Getting Started Hauling! Deep Space Trucking With The Imicus HM! || EVE ECHOES OBT December 2019

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Captain Benzie

Captain Benzie

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@imtiazmohamed6778
@imtiazmohamed6778 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What happens if your ship is ganked and you loose the containers? I assume that you will loose the collateral you pony up when you accepted the task. Or do you have to replace the cargo? Thank you.
@kingstonroland7371
@kingstonroland7371 3 жыл бұрын
i guess Im asking the wrong place but does anybody know a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I was stupid lost my password. I would love any tricks you can give me
@remyalvin6603
@remyalvin6603 3 жыл бұрын
@Kingston Roland instablaster ;)
@kingstonroland7371
@kingstonroland7371 3 жыл бұрын
@Remy Alvin I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im trying it out atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@kingstonroland7371
@kingstonroland7371 3 жыл бұрын
@Remy Alvin It worked and I now got access to my account again. I'm so happy! Thanks so much you really help me out!
@remyalvin6603
@remyalvin6603 3 жыл бұрын
@Kingston Roland Happy to help :D
@user-gb6jl5jm3f
@user-gb6jl5jm3f 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I got into the beta about 3 days ago. I have NOT put it down. I never played Eve online so everything was brand new to me, and your videos have been a godsend. Thank you so much!
@MrGary10k
@MrGary10k 5 жыл бұрын
Hang in there Zach. A lot to learn. But it is different from online, but is very fun and worth some time! Fly safe o/
@philipmcswain4921
@philipmcswain4921 5 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie Do you recommend a home station?
@fatramon92
@fatramon92 5 жыл бұрын
This.
@philipmcswain4921
@philipmcswain4921 5 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie thanks for the advice
@georgepapuc8050
@georgepapuc8050 5 жыл бұрын
Tap on container, tap on destination name and it opens a map and gives the autopilot option. No need to go to the starmap and manually search
@VictorHernandez-et5xk
@VictorHernandez-et5xk 5 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie I was just about to write the same. Thanks for the videos!
@thfreakinacage
@thfreakinacage 4 жыл бұрын
I love the implication that studying logistics management somehow makes the inside of your ship physically bigger :P haha
@thfreakinacage
@thfreakinacage 4 жыл бұрын
I can only assume it means your pilot gets better at stacking things :P
@thfreakinacage
@thfreakinacage 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie They should just watch my dad stacking the fridge. That man can achieve things I would never think possible if I hadn't seen it myself! Haha!
@AltoStratusX1
@AltoStratusX1 4 жыл бұрын
So basically traning by playing tetris
@xenoclix
@xenoclix 5 жыл бұрын
My week is complete. You always upload when i drive home, makes it so much more rewarding :).
@xenoclix
@xenoclix 5 жыл бұрын
Deserve it. Your overall structure of your videos and clarity of your voice and how you present your discussions is well and easy to listen to. Still looking forward to your corp ;p
@Marco-xx9zi
@Marco-xx9zi Жыл бұрын
I like the way the ship looks!
@captainbenzie
@captainbenzie Жыл бұрын
Some do 😂 it's a matter of opinion I guess. Everyone has different tastes!
@Maydole
@Maydole 4 жыл бұрын
The skill has been renamed from "Logistics Management" to "Freight" THUMBS UP TO HELP YOUR FELLOW PILOTS!
@NikBlack20
@NikBlack20 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for All your work. It is really appreciated. I built My own venture 3 and sold another one Ive built for 7 mil isk. All thanks to you 🙂
@Anarchist83
@Anarchist83 5 жыл бұрын
This is perfect for me when I'm at work I'm a cook so I can check my phone every so often so now I'm making isk at work great tip and set up! 3 mil isk today when I usually make nothing
@BraunHillz9
@BraunHillz9 5 жыл бұрын
I do the same exact thing on my night shift, rack up 10mil isk in no time.
@andrewr.ludlow2722
@andrewr.ludlow2722 4 жыл бұрын
By afk hauling?
@johnlindberg1794
@johnlindberg1794 3 жыл бұрын
Love your guides but most I have seen are almost a year old. Any chance you might do update videos on some of the popular ships given the changes to EO as well as the encounter/anomoly NPCs changes/updates. Thanks and Fly Safe!
@alfbeef5880
@alfbeef5880 5 жыл бұрын
We should set a date and time to meet up at a Market Hub with Logistics and DPS in go out to losec in a fleet so you can show how Fleet Ops work.
@nicholasaaronrose
@nicholasaaronrose 4 жыл бұрын
Warp stabilizer is important if your in low sec
@Clonez-sr7to
@Clonez-sr7to 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video explaining how "fleet play" works where you team up with others to accomplish things, like what would be the advantage/disadvantage, how many people can you feet up with at a time etc. love the videos!
@OddSpace105
@OddSpace105 5 жыл бұрын
Good Vid. I do have to say the current logi can make some pretty good amounts of ISK. I have made about 15m in 3 days on a character that is 5 days old. As skills increase, I may top out and agree with you, but right now it seems to be doing pretty good. What I would like to see and could really help ISK/hr on hauling would be a filter for the Containers Destination. Making it easy to plan a route for drop-offs. Oh and I like the way Imicus looks, I have one of each so :P
@rabidspiders01
@rabidspiders01 4 жыл бұрын
How do you find deliveries. I can only view the ones at the station im dock at
@kimgick7293
@kimgick7293 4 жыл бұрын
must be the quarantine, they are 511,119 as of the writing of this comment. great videos!
@takme09
@takme09 4 жыл бұрын
Well the video was posted 7 months ago.
@Clonez-sr7to
@Clonez-sr7to 5 жыл бұрын
I had bought an imicus thinking I could use it for mining to save for a venture, then i quickly realized I had been mistaken but this video got me on my feet with making money in the game and I actually enjoy hauling it works for me since I have dogs and kids and my free time is inconsistent I can just take on a Delivery and set the auto pilot and walk away
@Clonez-sr7to
@Clonez-sr7to 5 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie looking forward to it!
@Knuddelbock
@Knuddelbock 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need the Starmap to set the destination. If you tap the container it shows the delivery destination, tap on that to set your autopilot to it! :)
@thuan-jinkee9945
@thuan-jinkee9945 5 жыл бұрын
One thing to note - the Imicus High Mobility cargo hold is specialized - it can only hold cargo containers.
@BraunHillz9
@BraunHillz9 5 жыл бұрын
Another great Video cap, logistics is a good way to make isk if you're to busy to be ratting. Heads up tho, i don't recommend the Nereus high mobility in low sec, has a good delivery hold cap but takes to long to align to warp. Lost one and lots of containers while undocking.
@benvardy8642
@benvardy8642 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Just started first hauling experience now. Also, you weren't able to open the container, this maybe because it was in your delivery hold rather than the item hanger. Anyhow thanks once again, awesome.
@dt6827
@dt6827 5 жыл бұрын
Easy mode for setting destination is from the inventory screen click on the location as indicated and it will setup the auto pilot. No need to search for the destination.
@terracleon2474
@terracleon2474 4 жыл бұрын
Can one get a secure storage containers on the mobile version
@christianmelucci4985
@christianmelucci4985 4 жыл бұрын
What's the name of specific skills to train for a larger shipping container volume?
@NoverFire
@NoverFire 4 жыл бұрын
Any chance of an update on this subject i am finding it every hard to find content on Delivering Crates atm i am running a Imicus HM with a Delivery hold of 10,200m3
@pedrosimoes1556
@pedrosimoes1556 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think the problem with logistics right now is the amount of isk you get, but the amount of orders there are on the market. You only earned 50k for a 100m3 small container, but imagine if the station had 100 small containers for 50k each. You could haul them all in your imicus at once, earning you 5mil in a single trip. They need to change the system to make people actually need to set up haul orders, so that there are more of them avaliable, and not just a bunch of "0 isk" on the logi menu. Edit: Btw you should make a video explaining how to set up a haul order.
@ThatDudeCalled
@ThatDudeCalled 5 жыл бұрын
The station he goes to, out in super low sec area, is really good for hauling. It's a pretty popular station, though far away from high sec, so a lot of people buy stuff to be hauled from this station
@angruspideru
@angruspideru 4 жыл бұрын
I think deliveries will be profitable from L containers up. When you have nereus or bigger ship and can take few large containers, than even if price for unit is low u will get proper amount of isk. Or as You said - hundreds of small containers, which is slowly possible if u have quick fingers and big wallet. Max i was patient enough was 52 S and L packages in about 30+ minutes and than 1h delivering them and profit was about 5 mil isk (something about that) and I though - f it, mining may be boring, but is way more profitable. Now i do deliveries if i really need to be afk and find quickly enough packages.
@calynas550
@calynas550 5 жыл бұрын
To set destination I've found it's easier tapping where the item says is destination a pop up for set destination will appear. Not complaining your way works just as well.
@calynas550
@calynas550 5 жыл бұрын
After giving you're video some more thought a few other notes purely my opinion . 1 I would say the first 15 mill isk you make hold for reserves so can grab what loads you want. 2 I tend to plan a trip to be around 50 jumps round d trip to make isk I pick up all the boxs in the station available.
@GaseousWorm
@GaseousWorm 4 жыл бұрын
Logistics got renamed to Freight and at level 3 it doesnt give any cargo bonus :( or am i missing something?
@runelynx
@runelynx 4 жыл бұрын
The Imicus HM is now 500k+ :( And there's no Archaeology skill.... and the cargo hold bonus is now 5% down from 15%, tied to freight. If i just want to transport my ore for sale in a better system, can I use the Imicus? The DELIVERY hold says 8500m but the CARGO hold says only 100m. They make this really confusing, I just want to move my ore to the market :/
@LeonidasBG
@LeonidasBG 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Benzie how can increase delivery cargo with rigs I didn't found any rigs for that...
@luisgonzalez-hc4xu
@luisgonzalez-hc4xu 5 жыл бұрын
What are the best locations to haul from?
@joenoynaert711
@joenoynaert711 5 жыл бұрын
So my question is how to identify stations? Just go to low sec and start checking? Is there a way to see which stations from the map have markets available. I noticed some stations you can't sell anything from (sorry really newb)
@JuystaFan
@JuystaFan 4 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between a cargo hold and a delivery hold?
@MrTysonHuges
@MrTysonHuges 4 жыл бұрын
you can click the destination and it will give you the directions. instead of click on the map and finding it.
@AlextheBlaster
@AlextheBlaster 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to open the container you have to move it to the item hangar
@SkogenInTheHous
@SkogenInTheHous 5 жыл бұрын
If u open the container, how do u close it after?
@AlextheBlaster
@AlextheBlaster 5 жыл бұрын
Ragnar Vik no, you get the item inside. That’s why you pay collateral Incase you open it you don’t get any payment
@SkogenInTheHous
@SkogenInTheHous 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlextheBlaster thx for the info :) merry Christmas to all :)
@AlextheBlaster
@AlextheBlaster 5 жыл бұрын
Ragnar Vik merry Christmas!
@davidlegault193
@davidlegault193 5 жыл бұрын
When you look at the cargo you can tap on the location to set auto-pilot to the deliveries destination.
@gammingdaddy2030
@gammingdaddy2030 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video could you clarify for me that logistic management has now been scraped for modulas that increase cargo capacity ?
@sultancezar
@sultancezar 4 жыл бұрын
So a question, sometimes when I try to accept a load, it will ask me to adjust the collateral, how do I know how to setup the collateral?
@Grishnak22
@Grishnak22 5 жыл бұрын
Containers half to be in the item hanger to open them. And tap on the address for the container delivery it will auto set the route
@spencerburchettmusic8145
@spencerburchettmusic8145 4 жыл бұрын
Can you turn hauling into smuggling and can you do that solo?
@harivardhan2500
@harivardhan2500 4 жыл бұрын
can u steal the contents if u open them..and wjat are the repurcussions of doing so?
@royjaskowski905
@royjaskowski905 4 жыл бұрын
Can you haul your own containers privately or must they always go up on the market? Just wondering if I can truck my own ore cheaply or gotta buy generic cargo haulers at magnitudes the price.
@mrgreen497
@mrgreen497 5 жыл бұрын
Any plans to make a video on drones? Is it possible to just use drones for every situation such as combat, mining ect? I'd only want to invest in them if I could "main" drones or are they not worth it?
@CrzYtKRz
@CrzYtKRz 5 жыл бұрын
I had to admit that EVE Echoes really look alike much like EVE online! BTW for a mobile game this is insane Why not I mean the graphics,textures etc
@thepebblesexplore83
@thepebblesexplore83 5 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from your thrasher 2 videos. Any plans for something longer range. Fitting, strategy, etc. stabber or caracal or something. Pros and cons. I’ve seen really high DPS destroyers and anything longer range looks like lower DPS.
@Releases-Random976
@Releases-Random976 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Captain, great vid!! one problem for me though. Under Social science/Trade i dont have a Logistcs management option??
@Releases-Random976
@Releases-Random976 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie YOUR AWESOME
@MrGary10k
@MrGary10k 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid, and yes that is an ugly ship lol. I think I'll get a Mammoth. I just got a Vexor for running sites. Bought it in Maspah actually. Very interesting. The high slots are basically drone launch tubes. Works well. Armor tank is stout and I have a drone dmg amp on her. Keep these up. Big fan. ~Shargraylar Vuun.
@kleevin
@kleevin 5 жыл бұрын
How can you fly through all the null sec system without getting attacked?
@andrewr.ludlow2722
@andrewr.ludlow2722 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie how come there's so many that say it's a great afk activity? I'd be worried about being ganked too.
@Dino999999
@Dino999999 5 жыл бұрын
when venture 3 fitting video is coming?
@johnlemoine6399
@johnlemoine6399 4 жыл бұрын
You need advanced freight 5 to open a crate
@mauriziobrusini7554
@mauriziobrusini7554 5 жыл бұрын
great video Captain like always...just two base question...if u can help me, first the Search Function dont work ..i digit e nothing happen.. second how do u set kilometer when click orbit? than and ciao from Trieste
@MrCynan4812
@MrCynan4812 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda off topic question, any idea when the rest is? Also do we get to carry over skill points?
@velocity7643
@velocity7643 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question should I play eve online or eve echoes ? I have tried eve online could not get in to it tbh to much to learn maybe I can get my eve fix with this I also will be using a android emulator to play this on my pc
@screecher6577
@screecher6577 4 жыл бұрын
Can you yous cargo ships for mining
@screecher6577
@screecher6577 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie I know but there just this one cargo ship that is big and round I was looking at and I wanted to have that as my mineing ship XD
@zatherous1819
@zatherous1819 5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make a contract and fill it yourself in order to use cargo space instead of the reg space. I am trying to figure out the best way of moving the 12mill titanium for my next ship
@zatherous1819
@zatherous1819 5 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand how to create a container. I was told this is when you buy an item in market and set a destination but that doesn't explain why some have payments and others don't. It also costs about twice as much to set a destination, do you get that money back if you go get it.
@justmike9756
@justmike9756 5 жыл бұрын
Will be there any videos about ratting?
@MrGary10k
@MrGary10k 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I hope he does more as well. It is a major wheelhouse for me in Echoes as well. I use a basic Thrashed and Vexor currently. I want to fit up a Rupture next. Fly safe o/
@justmike9756
@justmike9756 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrGary10k i use vexor as well, cant wait for Vexor Navy. Fly safe o7
@MrGary10k
@MrGary10k 5 жыл бұрын
@@justmike9756 you too Mike o7 fly safe.
@1MeanOrange
@1MeanOrange 5 жыл бұрын
Are they erasing data after beta?
@WatchTower10
@WatchTower10 5 жыл бұрын
Small containers = 100 volume Medium containers = 1000 Large containers = 10,000 If a station has a request for 5 small containers, instead of grabbing one by one you can change the volume by 100 for each container (or 1000 and 10,000 depending on the container) and grab all 5.
@alexanderwilliams4645
@alexanderwilliams4645 4 жыл бұрын
Are you from Zimbabwe?
@VictorHernandez-et5xk
@VictorHernandez-et5xk 5 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on selling on the market?
@CBlyat
@CBlyat 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one. Do you know if we're getting a PvP scanner? I feel naked w/o my scanner.
@Mjorninn
@Mjorninn 5 жыл бұрын
Does this game work on iPads?
@pfclumi
@pfclumi 4 жыл бұрын
I like this video you got me laughing.
@nusantara82
@nusantara82 5 жыл бұрын
what is the minimum hardware and software requirement to play this?
@justmike9756
@justmike9756 5 жыл бұрын
You need at least last year mid tier smartphone, but if you want a best budget, go for pocophone f1
@robertsero7602
@robertsero7602 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I do this I always get the "increase collateral" notification
@thoughtloop1737
@thoughtloop1737 5 жыл бұрын
What phone do you play on?
@msdsmti7678
@msdsmti7678 5 жыл бұрын
At 10:35 just tap on the destination address and it asks ur permission to set the auto pilot for u.
@marcinstangel9277
@marcinstangel9277 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried to get a delivery going, but all I'm finding are: containers showing a volume of let's say 100,000 and a collateral going into hundreds of millions.... :( Is that some sort of delivery scam like the 'I quit eve ...' contract scam ?
@ventarfield7115
@ventarfield7115 4 жыл бұрын
Its normal. I just got around to trying this as well. Keep looking and you will find small containers with collateral in the hundreds of thousands. I did 5 of them last night while I couldn't pay attention to my phone. I had to search around a bit and sadly ended up finding some at Jita.
@seussiii
@seussiii 4 жыл бұрын
How do you avoid pirates? I was considering covert ops cloaking but without that aren't you extremely vulnerable? Great videos btw
@CuriosCaliffo
@CuriosCaliffo 4 жыл бұрын
this is not available now right?
@AlextheBlaster
@AlextheBlaster 5 жыл бұрын
You could make a vid on salvaging debris for parts which is very important for rigs. I've got a map of all faction territory I could send on discord
@andrewr.ludlow2722
@andrewr.ludlow2722 4 жыл бұрын
Is it still on discord?
@VADER677
@VADER677 5 жыл бұрын
The Imicus is The Best Looking Ship in Eve Echoes. Period!
@VEGETK0
@VEGETK0 5 жыл бұрын
си джей к февралю!
@johnblack1212
@johnblack1212 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing EVE Echoes for a couple of days now and I've been using a Kestrel to hunt pirates for money. I've got enough to buy an Algos that I'm interested in but I don't know anything about drones. Could you possibly do a tutorial on drones? p.s. I'm really loving your EVE tutorials they help so much! p.p.s. I subbed to your channel!
@gewinner5379
@gewinner5379 5 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about stripmining? Is it worth it etc.
@bloostudios2130
@bloostudios2130 4 жыл бұрын
Man hauling this update makes 2 million per hour got a jackpot 750,000 ISK
@jurajschiller8557
@jurajschiller8557 5 жыл бұрын
Hi can you make video on probes scanning please
@jurajschiller8557
@jurajschiller8557 5 жыл бұрын
Captain Benzie what About strip mining and archeology is that part of same thing?
@xander_campbell9941
@xander_campbell9941 5 жыл бұрын
That's the problem, the payouts are horrible. The money to time required ratio is turning a lot of people off doing it, which is a shame because as you said it is a very profitable business on Eve Online. If they overhauled the whole system and greatly increased the payout then the profit margins would be worth the time, and having a system where you could hire protection and being able to pay for it and still make it worth while, would have more people doing it! I know from a private protection point I can all but guarantee safe routes.....but it takes a lot of skill points to max those skills and a lot of money to have the best weapons, modules and rigs. So when the payout isn't worth it for the logistics guy, how can it be worth it for the protection guy?! Then there's the point of view from the people ordering deliveries. I since the beginning have made 106 delivery requests and 44 have failed, which obviously puts me off from paying for deliveries and I end up doing the collection myself! And to be honest I don't know where the isk is going because the cost of logistics is absurd, like I was ordering an item which was 100k, but the logistics cost was 800k! The whole system needs overhauled and they have to keep in mind that this isn't Eve on PC, it's Eve on mobile! Another good yin mate ✌️
@WatchTower10
@WatchTower10 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video, too bad I figured it out a few hours before you posted this video. Also why you dissin my boy Imicus
@boltslingergaming9451
@boltslingergaming9451 4 жыл бұрын
I need to point out that you can get to your auto pilot deviation a much easier way then you are doing it in your video
@boltslingergaming9451
@boltslingergaming9451 4 жыл бұрын
Click on the container at the bottom it tells you the destination click on that then confirm auto pilot
@kyle1520
@kyle1520 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a messanger bag.
@sinmaan7568
@sinmaan7568 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone actually making decent isk with "deliveries"? I can hardly find jobs and when i do they pay so little it is a waste of time. A small cargomat 100m3 evaluated at 100 isk/m3 should give 10,000 isk no? I always get a way smaller payout...
@ThatDudeCalled
@ThatDudeCalled 5 жыл бұрын
This is what I dont get.. like me, most of your containers had less profit for delivering then what you paid for them? I would pay like 300k in collateral for one container. Then the profit is like 50k... Why? Edit: Ohhh, of course... You get the collat back... 🤦🏽‍♂️
@scriptxkid9563
@scriptxkid9563 5 жыл бұрын
But still not worth 50k after hundred of jumps
@xerty5502
@xerty5502 5 жыл бұрын
Think you guys are not paying attention to the math if the collateral is set near the value then 50k is 1/6 the value you are paying away all your profits you really need to move as much volume as possi le and small ships are not good places to hull low value goods they can't carry enough bulk to make it worth while. For industrialist to actually use shippers there production and material cost and shipping cost have to be less then there sell price. None of these ships really have the cubage to hull worth while amounts of most goods that allow the trucker to take enough orders to make money
@ThatDudeCalled
@ThatDudeCalled 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse me? I've done the math. It's extremely simple. So don't insult me by making such a crass comment. The time it takes to do say, 30 jumps, is more than enough time to source a ship, build it and sell it. Selling ships will get you a lot more money. So maybe before you try and "educate" us. Learn the game yourself.
@xerty5502
@xerty5502 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThatDudeCalled not talking about that you seemed unbelieving at the lack of profit margins on hauling if you were merely disgusted then mu comment was unneaaaery but was saying that 50k profit on 300k value is ruinous for who ever is shipping to market and yes that means that it is not worth some ones time to haul your cargo
@benjaminkaliner6160
@benjaminkaliner6160 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man Imicus is a really ugly looking ship but it makes 5,5 AU, faster than every other ship you showed at this video... ;)
@benr6918
@benr6918 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ain’t no 50k now
@cohandora
@cohandora 4 жыл бұрын
That's one ugly looking ship😁
@velocity7643
@velocity7643 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't like the auto pilot I wish we could turn it off
@velocity7643
@velocity7643 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainbenzie thank you for the quick reply will u be setting up a corporation when the game goes live
@AlextheBlaster
@AlextheBlaster 5 жыл бұрын
Such a waste that it was nerfed
@samrothman
@samrothman 4 жыл бұрын
the ugliest ship ever designed it is omG... wtf is ccp thinkin... omg.. can we make petision or something to ccp so them can make the ship design better and streamline? right now some of the ship just like something not serious in design and concept. I mean they are 20 years developer and EvE is a long game already, it just look so low and unprofessional
@samrothman
@samrothman 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Benzie - EVE Echoes hahahah thats a good point of and really bad one at the same time man 😂
@sonniheinlein9260
@sonniheinlein9260 4 жыл бұрын
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