New Searches for Dyson Spheres Found Something Featuring Jason Wright

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A discussion with Jason Wright on two new papers regarding Dyson Sphere candidates in infrared studies yielding 60 candidates.
"Search for Artificial Stellar Sources of Infrared Radiation", Dyson, 1960
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"A Data-Driven Search For Mid-Infrared Excesses Among Five Million Main-Sequence FGK Stars", Contardo and Hogg, 2024
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"Project Hephaistos - II. Dyson sphere candidates from Gaia DR3, 2MASS, and WISE", Suazo et al, 2024
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"IRAS-based Whole-Sky Upper Limit on Dyson Spheres", Carrigan, 2005
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[@CaptainDickGs]

Ok Wth? The pyramids were NOT & I repeat NOT tombs!!!!! No fucking mummies or burials have been found in pyramids. I thought a man of science would know this & not recite mainstream science hypotheses as fact when it is not. Until a mummy is found in a pyramid or any real evidence then the narrative of pyramids being tombs is solely & purely speculation & thats it. Speculation that evidence found actually goes against that speculation.

[@JoFuSoA]

Dyson Sphere never made sense to me. But I might be wrong.

[@yaldabaoth2]

It actually more likely that these are dyson spheres than keeps working.

[@SoApost]

Your guest is behind on the fact world population is already declining and it’s not due to quality of life improvements. This topic should be a show of yours about a great filter being civilizations anti-life cults that end civilization in the name of C’thulhu

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[@micky8ball]

I love this channel. I'm not a smart guy by any stretch, but I feel like this channel is a bridge for us regular guys who love looking up at the sky and wondering: what's out there?

[@poughkeepsieblue]

Im not a smart man Jenny...

[@poughkeepsieblue]

But i know what astroscience is...

[@poughkeepsieblue]

Crap.. no one is young enough to get this joke. I expect nothing.

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Cheers!

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I’m from Scotland(the west coast) I enjoy the channel very much as well!

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I am a Yank but at 63 I just learnd I am 30% Scot and even less English than I been told all my life! (DNA test)

[@jeholloway2]

Because of you I have learned so much I cannot enjoy videos that are not advanced. Thank you.

[@rapomnam]

Excellent, now I have something to listen to on the drive home!

[@alphazero6571]

move along, its just a shadow of methane gas trapped in weatherballoon shining from the light of venus during eclipse

[@garyr3179]

Remarkable interview with Jason Wright! With this many Dyson Sphere/Swarm candidates, one can't help but wonder how many may prove to be exactly that.

[@floridaman4073]

Now I think Tabby Star is one under construction. Happy to hear Ross is getting his Rizz back 😂

[@mattjack3983]

Well until evidence shows otherwise, that is a possibility

[@cacogenicist]

You're more likely to see an entire galaxy of Dyson swarms than you are one or 2, I think -- because it's highly improbable that you would find yourself living at exactly the right point in time to see the begining of technological civilization's expansion. If there were an extant tech civ in the galaxy, it should be everywhere -- almost all the stars should be paved over, so to speak. Because it is extremely likely to be at least tens of millions of years older than our civilization, more likely hundreds of millions, which is plenty of time to Dyson swarm all or a large percentage of the galaxy.

[@johanneshennig9068]

Yes. Short term dips are from huge dust clouds because they are mining/ breaking off parts of a planet. Long term dimming is from elements being continually constructed and added to the swarm. This is my head canon.

[@luminousfractal420]

its an alien sat on the telescope poking a finger into the view for the lols😂

[@riesstiu2khunning]

More like it "was" under construction. Until someone else in the Dark Forest spotted its technosignature. Now it's likely a ruin.

[@TheTyTyXD]

I love Jason’s appearances on your podcast. Sometimes these types of conversations turn into a sci fi “what if ALIENS and the pyramids” circle jerk. But you and Jason are great at inserting a healthy dose of skepticism. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll watch any podcast you put out as long as it’s not Avi Loeb whining about academic skepticism. Please have Jason on again!

[@badraccoon333]

Avi is a fine scientist. Get off him

[@Jeffrey-p6l]

Avi is awesome!!!but all thru history if you speak out you get called names. Think they hung people for saying the earth revolved around d the sun. I believe Avi!!!

[@Baleur]

Bit surprised and disappointed that you didnt ask him about the "wow-signal" analogue radio signal that was detected from Tabby's Star shortly after the initial light dimming hit the news. I clearly remember hearing about that on the national news, then a day later or so they said "the gyroscope malfunctioned on the telescope so the scientists couldnt continue tracking the signal, we will never know", and then nobody, ever, mentioned anything more about the radio signal again. Only about the light dimming.. And they specifically mentioned how odd it was to see two unique anomalies from the same star. It seems as if everyone forgot about that.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

I did not think to ask that, but it was actually a laser detection. What happened is that some optical SETI scientists were doing a survey of a ton of targets and they got one positive, which was Tabby's star. So they went back and looked at their equipment to see if there had been some sort of false reading and they concluded it was an errant cosmic ray hit on the detector. But it seemed sort of odd, almost as if they were trying to talk themselves out of it. That's pretty standard in science, knock it out, occam's razor. Radio SETI however has looked more extensively and detected nothing.

[@SamDoe-wh3bf]

Thanks so much john. These podcast always give me much to think about.

[@joannehart9624]

Thank you for sharing this very understandable conversation. For us laypeople, many of the podcast discussions are simply beyond our education and current understanding. You two did a great job! 🙂

[@deborahcoyle7612]

REALLY looking forward to this one!

[@Evil0tto]

As a Dungeons and Dragons player I demand we build a Dyson icosahedron.

[@rexradar9297]

Except ther would be the argument on how many sides. And while the 20 sided and 12 sided camps debated it the 4 sided group would convince all other groups to build theirs as proof of concept. In the end everyone loses due to the temporary permanency of the ever present star sized 4-sided die.

[@senecaflint6853]

As soon as Prof. Wright mentioned that the mystery of Tabby’s star had been put to rest, I just knew John wouldn’t be able to let it go that easily!

[@rebjorn79]

Hey guys, let's do a Dyson Sphere. It'll be very big and beautiful and amazing

[@poughkeepsieblue]

No, itll be an ugly, sunlight blocking mess. And it will affect the sunlight thats exposed to the crops we rely on to survive. So until we have to rely on artificial light to grow our food, we dont need or want a dyson sphere.

[@tomekkaminski2677]

Donald chill

[@SpaceGoatCoastToCoast]

Uuge!!

[@mrdoodiehead1642]

I'll bring chips!

[@christopherrousseau1173]

Where can we find the material needed to even begin a Dyson sphere? The sun is 99 percent of our solar system.... To form a sphere around a star would take more material than what we have in the solar system...

[@xavierivarnateson532]

This is easily the best science/science fiction channel alongside Issac Aurthur! I've been following your channels for 5 years plus+!

[@steverafferty4114]

More like this please John.

[@wasuh464]

Great way to start a, shift tonight. Thanks to you both!

[@EventHorizonShow]

Enjoy!

[@colonelgraff9198]

“…In the world in which we liiiiiiiiivvvvvvve….”

[@themightypen1530]

I end the video just before that because it creeps me out for some reason.

[@monolalia]

@@themightypen1530 I always hope he goes on for another couple seconds…

[@Margrreet]

Me too!

[@darth_pronator]

I think our simple baby minds assume that advanced civilizations will automatically eventually make a Dyson sphere to harvest the energy of their stars simply because some authors wrote stories about that happening. Isn’t it equally likely that advanced civilizations will find other preferred methods for harvesting energy, or that they would develop technologies that wouldn’t require much energy? We are spending a lot of effort to search the universe for something that advanced civilizations may never need, because we have little baby minds.

[@Zippofanatic77outdoors]

I think a Dyson swarm would be the most probable to build. Less material faster to build

[@Madosatoshist]

It has to start with a swarm. Then a ring, then two, ..., then a platform, ..., until the sphere is complete. It could take ten thousand years to build.

[@betag24cn]

the problem is keeping them in place, our satelites end going away or falling to earth, that part is the first problem, the second one is move the energy gathered there to here, so we dont end radiated and burned to death

[@digitalcommunist6335]

Encasing whole system makes no sense, even if u can conjure enough material. Unless it’s some crazy scifi god lvl entities that needs all that energy for ‘creating’ wormhole tunnels or something like that. Swarms are more likely…..

[@vermasean]

Now I can wait another hour before cutting the grass 🌱! Had to tune in!

[@poughkeepsieblue]

Get yourself some cheap earphones, and you can listen and mow at the same time. Which saves time. And time is the only thing you wont get any more of, so overlap your time when you can, so have more in the future. Youre welcome for the good advice.

[@poughkeepsieblue]

I think a dyson belt, is a useful idea, by someone as elon musk, or jeff besos. But an entire sphere would kill us. A belt wouldnt affect the natural order, and we would still be able to grow what we need to survive, and be a good experiment. But an entire sphere, might kill plant life on earth, and that would be bad if we werent prepared to cultivate better using the energy we could collect. So, we need to collect efficiently, and provide that energy, more efficiently than we collect it, because we should expect to lose some of the collected energy. This is a tightrope, that needs to be walked carefully before we commit to.

[@damitcam]

I once read a scifi book about humanity’s first voyage out if our start system. In the story, once they crossed the point where they had left the solar system, everything went black, no more stars or anything to use to navigate. The scientist of the team soon realized that the entire universe had dyson spheres around every star but were projecting the universe into each star system. The dyson spheres were being used as cosmic scale computers to find a way to reverse entropy and prevent the end of the universe

[@TheGunmanChannel]

I love the idea that those Dyson spheres could simply be similar to our pyramids, offerings to the gods, not made because they need to but because they can and want to haha, cool ideas to ponder at the very least.

[@askani21]

The hypothesis of Extravagantly Frivolous Aliens 😂

[@docwhiskey996]

Alien Michelangelo is out there living his best life

[@Splucked]

Great guest. Great conversation.

[@DiceyJJ]

you see Jason Wright…you know it’s gonna be good 👽👽👾👾🛸🛸

[@AlexBunda-sn5yn]

I can't find any episodes on podcasts since March. Anyway no biggie great show. Thank you

[@tybivins6602]

I am starting to think that stars are not the best energy source. Dyson machines would be everywhere. Maybe we should be looking for odd gravity waves (warp drives) or how to detect vacuum energy.

[@EventHorizonShow]

John looked into it. You’d need the equivalent of something like a million Fusion reactors to match the energy output of the sun.

[@tybivins6602]

That's hard to beat

[@betag24cn]

the cost of making a dyson sphere or anything similar is absurd, in terms of materials and time, few would be ready to do one in a galaxy, it is not easy to do the warp drive or the dyson project both require time and energy, lots of design, development and we are not there yet

[@chrisjbarton]

Tesla had patents that captured the energy from cosmic rays.

[@infn8loopmusic]

Finally some videos about potential ETs that cite the science papers. This is excellent! 😲

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More to come!

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[@EventHorizonShow]

You might enjoy looking at all of our past videos. Almost all of them are interviews with working scientists.

[@douglasdarling7606]

The most interesting part is how those seven candidates seem to be clustered rather close together instead of being spread out add dramatically reduces the odds of a natural cause it doesn't entirely eliminate it but yeah

[@Top_Weeb]

Thanks John! Amazing interview as always!

[@synaxarion]

What do you think about the dimming signatures that have been found at F-type stars (apparently) clustered in the vicinity of Boyajian's Star?

[@EventHorizonShow]

Discussed in this episode and will Be followed up soon.

[@cavetroll666]

cheers John salute from Toronto 🦝

[@savageandthebeasts8388]

Anyone else notice a pattern? Scientists set criteria for unambiguous signal for alien life Scientists detect set criteria Scientists declare unknown natural phenomenon found Scientists set new criteria for unambiguous signal for alien life Repeat

[@bradleypoe6846]

YEP. By this standard of mobile goal-posts, we'd know nothing about the evolution of life on Earth, simply because our old (and occasionally mis-named and outdated) data sets driven by anatomical cladistics were less than perfect. We might could trust the data as far back as the dawn of mammals. And no further--those so-called "dinosaurs" might not even be proper fossil bones. And how dare we call something a "Carboniferous Era" when we weren't actually there and didn't have actual DNA samples? Yes, I'm being a smartass, but not by very much. There ARE a few paleontologists who are that relentlessly skeptical and constantly have to remind us that "we know NOTHING! NOTHING!" about prior species. Really, some day soon somebody's going to show up, declare that they're an extra-terrestrial born and raised on Earth by an isolated/secluded family of them, actually have anatomical proof, evidence and everything . . . and science will still do the whole "NOPE, you're just crazy/perhaps a Swiftie maybe" business. :-P

[@js70371]

I thoroughly enjoy the content about the search for megastructures - it is perhaps our best bet for eventually finding evidence of advanced life.

[@Zaneomc]

Why would megastructures around their sun be our best bet. I always thought that once you reached that kind of technical ability to built them in the first place you are so far ahead that surely other means are more open up and are way more effectiv no?

[@js70371]

@@Zaneomc sure - why not? But derelict relics should still exist out there if that is the case, whether the civilization in question is extinct or still in existence. The chances that they would take the time and effort to dismantle such a structure are likely small.

[@Taffeyboy]

EAA. Excellent as always. Thank you.

[@chromabotia]

Superb conversation! Oh, so interesting.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Thanks for listening

[@floridaman4073]

What if the Dyson swarm is to power a collider for anti-matter production? Build the collider around the star and build a Dyson swarm to power it. Could produce a fair amount of antimatter to power their anti-matter needs.

[@seditt5146]

Why would you need dangerous anti-matter if you had a Dyson swarm though? I suppose to adjust course and come back from a long trip or whatever but for everything else a Dyson swarm is all you would need. Anything else would acquire large amounts of wasted energy over time, even antimatter.

[@floridaman4073]

@@seditt5146 anti-matter produces massive amounts of energy from a very small amount. It’s lightweight and can give a vast quantity of energy for space flight. Not to mention other technologies that we don’t know yet. We don’t know what types of energy requirements a mothership would need to traverse large distances. I would assume a massive amount given the size needed. Basically a space carrier that can warp space to transverse the distances in little time.

[@andymccracken4046]

@@floridaman4073 I think you are right about this, it would be the only way to do journeys to other star systems, and the Dyson swarm is the only likely method to create enough anti-matter. My guess is that a mothership would be made by modifying a small moon, as this would protect the crew with 50 miles of rock and have plenty of interior space to live in, but obviously it will require massive amounts of energy to reach a decent speed.

[@Jesse-cw5pv]

Some of that energy will be lost. The only reason I see to do something like this is maybe for energy storage. It's like building a coal plant to charge batteries to power your home... the batteries will have less energy than what the coal plant harvested because some energy is lost. Unless it's not an option, it's going to be more efficient to use the energy directly from the star. The more you move the energy around the more you'll lose

[@Jesse-cw5pv]

​@floridaman4073 it takes energy to create the antimatter. And in the process some of that energy is lost. The antimatter we make produces way less energy than it takes us to make us. According to thermodynamics you will never get more energy out than you put in, so the best you're going to do is have the energy change forms, but realistically some energy will always be lost

[@DrMackSplackem]

Fantastic, I need to come back to this one. There's quite a few specific details about star systems I didn't know about and I can only visualize so many in one hour.

[@mugin11223344]

Interesting how Tabby's Star keeps popping up even though science has "ruled out" several times that anything is abnormal about that star.

[@poughkeepsieblue]

These are not the extrateresstrial intlligence youre looking for, move along.

[@Ransume]

I Thought they figured out that it is a cloud of Gas or dust around it which blocks the light at certain times in a regular pattern? I very much remember hearing about Tabbys star and being very excited only to (as per usual) have science remind me "never assume the answer your in love with is the correct one"

[@ostsan8598]

It's not that there isn't anything weird about Tabby's star. We don't know what exactly gives it its light curve. It's probably dust, but how far away the dust is, how it's configured, what makes up the dust, those are questions that still haven't been answered.

[@friendlyone2706]

There are oroblems with the dust explanation... and it's near (astronomically speaking) others with similar abnormalities

[@FFNOJG]

​@friendlyone2706 this =/ I really hate it because this is how science works "team discovers X" "Team decided they wanna debunk. so they do a study, and either just poke retarded bs holes in methodology of the first team. not actually ruling out first conclusions, but gives plausible reasons why the first papers methodology wasn't fool proof" media: "X WAS DEBOONKED!" Different team does study with diff methodology. Gets same result as first group. media and academia "X WUZ DEBOONKED ALREADY!" being the first to discover something DOESN'T MEAN SHIT! especially when you can be some petty POS beauracrat pretending to be a scientist, and you can smear someone's work enough to cause even the slightest bit of doubt in it's authenticity. So YOU get the credit, not them, and you can continue to make sure your project continues to get federal funding, and not lost to this new discovery. THIS IS THE REALITY OF SCIENCE/ACADEMIA. THERE IS NO ONE ACTUALLY THERE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS!

[@EpicLib]

At this point of our tech advancements and possibilities, I see no point in Dyson spheres. This is like thinking "In the 20th century we will have all oceans of Earth crisscrossed by wooden bridges so that our horse carriages can travel more effectively".

[@ian_b]

The problem I have with any species choosing to live on a Dyson Swarm is that you're giving up all the virtues of planets, not least comfortable gravity, to live in ultra-low gravity on asteroids. No mountains, seas, lakes, beaches, forests, tundra, etc. Come to that, no gravitationally bound atmosphere. Who would want to do this?

[@robertadsett5273]

Humans. Also you don’t need to give up gravity forest or lakes. The presence of large mountains and seas depends on how big you build individual structures

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

A civilization with a population larger than what a planet can support is going to want to do it.

[@Fungusfilms]

Now I can lay awake all night worrying this channel may turn out to have just been a natural phenomena all the time.

[@Space30MINUTES]

Rất cảm ơn Jason Wright vì những thông tin quý giá này!

[@anthonyinzerillo3882]

Great channel, great science, great life.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Thank you kindly!

[@Kirhean]

The problem with building around bigger stars is that they're not using their fuel efficiently. If you're going to build a swarm, you're inherently not thinking on a short or small scale. It's a huge investment of resources and effort. There is a strong incentive to either lift material off the star to reduce its size and output, or to just start with a small star out of the gate.

[@LordTempist]

Is it possible these are being viewed edge on, perhaps through the thickest plane of the remanents which might be an ort cloud, etc?

[@Greenhead24]

I been subscribed to event horizon since day one and JMG for years before event horizon,i been here forever.

[@Baleur]

We're also still only thinking about this in 1950's technology. We're arguing wether its worth the effort or time investment to build an actual Dyson Shell instead of just a Swarm. Why are we not considering automation and AI in this? No civilization advanced enough to build a megastructure is gonna have little people with pickaxes and plasma torches in EVA suits build it by hand... You'll design an automated swarm (continually replenished and increased by factories on your planets or in orbit), that gathers the resources and assemble the whole structure, bit by bit, milennia by milennia. There would be no "effort" on part of the physical population. The only effort would be waiting for it to be completed. It's just interesting how EVERY aspect of our trying to conduct a conversation about "what would ET do", is always sunken deep into an ocean filled with anthropomorphized assumptions and self-imposed limitations, even when we're pretending that we're NOT being human-centric anymore, our very foundational thougths are still based on our own experience. We still think of labor and construction as "effort".

[@apngeram]

I hope you do a show with Dr. Loeb about this soon!!! Would love to hear his input.

[@buddypage11]

Looking for possible Dyson spheres is fun but has anyone serous about them calculated the amount of mass it would take? Clearly, there is not enough in an entire solar system to be able to find that much metal or anything else. The amount of effort to build one would be best directed to other tech and exotic physics. Any civilization advanced enough to build one is unlikely to want or need one.

[@rowshambow]

Quick question, but if a civilization was so advanced that they could build a dyson sphere or dyson swarm, could they not also build the space facing side of the sphere or swarm so it had lights on it? So to anyone looking at the star from another system it would look like it's a normal star? Similar concept would be the belly of the bristlemouth fish. That way you could build a dyson swarm and stay unnoticed if you also replicated some of the other wavelengths of light and natural radio emissions from the star. Which would mean that the galaxy could be filled with dyson swarms and spheres and we wouldn't know

[@johnhickey6114]

Jason Wright is rockstar

[@Elviscapataccio]

Bump for support!! Particularly terrific guest today I thought!! 😊

[@SeattleShelby]

Isaac Arthur explored Dyson Spheres and the likely places we might find them years ago on his channel. Worth taking a look at.

[@home_Grown_studio]

I find this highly unlikely just because of the temperatures even Starlite would break down in time. Dyson Spheres would have to be coated with these polymers and in some way applied to these structures.

[@AlaskanBallistics]

Another great interview brother!

[@pazitor]

Perfect timing, thanks.

[@EventHorizonShow]

Enjoy!

[@wakjob961]

What could we possibly use to build one? There isn't enough material in the entire solar system to build just one ring!

[@leefletcher7527]

One small suggestion here. I would suggest that it might be possible for Dyson swarm levels of industrial activity might generate large clouds of dust as industrial waste, similar the the accumulation of material in our own near orbital space. That would make it more difficult tell a techno-signature from a natural phenomenon.

[@CamStubbs]

It’s amazing that the search for Dyson spheres found something featuring Jason 😂🎉

[@TrailRunnerLife]

Yessss!

[@oldgreybeard5301]

Well, that's an hour of my work night where nothing gets done. Your fault, John. 😁

[@godisinfinity]

One problem with all the searching of “advanced “ civilisation is the point of view we have on it . Looking for radio, for lasers for Dyson spheres and all the things that we can imagine from our tech level perspective. So we are expecting for an advanced civilisation to still use technology that we are using now ???? I can not imagine how this could work . Also speaking about civilisation is even uncertain, we simply don’t know what direction life would evolve into and where does it going to take the energy from and if energy at all … uncertainty over uncertainty. The only thing I can imagine we would find ( with some luck one day) is some remaining left overs from their/ its evolutionary path that are somewhere on our tech level now …

[@marcelmackerl5968]

How are the pyramids a tomb without ever having a Sarcothagus

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

They have them. All of the famous pyramids at Giza have sarcophagi, and tons of the other lesser famous ones have them. What happened is that some internet content creators thought they could get tons of views lying that they didn't have them on youtube and Tiktok and then parroting and misrepresenting Graham Hancock's ideas. It was all trust me bro, the scientists are lying to us silliness.

[@150877z]

Sarcothagus sounds interesting maybe they were literally teleported with the sarcophagus.

[@ESF19791111]

INTERESTING :) THANK YOU FOR SHARING :) THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL :)

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Hmm, 'cause I'm NOT young!? I feel a sudden urge to read: Pandora's Star(2004) by Peter F H again. Funny...it's been about 20 years.

[@nicholaskelly1958]

Step forward Dudley Bose! When ever I think of Dyson Spheres Dyson Alpha and Dyson Beta leap into my head! Let's hope that it isn't Morning Light Mountain out there!

[@memecat84]

I have fallen into event horizon ☺️☺️😊😚 I love her voice

[@JudySnyder-dv5ld]

Great visuals.

[@Rob-ro7nc]

The question 'Why' is the difference between understanding and ignorance. This suggests that asking "why" leads to a deeper understanding of a subject, whereas not questioning leaves one in the dark. The question 'Why' is the difference between a scientist and a technician. This highlights that scientists often seek to understand the underlying reasons and principles behind phenomena, while technicians may focus more on applying established methods. The question 'Why' is the difference between a leader and a manager. This implies that leaders inspire and motivate by understanding and explaining the purpose behind actions, whereas managers might focus more on execution and processes. The question 'Why' is the difference between curiosity and compliance. This indicates that asking "why" is a sign of curiosity and a desire to understand, whereas compliance may involve following instructions without question. The question 'Why' is the difference between spiritual awakening and spiritual slumber. This suggests that asking "why" leads to deeper spiritual insights and awakening, whereas not questioning keeps one in a state of unawareness. The question 'Why' is the difference between faith and blind belief. This implies that asking "why" strengthens faith through understanding, whereas blind belief is accepting without questioning. The question 'Why' is the difference between enlightenment and ignorance. This highlights that seeking the reasons behind existence and experiences can lead to enlightenment, whereas ignorance persists without such questioning. The question 'Why' is the difference between purpose and routine. This indicates that understanding the purpose behind actions and life leads to a more meaningful existence, as opposed to simply going through the motions. ...so would you ask 'why' or not?... Perhaps the wisest question is: 'What helps me?'

[@bradleypoe6846]

A clue here is that a lot of what you discuss is on a continuum or sliding scale. It's not a bipolar, exclusive OR, Black XOR White scenario (NO GREY or color ever). And the reason for a lot of that boils down to culture. And I'm using the word "culture" in the narrow sense of it: this is what the parents of a species teaches to their young to transmit knowledge to the next generation. The problem with that, is that knowledge can change on accelerating curves that hit far faster than the passing of generations in a slow-reproducing species like _Homo Sapiens._ Useful knowledge can become obsolete, and then a historical error, far faster than parents can transmit it to future generations. But society is often made of old-to-obsolete knowledge, because this exists on a spectrum or sliding scale. The same holds true when it comes to decision-making by societies: It's not just "practical reasons" versus "arbitrary reasons", some decisions of a cultural sort really do fall into the "more rational" versus "less rational" camp. Like The Great Wall of China, which started out as a way to keep invading Mongol Hordes out. But then why was it finished and made into the huge wall it is now? Culture, and the less rational reason of "we did this much, let's get it done." Shorter version: We as a species that lives in a society, have culture. This by itself makes black-and-white thinking errors besides the point. It's more useful to think on a sliding scale of, for example, "more practical" or "less practical."

[@deeespinal9666]

That just means theres a new unknown natural phenomenon or type of star, without the lunacy

[@betag24cn]

it is not lunacy to have a civilization that had time to develop new technologies and no one to kill them over thousands of years to make a dyson sphere that is not made in a week or two if you think that such idea is lunacy, i dont want to know what you think about a tokamak or other projects trying to make fussion in smaller scale without the sphere, or the sun involved

[@federicoclavijo8798]

Moonfall film.

[@betag24cn]

@@federicoclavijo8798 moonfall had some weird ideas, but there is no star inside the moon, a star would emit radiation and we could detect it with or without dyson sphere

[@TheKevphil]

I think it's most likely a case of mistaken identity; these "Dyson Spheres" are just some natural phenomenon we don't yet understand and *_not_* multiple examples of super-advanced alien civilizations populating every corner of the galaxy.

[@BitcoinMeister]

I like the Przybylski's star theory about the detection being from an unknown Island of stability element decay. It that can be proven it would be huge. Almost as big as aliens doing it :)

[@stricknine6130]

Fascinating interview! Thanks for the episode! 😁

[@mr.rubicon1193]

Starting now. Good night everyone falling asleep to this.

[@glyngreen538]

Maybe the Red Dwarf spacecraft are mining in those systems and generating the dust? I remember watching that Red Dwarf documentary series on TV years ago about that.

[@lowtech_1]

The Cat on Red Dawarf came from Tabby Star.

[@Rlover]

Jason is such a good dude.

[@justinjackson2588]

Man, the universe is neat. I am glad to be alive today to see all of this new data coming in from dozens of telescopes.

[@Sundaydish1]

Have you seen water eddy's? Miniature whirlpools that float off on their own. Could something similar happen in space? Could that not explain what you are seeing in front of Tabby's star?

[@dessertstorm7476]

a few years back we were asking about the fermi paraox and why we don't see technosignatures. Now we see many potential candidatesSo if the problem is just we haven't looked hard enough, is the Fermi paradox even a paradox?

[@bradleypoe6846]

Honestly? We've hardly HAD radio technology for any relevant length of time, as far as the universe is concerned. And we've most certainly HARDLY taken this task seriously for any relevant length of time, as far as the universe is concerned. We've not really looked for anything for any length of time compared to the lifespan of mere nations, never mind compared to the lifespans of tectonic plates, planets or stars. So . . . okay, we're not up to our armpits in interstellar neighbors, so we can't completely say "There is no Fermi Paradox." The math and the great silence are what they are, and they don't agree. But . . . The fact that we keep on finding things that suggest evidence of life and technology so often? That's a prodigal thing, whether it's on our part (being naive, maybe?) or whether it's on the learning curve of figuring out how technological society in general proceeds. I mean, so SO many of our astronomers/SETI people come from such a defeatist, ball-busting subculture of "it's NEVER EVER aliens DAMMIT" that well . . . again, people are still finding things that suggest evidence, so soon and against such resistance that it just seems like we're prodigies at this sort of thing. But yeah, that can mean we're geniuses, or that we're merely experts at wasting our time, go figure.

[@nekomakhea9440]

The other _other_ reason to build a Dyson Swarm besides real estate & energy is star lifting, mining the star by siphoning up stellar plasma and siphoning useful elements out of it. A star is typically going to have ~90% of the star system's mass, which include a vast majority of the useful metallic elements. You can even use the solar power to mine the minerals, then use the minerals to build your habitat, all from the sun in parallel with a self-bootstrapping Dyson Swarm. A colder star might be preferable for this use case, as it reduces the stress on the mining platforms that have to get close enough to suck up the plasma. Compared to the hassles of terraforming planets, colonizing the stars themselves with Dyson Swarms might be preferable.

[@poughkeepsieblue]

We still have a yellow star. That provides all the energy we need. In the future, when sunlight becomes a problem for growing the essential plants we need to survive here, this information will become very usefull.

[@Hyzer_Sozay]

Imagine if we could harness ours as it is

[@poughkeepsieblue]

@@Hyzer_Sozay only when we are ready to understanding "harvesting" as an advantage over a loss. And when we can use it as a positive over a negative. But we have to be absolutly sure, it will be a benifit, to save humanity. Just sayin.

[@poughkeepsieblue]

@@Hyzer_Sozay i imagine it as a horror story. Until it becomes essential to save our planet. Until then, its sci fi, and should remain speculation until we NEED it.

[@aqdrobert]

Captain Montgomery Scott: LADS! GET ME OUTTA THIS SPHERE!

[@PaulMartIn-dm5oi]

I have one massive issue with the Dyson sphere theory. If we wanted to erect a Dyson sphere around our very own Sol, which, by the way provides 99.8 of our solar systems mass, where do the materials come from to produce such a massive structure? Do the contructors of these sphere's trawl around neighbouring solar sytems stealing planets and moons to erect such a thing?

[@cheeseman417]

I guess Event Horizon really is playing for (Keeps)... Ohh yeah!😂😂😂

[@avaruusmuukalainen]

This is like... Well, I would have expected this. Sooner or later. Maybe in 3024 or something.

[@DJS100]

We need an update on this super interesting topic! 🙃🙂🙃👍

[@EventHorizonShow]

On it!

[@chrisdahler5557]

No mummies we ever documented in any Egyptian Pyramid.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

The internet said that, but it's not true. The Saqqara pyramids had tons of human remains. The pyramid of Teti's wife was excavated in 2021 and had like 40 wooden sarcophagi in it.

[@DavidPotter-ee6tf]

One potential use for a Dyson Sphere might be to open up a wormhole. If exotic matter does not exist, then it might very well take the entire energy of a star to open up a wormhole.

[@igorgotmail]

I am convinced that if a civilization has the knowledge and the knowhow to build a dyson sphere, that nuclear fusion has no secrets to them anymore. So that they can build their own infinite power sources on their planet or on a satellite powerplant circling their planet without the need of building an extreme megalomaniac project like a dyson sphere around a star.

[@PhilipRittscher]

A "sphere" that is built around a star is gravitationaly unstable.

[@newforestpixie5297]

my elder brother born in 1958 literally believed that Dyson vacumn cleaners were so brilliant that they never needed emptying. I explained that indeed their anti-matter capabilities were why they cost a load of money.

[@CelicaSound]

Ive started to share this channel, anyone wanna help support. He does amazing work. Deserves at least a million...

[@beardmonster8051]

It would be so weird to find just a few Dyson swarms out there, rather than zero or hundreds of billions just in our galaxy. Finding just a few would demand some far-fetched explanations, like "all civilizations invariably die just after starting their first Dyson swarm" or "no civilization ever engage in interstellar flight" or "no star-faring civilization existed a few thousands/tens of thousands of years ago, but we happened to develop in the same cosmic eyeblink as the first one".

[@lapanen007]

"Pyramids for entirely cultural or religious reasons" this is not an issue - I think. The God King was without any doubt the most important thing in their lives. Also, the pharao didn't actually ask them to build it. But if this were the case for a dyson sphere, I'd be a bit afraid of that culture which never got rid of that kind of religious kult mentality

[@Mountain8ear]

I don't know why it got stuck in my head, but I thought of something that I'm not sure is original. Gravity Mining, and Gravity Seeding. Where you put a dense object like a stainless steel ball at the correct orbital speeds, to sit still relative to the protoplanetary disc while orbiting a star. While it sits, it gathers up the protoplanetary disc material through accretion. You can turn around and scoop those spheres of metal up, and you've got an easy, low effort mining technique. It just takes time. As for Gravity Seeding, you could use the same objects to seed the beginning of an asteroid, a moon, or a planet. Once again, it just takes some time. Let me know if I've just reinvented the wheel.

[@davidbailey453]

Awesome radio. Telescope capability

[@davidpetry]

Dyson Spheres, the sun screen of the cosmos