Every 5 years lol we don’t drive cars that old . I change mine a month before the first service is due .

[@craignedoff991]

A discounted nightmare is still a nightmare

[@jugganaut33]

Glitter on shit.

[@xperyskop2475]

Car producers got fat on 2021/22 shortages and raised prices to astronomical levels. Now they get hit with reality

[@Notagain640]

Why is it a nightmare at all?

[@Kaesemesser0815]

These prices are insane, even with the discount.

[@garybarry9365]

Keep driving shit 20 year old bangers then

[@iancarrington1967]

I will never buy a milk float, I will keep my 8 year old diesel indefinitely.

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

I wouldn't buy one either, I drink oat milk and my 6 year old EV is certainly faster, smoother, quieter and much cheaper to run than your diesel.

[@grahamgriffiths7405]

@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270but I bet it’s butt ugly 😂

[@richardmack1194]

Government will make it difficult, expensive or impossible to keep ICE cars on the roads and that will include expensive parts duty (tax) or in 5 years time most likely some ban on the basis of ICE cars are killing the planet. We will need to get serious with government in order to save our standard of living.

[@wizzyno1566]

​@@richardmack1194Ice cars arent killing the planet though.

[@keegan773]

@@richardmack1194 If the government have to do that to FORCE people to buy 💩 EV’s that the majority don’t want they won’t be in power long enough to achieve it.

[@bobbadham261]

Even with a 70% discount they still wldnt shift many more, no one wants a throw away car!!

[@Notagain640]

Why are you calling it a throwaway car? All cars are consumable. No car lasts forever. An EV will probably outlast an ICE car anyway.

[@Markcain268]

​@@Notagain640probably, that's all I hear about evs, probably this, probably that, very little real life evidence though lol

[@Notagain640]

@Markcain268 well evs haven't been around for as long as ICE, so there's no direct comparison. However with a little effort on your part, you'll find the information online. You just need to have a look.

[@Markcain268]

@@Notagain640 lots of information online, for and against evs, I haven't got the time or inclination to try and sort out the lies from the truths, it's not important enough to me.

[@jamesm90]

The government needs to scrap this stupid zero emissions mandate before all the manufacturers have gone.

[@mikehunt-w8u]

Thats the plan.Now keep up,thats a good chap.

[@orwellboy1958]

Starmer is a WEF stool pigeon, he's being a good boy, doing as he is told.

[@thetruthiswithin1721]

All by design

[@cayminlast]

I cannot replace my vehicle with an EV, none of them are fit for purpose.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

But you can re-charge it when you stop to stretch your legs (while you then spend £15 on an inedible sandwich). And it only costs 5p a decade using your home charger (just don't mention the £1000 to have said home-charger fitted), etc etc. How people fall for the EV con is totally beyond me.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

You are so right, horse and cart will never die.

[@terrancedactielle5460]

My tesla is perfect for me. Cost me £2.80 to do 300 miles. Each to their own though, if it doesn't fit your needs don't get one.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

@@terrancedactielle5460 Well said. My Mulsanne does less than 10 to the gallon 'around town' and barely 20mpg on a run, but I couldn't give a t0ss. Each to their own...

[@hiram1923]

@@terrancedactielle5460 "Each to their own". That's exactly the problem: If they wouldn't try to force us with mandates, ICE outlawing and massive taxpayer handouts for EV buyers, then nobody would care about this whole EV nonsense.

[@Syptah47]

Vauxhall Mokka EV £23k discount. Now £18k with low miles. Still bloody expensive though!

[@H8XME]

The £40,000 tax hike VED is attached to the list price not the discounted price unfortunately

[@jondonnelly3]

That will help EVs sell.

[@kimgreenway824]

Even worse !! Crap electric cars 😂😂😂

[@timlodge8267]

If dealers are giving that discount what are the cars going to lose when you want to sell it in 6 months.

[@brandonfromlondonuk3484]

a lot

[@russcattell955i]

@@brandonfromlondonuk3484 Its going to be a funny video from Tony.

[@kentishman5698]

you wont be able to sell it!

[@-DC-]

Dealers are already refusing them as a PX.

[@stephenbrown3050]

​💯 exactly!

[@williamprobert5124]

We just had one delivered from BCA Crawley talking to the driver and he said there’s 900 used Tesla’s park on a runway that Tesla don’t won’t to re sell them as used

[@craignedoff991]

250 tons of diesel mining to make 1 ev car. A complete scam.

[@Rexbilly9819]

250 tons of diesel mining at £1.40 litre equals 250000 litres of diesel at a price of £350000 to make one EV car. You are talking complete BS.

[@timhicks2154]

Not to mention all the plastic products that are by-products from the petrochemical industries.

[@jondonnelly3]

Transporting the car alone from China is 1 years worth of driving....

[@rickyjulian496]

We are on about burning oil being the issue here. Not making the other products out of oil​@@timhicks2154

[@jgreen9361]

@@Rexbilly9819You have just discovered how BS gets spread. Someone invents a bogus number, someone accepts it at face value and does a calculation based on the bogus number. In the real world we think, WTF.

[@cainweber1978]

I bought a 2nd hand 21 model 3. I get 310m miles on a charge which is free 8months of the year from a 13kWh solar array. I have 60kWh battery storage so charge them and my car at 8p/kW 00:30 to 05:30 durjng winter. Solar array plus car cost me around 42,000 (car was 20,400). Tesla has been making EVs a long time it is by far the most superior tech car i have ever driven. Pure delight. Sad to hear the competition is so bad.

[@normansmart7502]

The way starmer and reeves are bankrupting the country nobody will ever be able to afford an electric milk float 😂😂😂

[@limitedmark]

Thank you for your valued information and opinion.

[@francesdickie]

I thoroughly enjoy your commentary 😂 Please keep us all in stitches with your honesty on these EV milk floats 👏👏👏 😁

[@geoffmansfield2668]

The milk float joke is 15 years old. 95% of people who actually drive EV, say they would not go back. The market for ICE vehicles is now 20% smaller. Traditional OEM’s who have the same attitude as this website are in financial difficulties. Tesla, BYD, Polestar, Xpeng, Hyundai can sell every EV they can produce and are building more factories. The VW group (for example) want to close two factories!

[@derekmartin4523]

If you really really want one hold on for another six months and they will pay you to take one

[@KG98760]

Who in their right mind would ever buy an EV.

[@RonTodd-gb1eo]

Somebody with a lot of money , off road parking, and a conventional car on standby for any unexpected long trips.

[@BigGee-i7q]

Fools that dont understand the industry and have more money than sense. The depreciation must hurt their souls.

[@orwellboy1958]

People who, 'simply have to have a new car every year to impress their neighbours'. They are an ill conceived vanity project.

[@julesviolin]

Who in right mind would buy any new car ????? Buy a one year old and treat yerself to a luxury cruise. That's what we would do, however our car is a 2003 Rover 75 still going strong on 210k miles. We choose 4 luxury holidays per year as that's where our priorities in life are. 😎

[@stewartcrawford3372]

You are right BUT apparently nobody really buys any type of car outright now,. EV sales are mostly fleet buyers and the rest either lease or PCP then hand it back.

[@FrankH-x7y]

You are so right. The mach e is NOT a Mustang. Mustangs only have 2 doors and a ICE.

[@andyhobbs2812]

Iceberg 🧊😂😂😂

[@FrankH-x7y]

@andyhobbs2812 No just a ICE.

[@anthonyrawsthorne656]

Rumours, are that Ford had to make an EV 'Mustang', so they could keep the name ,so they just made a ,not a Mustang EV, just to keep the V8 proper Mustang going.

[@colins1830]

Every time I feel tempted to buy an EV, I watch this channel, particularly the video about how long it took to drive the citroen ec4 300 miles, and I'm cured immediately. It's saved me thousands in cash and I'm sure a few more years of stress free motoring in my ICE car.

[@robk1003]

Agreed with you on the Golf R. I had a Golf, admittedly not the R version, and covered 129,000 miles in it. Now my employer requires me to have a milkfloat. Only good news is my lowest company car tax ever, and lots of opportunity to have cake and coffee.

[@rickyjulian496]

Have you got the new car? What you getting?

[@bmwman1981]

Just opt out of the company car scheme and buy a proper car

[@rickyjulian496]

@@bmwman1981 one with 4 wheels and gets you from a to b? A cars a car. Unless you're trying to impress people how big your bank balance is.. unless it's an investment which cars rarely are you're just signing your life away to be a slave to the system. Unless of course you like your job.

[@bmwman1981]

@ I meant buy a ice car not a poxy milk float as long as you like stoping every 80 miles to charge up

[@geoffmansfield2668]

@@bmwman1981 have you not even looked at AutoTrader or WhatCar Mags to get real factual data? Most EV's are 200+ miles. For the hell of it, RSymmonds drove from Edinburgh airport to Heathrow without re-charging. OK no sensible person would drive for 10 hours, but it can be done. My twelve year old designed EV is a box shape and has poor battery chemistry (by current chinese standards). I easily get 135 miles even in the worst freezing conditions with the heating going flat out. Summer figures are way higher. Take a good look. Rule of thumb; range = Battery size x 3.5

[@darrenmunday4064]

I've got an MG5 2022 really enjoying it, tempted to get the newer one. Thanks for the tip!

[@99346447]

my 2016 Ionic is in for crash damage. Insurance gave me a 2024 camry mild hybrid. Ionic monthly fuel bill :- about 25 quid equivalent for 2300-3000 km monthly driving. 3 weeks with the toyota in petrol 1800km…..140 quid equivalent. ( drives like a bucket with a turning circle and manoevrability of an oil tanker) less equipment and less responsivness too. Cant wait for my EV back.

[@firkit2]

I wouldn't have 1 of these milk floats if you gave it to me.

[@Kalus_Saxon]

To be fair to milk floats I never saw one broke down or on fire all my childhood chasing them down to rob some milk and juice

[@markevans5892]

There’s even more petrol and hybrids sitting in car parks. The fact is new car sales have dropped by a third since 2017 but the manufacturers have just kept building. You’re out of luck thinking the 22%, it looks like there isn’t a single manufacturer who won’t exceed the target. Prices are being reduced because no one is buying new cars of any description. Reason, because it’s throwing good money after bad. Buying new cars is a waste of money, and those of us that understand this never buy cars.

[@Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR]

Love this Tony, great stuff

[@ceriwilliams6931]

Im a trade plate driver and would rather not work than drive these things. They never, ever give you the range they promise. An example, did a Jag iPace last yr, freezing cold weather. 160 mile range for a 60 mile mile job. Turned heating on, down to 150, heated seats, 140, heated steering wheel, 130. This is before I moved. Turned it all off after 20 miles and got to destination with 20 miles range left. Piles of shit, and if I turn up to pick one up and they havent even bothered to charge it, Bye.

[@rickyjulian496]

You're chatting cobblers. . heated seats and steering wheels don't drop the range. If you have a 70000 watt battery and want to use heated seats and the steering wheel they only draw 100 watts so would keep you warm for 29 days 24 hours per day. Your saying the Jag only has a range of 80 miles😂😂😂 A nissan leaf does 80 miles in winter with a third of that size battery.

[@gilleyb1900]

@@rickyjulian496i think you talking bollocks. But keep promoting the EV line

[@rickyjulian496]

@@gilleyb1900 you obviously failed in maths at school.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

@@gilleyb1900 Jaguar Land Rover make crap vehicles. The iPace was made in Austria because we have not got the skills in the UK to make them properly.

[@oldgit15]

You should try to find someone who can explain the laws of physics to you, and then explain that they apply equally to ICE cars as they do to EVs.

[@bruceshaw2402]

I always turn this sort of thing on its head , if they can knock these amounts of money off a car how much have they been ripping us off , you cannot take 40% off anything and survive for very long unless it was 40 % over the top in the first place .

[@barriewilliams4526]

If they *gave* me one, I'd sell it!

[@HappyBagger]

With the depreciation, you'd need to pay someone to take it!

[@russcattell955i]

I'd refuse it. Don't want it anywhere near my 300 year old home due to the fire risk alone.

[@gefleigh4264]

No one would buy it .!

[@geoffmansfield2668]

All the posts are old people, set in their ways and unable to change. Luckily younger folk care about Gobal Warming and pm 2.5 pollution and are embracing clean cheap motoring.

[@malgf4145]

@@geoffmansfield2668 You're wrong, I'm 75, got a C40 that goes like sh*t off a shovel ! Love it !!!

[@neilterrymorton4413]

Absolutely brilliant,you don't pull no punches !!! You've brightened my morning .All the very best to you pal and a happy Christmas 🎄 Cheers

[@johnsimpson1574]

Why did anyone give up horses? I have a purchased second hand mini electric. I only charge it from my solar system. What a great town car. Fast and fun. Try it out guys?

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

We'll be keeping our 1999 Suzuki Vitara and 2009 Ford Focus for as long as possible. I wouldn't have an EV for a gift.

[@The_Macaroon]

That year Focus is a good car, as long as it's ok for rust and regular oil changes. Loved mine.

[@tokoloshimampara9932]

I wouldn't give an EV to Putin

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

@tokoloshimampara9932 President Putin isn't stupid enough to want one.

[@tokoloshimampara9932]

@@escapetheratracenow9883 🤣🤣🤣

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

@@The_Macaroon Ours must be the most travelled Mk2 Focus in the world. We're driving to Athens today and so far, after 500 miles since leaving home we've seen 3 Teslas and one electric scooter. No one seems to have told the Greeks about Net Zero.

[@Aimless6]

How are they going to reach 28% next year, with all the pre-registered cars in stock now? Political pressure??? A free milkfloat with every luxury sedan?

[@joytotheworld9109]

Not enough luxury sedans selling. Need to be a free EV with every SUV. I'd say even buy one get one free won't get them to the bonkers targets in years to come.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Some companies will make the effort and be successful i.e. Tesla, BMW, BYD, MG, Peugeot, Renault. However lazy old fashioned companies who relied on the same customers being loyal (whatever crap they serve up) will die e.g. VW (diesel gate etc.), Nissan (heavily in debt), Toyota (sticking to hydrogen and fossil fuels). These three companies were big and very profitable in the largest market in the world (China), but no longer sell there as that country is now 50% 'New Energy' vehicles.

[@dcasteaux9181]

The Nissan Leaf to me is worth less than £9k. If it was that cheap I'd use it for my 18 mile round trip to work and absolutely nothing else.

[@dcarbs2979]

Are you sure it'd get you there?

[@shauncorless8965]

Every time I see one I get range anxiety and I've not even got one 😮

[@timhabich3113]

Bs

[@Joe0161]

You ok?

[@GoGreenAutos]

Your premise that "no one wants them" is just wrong. If you look at the actual real data, rather than one person's views, you'll see that UK EV sales continues to rise and up 58.4% in November from Nov 23. Year to date EV market share is 18%, which is a 19% annual increase. The reason for these huge discounts is the penalties the car manufacturers have to pay for not meeting their emissions targets. They have to pay £15K on every ICE they sell so they are discounting the EV prices as this reduces their penalties and lowers their fleet emissions.

[@MrMattberry1]

I wonder why they keep saying that only 1 percent of electric drivers ever go back to fossil fuel then?

[@adrianturner8003]

I think the £40k road tax rip off is based on list price, not the discounted price, Soz..

[@davidadams5116]

This is a comical video. Well done. I was laughing out loud.

[@stevenwithanS]

I remember a 1981 VW Jetta diesel that was getting 62 MPG. I often wonder if it still is, lol.

[@rickyjulian496]

Oil companies probably had the engine scrapped..

[@N13CRM]

The manufacturers will be fined £15000 for each vehicle that they are short of the 22% EV allocation across their sales for 2024. Therefore the discount of £13k is less than the fine, causing huge perversion in the car market.

[@johnsradios484]

Everyone seems to get the story half right! For everyone who does not want a EV there is someone out there that wants a EV. Maybe 50% of the people want a EV or-maybe less. But there is a market out there. The batteries are getting better, the cost of batteries continues to come down and the range is getting longer. Right now EV’s are still a bit higher than ICE cars. The fact that there is no , oil, oil filter , transmission, engine, belts, hoses, transmission fluid, radiator, coolest , water pump and many other parts means that you are basically dealing with a motor and batteries ! Period.

[@rcpmac]

“Sales of electric cars in the UK grew in October despite overall demand for vehicles shrinking as manufacturers raced to meet government targets. Carmakers sold 29,800 electric cars during the month, up by a quarter compared with the same month last year, according to data published on Tuesday by the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), a lobby group. That growth came despite overall October sales falling by 6% year on year. Sales of diesels were down by a fifth and petrol cars dropped by 14%.”

[@northstar1950]

Sold? Or just pre reg sitting in an airfield?

[@vincentmckenna1755]

Says who,data can be manipulated

[@iainmorrison9365]

Pre registering to get the sales figures up is not the same as selling😂

[@stephenwilletts2293]

First time watching,great video,great sense of humour I have now subscribed.😅

[@Evcarnage]

Welcome aboard!

[@Twmpa]

I have to wonder where the current crop of pre-registered cars are being stored because I drove past the Royal Portbury Docks on the M5 in July and it was absolutely rammed with cars back then. More so than I have ever seen it in the last 30 years.

[@russcattell955i]

Rockingham circuit and old airfields for example.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Over 100 VW Polo's ('24 plate) near HX3 0TP

[@robertbox5399]

I have more control over the engine in my Honda hybrid by adjusting the heater controls than the throttle. I do like it and it has a 2 litre engine with no plug!

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Another victim to the Japanese lie that hybrids are good; at least you didn't fall for the Toyato "self charging" con.

[@savinggrace70]

My peugeot 206 year 2000 still going strong!!!!!

[@AnthonyJones-vk6xq]

Just had a look on Google maps and as usual Tony, your not telling porkies, thousands of cars parked up all over the place !!! Hope the eye operation goes well......

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Why are there 100+ consecutively registered ‘24 plate VW polos (all in beige), stored near HX3 0TP?

[@zitzong]

Prefer to drive a small petrol car. Electric cars can be described in three words; future my arse!

[@timhicks2154]

I’ve got two old petrol Toyota Yaris’s. 21 years old & 17 years old. I have no need for an estate car or a huge Family Lorry. No EV’s will ever infest my driveway.

[@rickyjulian496]

Well done for keeping a car on the road for that long. Shame most people don't do that and lease a brand new massive SUV that does 20mpg around town every 3 years. Each one of those cars they leased will go on tondrive at least 100,000 miles. That's 22500 litres of petrol up in smoke. They're the problem.

[@timhicks2154]

@ - Thanks. My 1.8 Yaris SR has 103,000 miles on it. My 1.0 Yaris has 75,000 miles on it. In my Garage I have two Classic Historic Moto Guzzi motorcycles - 127,000 on one, 107,000 on the other. I keep them until they break. Then fix them and ride them again.

[@mattdog1982]

Brilliant cars. Mine was fantastic. Pity a tree fell on it

[@timhicks2154]

@ - oh crap. That’s bad. Hope you source a replacement

[@stephenwood9687]

@@timhicks2154 Garages may become a thing of the past - Porsche , Merc , Jag and GM EV owners have been advised not to put them in the garage because of fire hazard. All my Li hand tool batteries are kept in a steel box - funny I never thought it necessary to do that in 50 years of keeping spare lead acid batteries, or using 24/7 classic car chargers!

[@ilit5472]

Isn't the expensive car tax on the list price not the purchase price? I'm fairly sure it is.

[@oxfordgreenbus]

Interesting video you've convinced me, I'll stick with the moped.

[@geofffletcher5739]

"It was dirt cheap cos its shit" 😂😂😂

[@davidreynolds3082]

Thry can stick EV's where the sun don't shine until they bring out a stationwagon that'll do 1000 miles, fully-loaded without a charge.

[@azw409]

What petrol car can do 1000 miles? Even if it could, would you drive for 20 hours solid without stopping for at least half an hour? Range is a non-issue for any car capable of at least 200 miles which is practically every EV on the market these days even in winter.

[@jgreen9361]

I was in a car show room 2 days ago. Quotes from the salesman. “The discounts on the longer range model have been increased to reflect the drop in battery prices to produce the car”. At another point in the conversation “.. they know that rival models are being released in the second quarter of next year, they want the public to see this model on the streets, so the discounts at the moment are generous”.

[@neilmartin3220]

Lol. Who was it? Arthur Daley?

[@jgreen9361]

I said “it’s the number 2 top seller at the moment isn’t it”, he said “yes, and we want to keep that position”. I drove home, put another £70 of diesel in my car on the way? That’s over £2000 of fuel a year, it cost me another £1200 to keep it on the road this year. Some nights I could have charged up virtually for free. Advice from people on sites like this is looking more and more stupid as time goes on.

[@spiritualdeath101]

When they finally abandon the Zev target there will be a massive order book for new petrol & diesel cars.

[@ElCharvo]

They have Agenda targets to meet-no going back on this unfortunately.

[@MrFryfish]

my 2 litre diesel , 20 years old, bmw 3 series with M47 and over 300k on the clock with 2 stroke oil 250ml per 50 litres diesel will last me forever. Watch my lips: FOREVER!

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Surprised you don't use old chip shop oil!

[@settertwo]

Good idea as Diesel now has low lubricating properties 👍 , same engine as my MG ZT 2004 on 125,000 , oil +filter change every 6 months 😀

[@kevinwalton4538]

The level of understanding about EV’s is infant grade! Carry on chaos whilst my drives cost £5.30 for 330 miles in summer . Just look at all new car sales before commenting , they have ALL , petrol, diesel and hybrid , fallen off a cliff. But hey facts don’t matter if one believes the brown shirts. Remember £5.30 for 330 miles…happy days!🎉

[@williamfitzpatrick7248]

Great video Tony, again facts being told, but you will still get the sheeple who won’t listen, I will never buy a milkfloat as long as I’ve a hole up my arse 😂

[@GBNorton]

A super interesting and informative video. Completely agree about the Golf R, brilliant car. Thanks for posting.

[@michaelbenfield4740]

Evening Tony!😂

[@SCR-ce2fs]

You’re doing a fantastic job Geoff. We all owe you

[@timhicks2154]

They’ll be giving them away with breakfast cereals soon

[@0ldSkoolgenx]

The 2021 Nissan Leaf had a range of prices depending on the variant, including: E e+ N-Connecta: £30,117 E 10 (40kWh): £26,471 E e+ Tekna: £31,379 E Acenta: £24,825 Market is fantastic if your after a new or second hand ev.

[@deanwelsh5702]

I had a petrol mocka hire car to go pick up a truck from a depot down south. What a steaming pile of dog shite. I drive an 11 plate Audi a6 diesel. I thought about trading it in for a diesel Skoda superb . I test drove the superb got back in my a6 and my old a6 is more comfortable drives better and feels twice the car . Needless to say I’m keeping it . Possibly forever.

[@andyhobbs2812]

Thanks for that snippet of info Dean, my sister in law has just bought a second hand Mokka, he he he😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rob1984p]

I'd echo that. I had a mokka forced on me a few years ago when my 2001 E46 bmw 330i was off the road after a morrisons wagon reversed into it. The mokka was a 1.4 turbo and fucking gutless. The worst thing I ever drove.

[@tonyb4996]

I like this bloke a lot. Never seen his videos before. Never was going to buy an EV anyway but might look for a Golf R! 😄

[@tomjones7593]

And another thing...if these things are stored near Bristol (I've only been there a handful of times, but enough to know the population are barking)- isn't Bristol by the Channel of the same name ? Lovely salty spray from Storm Gibbon or whatever it was called seeping into all that parked monkey metal, and those electrical circuits....?

[@andyhobbs2812]

Great point buddy🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧😎👍🍀

[@geoffmansfield2668]

You are right, a lot of Petrol Nissans come in through there (the EV's come from the North East).

[@steven.ghodgson765]

Well done mate keep up the good work

[@lauriedocherty2078]

I've a diesel nissan note 14 years old i still get up to 60mpg driving sensibley brilliant wee car love it, never will i touch a milk float 😀

[@geoffmansfield2668]

How many tons of pm2.5 have you chucked out of your exhaust in that time?

[@mrwhite292]

@@geoffmansfield2668plant food?

[@geoffmansfield2668]

Four years of driving. 18000 miles. Total fuel bill £968. Two MOT’s = £80. Two x cabin air filter = £28. Servicing = £0 . Do the sums . . . Say, £1000 ➗ 18000 = six pence per mile. For you fans of dino juice, post your real data for comparison.

[@davidwhitton5519]

Good numbers, The deisel car I have owned for the last 9.5 years that i bought for 3.5k cost me £1030 last year to fuel, service, maintence tax, insure and mot. Probably less than 3 or 4 monthly payments your doing on your lease or pcp your doing, what's your point?

[@geoffmansfield2668]

@ the total running costs of my BEV is just SIX pence per mile . You forgot to post your mileage! Doing your sums for you shows . . . 4000 per annum = 25 p per mile , 8000 pa = 12.5 p per mile , 10000 miles = 10 p/mile . I don’t do PCP; buy new/nearly new and run it for 10+ years. My diesel mini depreciated 30% in the first year; thereafter normal depreciation curve. Running costs were always 12/13 p/mile PLUS garage bills of £200 to £425 each year. The factual data I wish to show illustrates that BEV driving is WAY cheaper than fossil fuel.

[@davidwhitton5519]

@geoffmansfield2668 You haven't put in your original purchase price of vehicle so we can factor in depreciation. Mines still worth £280]0, or your insurance. Then we can get the real cost per mile.

[@geoffmansfield2668]

@@davidwhitton5519 '19 plate paid £27k on 18/10/2020. Auto trader now advertising similar (high) spec with slightly lower mileage for £15k, so let's say £14k. I am OK with £13k depreciation in four years. Adjusting for inflation, insurance is very close to my old Mini Cooper D - thus irrelevant to this conversation. So factoring in depreciation of £13k means my total running costs are now £13968 ➗ 18000 = 77 pence per mile. Now let's look at my neighbours Ford Puma (also a '19 plate). In 2020 this would have been valued at £21k, and Autotrader values it now as £13k i.e. just a drop of £8k in four years. So its total running costs would be £8k + £2412 (Fords generous 45mpg and £6 per gallon) + £800 (just two years serving) + £760 (VED) = £10972 ➗ 18000 = 66 pence per mile. Expensive vehicles always have a high £depreciation; irrespective of fuel type. I always keep my cars for 10+ years so depreciation becomes less of a factor. My BEV will not cost £400+ for servicing each year nor will I be paying the 15 p/mile for gasoline. Without doing a spreadsheet, I would guess the Break Even Point (BEV cf fossil) comes at year six. I have bought my electricity at 23 pence per kWh. The data above would look very different if I had been on an Octopus EV tariff of 7 pence per kWh !

[@robcosierify]

I brought a new car recently and got talking about EVs the sales person told me that of all the cars on PCP they have had only 2 cars ever handed back guess what they were EVs

[@john-in-cornwall]

just another reason to nEVer buy a discounted milkfloat...the whole thing is a self destructing play and we are watching just how lunatics are when their let out of the asylum ....fingers crossed by end of 2025 it will all be over..love your views Tony

[@andrewhill9369]

‘nEVer’, love this 😂

[@robk1003]

My family are getting two new cars this year. My wife's just got my Mum's Honda Jazz. Perfect car. I'm getting a company Milkfloat. I chose it because it's got the best interior and best seats of all the milkfloats that were offered. Couldn't see any way of choosing.

[@johndawson5718]

With great respect sir, this theme of EV carnages followers who are forced into EVs as company cars is very much the only way new ones are being sold it seems. I don’t know anyone who ever had/has a company car , is it a South of England thing?

[@SHADOW.GGG-]

i see people driving evs and think what on earth were you thinking, then realised people voted liebour

[@paulmcdonald7041]

Thanks for your fantastic reviews and advice. You made me laugh. In the meantime, I’ll stick to my 2012 Focus 1.6 diesel with 90k on it and regularly serviced.

[@mikeg3293]

Can you get photos of the stored cars to show the Tree Huggers? They might be convinced? But there again……..

[@geoffmansfield2668]

100+ VW Polo's near HX3 0TP; thirty across and three rows deep; all a shitty beige colour.

[@daidavies6210]

There are currently 34.000 Evs stuck parked up In Avonmouth docks, Because dealers can’t sell current stock.. Southport has a Brown site with 22.000 EVs parked up some as long as 3 years unsold, Portsmouth, Caryard 4 acres full of EVs unsold, And it’s the same all over the country..

[@michael.randall5034]

Apparently there are 1.1million EV's in the UK registered as sold roughly 1 in 34. Where I live there is no way 1 in 34 cars are an EV more like 1 in 100. When my mum lives in Chalfont and Latimer in Buck which is more affluent you see more but still not as many as claimed. This guy is 100& correct in my opinion with the evidence I have-My own eyes. None of my friend want EV's and we all know about this un-obtainable targets

[@FolkinghamRob]

Love it - keep it coming, you are hilarious 😂

[@Evcarnage]

Thank you! Will do!

[@jonsnow6741]

it's not a discount it is true market value for a motor that will be very difficult to sell .

[@paulnewman9275]

My mate just took delivery of his new Toyota LandCruiser Linited edition version diesel ...he says he considers it an heirloom as it will outlast him and diesel is THE fuel that will be readily available for decades to come. He is the 5th friend to buy diesel recently, two have bought new petrol and not one an EV ( one has one as a company car , Polestar).

[@chrishunter974]

Ice cars have same discounts if you take a look. Take your blindfold off and stop with the Anti EV bullcrap

[@hondacrxxx]

👏🏽

[@st200ol]

Another new wall charger installed today in my street, I believe we are past the flat part of the bell curve on EV adoption now.

[@Martinthehun59]

I wonder if Ed Milliband would subscribe to your channel..lol.. 🤣

[@alanthomson1227]

I wonder if he’s refused his ministerial limo ?

[@dpfordnewcars]

Which brand and motor dealer group do you work for?

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Lots of things are cheap to buy. A tonne of horse manure is extremely cheap, but I don't really want any of it on my driveway.