Eve Echoes- Heavy Faction Cruiser changes and why I’m excited!

[@cube_de8941]

I love your videos, you show it again and again. The most important thing about Eve Echos is having fun. keep it up

[@Gromire]

@@cube_de8941 absolutely, all games should be fun, when it becomes a chore that’s when you know you’re doing it wrong 😁

[@lllIlIIllIlll]

very good video nice and rlxt explanation and went into many details about the subject very infomative !!:)

[@Gromire]

@@lllIlIIllIlll thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@Dantoni36]

Rail pilot here. I like using 3 burst aerator rigs with HPC to keep the implant up faster and active for longer

[@Gromire]

@@Dantoni36 nice tip, I will likely do the same when I start flying Adrestia, and now I wonder if I should be doing that with my Fiend as well to charge the Fpcus Crystal faster 🤔

[@Dantoni36]

I mean, if you're going for burst-damage I think switching to pulse crystal might be a more viable option. Unlike the focus Crystal, HCP needs to be active to really get its damage up. And at least at the same level, and with nanocores primary stat being damage, 3 burst aerators have higher DPS than 2 with a collision accelerator

[@Gromire]

@@Dantoni36 usually fighting high EHP battleships so top DPS is more ideal than burst damage. If I was looking to fight cruisers probably pulse would be a better laser option. Keep in mind, I don’t have pulse crystal anyway, so the decision is not as hard as you may think 😉

[@Dantoni36]

@@Gromire fair enough. Admittedly, my only real experience with lasers was with pve sniping anoms the at-the-time king apoc striker. My how times have changed.

[@Akuro12]

I love the extra mid-slot on the Chameleon 2 Scram+a web+ a scanner is real nice

[@Gromire]

@@Akuro12 I think the chameleon might have benefited the most from this, as the sniper mode is not incredibly useful overall, very situational. Extra scram or disrupters is great to have with so much warp stability going around, especially for hunting mining ships like Orcas

[@cururu-xyz]

Definitely want to buy a Fiend now, lol. Great video!

[@Gromire]

@@cururu-xyz it’s such a fun ship to fly

[@MadBelle13]

I fly fiend in defense a lot. This plus 1 mod makes my fiend fit insane. And I mean insane. Now I can dual web and nos as well as bubble. Highly effective for tackling a roaming fast BS as well as disregarding them neuts for a good bit. Im pumped! Never really needed the Defensive mode for myself. But now with only a 25% reduction to speed. Ill have to play with this thing. Im pretty sad about the Chameleon though because now I lose that wicked drone speed boost from its snipe mode. The snipe module now doesnt state that the drones get a speed boost. Maybe they do. But that drone speed was clutch in sniping frigs that thought they were fast.

[@Gromire]

Yes! Sounds super fun I might have to gate camp some more now

[@SaviourOfTheDamned]

Stun grenade at level 30 also counters Voyage and that other scram/web immunity abilities so win win

[@Gromire]

Yes, very excited to try it out, not sure if people usually run snubs or rails on it though

[@SaviourOfTheDamned]

Tbh I run both. Snubs when I know I'll just go brawl, burst target and run. Makes you vulnerable to long range kiters. Rifled rails more flexible, can run pve and pvp, webs control range, easier to break contact too

[@karimgaribeh5826]

@Gromire the ability that reduces speed is only useful against other crusers who could be faster than your... orthus or phantasma or fiend.. the strategy is already faster than all the other crusers so it is insane against them

[@lemuelwonah7076]

You're right, the original damage reduction was 50%. But the original resistance increase was also 50%

[@lemuelwonah7076]

Also, it's source radius that determines if you are alerted if scanned. Only way to reduce that is rigs

[@Gromire]

@@lemuelwonah7076 ah I was wondering about that, but the change is still positive I believe, keeping 25% of that speed will be better for avoiding damage as a gate camp tank.

[@Gromire]

@@lemuelwonah7076 ok that’s good to know I will have to take another look at the Fiends source radius, I know I see that scanned warning pop up a lot so it must just be naturally small.

[@julienpawlak6239]

lovely news indeed, still waiting for the ashimmu heavy's version though...

[@Gromire]

That sounds terrifying 😆, the developers would need to be very careful with something like that, I could easily see it being completely busted on release

[@julienpawlak6239]

@@Gromire I wish we had a broken bloodraider ship, problem being holding your target till now

[@karimgaribeh5826]

The Ashimu is already broken or at least balanced.

[@CaptBozoe]

Great vid bud. I love my adrestia

[@Gromire]

@@CaptBozoe thanks, do you plan on using the repair mod in its 4th slot now after the changes?

[@almajensen405]

Have you considered using pulse crystals instead of focus crystal? Having your dps start high plus some built in nos drain could be nasty. I feel like pulse is good but often overlooked. I'm playing around with multi frequency and it's interesting if you select em boost losing some thermal but reducing you oponents em resist or select thermal and you can get more thermal dps than you do em. Plus your damage stays constant rather than fluctuating. Down side isqx damage is lower.

[@Gromire]

@@almajensen405 yes I would love to test the pulse crystal implant out and see the difference I just don’t have it yet. I think it would be good for upfront burst but since I’m fighting things with lots of EHP I need top damage over time

[@almajensen405]

Did you move back to med ab from the large. I was trying to do a fit with large nos and large ab. Doesn't look like it's realistic large nos and large shield boost I can do though

[@Gromire]

@@almajensen405 yes I am mostly sticking to medium AB now, and when I use the large AB I can’t fit a large Nos, but now with the 4th mid slot might be able to fit a medium Nos

[@erics.865]

Signature radius is not the same as source radius. Defense Tactical Module does nothing for you if you are trying to hide from a red scanner.

[@Gromire]

@@erics.865 doh, my mistake

[@SnakeyOneEyed]

Do the chameleon 🙏 plzzzzzzzz

[@Gromire]

@@SnakeyOneEyed I plan to revisit it now with the extra mid slot, just need to find the right build, I have very bad luck with that ship 😅

[@SnakeyOneEyed]

@@Gromireyay!! I hope for good luck now

[@amarrhardin]

I second this.

[@karimgaribeh5826]

Review the new implants and give your opinion.

[@Gromire]

@@karimgaribeh5826 will do, wish I could actually test them out with a ship but I’ll deep dive into the stats and see what we’re working with

[@Ernation642]

I've tried twice to get into eve echoes but it gets to complicated for me. Should I give it another attempt? Would be nice to see you make an in depth tutorial for beginners

[@timotheegoulet1511]

Do you know of a yt channel created by Captain Benzie?

[@Gromire]

@@Ernation642 I’m biased because I’ve been playing the game for over 3 years, so of course I’m going to recommend you give it another try haha. If it’s not fun then by all means put it down, but if you feel it’s just too complicated I think that’s something you can push through with practice and asking tons of questions. It really is a game where you learn a little bit everyday you log in

[@Gromire]

@timotheegoulet1511 yes Cpt Benzie is a good source for beginner guides, I learned a lot from him when starting out as well. Just don’t watch the ranting videos it will discourage a beginner from pushing through the difficult learning curve 😅

[@timotheegoulet1511]

@@Gromire ok then good luck my friend.

[@amarrhardin]

@@Gromire yes - he started out well, probably too starry eyed and positive at the start, but by the end was increasingly bitter when it was clear he had no influence on the devs and that his particular playstyle would not be enforced on the rest of the player base. Still his early videos are a good starting point.