Even More New Chess Pieces!

In this video, I play my first ever game of "Chess XXL" a crazy new variant which involves several new types of chess pieces on a giant 14x14 chess board.
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[@kormagogthedestroyer]

This is how the rest of us feel about regular chess

[@sam-wm2dd]

Yes

[@Sinzari]

It's fun seeing a 2700 rated online IM struggle the same way an 800 rated player does, on this board. Makes being an IM feel more human

[@Charmlie.R]

Yea 100%, especially just the time struggle too where you don't want to make a poor move but you can't really easily dummy check every angle. It's like having bishop blinders all over again lmao

[@ButcherParry]

Don't mess with the camel One of the hardest moves to see in chess that doesn't exist

[@davew4304]

Disagree.The piece itself is a little harder to identify though

[@Charmlie.R]

@@ButcherParry its interesting, i think the camel is similar to learning knights early on too, you just need time to learn to see the squares in your head. The issue i think is partly that its further out, you can get used to not counting for knights but further and further out your brain starts to second guess itself. Also the board being huge makes it worse, since now individual tiles are also smaller

[@iplay9s]

it's confusing since I'm 700 points below him in standard but saw all his blunders easily here like watching a beginner even though I've never played this variant or seen any of these pieces before. maybe I should start playing variants

[@AndreaMoorita]

*First excuse my poor English* but I hope Eric Rosen reads it. Hi everyone, this is my favorite variant and despite to be 1100 rated I have managed to reach the top 11 (currently 14) and I think I can give you some good advice. The value of the pieces Depend of a lot of factors: if you find yourself in the opening, middle game or endgame, mobility, forwardness, distance, colorboundness, capture etc. Besides the value of pieces its a bit diferent respect to other variants due the size of the board. Knight : 2-2.5 points only can move on 8 squares, short range atack only works as suport. Camel : 1.75 to 2.25 Colorboundness, medium range 8 jumps, but its only works as a support, defense piece and as a sacrifice of past pawns (in endgame its value is less) Bishop : 3.5-4 Colorboundness, squares 25 (in average game 15-20) large range, very useful in openings and stop pawns. rook : 5.25 support for pawn promotion, Mobility 26, moves very easily from one side of the board to another. General : 4.75 to 5.25 (endgames) mobility 16, short range, the best king's best defender and support of pawns, its value increases when there are fewer pieces. hawk : 7.25-7.75 mobilitity 33, large range, very tricky and annoying piece (both movements complement each other very well) Elephant 8.5 mobility 34, works better in endgame (capture pawns and perpetual check) is less tricky but stronger than the Archbishop queen 9.5-10 mobility 51, no explanation needed. Amazon 12-12.5 in endames mobility 59, vulnerable to camel atack, So OP, is deadly to kings. The principal strategy is promote pawns with support of Chancellor and Rooks. I2 (I13) is vulnerable (Chancellor, Archbishop can capture the Rook) J2 (J13) too, For example you can capture with Chancellor this pawn General takes obligatorily and Amazon or Archbishop x general is checkmate. Usually the The king is more safe in the center of the board. General (at lest one) is a great defender Archbishop + Bishop are great to capture control squares of promotion. You can push a lot of pawns (is risky very efective). Activate pieces is important (Amazon is so vulnerable) preferably keep your pieces defended against each other (no fork) Endgames happen infrequently, Even in a lost position a queen or the Amazon you can draw with perpetual check, passed pawns are very strong if your opponent doesn't have a piece of large range. if someone has a question I will answer it

[@repacharge431]

Just want to stop by to say how awesome you are for sharing this information with us.

[@ItsAsparageese]

This is awesome, thanks for this! Really great write-up. I have a little confusion over some names. Could you clarify a bit with a quick list of what pieces you're referring to by what names? I get the camel of course, & I understand the hawk to be a bishop-knight & understand the elephant to be a rook-knight, & I know I've seen queen-knight called an amazon ... but I'm not clear on whether general & chancellor both refer to the king-knight or if they're different things (at least one of those is the king hybrid, right?) & I'm not sure at all what an archbishop is or if it's interchangeable with another term, because I think I've seen it used a few different ways. Thanks for your effort in sharing all this great info! I'm oddly intrigued by this variant lol. Edit: commander -> chancellor lol oops

[@awatermelone9436]

@@ItsAsparageese chancellor is the rook-knight and the archbishop is the bishop-knight its another name for it idk about the general tho maxthexpfarmer said in his comment what they were too so the general is the king-knight

[@polychromaa]

@@ItsAsparageese in gothic chess it's an archbishop and chancellor. In seirawan chess we use hawk and elephant instead. Archbishops are hawks. Chancellors are elephants.

[@AndreaMoorita]

@@awatermelone9436 Amazona = Queen + Knight (A [notation]) Archbishop = Bishop + Knight (H for Hawk) Chancellor = Rook + Knight (E for Elephant [C for Camel ]) General = King + Knight (M [G is from Grasshopper]) Thanks

[@siiuuu7835]

Imagine how many arrows Hikaru would draw on this board😂

[@arkbeetlegaming]

I can Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take and Take. Nah, imma just Castle.

[@DjSapsan]

Yes

[@Dragon-Slay3r]

Light eyes Daal meh kuch kaala hai

[@Encs_the_vlogger]

Probably infinite

[@sam-zi9zw]

The horsey: *confuses every 800 rated player* The camel: hold my bear

[@ItsAsparageese]

Is "bear" on purpose? Either way fabulous word choice for this context lol. I feel like a bear piece should be sorta like a camel, with the extended-but-finite initial charge of 3 squares straight down any row/file ... except then (just first idea that comes to mind) ending with the option to stay straight for the final square instead of doing the final diagonal square motion. Like a bear doing a fast scary short burst of a charge, then swiping wherever it wants in a burst of destruction once it arrives! Ooh or alternatively ... it could move 3 or 4 squares any direction & just be more simple that way, easier to get used to, BUT let's say it can only move precisely that much & not stop sooner & also make it have a capture effect on multiple pieces in a row within that distance without having to stop on the first capture square. Then theoretically bear among enemy pieces could take out up to 3 or 4 at once, however far it's decided it could go. I feel like that's very bearlike XD

[@sam-zi9zw]

@@ItsAsparageese No that's a typo but it turned out accidentally brilliant lol

[@ItsAsparageese]

@@sam-zi9zw ooh! I usually don't jive with meta-game-ification but that sounds fire. I'd like to see there be ways to earn points by grinding training/puzzles too so they're not just earned by winning, but overall hell yeah

[@marcomarletta1430]

Imagine a llama piece that moves like the camel but even 1 square further lol

[@ItsAsparageese]

@@marcomarletta1430 I love this lol. I feel like it'd need to be called a giraffe though Fun fact: All mammals (except like 2 species or something like that) have only 7 vertebrae in their necks just like we do, right up to giraffes. They're just much longer vertebrae lol

[@maxthexpfarmer3957]

the names are: knight+queen=amazon knight+king=general knight+rook=chancellor knight+bishop=archbishop

[@donshingondonvergonio2247]

Wrong, theyre all camels.

[@ritikakela]

KNOOK!!!

[@hbfdfgjcyk555]

@@ritikakela holy hell

[@henrychess3]

The real names are: kneen, kning, knook, and knishop

[@asteiner274]

So is the camel just a camel?

[@dukeofanchor]

09:13 “d’oh I forgot about the camel” Words never said before during a chess game

[@genesisx4]

Now add a Duck to this also

[@mg0790]

Eric, try developing your pieces and controlling the centre 😄

[@nimiugn]

16:04 You see, Eric… the reason camels are so confusing especially in time scramble is because you can’t see them easily, as they are camel-flagged. I’ll see myself out.

[@ItsAsparageese]

At first I couldn't see the joke but then I squinted a little bit and found it lmao

[@riley_028]

I'm gonna go watch some regular chess and it's gonna feel so tiny and cramped

[@ryanlind5239]

These videos playing weird variants have been super fun

[@zamplify]

Pawns may be the soul of chess but camels are the hump.

[@EdgePOG]

Dang all those pawns and it didn’t matter, was rooting for you to win ur first game w this ridiculous setup. Thrilling content as always!

[@timothyryan3031]

I love chess variants, but what I hate is that people always play them with only 3 or 5 minutes on the clock. It's a whole new set of rules to wrap my mind around, it should be a slow game for best enjoyment. I hate timing out when I'm trying to even figure out what to do. But nobody wants to play a slow game.

[@davidrobins1021]

100% agree. I'd want at least 15+10 time control for this, certainly to begin with. You're re-wiring your chess brain when it comes to the hybrid pieces, and trying to play a 3- or 5-minute game is ridiculous.

[@Litago94]

Finding opponents willing to play variants over the board is not the same as an stroll in the park, just saying.

[@swarnadipmitra1095]

Yes I want to play this against an ai with no time limit like countless normal chess apps.

[@Coreyinthehouse]

“I just played Kite to H8, attacking the rook on N14” -Eric Rosen

[@dukesilver702]

This might be my favorite IMRosen video ever

[@digging_]

Anarchychess is really happy rn

[@mrmuffcabbage9421]

The mighty knook

[@boredishfish2717]

That was mind boggling. So hard to keep track of each of the pieces on such a large board! Especially that sneaky camel 😂 Great video, Eric. Thanks for the fun 🙃

[@shiina29]

There're so many Queens, they should call this the Oh No My Queens variant.

[@elijahrose7913]

This was fun to watch. You will do better later. I thought you should have resigned early but then you came back. You did forget how the pieces moved mid came then blundered into the ending

[@nomer440]

I think to stream XXL chess we need a tele cam panning and zooming

[@aldante7079]

I didn’t even know that chess could have an update 😂

[@omribrenner]

17:19 mate in 1?

[@jaredkasoff9735]

where?

[@eminence_]

yes

[@omribrenner]

@@jaredkasoff9735 king knight one down

[@jaredkasoff9735]

@@omribrenner ahhh i see very nice

[@depressivepumpkin7312]

I want to see pieces that take up more than one square, and you have to attack them with more than one piece

[@ItsAsparageese]

Now that's a wild direction to take things in lol. Gives me nostalgic Magic: The Gathering vibes. Could be really interesting, & I think a board this size would suit it well

[@hy7864]

There's Dyadic Pawn Chess which is a variant where pawns occupy 2 tiles Also in chesscraft there's Tree of Entanglement & piece on there is on two places at the same time

[@ItsAsparageese]

@@hy7864 Holy crap. The chess variants lore runs way deeper than I ever imagined lol

[@petersmythe6462]

Me normally when you play chess: "I have no idea what you're doing." Me when you play variants: "you have no idea what you're doing."

[@pancho5003]

This is so cool Eric please so more of this variation!

[@methearatanakmunin1108]

What variant is this?

[@stefanf922]

Seems like bishops and queen iterations are the strongest, rook iterations second, and knights last

[@UltraLightSP]

Lol when you were saying "what happens when the white runs out" -- it's funny you've never noticed Bronstein time control before.

[@doctorc-ton1099]

There's 3 other variants that use these hybrid pieces. Courier Chess (which has even more different looking pieces), Capablanca Chess, and Grand Chess which use a few of the pieces described for this game like the hybrid bishop/knight and rook/knight combinations. The difference though is that Capablanca chess is an 10x8 board and Grand Chess is a 10x10 board. Courier is 12x8 board. I think with each variant adds to the level of game play that takes all standard chess theory and pushes it into more difficult territory because of the added pieces to consider. I would believe that at some point, the top Chess players should consider playing the variants if they get bored with the standard 64 square board.

[@aero7848]

Camel's are op because nobody knows how they move lol

[@mekan0001]

Never thought I'd come to the day where I would hear something like "oh my n14 pawn is hanging"

[@maxomega3]

so many missed captures with the camel, but i think 12:17 was the most heartbreaking

[@ItsAsparageese]

Oof. I didn't see that, was looking at black's queens too much lol good catch

[@18JMCPRODUCTIONS18]

Its funny because he put the camel there to defend it 😂 cant blame him tho

[@Jamonpeligroso]

I legit yelled "NOOOOO! Your Camel!!"

[@petersmythe6462]

"Oh no my pawn" No. Oh no their Amazon. Your camel could've recaptured. That was a catastrophic blunder for them.

[@JonGamer16]

The rabbit hole of chess variants goes deep There's 2 free-to-play games on Steam I know of, one called Favor Chess and another called Chess Evolved Online They both play similar to setup chess, but they're card games, and they throw in hundreds of different pieces and add RPG elements to it Favor Chess is a little closer to traditional chess mechanics, and Chess Evolved has a lot of funky pieces to see and use

[@maciejglinski6564]

Eric then: camels are kinda bad, right? Eric now: Smothered camel mate

[@xyz.anonymous]

Eric Rosen is going to become the Paul Morphie of Fairy Chess I just know it

[@Thete]

12:20 black hung his Amazon and Eric didn't notice lmao

[@kenbrown438]

My new pieces , I call the Prince and Pincess ; they place next to the Queen and King , and move up to three squares in any direction !!!!

[@VagueZ]

The camel piece seems amazingly awful here. A slow-moving piece on a giant board that's also locked to one color complex. That feels to me like it's a two-point piece, really.

[@zoe7696]

i think it's only real use is for blockading and controlling squares

[@ItsAsparageese]

I kinda agree but I suspect in deep theory it would have a lot more value. I mean I'm no expert & not sure but my intuitive guess is that someone who's good at the visual mapping part could be deadly with camel sneak attacks since it can hop around in harder-to-see-coming ways

[@ItsAsparageese]

Ooh also, if one looks at pieces more as paired teammates (which I think is justified with this bigger board & more complex piece array), a camel offers substantial board control when generally teamed up near any regular knight, let alone another knight hybrid.

[@ЕвгенийЛ-в-э1ш]

...Now let’s see what the engine thinks... Stockfish: WTF?!

[@VariantChessDaily]

I love fairy pieces in XXL, the pawn promotion in the center is really tricky though

[@jaimem.hernandez1567]

The name of the pieces are: Knight + Bishop = Archbishop, Knight + Rook = Chancellor and Bishop + Knight + Rook = Amazon.

[@DelftTrains]

That game was so intense at the end lol

[@nobody27019]

The knight-queen piece actually has it's own name. It's called the Amazon. Edit: I found in Wikipedia that the knight-rook piece is called the Empress, and the knight-bishop - the Princess.

[@Raulxz]

No knight rook is called a knook

[@bearsaremonkeys]

im pretty sure it's kqueen

[@dert159]

Im pretty sure the knight bishop is hawk, and knight rook is elephant

[@maxthexpfarmer3957]

In this variant, it's Chancellor and Archbishop.

[@skylerdohr2205]

Eric, XXL chess is your opportunity to play the GIGACHAD opening

[@victorfinberg8595]

Be careful, Eric. This is a slippery slope to madness (watches video)

[@JonGamer16]

This is not madness. Look up Chess Evolved Online

[@victorfinberg8595]

@@JonGamer16 Didn't HP Lovecraft warn us about the Name that MUST Not be Spoken ?

[@JonGamer16]

@@victorfinberg8595 Ah, so you've heard of it too, then? It's inevitable, there's no use trying to avoid it

[@wenhanzhou5826]

I wonder how many points each piece would be worth. I feel like knights must be almost useless considering how big the board is. Pawns might actually be secretly op considering how "easy" it is for it to promote.

[@TrinityEcho]

15:04 "Oh no my queen" for real this time.

[@pinicius]

It's funny playing this video, where Eric says "the Camel doesn't seem so powerful" right after the recent "4 moves Camel mate" video.

[@D0mm3l01]

why where there so many mistakes hahahaha, the camel throing of eric. This gamemode seem intense

[@kingocookies]

what happens if the white circle does reach the end though??

[@petersmythe6462]

"It's like a supercharged knight" On that board it is probably as good as a knight or slightly better. On 8x8 camels is worth perhaps 2-2.5 pawns.

[@petersmythe6462]

"oh no your queen" That was an even trade. Their camel was defending it.

[@Worldsportstalk24]

Watching Eric keep blundering against the KnightKing (General) hurt my soul

[@ItsAsparageese]

The term I've heard for the knight-queen is an Amazon. I like it, to me it at least vaguely evokes a super powerful female warrior on horseback even if it's a bit of a stretch lol

[@danielyuan9862]

That is quight.

[@ItsAsparageese]

@@danielyuan9862 I like both haha. But I think once there are multiple knight hybrids involved, it becomes a problem to use portmanteaus instead of fully unique names. Too easily leads to confusion. I like every piece to have words & shapes that feel as distinct as possible in my brain.

[@davidrobins1021]

And I thought normal chess was difficult enough. This is so confusing with the hybrid pieces, like near the end when the opponent's knight/king was moving as a king, to give check as a knight. Insane, but looks fun. Have to check it out.

[@alrineusaldore6764]

the real names are: knight + queen = knueen knight + king = kning knight + rook = knook knight + bishop = knishop

[@pullupterraine199]

Now only one piece is missing: the Duck. Next, let's transpose it to a hexachess board with 3 opponents, and the last step would be to make it a 3D version, just like in the Big Bang Theory. 3D XXL HexaDuckChess, the Heavenly Game.

[@animefreak3010]

Lmao. I'd be willing to bet he hasn't blundered as many pieces as he did in this game in normal chess in the last 10k normal games he's played 😂. Also I caught onto how the pieces moved immigrants within seconds even the camel. Maybe I have a future in professional whatever this game type is called. Xl? He blundered at least 10-20x lol. Also him jumping at the end because he accidentally ran out of time had me dying

[@keejay98195]

ikr i felt like i had way better vision on the board than eric in this mode i was so surprised how many easy moves he missed and how often he blundered pieces by not seeing them attacked

[@dago6410]

I wanna see a variant which would be Seirawan Duck chess, its duck chess and S chess combined, you sometimes have to do 3 things in a move, move a piece and a hawk or elephant and then move the duck

[@The_Angry_Bacon]

1:07 that is called the Amazon (Queen + knight combined)

[@lonewanderer9499]

omg! omg! omg! I've been looking forward to this video ever since the teaser in the Seirawan chess video.

[@Lusc1nt]

Finally, Chess 2.0 was released

[@Jamonpeligroso]

I'm crying 🤣🤣🤣 Every move in that end game was like a camel blunder-off

[@darkinfo2]

The knight Queen is called Amazon

[@pairot01]

This is what it feels like to calculate variations on my head. The board looks big and disconnected.

[@MusikCassette]

there is a name convention, to call the combined knightpeaces mounted. S the "kight" would be mounted king. the "quight" would be a mounted queen. the "hawk" would be a mounte bishop. and the "right" would be a mounte rook.

[@petersmythe6462]

"bishops are way more valuable than knights." Yes. If there are 36 pieces remaining on the board (basically assuming a few (20) captures have taken place), the average mobility of a bishop is 10.19 vs a knights' 6.37. On the standard board with a similar fraction of pieces captured, those numbers are 5.91 and 2.25. The Amazon has an utterly bonkers 29.4 average mobility.

[@chandir7752]

17:19 Opponent missed the beautiful Mf4#

[@big_darkside2716]

Wow, this looks so cool. Thanks for sharing with us Eric

[@exuviumisopods]

Wow! This new chess game looks fascinating! 🤩 12:22 looks you could capture with the camel; and also if you moved your pawn passed the center line it would transformed to a queen...

[@HiddenBush64]

Oh Eric. So many possibilities 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14 in a row

[@張謙-n3l]

The camel is a (1,3) leaper, which moves 1 square horizontally and 3 vertically or vice versa, not really powerful since it is color bounded The knight with a king's crown is usually called knighted king or crowned knight, both represent a king + knight compound. The knight with bishop feet is called a princess, cardinal, or archbishop and I believe they're more names for it, it moves like a bishop or a knight. The knight with rook feet is called empress, chancellor, knook or a marshal, it moves like a knight or a rook. The knight with queen's crown is usually called amazon, it moves like a queen or a knight, so it can mimic all moves except en passant and castling. An interesting fact is that it competed with queen for being on the standard chess set, but eventually lose since it's so powerful

[@simbahit]

12:22 , you could've took that queen knight thingy with the camel

[@Verbalaesthet]

You were so close to winning!! Hilarious game mode. It reminds me of Shogi (Japanese Chess) where there are normal bords and huge board variations with gigantic armies.

[@FitinLizard]

me personally I always like to start with Chancellor-l3, if they take a passive move instead of pushing their l pawn one square, you get the l pawn followed by the rook, people like to see pieces in this game as very expendable so they ignore the chancellor until it's pinning the general while the archbishop cuts off the escape route being on n6 as the amazon crashes down onto j13. classic checkmate.

[@AnshumaanAnand]

im scared

[@HazyHerbivore]

Honestly I don't get struggling this hard in this mode

[@XIIchiron78]

This variant manages to recreate the feeling of being a complete novice with no board vision

[@Anttown123]

That ending when he blunderd 3-4 pieces to one knite was so hard to watch…

[@coffeedude]

This variant is so fun!!

[@alittleofeverythingandoj]

These new pieces are just the knight mixed with a random piece

[@PlatypusLLC]

that was a lot of fun in the end!

[@trumtrum5510]

Yet to watch the video but I love the calm demeanor and mood of your videos

[@zhoutianyang1120]

Several thoughts on this game: 1. Should not drive out Amazon (knight + queen) too early. 2. Rook Bishop and Knight are just like pawns since there are too many powerful pieces. Don't waste too much time on these pieces. 3. Since early king attacking is no longer feasible, one should try to keep good pawn (and RNB as well😂) structure to promote as many pawns as possible.

[@hy7864]

-Y not bring Amazon early?- -What r they gonna do?- -Trap it?-

[@trollar8810]

12:16 man the fact that you put your camel there to defend this pawn and when it got taken you didnt see it...

[@BethanyLowe8773]

Fun to see you blundering crazily while also being awesome at chess as usual

[@swarnadipmitra1095]

we can still have more pieces Camel + knight = hippo Camel + queen = zebra Camel + bishop = panda Camel + rook = dolphin Camel + king = lieutenant Camel + general(that’s the knight + king) = commander Camel + archbishop(that’s the knight + bishop) = pope Camel + chancellor(that’s the knight + rook)= wizard Camel + amazon(that’s the knight + queen)= Valkyrie

[@petersmythe6462]

Playing 1500-rated Blitz when you don't know how the pieces move is not the easiest thing ever.

[@denorio4951]

Thats look like a modern version of Tamerlane chess. It also have camel and have same movements

[@ibozz9187]

There’s a cool variant I’ve heard of called Tamerlane Chess but I can’t find a website that has it

[@teslainvestah5003]

1:20 the queen+knight piece is called an amazon. The king+knight is a general. How do you always have pieces that look different from mine?

[@CRONCHBOIWATER]

Now the Quite is the most valuable piece

[@simbahit]

“Oh no my queen”

[@kennystimpson2775]

Eric! When will you play shogi? Its like chess but much more complex

[@Gingham_tale]

I like when Eric said "Duh!"🤣

[@lakymos3124]

A knight and a queen is called an amazon

[@rosepinkskyblue]

12:22 could have taken the knight queen with the camel

[@bluemooneatlions]

12:20 the camel could’ve taken lol

[@petersmythe6462]

Someone should run a game analysis on this. Obviously the analysis feature for variants like this should just have Baka Mitai playing in the background.