The Entire History of Secret Missions - Destiny 2

[@VanpyroGaming0]

The problem with Bastion wasn't that it was known ahead of time through the database, it's that it was on the roadmap, alongside the corridors of time making people think they were separate things.

[@DragonfireVEVO]

Add to that the fact you would essentially only skip a reset to get another annoying grind quest just a bit erlier and there you have it.

[@silverspectre527]

I personally don't consider Harbinger, Presage, or Vox Obscura "secret" missions, just exotic missions (including whatever the Bad Juju one was called). They were never meant to be fully hidden and uncovered in the same way. I do hope actual secret missions come back, even if they are datamined. My rule of thumb, if they give you a quest it isn't a secret.

[@callyg7696]

Ye I agree. That hype in the community when a hidden mission is found is insane

[@jerryballstein]

Presage was a pretty big surprise

[@numbjuhnu]

I think Bad Juju mission was called The Other Side

[@MasterJunior93]

To be fair, for Presage, you did have to go out of your way taking an alternate route during the Arms Dealer strike. That door that was sealed off never opened until Presage was put in the game.

[@Forcer69]

Maybe the real secret was the angry Twitter threads we made along the way

[@anemuman]

What? Angry threads? From destiny players? Never...

[@jakekgfn]

Angry people on Twitter? Surely you jest

[@kellofkells6002]

God it’s a fucking war on there

[@davef4214]

@@kellofkells6002 reddit is just as bad as Twitter when it comes to destiny toxicity. It's so bad, I don't recommend anyone venture there. The memes are great but to try and have a nuanced discussion is like trying to rip off your own toenails

[@kellofkells6002]

@@davef4214 agreed

[@NelixxileN]

That is the best way ive heard someone describe the current state of destiny, "The magic of destiny is slipping away"

[@sohsuh7625]

Yes it's perfect. A big reason is before we never knew what was around the corner. We didn't know what Bungie's capabilities were. We were filled with hope on what they could achieve and what the game could potentially be. But now we know their capabilities. We know what we can and more importantly can't get. We know that they aren't going to do all the things we want. There used to be so many people talking about all the things they hoped Bungie would add into Destiny, and now that we know they aren't going to do 99% of them the magic is just gone.

[@davidmingle5910]

That's cause Bungie just wants $$$ nowdays

[@JPOG7TV]

@@davidmingle5910 breaking news: a company wants money lol

[@JPOG7TV]

@@sohsuh7625 outside of expansions, the game just doesn’t have any huge surprises. Dataming and leaks also don’t help.

[@DragonfireVEVO]

@@JPOG7TV outside of datamining, they literally push advertisement for something like the Hawkmoon Mission nowadays, even if kind of understandable, but Whisper was arguebly more importmant for both gameplay and story, yet just kind of happened, same for Outbreak.

[@rollingafatblunt2228]

Bro when Evan said there were 2 secret missions in Beyond Light I scratched my head like "are you sure about that?" 😂😂😂

[@rinzzler366]

ikr they didn't even feel like secret missions, especially when bungie themselves lets everyone know about them.

[@rollingafatblunt2228]

@@rinzzler366 Yeah in my opinion these were just exotic missions in the style of the Last Word mission for example.

[@TheRealJohnux]

It would be a cool coinicidence if after the little Telesto Trolling, we walk up to Mithrax at some point and he tells us he has a Problem with his Splicer gauntlet, randomly opening and closing a portal without him knowing where and when. Starting a Mission known as "a crack in the Code". The Reward will be Pocket Infinity.

[@TheDetractorMoose]

i miss secret missions, i remember back in D1 rushing my ass to go through the mission with or against my friends it was just a fun time. and i mean like real secret where it isn’t a loaded in mission and shows you what you have to do or where to go that just kills the whole secret part

[@abdansyakuro1105]

THIS, the exotic quests that came in seasons now feels lacking because it lacks secrecy, it feels and sounds so straightforward that it doesnt feel exotic as hell

[@willsmith5935]

So far this video has aged very well, as the """Telesto Community Event""" turned out to be nothing more than Bungie having fun and giving an emblem that - like other secrets - had been leaked and known about for a while.

[@evantidwell6892]

Evan why you gotta break my heart telling me secret missions aren't coming back on a Thursday like this.

[@evanf1997]

Evan to Evan, I’m sorry 😢

[@rbrb3967]

For clicks, that’s all.

[@DarthLevicor]

LOL TWO EVANS

[@Van_Ghalta]

"Everything feels like it's following a business model; the magic of the universe in Destiny is slipping away, instead for a more corporate game." I feel that. Instead of the "oh my gosh what the frick I got an exotic" moments, we have lost sector farming. Instead of saving Strange Coins for weeks to buy a single exotic from Xur, we buy his entire stock with pin money. Instead of the wonder that comes with exploring the universe, Bungie hurries new players to the endgame so that they can GRIND GRIND GRIND. I miss when Destiny had that magical ring to it, that way it made you feel like a small player in a big universe, the times when you felt lucky and grateful to get two garbage legendaries in an evening of gaming. When you'd lose your mind after getting ANY exotic. Now we have exotics in abundance, Common and Uncommon weapons all but deleted from the game, and what was once magical and mysterious is reduced to all the wonder of a corporate 9-5 job. Well, guardian, it's a new season! Up and at 'em! You got exactly eight or so new guns to grind god rolls for, a dungeon or raid to farm until your brain bleeds through your eyeballs, your power level to get up for GMS to run so that you can get guns you'll never use, and, best of all, a title that you'll dump next season! I remember when Destiny was about the journey, not the destination. The experiences we had, the stories we tell, the friends we made. The rich world we played in. But now it seems like Destiny is turning into a slightly more fun second job. Bungie, if you're listening: in the end, what we want most out of destiny is the sense of wonder, excitement, and immersion that it offers. We like god rolls and will grind for them, but that takes back seat to things like community puzzles, secret missions, campaigns, the universe, and that feeling of novelty. That was what Destiny 1 was all about. Will Destiny 2 follow the same path?

[@RarePotions]

As someone who has played off and on since the start of D1, Feels like you took my exact thoughts straight out of my brain. EXTREMELY well said. I hope Bungie looks back on what made Destiny 1 feel so magical and can capture even a fraction of that magic and put it back into D2. The game in its current state to so unbelievably monotonous and repetitive following the exact same formula for what now feels like years upon years. We DESPERATELY need a shake-up in seasonal structure and go back to surprising the playerbase with new unexpected things and events that can really pull the community of this game together. We need some of that mystery back again.

[@peter2kx]

The terror of being the first guy in your fireteam to run into TR3-VR for the very first time when the mission just dropped will never amount to any horror game ever.

[@TheGhostOfHelenKeller]

What really disappoints me is it’s ridiculously obvious that players want a secret mission or even a secret event/ARG and this entire telesto Dibbocle really shows it. It should say something that when the raid secrets discord server is still actively trying to solve Easter eggs/secrets from DESTINY 1. A GAME THAT IS ALMOST 10 YEARS OLD

[@RJLiams]

Except you're forgetting how community constantly complained about the difficulty of these missions. How they don't have time for secret missions because they work. And other nonsense. Honestly I put a lot of the blame on the community for complaining about every little thing.

[@rousrouslan4023]

@@RJLiams wdym secret missions are like 20 minutes. If i remember Whisper was even lower

[@RJLiams]

@@rousrouslan4023 No, you have 20 minutes to complete it. Don't finish it on time? Well you have to so the whole thing from the start. A lot of the community complained about the forced time limit.

[@MBAgra]

If Telesto suddenly goes: "Oh really? You there, hold my besto!" And a secret mission drops on sunday I will be so happy.

[@Blub_blubby]

The Otherside was technically a secret mission. I actually loved that one when getting Bad JuJu

[@ISyphonHp]

A new friend playing D2 will stay when you introduced them to the secret missions that made them curious and feel rewarded for it. They want to learn more and feel invested. Unfortunately, thats been lost. Secret missions, stellar exotic quests like the hand cannons, and the places to explore and put them like the 4 planets removed in beyond light are all things that helped hook people to D2 and feel involved and empowered to learn more about the world of D2. But they are fading away

[@nathansamuelson]

When I got in during Arrivals a guy told my friends and I about some thing called "The Whisper" and told us nothing else except to get in a fire team with him. Omg. He pulled that out then showed us Zero Hour. Amazing. Icing on top of the cake.

[@ISyphonHp]

@@nathansamuelson yo i started in arrivals too. My story is similar with whisper mission, the planets, and exotic quests hooking me in

[@deathbyspeed2]

The Black Spindel quest was by far one of the greatest experiences i ever had in destiny. THE DAY it was discovered i was in there smashing my face in to the wall trying to complete that mission within the time limit. It was EXTREMELY DIFFICULT but well worth the reward. This is why i figured Bungie has turned away from secret mission like spindel and whisper. Those mission are impossible for the casual player and as of recently thats all Bungie cares about. The most recent Telesto thing broke my heart. Everyone was so excited just to be let down. I personally feel Destiny has lost its magic.

[@bryonyamada2620]

Beating that time limit with my friends helping me. I was just screaming when I saw it pop on to my screen showing me that I GOT IT. YESSSSSS!!!!

[@rone7777]

I was actually lucky enuf to actually unknowingly stumble into the whisper mission after a long break. Didnt have a clue it existed saw a portal jumped in and off i went. Without a doubt it was a water shed moment for me...

[@HyMyNameIsMatt]

Also the level designer who spear headed whisper and zero hour no longer works at Bungie.

[@crime_dog27]

Why?

[@HyMyNameIsMatt]

@@crime_dog27 Idk they just work somewhere else now. There is an interview with them about those tow levels somewhere on youtube.

[@OpenWorldAddict0]

What I want more than just secret missions are secret community puzzle events. (like Corridors of Time puzzle and Niobe Labs and more. I started watching you after you covered the events of the entire week that the Corridors of Time puzzle event was playing out. During that week, while I was trying to d 'my' part to try to solve the puzzle even though I was 4 to 5 days late on it, I was introduced to the person in my network of discord communities I am on; who has become one of my best friends, and is the person I play Destiny 2 the most with. Even though I was late on it and felt that the work I was turning in was not that helpful because by the time I got in on it, the community was looking for specific pieces of the map that was left to find; I still felt great about doing it because I felt like I was a part of something much bigger than myself, I had a lot of fun, and in the end, I met a great friend. After that point, I have been following a lot more Destiny 2 content creators than I did before just to stay on top of the news and be ready to jump on to it the next time a secret community puzzle event occurred. something that never happened. Every year since i was excitedly awaiting the next secret puzzle event that the community would just stumble upon, we thought one was supposed to occur last year in the Season of the Splicer, and nothing happened. This year due to all the health situations going on in my life and trying to recover my social life from the damage the pandemic and social isolation caused to it, i wasn't even expecting one, however, the Telesto fiasco of the last few days that in the end was ultimately disappointing and felt hollow; it shows the community desperately wants to find a hidden secret in the game that will unlock a puzzle for the whole community rally behind. I think that is something that the whole Destiny 2 community is 'secretly' wishing for, a wish that for now seems just to be empty. I will continue playing Destiny 2 for the great lore that i have fallen in love with, and the great story that is being told, but i miss the events that bind us together as a community. I just want to take a moment to thank you for being the community's loudspeaker and showing what this great community is all about, and the great things this community has experienced. Thank you.

[@FPVGhost]

I loved running Zero Hour. And getting Whisper 5 minutes before the new year. After 4 hours of trying with wife and her best friend.

[@Sunfirea]

My opinion on this is that community events/puzzles aren't gonna return imo. But secret missions still has a chance to return. But I think Bungie shot themselves in the foot doing outbreak and whisper basically back to back yearly. Secret missions won't really be secret if they're yearly.

[@davef4214]

I was really hoping that the whole thing with Telesto would lead to a secret quest or something

[@Inditorias]

With the limited game design I've done, I think it actually would be possible to have a secret mission that is hidden. Bungie has classified raid weapons and other items so we can't access them. Which having some newly added classified information would probably be very suspicious so they would have to have someway to sneak it in (potentially a season early) and then add the actual assets in a season later - I don't know how their database works but I'm 99% certain that it would end up saying modified which again, sus. But this next option may be what we need - Bungie has been putting out patches practically every week, imagine they added in the exotic and secret during one of these hotfixes but did not put it in the patch notes. Especially if it were later in the season (like imagine next Tuesday's hotfix added one, NO ONE would be looking at that point). And adding classified information at that point may be sus, but when the community finds a secret, then we all know that its something. Honestly, thats the only way that I can imagine Bungie adding a secret anymore - late in the season sneak it in during a hotfix.

[@tenacity25]

With the recent telesto events, they absolutely can do that

[@dani952545]

The whisper of the worm secret mission still gives me chills listening to it. All the memories of trying so hard to beat it. It truly was a great mission.

[@etonmf79]

Evanf always has the capacity to make me feel nostalgic and miss what Destiny used to be

[@kevinleedenman]

Dont ask me to skip any of your content ever again. Masterful work as always

[@InfernoPhilM]

The quality of the secret missions is a linear graph, with Vox touching the x axis.

[@53k07]

Sadly the season pass model just doesn't work with secret missions where if they have it part of the season pass they gotta make it accessible and known, while haha they can't make a free secret mission impossible

[@fluffdafire157]

So this made me nostalgic for when I got the whisper basically myself and homie where trying to get all the guns before the planet's disappeared and there quests disappeared and we just took a few days and bashed them out until we got to the whisper quest we hit the wall I tried soloing it nd couldn't keep up my friend did the same we even tried the two man team and we just couldn't beat the last room until on a Saturday morning we got on and started trying to run the mission when I got a message from a player asking if we were doing the whisper quest upon answering he asked if he could help I let him join and we start only to load in on this man, this legend, sitting there whisper in his hand raid legendary in his primary and the blacksmith title under his name and all he says is let's get this done we storm through everything the jumps the snipers that one annoying ledge that I kept dying at and we make it to the boss and looks at us in our mismatched goofy fresh account armor and says you ready and we fight I fall first and get revived then my friend dies to running in like the psycho he is but press on until blam the legend goes down we panic he was the main damage dealer I rush in to get him but get stopped that's when I remember i have gun made of sun I blast 3 shots into the enemy and stun it as my buddy revives the legend and we all let loose all we have and with 13 seconds to spare we earned the whisper of the worm then the legend looks at us and says you wanna try hard mode than we dip cause I no joke was terrified to see hard mode

[@nathansamuelson]

What I don't like is how disposable EVERYTHING is atm. They're ready to throw everything away and the only reason we have any mementos of the past is by making a big enough fuss about it. I get cycling seasonal content but why throw these missions away if they're so loved and took so much time to make? They don't cycle raids, dungeons, or exotics every year.

[@seanm9823]

I feel like you could argue Xenophage quest was a secret mission hidden in the dungeon

[@BrozvilleRealm]

Same with divinity

[@nicholasgrogan856]

Whisper and Zero hour are still the best content the game has ever seen. We just need missions with very difficult jumping puzzles and combat challenge thrown on a strict timer with a kick ass exotic. Even if its not secret it can still be amazing. Keeping it secret would be preferred but if thats too much hassle then fuck it.

[@Vex_365]

What about DMT?

[@nicholasgrogan856]

@@Vex_365 i don't think Presage was that good personally

[@St0nk5]

the beginning of corridors of time really felt like something worthwhile and well thought out, but the end of the puzzle event ran like it was an uneeded test with a already known reward that wasnt worthwhile. The mystique of secret missons is "The Mystery" and being armed with only the knowledge that its a new area and it might have a super secret loot drop at the end, knowing ahead of time what that reward is ruins the enjoyment a bit and the last true "secret misson" being the corridor of time community event proves it

[@cammccauley]

Counter argument. This is their proof of concept that they can update a gun on the fly on a reset. Remember that weird hot fox that went out that was just a test a little while ago. That could be this and this could be proof that they can update something live without it being datamined.

[@Ketharuil]

See, we know Bungie can keep items hidden in the API now, to the point you can't even see your own copy in the app for a little while. Plus, they just added their new way to update secretly. No one data mined the Telesto acting weird, or the Seraph Bunkers returning. I think it's a good sign.

[@ado_fritos]

Could be related to the "testing a new type of patch/no secrets" patch, but Telesto may have been a test case for them being able to change things in game without people knowing what changed. Yes there was a patch I think the day it got the "star charts", but the next reset it got the extra explosions with no patch and no indication that it would change again. While a whole mission might be a little harder to bait and switch like that, I think this is a potential sign they could be investing more ways to make game changes on the server end rather than the client. This could benefit secret things, but it also could bolster their ability to do live events, etc. That or I'm delusionally hopeful haha

[@november2435]

I still remembered when I got my outbreak - it was the most exhilarating and exhausting achievement I ever had in the game. Without the things I learned from it like parkour, pathing, team coordination, and other general skills - I doubt that I would have been as decent as I am now. Whisper, Outbreak, and izi are all close to my heart because of the monumental and memorable difficulties I had when getting them

[@Jinn1986]

The sad part is that we have no secret missions anymore because people don't really want them to be a secret. Like you said in your video, people are datamining everything...

[@christiand5954]

There is no way that bungie doesn’t add some big secret. It’s inevitable

[@Xparkman30]

They add secrets every season they just call them nerfs to everything good and fun.

[@cbandit7715]

No I feel like evruhting has to be predictable and by the books now idk

[@joelledbetter2926]

I wish I shared your optimism I think they're happy with the status quo...they're not in to stuff like totally archaic missons no one knows about hidden away in some backwater planet .....if anything they will advertise a "hidden mission" and try to monetize it some how and then it will be easy so the new lights can conplete it with a harder difficulty stuffed to the brim with champions the artificial difficulty

[@Anchor-Supreme]

Doubt we’ll ever see any big secret ever again. With the current seasonal model, Bungie has to put all of their time into designing those instead of possible secrets.

[@zesshi9821]

Back then when getting exotics was an actual and cool journey… Now people just buy them from a dumb kiosk feeling not rewarded at all

[@lordpumpkinhead265]

With hindsight being 20-20, there was a "secret" mission added in Season of the Deep earlier this year. It was insanely difficult (far beyond the difficulty of normal secret missions) and gave an exotic that is so laughably bad that there's really not any builds that utilize it at all.

[@nes_tolgic9680]

Destiny hasn’t been the destiny we all fell in love with In a very long time….and I don’t see it returning :(

[@noahclark9882]

I think with the unannounced release of the vexcaliber exotic mission, I think they are taking a step in the right direction. But it’s still not a true secret mission. No timer, we could see the ornament in collections, and there was a tab titled exotic mission in the triumphs. However, they didn’t say anything about it and was discovered by players. Hopefully they keep doing this and maybe just maybe we’ll get those true secret missions back

[@Bennieboy918]

I rather have actual difficulty than a shitty timer lol

[@lucasbosier6808]

I don’t think it’s fully the community’s fault for no longer having secret missions, who here would have whisper or outbreak without reading that Reddit thread that said “I think I found something on titan”? I remember seeing that for every single secret exotic, plus with raid secrets and the destiny subreddit it has become almost impossible to hide anything from destiny at all, plus who’s to say there isn’t a secret on Nessus or Europa right now? Of course who’s gonna search every nook and cranny but isn’t that how they’re found?

[@frostbittenprophet4852]

Dataminers and streamers are the ones that caused this. They built up a last seasonal event then when it didn't happen and we got a small event and the streamers are upset cause it wasn't a thing for them to create more content. Secret missions were fine but they were not the selling points you try to make them, they were cool thing you could do to get a weapon and cata. Vox Obscura is basically just the same thing but instead of going to the farm, you go to a map marker.

[@Clique..]

Secret missions, strike specific weapons, master armor and weapons that are different from their lesser counterparts, dope shaders from raids, revamped destination weapons and armor that you can grind for (etc. Edz, nessus, moon) Pinnacle weapon quests(instead of ranking up gambit pvp and strikes to lv 16) AND NON RECYCLED CONTENT PLAYING ON OUR NOSTALGIA.

[@yoshigottagun]

I believe on the current model, secret missions have been replaced by dungeons / reprised raids. Think back to year 4. We had a "secret" mission during Hunt and Chosen. However when Splicer came out, we didn't get an exotic mission because VOG returned. In year 5, we only got Vox during Risen because WQ (and VOW by extension) is viewed as a separate content drop. Then, during Haunted we got Duality, and Plundered got KF. Unsurprisingly, we did not receive a secret mission or really any exotic mission during these seasons. Looking forward the only time I expect to see "secret" mission will be during major DLC releases. Hopefully whatever comes out along Lightfall will be better than Vox.

[@kellofkells6002]

Dungeons definitely replaced them in bungies eyes

[@ahawkone8850]

You're right, the API and OOB people kind of ruin it. I get it though, and I think it's on Bungie to figure out the solution, not the OOB players to stop OOBing. Harbinger didn't count for me because it was so tightly interwoven into the story of the season that it was impossible for it to be "secret". But Presage is what really made it come alive again for me. I knew the secret mission was on the roadmap, but I didn't know when. And that they made clever use of a place no one would think to look OOB (Arms Dealer!) to kick it off, and then hid the zone in space (somewhere no OOBer can get to, or if they can they would have to know it was there first) tells me they're still trying. I have to imagine that the OG Black Spindle, Whisper, and Zero Hour have to be some of the most fun things to develop. I loved Presage though. I played it many times. It hit the perfect middle point between intense Whisper/ZH, and lowkey Harbinger/Bad Juju. I had hope this week that Telesto was going to be something. I still have hope that the weird patch they put in and the Telesto joke are tests to see what they can hide and what they can get away with in terms of these secrets, because the game is better when they exist. Not because they exist forever, but because they get the community excited when they release.

[@WozLee]

If you don't think that at some point they're going to slightly tweak the Whisper and Zero Hour missions, and then give them back to us as "brand new" content, you haven't been paying attention.

[@xXMemelord]

I'd take them both back as they were, maybe with a little added enemies now that we've gotten stronger. They were both absolutely bangers, imo

[@Discipleofrhulk3458]

I met my first internet friends through whisper, I still talk to them. Man I miss those days back in year 2 and warmind

[@Yokubobo]

maybe the reason they are making in-game loadouts is a preparation to close the API and give us a DIM replacement in-game, we will know once the lightfalls. 🤧

[@darthnater6204]

I miss this version of destiny just secret events and missions all the raids were out and just everything was accessible I’m starting to hate the seasonal activity designs and fluff that’s in the game that replaced the raids and hidden missions it’s sad

[@the_filthy_macgyver]

The bad juju quest was fun, but that damn tribute hall...that was a grind.

[@noahthatcher3729]

Bungie really took secret missions success as an advertising point, instead of relying on the hype post launch to gain new players.

[@JDxxatteis]

Harbinger, Presage and Vox are NOT secret missions. They were not free like whisper and zero hour. The weapons were advertised before their releases and the quests were handed to us.

[@Tahu33446]

I like them. What I don't like was time gated master versions to get the catalyst. Just let it be a master version. To many screw ups with timers in in destiny. I never liked them in missions dating back to the secret mission for black spindle.

[@Familyman617]

Whenever bungie says something isn't returning. That something usually returns. Twilight Garrison wasn't suppose to return and although we haven't gotten the actual exotic back. Arc titans got a variation of it with arc 3.0. Secret missions will return, its part of Destiny's identity.

[@PopeOnDope]

i d be contend when Bungie brought back Zero Hour with a different reward. Just the memory of that mission is keeping me in the game rn

[@justMeJustBri]

I quit playing early this year but I still watch your D2 videos. Keep up the good work!

[@kajex7589]

I watched the whole thing, it was nice to have a refresher on the subject and your insights. But I appreciate the ease of skipping to the part where you get to the point 😆

[@richie6793]

Yes they will :copium:

[@michaelwardell819]

I mean, we got the vexcalibur with lightfall, that counts, right?

[@rampage0092]

Given that Bungie is looking to introduce loadouts in Lightfall, perhaps it’s their way of preparing to bring back secret missions. You bring in loadouts, apps like DIM and Ishtar lose a big part of their reason for being around, and then you have more freedom with how you manage the API, since players will still be able to change loadouts at will. Not really sure if that’s feasible and my little theory there has some holes for sure. Just spitballing something.

[@gregnowlin7688]

Awesome video!!!! I still remember when I heard about Black Spindle and even though I wasn’t high enough level and didn’t have the best of guns, I instantly went and attempted it so many times and then decided to get better stuff and a fireteam, then I got it. I actually got outbreak perfected before I got whisper of the worm. When I did outbreak I didn’t have recluse or jotuun so used some scout, the ikelos shotgun and 21% delirium and switched to bad omens for the last room. I got to where I could solo get to the last room but never had enough time to finish. Finally I asked for help on a Destiny Facebook page and got it. After not being quite able toil solo whisper and being just short I did the same thing, asked on Facebook and got it. I’ve loved all the secret/special missions but zero hour was definitely my favorite. Seems crazy but after I finally got it I’d go on LFGs and help people so I could do the mission again haha.

[@TheMax107]

"This year will be the biggest year in destiny." Remember this from the witch queen showcases.....this year has not been that good....

[@gatorwarrior7557]

It's been so ass, overrated, and all the stories feel disconnected except season 16

[@virusguilt]

I feel that the last thing you say you are speaking for many players because what you say is very true.

[@kijjin9893]

I think I’d prefer having to travel back and forth to grab items and making these types of memories again

[@GainingDespair]

I never thought of the missions after Outbreak Perfected as secret missions, they didn't feel like one, I was under the impression they where just normal exotic missions.

[@joelledbetter2926]

God bless you Evan your doing the Lord's work ....I've been saying this is the part of destiny that's died and has made it feel so empty for me.....

[@trollfacepanda5766]

Even tho the secret mission do take a lot of development time and might not be worth it in the short term, as we see by these type of video's they are definitely worth it in the long term. And the whole API thing is not that bad IMO like yeah sure can see a catalyst for a weapon we don't have but we have no idea how we get or or any idea what the mission will be, what the story behind it is and what it looks like. They also really shouldn't make a trailer for the "secret" weapons, just let us discover the quest on our own or though some story dialog and *boom* with a small amount of effort you just made the mission a little more secret.

[@alicetheaxolotl]

I miss Whisper and Zero Hour. I spent the last few weeks of Arrivals doing sub-15 ZH carries for the Emblem, just for the sake of doing more ZH.

[@getvooped]

I remember that spindle mission, I actually carried so many people to it that day on lfg. Literally 20 teams at least. So fun man. And felt incredible to be a part of.

[@davef4214]

I think one problem in the pantheon of problems that exist in destiny regarding secret missions is that there are groups of people that are always looking for something, testing something to see if anything triggers a quest. I'm not a developer and have no experience with it but I'd imagine it's got be be difficult and frustrating trying to figure out how to make an actual SECRET quest without saying a word. The player base now is so much bigger than it was when WotW and OP came out, meaning more and more people around every corner looking for something in hopes of discovering that new secret quest. Who knows tho, we will probably never see a true secret quest ever again

[@puluzu]

I wonder if it would be somehow possible to not have any hint of something new in the API before the date a secret mission is actually released alongside a patch. Even that would be miles better to what we have now.

[@turbotegs2102]

How can a dev put any love into something they know will pretty soon be vaulted forever?

[@44crimes]

a idea they could do to keep it secret: for example they could place a feather like they did before on the map. but not lead it to anything no quest nothing it just goes into your inventory. then when a good amount of people find it up date the game for the next quest. just go little by little.

[@joelledbetter2926]

Next season : advertise a "Hidden misson:" ..free for all players ...easy for new lights ....let's find a way to monetize this thing .and a few weeks later we can throw some chamions in it and call it master ....that's how it will happen if it even does at all and I seriously doubt that

[@anthonygomez9918]

Hawkmoon and DMT: Am I a joke to you??

[@plaindragon2023]

Imagen if there's a secret in the emblen that unlocks a mission? When completed the emblem becomes animated, we get a animated exotic ship and pocket infinity. 🤣 That would be awesome.

[@dodoontherocks]

Doing whisper of the worm solo in forsaken on my warlock was amazing!!!

[@79bigcat]

If Bungie knows people will peek at the API, why not make a bunch of "dummies" - prototypes, clones, or some such - to obscure the real quest reward. Lorewise, have it be one last taunt from Savathun and/or Riven to explain why it toys with the fourth wall. Turn the API into an ARG, they love their puzzles and the community loves feeling clever. Besides, it would give some use to gear that was left on the cutting floor.

[@icarusfluffybottom899]

I think people, this video included, place too much emphasis on the secrecy of not knowing the thing is coming. To be honest, it doesn't matter if KNOW a mission is coming... the important part is I don't know where it will be hidden, or how to get it going. The fun is in the hunt, trying to solve the mystery and figure out WHERE the mission is. Like the example of Harbinger, if they had just left some gold feathers scattered around the world instead of pulling us by the nose with a straight up QUEST, it would've been way more interesting. They can put that there's a mission coming in the API all they want, but if players still have to piece things together and figure out how to access the thing, I think that's still a success, because THAT'S the part that people really enjoy and find engaging.

[@snakeman7999]

Surprised you left out the original outbreak prime secret quest line. It has imo some of the craziest codes to break.

[@SM2I2TH]

I met my current clan mates by sherpaing WotW. Memories I hold dear. I'd love for that to come back.

[@totallyoriginaltbox]

I loved taking new players through that mission and getting them the exotic, I really wish it will return along with zero hour

[@dravencastaneda]

I got like freaking 100 crux of Crotas, but never in my whole time did I manage to get a black hammer in its prime and I still feel the pain every day💀💀💀

[@michaelyoung1070]

Man, the sound or Trevor coming still haunts me in my dreams......and I like it! Getting Outbreak with my buddies is easily one of my favorite moments in Destiny. Great mission for a fantastic weapon.

[@day_tiger7981]

I really don't want an annual secret mission. They should just throw one into the game every few years cause that keeps the thill about them at a pinnacle. An annual mission wpuld just be a little like figuering out the meta every season. Like sure it is still kinda fun but also always kinda the same every time.

[@miguelzamora2011]

That's some bunghole, I missed the thousand wings exotic mission and I need it in my fleet

[@williamfarren4734]

I thought they said in the light lightfall event that they wouldn't vault any more content going forward? Or did they mean starting then?

[@davedronski7749]

The only thing that we have had since outbreak that was even close to whisper or outbreak was presage! The whole ghost ship aesthetic was so cool!

[@longday8344]

People on Twitter are acting like the telesto bs is good enough, it’s so embarrassing

[@bryonyamada2620]

Getting the Wisper with my friends for the first time was like Beating a Raid and getting that LUCKY DROP.

[@JDxxatteis]

They can easily keep a secret mission reward secret just classify it in database like raid exotic. Easy and don’t put catalyst in game till after.

[@john2378]

We still have the last 15th wish. Maybe or maybe not they'll keep that a secret.

[@Nju2k]

every time i run vow there's at least one comment along the lines of: man a whisper mission inside on of these space doritos would be so awesome :(

[@timback480]

Love to see necrochasm come to d2. Always like the idea of it but unfortunately didn't start playing d1 till after it had come and gone . I was hoping to see zhalo come back for arc 3.0 but it didn't .

[@gamez_galore3235]

why does no one ever talk about the first black hammer secret quest where you had to speed run the mission and get back out again to the legendary version sniper? it was before the exotic one

[@scottishmau5]

Whisper mission was superb

[@opti_icecream]

Secretly wished the telesto event would have been mentioned in this video, but was probably made weeks prior

[@CalvinDBlair]

The treasure beacons from season of the plunder were kinda fun

[@k3vin3395]

Whisper of the worm was peak gaming, I miss that.

[@KingSystemUK]

What/how was xenophage found since it required entering a code? I wasn’t around on its launch to know - if we’re counting presage/harbringer then shouldn’t xeno kinda count too?