EVE Online: I Finally Left Highsec!

[@MattPlaysMusic]

Just found your channel yesterday or the day before, and I like it a lot so far. You are a fantastic story teller! Can't wait to watch some more of your vids

[@Expedishun]

I definitely appreciate it that bud!

[@danton8788]

All good mate, enjoy yourself. It's great to see you've journal'd your experience and it's been enjoyable to watch. I've picked up ice mining and I'm set up to enjoy the good long grind. Make it convenient and enjoyable and then it happens as it needs to. o7 Fly safe!

[@Expedishun]

I am thoroughly enjoying the new life, it's definitely put a lot of enjoyment back into the game for me. Wasn't expecting that. Enjoy that ice, get that isk!

[@renatlottiepilled]

It's cool that you two did that and that everyone's helped you, hard to find a good corp, harder to join a good one in null lol. Personally I've had not great experience in null, I was in Fraternity and I felt like just a small cog in the machine sure the money's good but never got into fleets or anything. I then joined a small alliance, incredibly cool guys and fun but not in my timezone so I was the only one online at one time (that's how I lost a Rattlesnake) so I kinda don't like it even a bit BUT that's just me. I recently sold everything I had, bought a bunch of frigates, destroyers and some cruisers and I joined faction warfare, it's been a week and I'm loving it, just pure pvp content all day every day, fleets daily and so on (I'm currently 2nd top character in the 24th crusade corp zkillboard ranking!) Anyway in short, very cool that you did that! I know whatever videos you make next will be interesting

[@Expedishun]

It's sad to hear that your experience in null wasn't great. It really does show that the company you have when in null is what makes it. The corp I'm apart of, like I mentioned before are mostly in US time zones, but they have been making an effort to get more EU people in, so that no matter the time you're on, someone will be on too. Ya know, I've seen a lot of factional warfare videos recently, it does look very interesting. Could be something I could dabble in. Gonna do some research and see where that leads me. Never know, could run into you on the battlefield somewhere!

[@zaqq]

Good stuff dude, its hard to find a good group so make the most of that.

[@Expedishun]

It is indeed. The fact that some people who I use to play with back then seemed to get excited by the fact I was coming back says a lot about the corp. They are a fun bunch to be around that's for sure

[@floppyspud]

Welcome to the imperium! Hope you enjoy your new life down south.

[@Expedishun]

Thank you! It is very much enjoyable so far!

[@Dvarable]

It's good to shake up your eve life every now and then. You can join spectre fleets in case you ever move back to HS and want to do things besides mining ice :3

[@Expedishun]

I will definitely keep that in mind 😃

[@sampalmer9628]

What are spectre fleets?

[@christofferkristiansson4767]

I just started playing EVE a couple weeks back and recently managed to get into a friends corporation. We're also based in nullsec. It's been a blast so far, although a bit off a rough start for a new player that doesn't have lots of ships for ratting. Hope it goes well for you.

[@Expedishun]

Yea, you just jumped into the deep end there hahah

[@christofferkristiansson4767]

@@Expedishun Haha, yep. But i've manage to farm 700m now only from exploration in a 1.7m worth Magnate fit, and will be able to properly rat low lvl hubs in a Myrm by next week :D baby steps. Enjoy your stories, keep em coming!

[@Expedishun]

@@christofferkristiansson4767 that’s quite a leap you’ve made from starting! Making that much from a cheap ship has to feel good! I know a lot of people fly Asteros, but I love my Buzzard. 40m fit and has made me billions in return😂

[@imperiumnovus2019]

the best thing people can do in eve is leave the high sec and experience the real eve online, with the right alliance and corp you feel like you're part of a big family in 0.0 someone attacks you and you're in something big? the family comes and saves you

[@Expedishun]

Definitely is a different way of life outside of Highsec

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

As someone who has tried everything in eve atleast once, I say you and everyone else that plays eve should do it. Wormholes are fun pvp/pve, I've done with a semi large group and solo, both different experiences. lowsec also, small gang pvp and doing ded sites and gas. nullsec was good with a big coalition, lots of isk to make and big fights that make eve news, solo living in Npc null was pretty fun too, hunting people and doing DED sites. thera is a fun place to live and get kills and wormhole pve in the connections. pochoven was kinda hard to live it since I couldn't use gates for a long time but after that it's quite fun, like wormholes but with perma gates. I of course lived in highsec at the start, mining and hauling, doing industry building things, but also lived in a highsec pocket surrounded by lowsec, that was much more fun and many more sites to run, especially since local was almost always empty. I've done mining, exploration, pvp, pve, running a corp, trading and hauling, so I've found my place in eve, which is solo and small gang pvp with exploring and whatever else I feel like :D

[@Expedishun]

Thats what the game is all about, just doing what you love! Yea, before I left high sec, I started spending a good amount of time in wormholes. It was an insane amount of fun. The fact you could be jumped at any time, especially for being a solo player. Once I get setup down here, I am definitely going looking for wormholes.

[@davidcoyne20691]

What was your favourite ice system you harvest. Kind regards David.

[@Expedishun]

Was a system in Null sec I use to live in called LN-56V

[@davidcoyne20691]

@@Expedishun any In high sec?

[@Expedishun]

@@davidcoyne20691 Yea, I stayed in Halaima in high sec. Ice belt there and only 4 jumps from Jita

[@TheSplitskater911]

Care to mention the name of the corp sounds like exactly what I am looking for? Really liking you content.

[@Expedishun]

Message me in game and I will get chatting to you about it!

[@TheLime-wd3yu]

I went through the same kind of arc, I started playing and got caught up in how much money I (thought) I was making through mining. I did hisec, lowsec, then eventually null with a corp that focused entirely on mining and had schedules for moon mining. Eventually I was just bored, seeing a jackpot moon stopped being exciting even though I was making a lot of ISK. I moved to a nullsec corp that was more focused on PvP, they still did moon mining but after a few weeks I stopped. I started doing exploration and ratting instead, which when mixed with PvP was way more fun. We've since moved to lowsec, but I still keep an Ishtar and a Buzzard in a quiet-ish area of null. When I feel like doing quiet solo content, I'll jump clone over to the null NPC station and check for valuable data and relic sites, DED sites, or Havens / Sanctums. With a relatively cheap Ishtar I usually do 25m per tick in ratting, with Overseer Personal Effects being the other guaranteed income. With drops from bosses and rare spawns, I'd say I average around 500m a week by spending 3-4 hours in null. Way better than any singlebox solo mining I know of, and way more engaging than moon mining. If you get an escalation from ratting, check on Eve wiki to see if it's something where you can just headshot the boss- if so, use a stealth bomber then bookmark the wreck, wait two minutes, and warp back to scoop the loot. Out of the three escalations I've gotten in the past two months (running approximately 20 total sites) one dropped an 800m implant and the other a 300m implant. Always check for DED sites in your local area, and always pursue an escalation in a cheap ship if you can!

[@TheLime-wd3yu]

Forgot to add- my strategy for solo null life is to focus on immediate payout (bounties) and only pick up low density high value loot. I don't bother with MTUs, mining of any kind, or PI. The only loot I want is the loot I can get past a gatecamp in a shuttle, sneakily move with my Buzzard when the gatecampers are asleep, or get lucky with a hisec wormhole near my null home station.

[@Expedishun]

That tactic of checking the DED sites and stealth bombing is an insanely genius idea! Definitely gonna give a try bud!

[@TheLime-wd3yu]

@@Expedishun Curious to see your results! The stealth bomber approach is only useful for certain escalations where the boss spawns in the first pocket on a timer, trying to actually clear sites in a stealth bomber takes ages. For DED sites, in Serpentis space I can breeze through 7/10 and 10/10 in a cheap Ishtar, I haven't tried the final room of an 8/10 in my new fit though. My old fit would struggle with it so I imagine the new one should make it easy, if you're in a Rattlesnake I doubt you'll encounter any issues. Also just in case you haven't seen it yet- NPC dreads can spawn in the final wave of Havens and Sanctums (as well as ore and ice belts) so always make sure you're paying attention when you're down to the last few ships in a wave.

[@Expedishun]

@@TheLime-wd3yu I will definitely keep you updated! Still learning the ins and outs of high level ratting. When I’m high sec, the highest level DED escalation I ever got was 5, so coming down to null and instantly jumping into level 7,8,9 and even 10s has been a learning experience for sure!

[@anthonyzullo]

I multibox gilas and an ishtar, 5 characters and make a bil a day minimum. Way more engaging and fun and so much more isk that I ever made in industry. Never gonna break another rock pr worry about plexing again. Been 3 solid months of that and I'm finally not in that tax bracket now. Now I trade in billions and that, pvp, ratting, wh fishing etc. Especially now that I run my own corp and rent null space so I'm not a slave to a sov and eve has become FUN again. Imo, multiboxing is the only sure fire way to be successful in eve.

[@elfypooh]

Ah man I was going to come join ya in Halaima within the next few days haha. I know the feeling you were getting for Eve. I have 3 accounts and what set it off is when I started seeing CCP advertise for multiple account deals. To me, CCP has been far too pay to win, which made me quit. Also, the bumping and gate mechanics and so on and so forth, but eve is such a good game at the same time. Nulsec for me a is no go, because it stops me from taking a break from Eve. If I take a week break, say, the system may be taken over or some corps have login rules. Anyway, good luck in nulsec! Your videos are very entertaining. I'm so rusty at Eve so I'll probably take it slow and just do some mining, missions and learn PI. always wanted to do PI. If I could i'd probably join red vs blue(two corps constantly at war with each other) again but their corps seems to be dead 😢 BTW, if you like helping players there's always EVE University. You can help new players, socialise, fleet up and lecture a bit. Also if you're interested in games which make you think and Eve is getting too much, I recommend Oxygen Not Included and Stationeers(co-op included).

[@Expedishun]

That's bad timing bud! The days of being stuck in Halaima, are thankfully done. Null isn't for everyone, but I have gotten myself into a nice wee area where I can mine relatively uninterrupted, I can do a lot of combat sites when I have free time. This time around, I am thoroughly enjoying every aspect of the Null Sec life

[@yesimant]

glad to see your leaving null be carefully with shadow ultimatum however

[@rayderrich]

First and foremost I hope you and your brother will find the fun back in the game. I do hope you will remain to be able to make these videos but that is very self-centered of me, I know, but I just started to love 'em.

[@Expedishun]

I appreciate that! Don't worry though, these videos aren't going away. Still planning all the videos I had in mind. In fact, this move has given me more to make videos on!

[@rayderrich]

@@Expedishun I bet the null corp would not want you to reveal anything about them, but perhaps your high sec toon is still able to make fun content. Anyways, thank you for being open, and also thank you for making me meet others in game already.

[@Expedishun]

@@rayderrich I'm not overly sure, but I will keep them as private as possible, just due to the fact, I make videos and none of them has approached me to say they don't mind being in them, so for that, I will keep them private, unless they say otherwise. Im glad you have met others, and hope to meet many more too!

[@patbrownlee5274]

The only way to play having fun....

[@Expedishun]

Exactly just gonna do what I enjoy

[@pythonxz]

I'm going to be honest. It will seem fun to be in null at first, then comes your first CTA and the angry FCs that clearly play the game way too much. I think you'll find that null sec will feel more like work than what you were doing in high sec. I'd recommend wormhole corp...trust me. That's where I've had the most fun in EVE.

[@Expedishun]

The corp I’m in, before we kinda left the game for a while, we were a Wormhole corp, with no alliance, and tbh I didn’t enjoy it. Right now, this is the most fun I’ve had in Eve. I’ve been in high, null and Wormhole, and this area of Null we are in is insanely enjoyable. Only time will tell tho

[@shinnister]

@@Expedishun while i agree with the guy above, i do hope you enjoy eve wherever u decided to live! maybe give wh another shot way down the line

[@Expedishun]

@@shinnister to be honest bud, at this stage, nothing is off the table

[@thomastrain7934]

i hear the "go to nullsec" deal alot. I've done it. I guess the thing is the level of RULES and how they are aggressively dealt with by some in large null sec alliances is completely incongruent to how you entice people to actually want to be a part of what they are a part of. Some of the engagement is downright anti-social. you wonder what is missing from these peoples' lives? They could attract so many more "bees" or "hordelings" with honey than some of the vitriol they allow to happen. just a SMH moment.

[@ogdobs8512]

So what corp did you go to?

[@Expedishun]

I went back to my old Corp

[@ogdobs8512]

@Expedishun is it a mage corp like goons ph or a smaller corp jw if your in my corp or not 🤔

[@Expedishun]

@@ogdobs8512 Whats your ingame character name?

[@ogdobs8512]

@@Expedishun officialdobs

[@Expedishun]

@@ogdobs8512 No, not in my corp. Could be in the same alliance tho

[@calholder86]

Can I join your corp too?

[@Expedishun]

Send me a message in game, and we can chat

[@mike12skater]

Seen this coming

[@Expedishun]

In a bad way?

[@WayTooSuppish]

Let me guess. In order to leave highsec you joined an alliance. Or you pay rent to one. I hate people

[@kilner79]

do what you need to do just keep makign videos i allmost listen liek a podcast to be fair

[@Expedishun]

I always have gameplay, but for the most part I have designed my videos to be listened in like a podcast style. I like to have it that, if you just want to listen, you're not gonna miss anything.

[@albertpietrosanu2667]

After many years I uninstal EVE forever! I hope Starfield to not be sutch a desaster as Star Citizen.

[@D4niel_EU]

Doua jocuri diferite prietenas. Si fiind un joc Bethesda va fi plin de buguri la inceput.

[@crowsbridge]

Isn't starfield single-player? I thought it was like space skyrim

[@dullahandan4067]

multiple accounts are the biggest turn off to this game

[@Expedishun]

I only use two accounts for mining, anything else and it’s single account for me

[@ohhkennny766]

You kind of NEED atleast two accounts, One for PVP and the other one for basically everything else. Otherwise you will get ganked and targeted 24/7 on your main if you PVP and PVE on it

[@Expedishun]

@@ohhkennny766 You definitely do not need two accounts. Two accounts makes certain things in the game easier, but its definitely not a requirement

[@ohhkennny766]

@@Expedishun pretty much

[@ZeroWalker26]

I did that mistake I left hic sec for null and I lost 5bill sense going null and made back maybe 700mill thanks to ratting being ass and thanks to basically 90% of all good or is moved to low sec. Heck for the past 2 weeks I been in null I never seen mercoxit. I only seen Akanor and Bistot and does are shit mostly, small or medium sites with 1200-3000 m3 per asteroid and the worst part is they are like 40-50km apart so I spend more time travelling than mining. Honestly living in a 0.5 system next to low sec has been the best thing so far. I take some trips to low and to WH space. But yeah joining null was a damn mistake higher the risk but shittier reward. Sure the corp is awesome sadly we are like 2 people online most of the time. The alliance is nice but the intel is shit lost a marauder becuse no one bothers with intel. Honestly I mostly have regret joining null and my wallet suffered shitloads thanks to it. And yes ratting is ass I make like 34mill an hour becuse in my ishtar it takes me 29min to do 1 site and that´s 17mill in bounty and in 1 hour I make 2 sites so 34mill plus loot if I can loot becuse there are always so damn much traffic there is no point in taking the loot or you die. That being said im glad your brother is enjoying Null sec wish I could as well.

[@Expedishun]

So far, my experience has been vastly different from yours. In the last 3 days, I've made around 400 million ISK. The intel channel we have is constantly active, and if you ask for help a fleet forms and drops in on the system you need help in. The rat sites, I'm currently doing level 7 and 8s. The bounties plus the ESS and the loot are all worth it. Mining Ice and Mercoxit are plentiful down where I am, yea there's some travelling between ores, but generally speaking, I've full ice belts and ore sites to myself, to mine at my leisure. Everyones experience differs from player to player and area to area. Its shit that you had a bad experience, but its the opposite of mine

[@renatlottiepilled]

Bro my experience was kinda the same, my corp and alliance are great but null is...kinda boring I too lost billions, made some billions back of course but not at all what I had originally (I lost a rattlesnake and a couple of DST while moving so...). I decided to go for faction warfare and man, it's actually super fun, living un lowsec is very kinda fun, it's hard-ish to make isks but infinitely more fun that null, content always, fleets always, just look up how to turn LP into ISK and is so good, also it's very easy to just jump into highsec and make money there or jump into null and explore or do whatever really, way better than living in null

[@ZeroWalker26]

@@renatlottiepilled Yeah I lost my only Vagur in null. I had it for weeks doing dome sites now and then i WH no problem. Lost it 1 day in null becuse I did not fix my own intel. I should have scanned for Worm holes becuse that´s where the people came from who killed me. There shit loads of times I see nutes passing by but are never reported until I report them. Like why do we even have an intel channel when no one barely use it or they tell you your loss is your fault becuse you did not spend 10-20 min scanning down all potential worm holes. I would love to do FW but im so bad at pvp and lose so much isk I end up having to quit doing pvp and lick my wounds for months >.

[@floppyspud]

how did you lose so much in nullsec?

[@ZeroWalker26]

@@floppyspud well useless intel. I basicly have to ger my own intel. Also when I lost my very first vagur ever they got me right on a new cykle. They came from a wh I did not know about. The alliance knew but said it was my own fault for not scaning it down. Then I lost a few other ship and some few ships to volunter pvp. And now im down to 70mill in wallet and 500 in 2 ships I use for ratting which nets me 34mill an hour becuse they have shittt dps thank to me not having t2 heavy until 20 days.